Could have stopped 9/11, the war in the middle east, many civil wars etc

>No.
Why not?
>the filmography suggests it wasn't via the same mechanism.
Well there, you knew the answer all along, so why make this dumb capeshit thread?

So if it wasn't via that mechanism, then how did he return? Are you saying he discovered a new form of inter-dimensional travel and used it? The film seems to be implying he stayed in "OUR" universe.

The fact he didnt stop 9/11 suggests it was a different timeline, also all the time travel shit in the movie does too, so you suck.

Or it suggests Cap had to bear the pain of watching all of it happen in exchange for being with Peggy.

How does it imply that?

How do you know he didn't stop countless other shit that we don't know because they didn't happen because he stopped them?

The fact is, we don't. But how did he sit by and just watch these events unfold?

He was balls deep in peggy no time for middle east, ayyy lmaos or OBL

Btw how this fucking time travel worked ? it seems really retarded and look like they fucked all the other timelines but theirs

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Bringing back everyone was such a fucking shit move I can't even comprehend how someone gave the okay.

Once he goes back, there are now two Caps, the Original Cap and Endgame Cap. Original Cap lives his life exactly as we see in all of the movies, nothing different.

Endgame Cap marries Peggy, and probably did everything he could to stay out of the public eye. He lived a perfectly normal unspectacular life, not affecting history in anyway.

But Peggy knowing Steve is alive and marrying him would change things, wouldn't it ? Could he really hide from Shield all those years WITH Peggy who he was known to be romantically entangled with? Did Steve never visit his Mom? He wasn't motivated to go find Bucky? He just...sat there in the dark away from everything? Wouldn't that hugely change the timeline since it would involve Peggy which would involve Shield which would involve Fury which involves the Avengers which involves Thanos which involves Steve even going back in the first place? The fuck?

I'd like to think he had to go through a ton of Marty mcfly shit to get there and he is not really old he just has progeria from fucking a dwarf

It would be difficult, but there's some possible explanations. One would be that he tells Peggy enough to impress on her that he can't be involved in anything that happens. He encourages her to continue doing all of her work with SHIELD as she should have. It's not like her marriage had any direct impact on any of those things.

>It's not like her marriage had any direct impact on any of those things

It must have dude. Even something like her mood and disposition that day would impact things. Knowing Steve's secret would impact things.

It might, it might not. Based on the how the movie concludes, we have to assume that none of Endgame Cap's actions affected the timeline in any meaningful way.

Might not isn't a possibility dude. Your day to day life is meaningfully different in small ways when you have a different husband. Let alone a time traveling one who holds the knowledge of future events who you're hiding. It's bizzare to posit it wouldn't affect her user. I guess it's just a dumb Marvel flick though.

>Wouldn't that hugely change the timeline
the way I see it, it shouldn't affect the timeline because during all the MCU events there has always been a second, older Steve Rogers hanging around keeping a low profile, so things have always been the way we've seen them

You're going at time travel the way every other time travel movie ever did. They explained that Avengers time travel is different and as soon as you go back in time you are by necessity always in another timeline, not your own, so Steve married OtherUniverse Peggy and caused all the impacts he wanted on her universe but none of it would affect the universe he came from.

You're taking ideas like the butterfly effect far too seriously. Obviously because time travel does not exist there's no way to know for sure how events would change. What we can go by is what the movie shows us, and what the movie shows us is that Endgame Cap's actions did not affect the timeline.

You can either accept what the movie shows us happened or you can continue being mad that the movie didn't handle time travel the way you think it should.

Okay, then my follow up is, how did get back to the same exact place at that time years later and why was it shot in a way that indicates a kind of phase in?

I understand this answer.

You're not taking it seriously enough. Whether you arrive to a meeting 5 minutes late can change the course of your life. Whether you're distracted driving that morning can lead to an accident. When you can't bring your husband to any public events ever or have to keep secret your marriage, your interactions with men and how they treat you change. I could go on and on.

He loved a woman more and chose to be with her instead. But yeah, it's pretty selfish when you put it that way.

I agree that they CAN, but that doesn't mean that they WILL. The movie tells us that it didn't.

I'm asserting that's a major flaw / there's another explanation.

I thought Bernie and Elizabeth Warren passed him? At peast in one poll they did.

9/11 is canon to Marvel?

>Okay, then my follow up is, how did get back to the same exact place at that time years later and why was it shot in a way that indicates a kind of phase in?
He knew the date of the funeral, and he snuck up on the bench when they were distracted by the time travel. He was watching the whole time.

This is the proof that not even the writers understood their brand of time travel. According to in-movie explanations, different timelines are created each time there is a time travel, thus the original timeline doesn't get affected by actions that take place in different timelines. So it doesn't make any sense that Cap was again in the original timeline after time traveling.

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Unless that's what was always going to happen, and so his going back in time was part of the original timeline.

>Okay, then my follow up is, how did get back to the same exact place at that time years later and why was it shot in a way that indicates a kind of phase in?
Because the time travel 'machines' they were building in Endgame are set up that way (same thing happened when they went back to get the stones and then came back to their own time) - they go to the alternate dimension then get pulled back when they use a piece of tech on their end to pull themselves back. He just waited longer to pull himself back than they were expecting because he did not come back as soon as they expected

I think this may be the actual answer. The only flaw is that he should have appeared on the platform. Why did he "phase in" on to the bench?

That I don't know--one could try to wave it away by saying maybe if someone stays longer periods of time in the alternate timeline there may be some displacement and they can come back at slightly different locations. They wanted to be 'dramatic' is the directorial reason.

The explanation I gave is pretty much the only one that makes sense that I can think of given their previous explanation of Avengers time travel. There's no way he went back in their same timeline, lived for however many years and then on the day he knew they were going to send him, went to the location he knew they would be at and sat on the bench without ever doing a reverse jump. That would be totally out of step with how they explained Avengers time travel to work unless the writers just screwed up or didnt care about consistency

He had no option of preventing 9/11 in a timeline where it happened. If he prevented it then the twin towers would be in New York during Avengers. How do you not understand basic cause and effect? Trying to stop something that you know is going to happen no matter what is suicide.

>There's no way he went back in their same timeline
Unless it was always going to happen in that timeline.

Did 9/11 even happen in the MCU? Obviously the War on Terror exists, because a lot of the first Iron Man was about it, but actual 9/11?

Why wouldn't it have?

I dunno. Obviously the MCU is different from our world in a lot of significant ways. And movies like Captain America and Captain Marvel.show that it diverged from our history way before Iron Man appeared. So I feel like we shouldn't take it for granted that 9/11 happened.

Did they ever show what Peggy's husband looked like? What if her husband was Steve all long?

There are restrictions to movement through time. First, you must leave your body behind to do it. Then, there must be a version of you waiting at the destination. Upon arrival, you can only move forward as per the laws of time. And you cannot rewrite the events that are destined to happen.

Only single outlier poll. The rest of contenders never had a ceiling as high as how low he has his floor.
Dude nevertheless starts looking worse for wear everyday.