“Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side, kid.”

It got its ass kicked by another "hokey" religion

What's your name, son?

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>"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force"

When the fuck did we ever see a force user do anything that even remotely resembles destroying a fucking planet?

It worked in the OT because Jedi were depicted as a group that was 99% rumors. Kind of like faith healers or snake handlers. If you were part of the 0.000000000000000000000000001% of the galaxy that actually got to see a Jedi using the Force, nobody would have believed you when you told them what you saw.

PT ruined this when it had the Jedi as celebrities.

He was talking collectively, the entirety of the Force is stronger. Also Luke did use the Force to blow up the Death Star

The prequel trilogy is invaluable to film. They show just how brutal telling a prequel is. Not only do you have to tell a good story in its own right, but there were countless lines from the OT that had to be taken into account for consistency.

there is stuff in the EU, but in the movies? nah nothing even close.

>if you strike me down, i shall become more powerful than you can ever imagine!"

>sits around as a ghost for the reminder of the franchise.

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>"The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of farts"
>"Sir?"
>"Imagine if all farts that have ever existed and will ever come to be went off all at once"
>"..."
>"Braaaaap"

According to the TLJ he was (at least potentially) able to summon lightning, that's pretty powerful

Don't have one, never knew my dad.

>Very well, I'll record you as Han Nigger

yep, jedi were much more interesting as mystical sci-fi wizards instead of running around at the head of the battle in "jedi robes".

My headcanon is that the Empire used everything at their disposal to suppress knowledge of the force, and make people think the Jedi had never been anything but a hokey religion. How many people ever actually saw a Jedi using force powers? The media has a lot of power to influence what people believe.

Maybe that's why Palpatine never leaves space?

Yoda stroke down a tree. That was pretty impressive.

>dude they have magic wizards monks in Coruscant and they can move things with the mind!
>yeah sure and I'm a fairy

Suspension of disbelief is necessary. Somewhere after the prequels and the OT people just sort of forgot about the force. The Jedi were too isolated and got totally wiped out so maybe people assumed they were just full of shit.

In the EU with Naga shadow and old ass sith that made a entire illusion army and a black hole

wasnt executive order 66 carried out with only good blasters?

Han got it all wrong, he should have focused on using his belt on that little shit Kylo

In fairness, weren't there only about 10,000 Jedi around the time of the prequel era? The vast, vast majority of the galaxy probably didn't even know what a Jedi was, let alone see one, let alone witness their powers with their own eyes

the dumbass married a woman that outranks him.
never go full cuck

they skipped youtube and went straight to space travel

They had the element of surprise as well. The only Jedi who actually saw it coming was Yoda, and that was because he was strong enough to sense everyone else dying

Yeah, even Anakin talks about a jedi with his laser sword. It's easier to imagine jedi as space police with beam batons, the force/magic stuff just being a silly embellishment.

As I recall, using lighting was a dark side art.
Was Yoda a sith all along?

so the hokey religion only saved one guy who was already 6 gorillion years old

You'd be surprised how fast public opinion can turn around. Only took a couple of decade for Ireland to stop being ardently catholic and traditionalist. How long did it take "freedom fighters" to become "terrorists"?

It's not that far fetched to believe that the Empire, vast and powerful as it is, deleted every video, book or information about the Jedi.

Yeah, Yoda! Remember that time you cut two people's heads off? There is only one side to the Force and it's the dark side.

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Jedis should have been much rarer. Like maybe one in every 10 billion. They should have been near immortal (long lived) techno wizards shrouded in mystery that never revealed themselves except when another jedi came to kill them or learn from them. They should have been fairy tales which were little more than a few references in ancient stone tablets and corrupted data disks held by mad men. No one living should have seen any powers at all, or know what the word jedi means.

The whole plot should have centered on how when a jedi is born the entire moral balance of the universe is shifted, and how all jedi must mask their presense from others constantly, as their souls burn so brightly it is practically infinite detection range for other jedi. All jedi always fall to the light or dark side, so the force is almost never balanced except when there is an even amount of jedis and half are evil. Basically all human eras of peace and war, and with aliens too, all life, is connected to the balance, so you can lay every bad and good thing at the feet of jedis. And there should have been a strong downside to the good side too, like pure utalitarianism perhaps.

N-no, you see...the force is whatever the fuck i say it is. NERD!

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>people just sort of forgot about the force
That doesn't happen in a couple of decades. You don't forget the shit you actually saw, you never several generations to pass to rewrite history.

yeah it's not like people think religions are hokey now or anything

Meanwhile some guy supposedly performed a miracle or something and people still believe in it 2000 years later.

Pretty sure we don't have crusades with bishops using jesus powers. If we did I'd believe in jesus for sure

Prequels aren't canon.

It's not like it was a massive religion day one, that shit takes time. The span from Order 66 to Episode 4 is just about 20 years.

That's so kafkaesque.

Who even witnessed the Clone Wars though? It was fought predominately with clones and droids. We're never made aware of any major press or news networks in the SW universe.

Heres a pity reply from me. Its really obvious you are trying really hard to contribute but its just SO PATHETIC. Heres to a better luck next time kiddo

yea it's pretty retarded how there were jedi everywhere for 5000 years but everyone forgot about it and don't believe it for the last 20

tbf Rome and Judea wouldve likely scrubbed any mention of Jesus from their history if something like that actually did happen

Like said

>Who even witnessed the Clone Wars though?
I presume that news exist in star wars universe. So when a fucking WAR happens people get to see pictures and look at war footage.

I don't know. They were pretty bad at damnatia memoriae since Marc Anthony is still one of the most famous romans who ever lived.

Before youtube you had newspapers with photos. I mean come on user, it's a huge stretch to pretend that everyone just forgot Clone Wars ever happened in a couple of decades. It was a pretty important conflict that changed people's lives drastically.

>I presume that news exist in star wars universe

You presume too much. Why would a moisture farmer need to care about anything except where to get his next moisture from?

>I presume that news exist in star wars universe.
why? there's nothing to show anything other than gossip exists

did they even have cameras?
the only sort of footage capability i noticed was Leia recording the hologram thing in R2D2

The best way to fit the OT’s Jedi are myth with the canon would be to show the jedi as a fairly small but influential force.

In the Republic maybe they served to get rid of Sith infiltration or menaces. Or even just having them around as spiritual advisers that occasionally fought would count as defending the Republic.

Make them a force of like 10 people, that way they could still be legends to most people but a genuine asset in the eyes of people like Leia. Who maybe knows they’re real because her father knew some of them personally.

Another thing to help keep them in the realm of legend would their naturally reclusive nature. Maybe they would take on students with great reluctance.

The PT’s depiction just strains believability in what the OT sets up.

Does it though? When do we see a TV?

It should be noted that there was usually just one lone Jedi for every clone deployment unless Padawans were involved or it was a large operation. Jedi were generals, not front line troops.

The force is insignificant compared to the power of sick burns

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he also was able to tank the lightning somehow, I don't think they've shown anyone else create some weird force bubbles with their hands and tank it
also how did he live to the age of 900 or whatever and was cool and dandy but became decrepit in the last 20

>lmao I don't care who's in charge of the country I live in
>gets killed by imperial soldiers for not picking up a can
user when your country is conquered by a foreign empire how the fuck can you not be aware of it. Even if you're moist for a living you still have to talk to the taxman once in a while

starwars.fandom.com/wiki/HoloNet

They had videos in nu-wars if that's canon enough

Tatooine was basically lawless territory. Gangsters and slavers galore before the Empire. Gangsters and slavers galore after the Empire. Representatives of the Republic or the Empire only seemed to visit that rock when they needed something from it.

I mean you see stormtroopers harassing the locals in Rogue One and they seem pretty unimpressed.

News does exist in the form of HoloNet and there were several in-universe articles written about the setting up to the release of Episode 2
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In the EU there are such things as viewscreens which take the place of TV

I'm not of the belief that no one remembers the jedi user. That other comment was being ironic as well.

How the fuck are there no records of them existing.

Well, people clearly remember the Jedi, they just regard their beliefs as nonsense superstition.

in high tech societies news travels fast and in abundance so 20 years is enough time to forget shit.

jeffrey epstein hasnt even been a month and its already being memory holed

What's known is that, for all their mystical power, their attempted political coup against the Emperor failed and they were then wiped out almost to the man. It's unsurprising Mott would be dismissive, discounting all the other propaganda being fed.

Jesus, Vader.

>Catholic Church exists, therefore everyone is Catholic