Why does this need to be a joker movie if batman's not in it?

why does this need to be a joker movie if batman's not in it?

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Capeshit is the biggest crutch for poor storytelling since Hollywood sold the idea of “A-list” celebrities.

because it's an origins movie. batman begins lacked any joker and nobody questioned it for that

Because it's a physiologist shit movie about self-love and its shitty.

>why does this need to be a joker movie
So people go see it.

But in reality it's actually just a film, the script isn't based on any comic book at all. And that is why it will be great

Why does a movie about character A need character B in it?

why comic movies need to be so shitty anyway?

You make no sense

If he's a clown, why didn't they colour the letters in the movie's logo? What's with this black-and-white urban grunge shit?

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This looks like the one meme with the strange looking character’s hands out. Like a Brazilian TF2 scour. Anyone that knows what I’m talking about please post it

is that a legit poster? looks so rubish

Because it's about a regular person that is still a regular person at the end of their piece of shit.

But they are coloured. Look at the fucking pic you posted

you're absolutely right and I hate it

Retarded OP, Joker is a whole new character independent of any previous intellectual property. The DC Joker has nothing to do with this kino.

>kino

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Imagine if the release actually coincides with the beginning of another economic crisis. Just imagine the absolute kino. 5 oscars for sure!

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>this need
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But the title is colored user

>he spends his time screencapping twitter
>but it's alright because it's ironically

joker only works in contrast to batman. that's the point of his character. putting him in a stand alone joker film is redundant because of this. with out the dynamic between the joker and batman he's interchangeable with any other bad guy and doesn't need to be the joker. batman has conflict with other villains so his character doesn't just rely on his dynamic with the joker. a film about batman makes more sense than a stand alone film about the joker.

>economic crisis
unfortunately under the brilliant leadership of trump that's unlikely to happen. would be pretty kino tho... oh well

>kino

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>the script isn't based on any comic book at all. And that is why it will be great
You could just watch Taxi Driver instead tho

Joker doesn't have an origin.
That's his origin.

Because it's not a children's movie, user. Nice dubs, though.

Why you being the Joker bro?

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b-but my epic capeshit

>You could just watch Taxi Driver instead tho
Too realistic. Sometimes it's nice to add a bit of near impossible fiction to a grounded plot.

This one is more relatable because I didn't have to fight in Vietnam to become insaneHAHA

>why does this need to be a joker movie if batman's not in it?

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Holy shit.

It would be nice if Joe Kababey appeared as one of the rioting guys in the background.

>movie ends with real news footage of the El Paso and Daytona shootings, and Trump, followed by a message from the director against incel shooters
>ends with upside down US flag

That was so fucking appalling when I saw it. What was spike thinking?

He maybe thought the movie was too subtle for the braindead sjw audience without those final scenes

Wait what movie are you talking about where this actually happens?

haha get fucked capeshitter

Blackkklansman lol

Every bat villain works in conjunction to Gotham and not Batman. Batman just happens to be doing his job when his villains go mental. You have to put into context that Batman as a comic is a reaction to the 1929 Great Depression.

Hollywood finally realized that a capeshit movie can't be gritty or realistic if it's still fundamentally a capeshit movie.

(and that's a good thing. Here's why...)

>because it's an origins movie.
why is there a trend of making origin stories/prequels that are set in a separate continuity... is it just because people like references to other things that they fondly recall better than actual stories?

Damn you Americans keep your best shit to the domestic market only :(

In this movie the Joker is based off of the average DCU fan.
The original joker was a bad ass gangster. Now he is a whiny baby-man.
>>wahhhhhh society made me crazy

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sales

For me it's because the Joker is a character that could easily exist in real life, i.e. a psycho who wears clown makeup and does bad stuff. And it's obvious they want to go in that direction. But seeing a fag wearing all black armor with bat ears? Please. No matter how hard Nolan tried to makeup Batman seem realistic it just didn't work.

They didn’t include Batman because they don’t want to remind the audience the Joker is apart of the shitty DCU.

>Some faggot somewhere thought making the logo a pastel/easter/babies r us color palette was a good idea.

Almost forgot that most people on this website have no taste

Bruh....

>society made me crazy
That's literally his origin, read The Killing Joke

Gotham is an aspect to joker's origin but so is batman. without batman the story being about joker is pointless. he could be replaced with any other character and it wouldn't matter.

what's the point of establishing joker in an origin story if i doesn't lead to a conflict with batman? it's pointless.

because theres spiderman

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Joker will redpill to normies. They will learn to fear us

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just did my joker makeup, gonna go play some wicked pranks on people later today

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