Holy fucking based

holy fucking based

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sounds like he's as big of a pathetic manchild as whedon

can someone fill me in? i dont understand anything

when will we get the snyder cut? Aquachad has already seen it

will superhero movies ever stop being the default blockbuster film

there's just so fucking many of them and they are almost all awful. the only one i've liked in the past decade or so was Into the Spiderverse. i mean, they still beat the new trend of live action Disney remakes by a fucking mile but can't we just start writing and producing original screenplays every now and again.

Why do people still give Snyder movie projects? The dude just cannot seem to tell a story in a timely fashion. He needs 4 hour cuts of his movies in order for them to make any sort of sense. He really should switch to TV or something like a Netflix, Amazon streaming model.

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>Wagner continued, “There were many other things on that movie that made it so good apart from the fact that I was working with Zack and the whole gang. I met my wife on that job. There [were] a lot of other things. It was just a great shoot, and so it was a shame to see the film the way it turned out to be.

before working with snyder = incel
after working with snyder = chad

Time to release the Snydercut. People will come out and apologize to Zack in droves.

What's Joss up to these days

Release the Snydercunt

>pretentious fartsy pantsy
>not a single fun movie
Why
I wanna watch the first yugioh movie or something

Did Justice League grounded both Zach and Josh's careers? They've both been quiet recently.

Imagine putting your heart and soul into making something aesthetically fantastic and an homage to your favourite renaissance artists, only for that ginger predator to shit all over it and cry that he tried his best

Many such cases

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stfu hipster

based

Snyder shoots movie. WB does a 180 on everything because people just want their movies to be like marvels. WB effectively fires Snyder after everything is filmed and brings Whedon on board to direct new scenes and trim the movie to two hours at max while reshooting most of that run time. End result is marvel fans still don’t like the movie, and fans of the previous movies don’t like it because it has obviously been hacked apart. Info comes to light about Snyder’s cut of the movie having been fully filmed and edited, minus cgi and soundtrack. Fans obviously want to see his cut of the movie. WB and Snyder remain mostly silent but occasionally Snyder shows stills from the movie that show a very different version then what was released.

As he was watching the film, Joss Whedon kept rapidly sliding the sharp edge of a piece of printer paper along the head of Fabian Wagner's circumcised penis

i thought snyder left because of the suicide in his family?

RELEASE THE SNYDER XUT.

You won't give us what we've earned! You wouldn't dirty your hands, but you'll damn us to a Whedonized Hell for eternity! Snyder was right! You're a pack of fools, every last one of you!

You... you believe his cut is unreachable... I will find it. I will reclaim what you have taken from us! I will find it. I will find it, Whedon.

I WILL FIND IT!

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Pure PR spin. Yes, Snyder's daughter killed herself, but Snyder wanted to finish his film. Warner Bros. basically fired him and used the daughter's suicide to create the "Snyder left on his own to be with his family" bullshit.

There is a cut Jason momoa pretty much confirmed it sadly probably never going to see it

The film was already finished filming at that point though, there were just a couple reshoots left to do which he handed off to Whedon to be with his family. As soon as he was gone WB decided to make the reshoots much more extensive and reshot half the movie.

I cried too.

Because of what a terrible movie it was.

Boom.

>crying instead of mashing one's teeth and sneering at the images you know would've been glorious if not for exec's and Whedon's influence
>not shaking one's fist at such injustice and criminal negligence of film as an art form
Just sitting through Justice League and realizing what a horror show it is versus what a joy it could've been just left me angered- practically in a quiet rage as I sat through the film.

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wtf is this true
if it already exists why don't Warner just release it?
would be quick cash with zero investment

>WB killed Snyder's daughter to redo Justice League

Didn't know the Clintons were share holders lmao

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can someone name a movie that actually had its origin version restored? i know there's at least a handful, but i can't think of any

Whedon, with his own tin ear, directorial incompetence, and lack of vision and integrity, was handed beautiful footage shot by a vastly superior director and by his own hand, consciously chose to crop it, butcher it, re-color it, and render it into a claustrophobic eyesore with the most generic plot imaginable, thereby irrefutably proving that he never should have risen any higher than network tv shows, and even there, his zenith is decades behind him.

Release. The motherfucking. Snyder cut.

Warner killed Snyder daughter to make a plausible alibi for hiring Whedon

stfu goof

Oblivion I hope. He's the asshole who makes me understand how horrible and stupid and full of biased arrogance American liberals are. And I am a turboleftie.

Keep hope alive, brother.

Stick to fast food garbage, pleb. You'd probably cut War and Peace down to 2 hours.

the thing is, whedon's JL isn't terrible: just average for a hollywood flick, and even above average for the capeshit metagenre

>All that work just to insert some shitty jokes
FUCKING WHY

there's no way that snyder's version started with a cell phone video, right

i love that image

This happened to BVS because of shitty screenplay management. Basically half the movie was rewritten and it was far more complex so he had to release the ultimate cut for it to make sense. If you give Snyder a good, streamlined script he can make a good movie.

Fucking based. Tell me he married the Hammerzon. That would make my life complete.

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Fuck yeah, man.

I think you're me.

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Why are Snyder fanboys so pathetic?

I wouldn't go so far as to call it above average, but it is bog-standard as far as plot and characterization goes. It absolutely is the DC equivalent of an MCU movie - light, insincere, self-aware, and kind of ugly. The only MCU films made on Disney's watch that are even occasionally visually striking are Gunn's and Waititi's films, but I hate those for their irreverent tone and manipulative schmaltz.

goddammit, batfleck was already enjoying his usual shitty alcoholic hooker filled sabbatical with all the roids finally wearing off and then he had to come back to shoot these shitty scenes.

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Bladerunner.

Correct.

JUSTICE FOR SNYDER

Not true. Snyder wanted to continue working on it, but was forced out by WB. They used his daughter's suicide as an excuse after the fact. He never "handed it off" to Whedon.

Yeah, we can't all be as passionless, disaffected, and "cool" as you. Such is life.

go back to Twitch and also Reddit you Amazon whore

It probably runs a bitcoin miner or installs a keylogger when you access it

Our warfare will be accomplished. He didn't give us hollow approximations of the comics characters and their world. He was giving us the genuine article.

The reason Snyder is able to get movies is because he is one of the few recognizable unique technical auteurs. The industry always gives money to directors who excel at having a style of their movies that no one else can replicate. It's why Michael Bay is given so many projects. No one can do what Bay does so well. Same with Snyder. Even Shyamalan can get work just for being unique and recognizable to his peers. When you make a style that is poorly copied / emulated by other forgettable hack filmmakers, you've cemented your career no matter what.

>sadly probably never going to see it
I believed this too not long ago, but more and more big names keep coming out in support of it. I think there's a bigger chance of it being released now than ever before.

This. Disney's been trying and failing to cop his style ever since BvS. Failing upwards, mind you, but still failing. Waititi tried it, and that got a laugh out of me, because he gets the visual dynamic, but he doesn't understand the importance of lighting or how to make people look like they're not standing in front of a green screen.

It's the difference between this.

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They are pathetic but you can't fault them on this. The Snyder version of the movie would have been 100% better than the final product even if the story was still shit it was glitterized shit for the dcucks.

And this. You'd never get shit this lazy in a Snyder film.

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that looks like shit

The only 100% chance for Snyders version of JL was that it was going to somehow be even worse than Whedon's. Snyder is simply incapable of making anything good.

that also looks like shit

You're fucking blind.

Whedon is responsible for Superman’s super weird CGI face. How in the living fuck did they let that make the final cut!!

Those people are nearly good enough to do anything. The people that support this are his crew and some comic book writers and Kevin Smith and Snyder fans. Like he would need like big respected auteur filmmakers to defend him. Like if he was Christopher Nolan in terms of respect, imagine the actual impact.

Cameron's a fan of his.

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>blind

The perspective of everything is completely wrong
The background looks completely fake
Everything other than the little hill of dirt looks like it came out of video game circa 2006
Also why not just rent some tracktors and go out to a desert and dig an omega rather than spend thousands on CGI?

Well then Cameron needs to say something in support of him releasing Snyder cut if he hopes to get some results. If he says nothing then it can't happen.

>The perspective of everything is completely wrong

What the fuck are you even talking about?

Fuck your trips

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>WB killed Snyder's daughter to redo Justice League

Didn't know the Clintons were share holders lmao

I hate to be a conspiracy nut but the College where she committed suicide do have a lot of rich liberal alumni. Some of them are connected to President Obama. But no details have been released about her death. But the college is known to have super rude students. I read that when the kids don't like another student they just ignore them. This is called Sarah Lawrencing. So maybe she committed suicide because she got Sarah Lawrenced.

Super heroes appear to be the sweet spot
>appeal to adults and children
>even appeal to women to a certain degree
>old and established enough that people will be drawn in by nostalgia alone
>simple morals
>widely marketable images and logos
>easy to understand modern day settings for the most part that don't throw people off by being too nerdy
>can combine the gritty with the fantastical
>the nature of the shared universe means you can get people to watch multiple movies a year, including ones they don't really want to watch, because they don't want to miss important plot points
>enough of an illusion of variety that people don't get board
Not even Star Wars or Harry Potter can boast all of this.

If you really want a nice little trip down the rabbithole, look at the allegorical interpretation of MoS-BvS. Snyder and Terrio were stepping on some very dangerous toes.

spoon feed me.

Explain, I thought it was just biblical references

I've said too much. They're coming to g

Starting back in MoS, we're given a Superman story that updates the underlying immigrant story component of his character. His outfit is no longer just Kryptonian fabric, it's actual ceremonial garb. Simply by putting it on, he's actively choosing to stand forth and act as a sort of cultural/goodwill ambassador, as his own father says, act as "a bridge between two peoples." Zod, on the other hand, has no interest in assimilation, tolerance, or compromise. Superman represents the best of all possible immigrants - the one who adopts our way of life while honoring his heritage, bringing forth the positive while leaving the negative behind. Zod represents what we fear - the radical seeking to impose his culture upon us. In essence, Zod is the spirit of fanaticism and fundamentalism. To him, Kryptonian science and culture is his religion. He is essentially a stand-in for radical Islam or extremism in all its forms.

Now look at how the colonel in MoS changes his attitude concerning Superman. When they first begin their strike on Smallville, he tells his men to open fire on all tartets, but after seeing Superman in action, after being saved by him, he makes the distinction: "This man is not our enemy." This is echoed in BvS when Bruce witnesses Clark facing down Doomsday and comes to see him as not only a man, but also a hero.

In BvS, the allegory expands and clarifies as follows:

Clark :anonymous/invisible "alien"
Superman: visible alien
Bruce Wayne: the native-born American
Lex: The corporate elite/M-I Complex
Doomsday: The "resurrected" corpse of the extremist, brought to life by the blood of the corporate elite. In short: ISIS.

In the Ultimate Cut, we get a scene of Lex(the corporate elite) getting caught literally red-handed standing waist-deep in a substance that looks suspiciously like crude oil making a deal with a "devil" composed of that same substance. In other words, Snyder and Terrio weren't just "naming the Jew," they were naming the Saudi.

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>wtf is this true
Yes, and Momoa bought Snyder a new Leica as a thank you gift.

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I have every reason to believe that in the Snyder Cut of Justice League, the Codex would have had a subtly different role, that Bruce would fear it falling into Steppenwolf's(the "Devil's") hands, as it could be used to mass-produce an army of Kryptonian slaves for the New Gods, a replacement for their Parademons.

It's at this point I should probably remind you that the word "codex" means "book," and it's got some very long-standing religious connotations. The first holy text to begin its existence in the form of a codex? The Quran.

It began with Darkseid attacking earth and beong driven by the alliance, thi was retooled in the released version as a comparatevily shorter flashback where Darkseid was swapped with steppenwolf.

And that's just the broad strokes.

You're an idiot. Know I don't want movies cut down, but the studio IS going to cut movies down. So his movies turn out to be shit as too much has been cut. If people aren't going to give him the time he needs to tell a story, then they shouldn't fucking hire a guy whose moves needs 4 hours.

I agree with that sentiment. They should let him tell stories how he wants to tell them or find someone else.

>JL:snyder cut
>remove quips
>add 3rd rate bible imagery
>same failure
do people really think that the synder cut would have been better?

aren't there already two cuts available for download?

one that's way more red and one that isnt

Beautiful post.
>In other words, Snyder and Terrio weren't just "naming the Jew," they were naming the Saudi.
And this is absolutely why Justice League was sabotaged. Snyder and Terrio flew to close to home and got burned for it. There's still a chance we will see the Snyder cut but probably not for a long time, if ever. Which is maddening.

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I think I've seen your posts before, they are very articulate and to the point. Great post(s).

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According to all the rumors and what was leaked out, this is what we were supposed to get int he Snyder cut:
>more footage of the alternate timeline where Darkseid takes over
>Cyborg's flashback of a car accident that killed his mother and almost killing him
>footage of Aquaman and Vulko together
>Cyborg struggling with being half human
>more scenes with Flash and his father in prison
>Flash learning about time travel through Bruce Wayne, setting up for a Flashpoint movie
>Lex Luthor in Arkham Asylum talking to the league
>Deathstoke fighting Batman and breaking Lex out of prison
>Bearded Superman and the black suit
>that scene from the movie trailer where Superman is greeted by Alfred
>Darkseid cameo where he kills Steppenwolf after failing to take over Earth
>Barry asking Iris out and telling his dad that he got a job at the police department at the end of the movie
Why did WB/Wheadon thought these scenes were necessary to delete?

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Thanks, guys. Now I'm off to work.

All of that sounds fucking amazing.

Here's the temple for the extended history lesson.

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Snyder himself said that there was enough footage to make a four hour long movie

Exactly. You don't get someone like Snyder and tell him "Listen 2 hours and 15 minutes". You get someone who can work within those time constraints.

>there was enough footage to make a four hour long movie
Yep. All that was needed for release was finishing cgi and scoring the soundtrack. Final polish and it's done. Probably tightened to 3 and a half hours but yes there is a complete film with Snyder.
>You get someone who can work within those time constraints.
Fuck off. It's Justice League. It must be an epic, not a solo type film.

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Good God, the detail of that set.

>Good God, the detail of that set.

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I really, really like those robed "priests." They make me imagine DeSaad.

Some of that is true some isnt.

In Snyder´s version Steppenwolf is decapitated by WW as he is about to fall on a Boom Tube to escape.

Cyborg´s father dies and leaves a message for him thaat got retooled as Lois´s moonologue at the end in the relesed version.

As far as we know Darkseid is only confirmed to appear in 3 scenes, the beginning which got retooled as a flashback and swapped Darkseid with Steppnwolf in the released version, A vision Cyborg has and lastly across a boom tube where he looks at the league face to face at the end.

There are lots of stuff out there thats misinformation with guesses and half facts, or just simply plausible but not confirmed stuff.

Generally Cyborg got cut hard on the story department, not only we see his story before the accident, theres some point at which Cyborg has this trippy shit where he travels through the different plaes the mothere box has been through the ages and something apparently tries to trip him with visions of his dead family(including his father who has died by this point)

Apparently everything points that Flash makes a really cool thing at the end where Cyborg calls his name when he is going to explode or something related to the mothr box and then flash has to run so fucking fast that time warps or something not completely undiclosed yet happens, but its in the trailers where you can see going across the final setpiece at full speed.

Apparently theres a whole superman fight scene thats not in the film where he fights "unhinged" whatever that means is a mistery.

Another little thing is that the military are shooting the heroes whil they fight superman so when flash is going fast and fighting superman the bullets are travelling between them and they are evading them.

Has anyone attempted to translate all that?

Rumors notwithstanding, it's pretty clear we were robbed. The story sounds so much more thought out and complex than what we got.

Snyder is making a zombie movie for Netflix iirc. And then he is going to make a historical epic based on the Revolution I think.

>In Snyder´s version Steppenwolf is decapitated by WW as he is about to fall on a Boom Tube to escape.
I remember this rumor too, but it was around the time time Joss was doing reshoots
>Cyborg´s father dies
Really interesting. I'd prefer to have him alive because the father/son relationship was one of the things I liked about Cvborg int he comics
>Generally Cyborg got cut hard on the story department
That's true. A lot of the leaked footage was about cyborg related stuff

>Fuck off. It's Justice League. It must be an epic, not a solo type film.

Then you do what Marvel did and break that shit into two movies if you're not going to give it the appropriate time. Instead they shoehorned everything into a time constraint and ended up with a shitty movie because of it.

I think the scene with superman and alfred ended up getting released right?

wasn't justice league initially going to be a 2 parter?

probably. I don't quite remember

Snyder shared pics of steppenwolf death and explaied that in his movies only a god can kill another god.

The death of Cyborg´s father was reported by the actor off the record to the editor of a magazone who later reported it and explained the dialogue swap they did, this lines with what the actor said that they changed things to make the movie less darker.

I'm looking forward to both. The zombie flick sounds like it's got an interesting angle.

>a 2 parter?
Yes. It was going to end a bit like Final Crisis with a resolution for the knightmare future.

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But jusging by the work in progress pics of Steppenwolf´s death, its sad to see that apparently his redesign was mandated while Zack was still in the film so whatever version they put out will still have the redesign, the orginal wasnt perfect but at least would be consistent with BvS.

This is what "Wonder Woman" should look like, some meat on the bones, not the skinny thing we got stuck with.

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>OOH MAN IT WAS SOO GOOO YOU SHOULD'VE SEEN IT BRUH I CAN'T SHOW YOU ANY OF THIS AND IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER AT THIS POINT BUT YOU GOTTA TRUST ME DUDE IT WAS EPIC SAUCE

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found it
youtube.com/watch?v=HbQ4sB-mSHc

The original movie was going to be a two-parter, but Snyder and Terrio were stopped because the producers felt the movie would be too creepy and scary, and they didn't want any of that after the critics bashed BvS for being too dark and morose.

So the new movie was rewritten to be a solo and be more optimistic. This is when Steppenwolf gained the new, less creepy design. Still Snyder was trying to do his own thing despite it all.
Then Snyder is out, Whedon is in, and the movie is changed further to cut out most of what Snyder did and add all of Whedon's scenes meant to make the plot simpler and the movie more lighter.

The original version of the idea, after BvS´reaction scared warner, Justice league 1 became stand alone and retooled while being shot since they where filming 1 month after BvS premiered (we didnt even see the ultimate cut by then), apparently what got aborted waas mainly all elements that tied directly with the future plot and Darkseid became more of a tease instead of the big bad of the whole 2 part "epic", maybe, just maybe this is the point where someone got th idea of replacing himwith Steppenwolf in the ancient battle.

Also probably rewrote and excised Anti-life from the plot at this moment.

What they shot was a stand alone version and supposedly less darker concept than the original "part 1" script but later got even more buthchered with the reshoots that changed the whol tone and story even more.

its been nearly 7 years user

Undeniably based post. MoS/BvS are fucking incredible.

It was going to be Megan Gale at one point. But that was before the DCEU.

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is there a way to save a whole thread? ive found my brothers here and i should die with tem

people would have still bitched
is that a legit pic or just concept art?

Photo study for how the character would look, done with the actress that'd play the role.

Good. I fucking hate Whedon that fucking beta faggot.

>imagine being this brainlet
you want 1 hour full of quips silly disneyrat? kys

Dominion, the exorcist prequel. The initial release was cgi jumpscare bullshit, but the Dominion version is worthy of the original.

>liking spiderverse

you are a faggot with shit taste

Whedon scenes:

>Superman's cellphone recording.
>Batman VS. The Parademon.
>The "Believer" exchange.
>Minor dialogue additions when Batman attempts to recruit Aquaman ("I don't mind if the ocean rises")
>Batman and Wonder Woman discussing the nature of the Mother Boxes on the lakeside cabin.
>The "what is brunch" gag when Bruce recruits Flash
>Minor dialogue additions in the sewer battle ("He's actually pretty tall...")
>Batman encouraging Flash to save one person.
>Flash faceplanting in Wonder Woman's tits
>Batman and Alfred talking about Superman.
>Batman mentioning Steve Trevor to rile up Wonder Woman.
>The "Do you bleed" exchange.
>Wonder Woman resetting Batman's shoulder.
>Martha reuniting with Clark.
>The "I believe in truth" exchange.
>The "I don't not like you" exchange.
>Superman helping Flash evacuate the village.
>Superman helping Cyborg separate the Mother Boxes.
>The interludes with the Russian family.
>Superman freezing Steppenwolf's axe.
>Steppenwolf being swarmed by his own Parademons and disintegrated by the boom tube.
>Wonder Woman preventing a robbery in London in the end montage.
>The "I bought the bank" exchange.
>The Superman/Flash race.

into the snyderverse

>I met my wife on that job.
Do you think the Z man himself set them up?

The chad whedon weinsteining girls behind his wife's back for decades and getting away with it
The virgin justice league cinematographer crying like a baby

I have no trouble believing that he would.

>A collection of Snyders from alternate realities join forces to rescue kino from the clutches of corporatized mediocrity

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Nobody got more fucked over with Whedon's meddling in JL than Flash

that shot of batman with the sniper always looked off to me, like it looked like some tv show or something

Cyborg did.

Dawn of the dead 2005 written by James Gunn directed by Snyder. This I think proves your point

Thanks Zach, I hope your cut gets released

It undermines WB decisions, not a good look.

So even if its better they aint spreading there cheeks for the fanz

While the lighting and framing changes were terrible, them not even bothering to match Affleck's fucking hairpiece in insert shots in the same fucking scene was just absolute nobody gives a fuck tier.

So basically, WB are a bunch of whiny old Boomers, and Whedons a hack?

I feel bad for Snyder

Fuck off Ralph! What do Cinematographers actually know about cutting movies MotherFucker!? Go Fucking go Jerk off to Fucking Sucker Punch MotherFucker!

It sucks. Regardless of what people think the quality would have been, it would have been better and less expensive to just let him finish and release his version. Especially since they are dumping the shared universe aspect of the movies.

>Fuck off Ralph! What do Cinematographers actually know about cutting movies MotherFucker!? Go Fucking go Jerk off to Fucking Sucker Punch MotherFucker!

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ABSOLUTELY FUCKING KINO AND BASEDPILLED

FABIAN EXPLAINS HOW HIS CUT WOULD HAVE SAVED DC

youtube.com/watch?v=nBh-Z_c61k4

>JL is shit
>faggots cry to this day about it saying that there is an amazing perfect version of the movie hidden away in a secret vault

>In denial shill.
It exists. Cope harder.

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release the snyder butt lmao

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KHEE
KNOW

>Snyder cut
Stop.

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>Doomsday: The "resurrected" corpse of the extremist, brought to life by the blood of the corporate elite. In short: ISIS.

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I'll give Snyder that. He knows how to light and compose shots. Shoulda stuck to being a cinematographer.

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oh shit. I totally forgot Snyder started directing videos for Morrisey.

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i really love this part

BASED

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