Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system...

>Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too close to the system. He should've stopped outside the Hoth system then crawl at sublight speed for months until reaching the system, with all the ships giving out heat signatures that can be picked out light years away, then after reaching the system advance to Hoth hiding between celestial bodies and hoping the Rebels won't detect the heat signatures

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The question here is the rebel shield. When they turn it on. Obviously they can't keep it on 24/7 or else it would not have been activated when the Empire was detected.
The shield being on requires a troublesome ground assault to deactivate it. It would be a lot easier if the Empire could destroy it from space before it was turned on.
Thus, coming out of lightspeed further away would make more sense. The majority of the fleet could be hidden behind a moon or the planet itself and a small craft or squadron could destroy the generator before it's turned on.
The proper strategy here is therefore not surprise, but stealth

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>heat signatures

Should have brought an interdictor cruiser to keep rebel ships from escaping the system.

Why didn't they just hyperspace ram the planet?

>heat signatures that can be picked out light years away
But, by definition, the heat/light will only be detectable light years away after years have passed.

if a fleet drops out of lightspeed outside system will have its heat signatures picked up before they arrive at target

I like how that guy still has enough respect for the chain of command to at least attempt to defend Ozzel.

I don't remember anyone ever mentioning heat signatures in the movie.

What I would do is repeatedly come into and go out of lightspeed at random points on a sphere around the target planet, adjusting how close I was to account for the time between jumps, so then they'd have multiple incoming signatures all at the exact same range and they wouldn't know which one was me. So they don't know where to run, everywhere they turn there's me.

but hey that's just my opinion

This.
Imagine just being the ship and slamming into those terrorists, feelinjg them fly off the body, knowing your ship was just a bullet hurling through the hot, molten core. no survivors

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The holdo maneuver was not invented then

That only works if you compulsively pull your shirt down every time you stand up.

god I fucking hate these trade taxes

I know, ill hold a planet hostage och kidnap the royal family, that'll show them

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they did nothing wrong
fuck the republic

>be grumbling about some fucking trade thing I don't know
>guy comes to you "it would help to blockade this planet"
>well nah I mean it seems like that would just-
>guy waves him hand and again say "it would help to blockade this planet"
>well sure ok why not

the plan does make sense tho
the trade federation is the biggest trade conglomerate in the galaxy, they have their own personal army and everything

The rebublic wouldnt aboslish their tax through politics so something else had to be done
A symbolic occupation and blockade of a wealthy planet would show the republic that they arent fucking around

Because cis white males don't have the strategic brilliance of female qweens

yaaaaas

Heat signatures are obviously a non factor in Star Wars as they are never mantioned, its a fantasy world with retarded rules but alas here we are

>Is that... Reeegar?
Jesus George

>trade empire
>richest in the galaxy with a army of souless identical machines
>takes controll of planets
>asian accents
did george know about chinas rise to dominance?

in reality they would get their concessions short term and the Republic would quietly smother the federation. Any slightly competent government won't tolerate an uncontrollable entity unless the members of both are either working together or largely the same people

What the actual FUCK did you mean by this!?

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>Any slightly competent government
thats the problem, the republic was really fucking incompetent
the trade federation had their own seat in the republic senate even if they werent a planet

It's a good thing a Sith lord is the supreme chancellor isnt it?

>The shield being on requires a troublesome ground assault to deactivate it. It would be a lot easier if the Empire could destroy it from space before it was turned on.

But wait, why not just fly the Star Destroyers down to the planet and attack with them? Even if we hold it to be true that the shield can deflect "any" bombardment, those ships would make quick work of the meager Rebel resistance.

their plan was to stay in orbit to shoot the ships when they left the system, but the ion cannon shot and deactivated a ship

That's assuming they weren't already evacuating the base, but they were, admiral ozzel was right, even if it was for the wrong reasons. Had they waited for a strike team to go in the evacuation would have been completed by the time they were finished, at least the blockade gave them a chance of intercepting to rebels trying to escape.

He's referring to the Picard Maneuver from Star Trek

>But wait, why not just fly the Star Destroyers down to the planet and attack with them?
Not only does a Star Destroyer require a massive amount of energy to be in orbit but planetary shields are a major issue for repulsor driven craft. You're also forgetting the Rebels had an Ion Cannon. A Star Destroyer with its energy disabled in orbit would be catastrophic.

That's retarded since the Empire's original plan was to destroy most of the base from orbit before they could enable their shield. They knew the Empire was coming they just didnt know when. Ozzel fucked up the element of surprise.

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There was no element of surprise, the rebels were already evacuating. Like I said, Ozzel was right for the wrong reasons.

So landing and setting up surface attack versus an orbital bombardment which would've annihilated the rebellion was smarter?

Brainlets still somehow have trouble understanding the phantom kino

How would they have performed an orbital bombardment? Either they bring the fleet out in which case the shield goes up and they gain nothing, or they send in some stealthy strike team while the fleet hides but the rebels complete their evac anyway and there is nothing left to bombard. Not sure why this is hard for you to understand but the rebels were already leaving before the imperial fleet even arrived. If they had slow rolled it the rebels would have simply been gone before they had a chance to do any sneaky shit and take the shield generator down, thus popping up and trying to intercept fleeing rebels was the best option, ergo ozzel was correct.

>tfw asian friend refers to those guys as the asian aliens

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I'm fairly certain the plan was to have some ground forces go in and take out the shield right away then move the fleet in right after. The only reason it took so long to take out the shield was because the at-at had to get in range. Also the admiral didn't actually think the rebels were there so he just said fuck it

And while that ground force moves in the rebels are completing their evac, sending in a ground force from farther away is going to take longer, deploying the fleet after the ground force completes its mission is going to take time, meanwhile the rebels are leaving, ozzel was right to pop up and establish a blockade immediately, even if for the wrong reason.

this
u have to be extremley high iq to understand that the prequels are kino

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I disagree. Bombing them from space was a better plan. They would've knocked out the ion cannon and energy shield before they could be deployed and grounded the rebellion right there. Ozzel did something stupid which is give the rebellion time. The Empire was forced to land and take out the shields on foot while ion cannons provided cover fire for their escape.

The at at took out the shield in one shot. If the shield hadn't been up the at at takes it out in like 2 seconds before there's ever even an evac then the fleet moves in and the rebels are fucked