Even if they don't agree with his methods, everyone can admit on some level he was right. So why does no one listen? I think it has everything to do with comfort. The body's basic needs. Food, water, sex, socialising, warmth, shelter. Even the lowest of the low possess these in society. Their brain tells them "this isn't right" but their body is drunk with comfort and says "fuck off faggot, I can't be arsed with you right now". It's something like that but I can't pinpoint it better, anyone else wanna have a crack at it? At why you think nobody follows in his footsteps despite agreeing he's right?
Just watched My Dinner With Andre, was surprised that Andre was basically saying prof ted stuff
Lucas Cox
If he's right, shut down your computer and go forage some cherries.
Isaac Gonzalez
Manhunt on Netflix is great deconstruction of him and his actions. In summary: he was just lonely degenerate (with some obvious ideas) who needed to get laid
Juan James
>Netflix told me
Nathan Peterson
I don’t watch that shitty propaganda piece. It was obvious after 2 episodes they would paint him as a tragic, sad figure. MC man is some fucking guy that kills his own soul for the fucking fbi, and we’re expected to feel this is the right way??? They did Ted dirty, he did literally nothing wrong except break the so called “law”.
Gavin Davis
>muh vagina >get laid lmao Literally too smart to fall into the female trap
Charles Bell
I wouldn't be surprised if the writer was familiar with the same sorts of philosophies that influenced Teddy
Kayden Martinez
I can see you glowing in the dark from here, fuck off.
>working as a pizza delivery driver last summer >wear hat + sunglasses + beard because too lazy to shave for this lame job >random customers says "Dude, you look like the unabomber." >just laugh and say "Yeah" when in reality I've read ISAIF multiple times
Yeah, of course he was right. Does it matter anyway? What can we do about it? Nothing. Too late. We're in full corporate-tech dystopia now, the masses are brainwashed by media and all dissident thought or action that poses a real threat to the system is instantly detected and erased. Our chance has passed, it's all downhill from here.
There is not such a high level of control as you think. There is a window of time between now and when technophiles use genetic engineering to stop violence where technoindustrial society can be destroyed.
Thomas Mitchell
Anti-Tech Revolution was only published 3 years ago. Perhaps he is preparing another book?
He killed innocent men for no fucking reason. If you gonna say it was for a purpose of getting attention for his ideas, he could do that by blowing up a building or something and reach the same result. So in the end he was just murderous psycopath
He was trying to destroy society as we know it. It was righteous violence.
Of course someone “plugged in” would think he was worse than the worst rapist and serial killer.
Noah Gonzalez
You can't get rid of technology, it will mean humanity's inevitable death. Unless he's talking about something else, I never really read his stuff.
David Morales
Humanity survived without technology for way longer than it has with technology.
Liam Rodriguez
Are you alright? I'm alright, I'm quite alright And my money's right
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Noah Myers
Care to back up your claim that humanity will die without technology?
Ryan Watson
He looks like the Kurgan
Josiah Davis
If he tried to wake everybody up and present his ideas to them then literally the stupidiest thing to do was to start randomly killing people. Now even those, who could agree with manifesto and his other work (normies, who support Greenpease or stuff like that), hates him and will never accept him. So if he really tried to destroy the current state of society and wake people up, he fucked up big time
Jordan Jenkins
Doesn't matter. No technology = never leave this planet and eventually die. Technology might bring slow death or fast death, but also a chance of survival, spread of humanity through the universe and who knows what else. To deny this and live like cavemen is the biggest crime we can commit.
Henry Torres
But he needed to kill people because of his mental problems. Stop idealizing him and his methods, it's pathetic
Caleb Martinez
This is the most reddit ideology there is. You're really worried about humanity dying when, what, the sun dies or something? So what? A billion year lifespan isn't enough for you? You technophiles want to live forever even if it means being a slave to machines?
Asher Bailey
Who will play him in the inevitable biopic? Also, fuck the techno-industrial society.
Luis Green
What mental problems?
Jack Johnson
Lmao, as if “green parties” really want to save the earth. All they want to do is remove the cognitive dissonance of partaking in activities that destroy the earth (like being a part of the global economy, being a consumer) with the personal feelings of not wanting to be a part of the system. The capitalist industrial society cannot be reformed or healed. If you can wrap your head around that, kaczynski makes sense.
Dylan Thomas
The problem with the green party is that they don't actually think technology itself is the problem. They believe that they can simply solve problems caused by technology with MORE technology
Brayden Scott
Sorry to tell you this, but having a space-faring race simply isn't possible. There just aren't enough resources on the planet to support this. If it was possible, we'd have evidence of other races doing it. Sorry bud
Jeremiah Baker
read ellul
Noah Rodriguez
Where do I start?
Hudson Wilson
Anprim is too far. You want to throw away thousands of years of medical advancements? No way. And that's the tip of the iceberg.
Jack Taylor
Didn't this fag want to become a girl?
Adam Nelson
There's no way to pick and choose which elements of techno-industrial society are removed
Henry Murphy
i can't wait for all luddites to be fed into the bioprocessors to fuel my distributed cyborg body network spread across the solar system.
You’ll be slave nonhuman (no soul) before that happens. A perfect drone
Matthew Parker
How about none of them.
Isaiah Morris
I have, it's pretty interesting. The Technological Society.
Austin Sanchez
>never leave this planet and eventually die so like every other organism that's ever existed on this planet? who said we need to "spread ourselves throughout the universe"?
Dominic Ortiz
Guns and the means to effectively combat other men with guns aren't going anywhere. It's a nice idea but there's no going back, other answers will have to be found going forward.
Jordan Morales
Ted was wanted to go back to pre-industrial revolution. He wasn't anti technology itself.
Caleb Jackson
The Amish have a pretty good system of selecting what innovations they want to include or disregard based upon how it affects their communities and families what Ted K. is proposing would require almost religious anti-technological beliefs among the general population so I don't know if I entirely agree with his assessment
Lincoln Wright
Yes, if America could essentially become Amish that would be based.
Charles Robinson
Ah yes, so glad we had a Netflix show to set the record straight on this real person and deconstruct his actions
Adrian Martinez
quiet, meat.
Adrian Bennett
he points out the industrial revolution in particular, especially his thesis but upon reading the rest of the manifesto he does not actually advocate pre-industrial societies so much as total anarchy, tribalism, and anti-technological beliefs for instance advanced division of labor and complex social structures existed in societies such as the Roman Empire and by his anti-authoritarian views I can only imagine he would not support such a society either
Leo Adams
Basically he says there's a difference between a tool that a small community can make (a wagon) and a technology that requires an industrial society to make (a refrigerator)
Isaac Foster
>tool that a small community can make (a wagon) Or even a tool that you can make yourself. For instance when he was living innawoods he built his own single shot .22 rifle.
I get the idea he was very uncomfortable with anything less than total self reliance. In his writings he admits he wasn't able to ever truly be fully autonomous, he still had to buy some supplies, but he did try.
it's a very anti-individualistic lifestyle though I don't think a lot of people quite understand that there's a reason that in a population of a couple hundred thousand there's only a handful of long term converts you really have to be born into it
Lucas Jackson
>fast car, nascar, race something I want a toad for this feel
Isaac Russell
Hopefully more people will understand as the nefarious influence of technology grows
Angel Carter
This. It's probably the closest thing to actual communism we'll ever see
Leo Howard
Did Kaczynski ever speak openly on the JQ?
Robert Robinson
>be capitalist living in the USSR >"Dude but you LIVE in communism lmao you're such a poser!"
Brayden Davis
As far as I know, no. He didn't care about that stuff.
Luke Sanchez
No, he wasn't a brainlet
Henry Taylor
does he just want to only abolish modern technology or does he want us to return to hunter gatherer ways and shun symbolic thought as well
Jace Scott
He seems to be fine with technology that can be accomplished on a small community scale
Hudson Brooks
No, he was a cowardly murderer. Get offline and rethink your life. The last past is ironic.
Christian Cook
so he wants people to become amish?
Carson Turner
*part
Carter Gutierrez
>he just needed sex trope Fuck off kike.
Matthew Watson
imagine living in the world where facebook, google, apple, and assorted media conglomerates run rampant and still thinking that computer scientists are innocent
Nathaniel Butler
I totally agree with him and his methods. I can't be arsed to actually pull shit like that though. The pure existential pain of knowing I did this much so literally nothing changes anyway is too much for me. I prefer laughing it all off.
>imagine living in the world where porn runs rampant and still thinking that Louis Daguerre was innocent
Nathaniel Cruz
Yall think Ted has lost his virginity yet?
Alexander Perez
Weak faggots We said it, we want to and some will do it or die trying. What sets humans apart from other living things? Our thirst for knowledge and our refusal to let nature dictate how we live, among other things. We bend mother nature over and force her to do our bidding. Will we ascend to the stars? is it possible? Who knows. Look at all the things we thought impossible that now are possible. This is what it means to be human.
Caleb Gray
>he unironically thinks space travel is feasible yes goyim keep destroying the planet
Christopher Watson
>We bend mother nature over and force her to do our bidding
And how has that worked out so far? Climate change is currently he biggest threat to humanity's continued existence
We’ll live, well some of us will. A small price to pay for progress. We will find a middle ground eventually
Lucas Peterson
>You will die >But it's okay, Elon Musk will take us to Mars! Epic!
William Moore
>progress >inherently good
Yes, the last 100 years have been non-stop fun
Dylan Diaz
I agree that our society is a massive shit in need of flushing, but that doesn't mean a technological society isn't possible. We're just doing it wrong and need to cut our losses and start over with something a bit different like national socialism. If we follow Ted all the way then we'll never reach the stars and we'll all be some advanced alien civilization's rape dolls. We'll never see the liberating mass automation and production that follows a singularity or answer our deepest questions. We'll just inevitably end up arriving at a similar point over and over, breaking the system again and again until we accidently wipe ourselves out for good.
Hunter Parker
>In his writings he admits he wasn't able to ever truly be fully autonomous, he still had to buy some supplies To be fair, he was one person in the woods. In the more ideal settings he imagined he would have been living in a community and wouldn't have had to settle for buying a lot of the things he bought since others would have likely made it.
Anyone involved in defending Exxon deserves death.
No, his wizard powers allowed him to build good bombs. Fire powers.
Supposedly he had a book in the works attacking his brother and a book he wrote, but it was never published. It would be nice if his autobiography were published too, at this point the only way to read it is to go to Michigan.
Not once did I say progress is good. We make progress and attain knowledge for it’s own sake
Liam Reed
I'm surprised this thread is still up
Easton Martinez
Read his biography. Regardless of how logical his manifesto was, it's clear he had severe mental and emotional issues and that these dictated much of his thought patterns. In his late 40s he was still trying to contact some girl who he thought had a crush on him when he was ~20 years old, and was asking his psychiatrist to set him up on a date with one of her female patients.
Alexander Nguyen
More will be saved as a result of technological progress than will die as a result of it. It has always been that way throughout history with very few exceptions
Joshua Peterson
If it's not good, why do it?
Jaxon Collins
>severe mental and emotional issues I wouldn't say it was severe. He clearly had autism, true, but the schizophrenia diagnosis is bullshit. Also, even with the possible mental illness, it still doesn't take away from what he said, which is overall pretty good; his weakest points tend to be his descriptions and discussions of society, possibly weakened by his autism. Again though, the diagnosis is spot on.
Jordan Harris
On the contrary, the events of history that caused the most death were all caused by technology. Plagues and famines are a result of humans living in crowded cities and relying on a few crops. Wars and genocides are a result of civilizations.
Isaac Turner
The top causes of death are diseases caused by technology (cancers and heart disease) and things like car accidents. Technology has absolutely killed and hurt more people than it has helped and our populations are only as large as they are due to technology.
Xavier Sanders
Fact is, a technological society can exist if we somehow find a way for FTL travel. In that scenario we won't be Earthbound and conflict/poor management of resources will drastically go down, so we might be able to live with commodietes and comfort without the psychological and sociological blights of the modern world.
But as of now, FTL travel is purely sci-fi.
Matthew Thompson
“Technology” isn’t just a fucking iPhone. A spear is technology. A point rock is technology.
Oliver Hall
But people are discussing technology here as per what Kaczynski describes, hence it being a Kaczynski thread.
Blake Bell
Because we want to, that’s why. Theres an endless expanse outside of this prison of a rock we call earth, are we forced to remain shackled to it because environmentalists and moralists say so?
Liam Kelly
>Why? >Because we want to
I'm totally convinced. Just put the chip in my arm now.
Gavin Allen
The Neolithic Revolution was a mistake
Luke Jackson
So, how does he plan to deal with natural planet-level threats, e.g. asteroids?
Shoot arrow at them?
Michael Gonzalez
How many people have been saved because ambulances got them to tge hospital on time? How many people have been saved because of medical science? How many people have been saved because modern farming techniques allow us to feed millions who would have otherwise starved? How many have been saved because water is readily available in their own homes instead of having to travel miles just to get to a natural water supply? How many have been saved because you can warm yourself easily during the winter instead of freezing to death? I could go on.
Liam Rogers
Nobody is trying to convince you, that’s what you don't understand. Your support or consent is not needed.
Ayden Collins
When you take into account that our populations are unnaturally large due to technology, the number of lives saved by weak shit like "ambulances getting to the hospital on time" is nothing, especially since again the largest causes of death are things caused by technology (and modernity) like infectious diseases, cancer, heart disease and then violent deaths like car accidents (which kills tons of people).
Before anyone point it out I am aware that heart disease and especially cancer can exist without modernity, but they are far, far less common than they are now. Heart disease for example is extremely rare in hunter gatherers.
Also having to fetch water rather than having indoor plumbing isn't as deadly as you seem to think it is, not sure what you meant by that. And people managed to warm themselves for thousands of years (remember humans existed during the ice age) without needing industrial technological systems to keep them alive.
Nathan Foster
>Techno babbies get BTFO in every Ted Kaczynski thread How's that possible?
Hunter Miller
>board dedicated to television and film is the most greenpilled
Medical science is the one thing that would really be missed. But your other points are over-exaggerated. We only need modern farming because technology allows for these massive populations. And hunter-gatherers typically do not just starve and die since they can simply migrate to find more food. They had countless generations of survival knowledge so the outdoors wasn't as dangerous for them as it is for us.
Brody Diaz
Not him but obviously do nothing. Even now there isn't a guarantee that our technology could save us (the bigger issue being that there isn't even really anybody monitoring this in any real or official sense).
Gabriel Morales
cringe linkola or bust
Ryan Flores
So, the anti-technology stance is one that cannot guarantee the survival of the species.
Why should I or anyone else agree with it?
Samuel King
Harvard and the Unabomber is a good one, Prisoner of Rage (the lengthy article), etc.
I mean, it's clear that he struggled to relate to and converse with others his entire life. Sure he was a genius mathematician and his manifesto is very interesting, but much of his behaviour was fuelled by anger, frustrated and desperation.
John Russell
>TFW your slow burn, bone chilling crime spree is interrupted by a jumpscare-type law enforcement crackdown which deprives you the chance to live in an organically nurtured, thought provoking, society.
Because neither can the current techno society. Asteroids? How about the fact that we're destroying ourselves this very moment with climate change?To me, this and the loss of meaningful autonomy due to technology is more concerning.
Christopher Murphy
>Just let the asteroid wipe us out guys, dont even attempt to save yourselves Wow fantastic, I'm convinced.
Easton Hall
Those things provide a public good though
Bentley Cooper
>current And that's why we should keep on developing it.
-Develop Technology Possible solution to extinction level disaster
-No Technology Guarantee no solution to extinction level disaster
Connor King
Industrial technology can't guarantee the survival of the species either. And the possibility of an asteroid ending everything is just that, a possibility. And as the other user said, we are guaranteeing our own destroying by destroying the environment.
As opposed to what we are doing now, which is nothing. Look it up.
Christopher Reed
>sir, the Behavioral Analysis Unit went through all the forensic data, interviewed dozens of witnesses and consulted with the nations top psychiatrists. Here's the final report. (The director opens the folder) >There is only one page. And it says "have sex" >Yes sir (dramatic pause) >excellent work, Agent Johnson. Your team is a credit to the law enforcement community
>So, how does he plan to deal with natural planet-level threats, e.g. asteroids? >Shoot arrow at them?
You man up and die.
Daniel Hall
>MUH FRANKFURT ACADEMY
They were right about 90% of things and screaming JEWISH isn't going to solve that
Ryder Taylor
>Hunter gather societies dont just starve and die They dont anymore but they used to, all the time. Many hunter gatherer societies died out because of hunger and disease
Logan Davis
>develop technology >destroy the earth ourselves >live in weird inhuman conditions
>no technology >But what if an asteroid hits us?
Honestly I think this is a bit of a weak argument. Asteroids are a hypothetical threat. Are they even a common occurrence? I don't really think so.
Austin Martin
I thought that was Clancy Brown for a sec, sorry I'm not American, just read through the thread and he's The Unabomber.
Christian Carter
Prisoner of Rage is good, I haven't read the Harvard one yet.
It is true that a lot of his issues affected how he saw the world and some elements of his life, I'm not denying that (though I also don't think it negates any of his ideas). I do wonder if he had been less autistic if he could have joined a hippie commune or some survivalists and been happy there because you are right, for as much "philosophy" he had, some of his attacks on people, or even attacks he fantasized about, were purely about rage and less about philosophy or direct action (aka terrorism, whatever you want to call it).
I don't think that's the case. However, there have been many devastating famines and diseases in the history of civilization.
Ian Gutierrez
Do you have any citations for that? I'm obviously not saying they are invincible but mass starvation and disease are far more of a threat to established civilization than they would be to hunter gatherers in relative isolation due to the nature of how disease spreads and how these cultures get food. Remember that humans survived the Ice Age as hunter gatherers.
Christian Ortiz
>As opposed to what we are doing now, which is nothing. Look it up. And who’s fault is that?
Brayden White
Well certainly not Ted Kaczynski's.
Kayden Jones
>And the possibility of an asteroid ending everything is just that, a possibility. A possibility become a certainty after millions of millions of years. And it doesn't have to be an asteroid, there are plenty of other potential threats. (not to count that the Sun WILL destroy the Earth after some time).
You guys are pretty shortsighted.
Ryan Watson
You're pretty shortsighted (well, badly baiting but we're biting so kudos I guess) if you can't acknowledge that our guaranteed, current destruction of the planet that we live on due to technology is better than the chance that an asteroid might hit the planet at some point.
Luckily due to technology we'll all likely be dead or soulless robotic genetically engineered cogs in the machine so in the event that an asteroid hits us (because nobody is really watching out for them anyway, I should say again) we won't care.
Adrian Sanchez
Do you want the human race to live forever? Do you want us to outlive the heat death of the universe to? You will die some day. Your son will die some day. Why do we need an infinite line of humans at the expense of the ones who are alive now?
James King
he was a victim of mkultra
Wyatt Kelly
Haha the only short-sighted one here is you. You seem to be highly influenced by dystopian sci-fi too
James Jenkins
Why not though? Why not try to ensure that our species lives on as long as it can? Who knows what me might discover? Theres literally nothing to lose
Easton Edwards
>guaranteed Not really. There is also the strong possibility that technology itself could solve the issue that technology create. Technology is in itself possibility. You are throwing possibility out of the window because you are scared and/or uncomfortable.
I wish I had to not die. The only thing that offer the possibility for that to happen is technology/science.
Anthony Long
Other than the literally guaranteed destruction of our own planet (happening now) and the billions who will die as a result of that. By the way, that will include you.
Ryan Hernandez
I think that there is something to lose. I think Teddy was right and that techno-industrial society is not as fit for humans. I think that if things continue, there won't even be human consciousness for long, only machines. "Disneyland without the kids" as Bostrom says. I also do think that technology is very dangerous as it could destroy the planet via climate change, of course.
Thomas Reed
You're going to die. It is improbable that the secret to immortality will be discovered in the next 50 years.
Austin Davis
>It is improbable that the secret to immortality will be discovered in the next 50 years. This is right but the guy you're responding to reads like he's 12 so I'm sure he has more than 50 years left.
Austin Murphy
instead of looking up and imagining all the sci-fi possibilities which will NEVER happen, you should turn your Eyes on the World around you. You should see how sick and venal society is. Space is a fucking pipe dream that keeps you from looking at your fellow man
Nicholas Allen
neck
Isaiah Harris
>improbable When the alternative is certainty, I'll take that bet.
I think you just underestimate death. In front of death the quality of life stop having any meaning; a king and a beggar are the same the moment they die.
Joshua Phillips
>I'll take that bet. You're going to lose, just letting you know now.
Caleb Ward
Agreed, and I didn't mean to criticize his manifesto on the basis of his having had a life plagued by loneliness etc, it's just that I think his life surely contributed to his becoming so extreme. It's a sad story for everyone involved.
Isaac Jones
Not shortsighted, just pointing out that humans are very adaptable and thus good in surviving, even with a hypothetical asteroid hitting earth. And not only will the sun die out eventually but so will other locations in the universe that could be hospitable since they would need to be near a star. It's all inevitable and even with technology that could potentially create immortality, but only the rich will make sure they're the ones who get it and no one else because fuck them right. And then with all the technology they have at their disposal they will be able to ski on the moons of Jupiter or whatever they think is cool in order to try to fill the emptyness inside, degenerating further and further in their madness until they realise that death is what makes life worth living, and living a good life means (according to Ted) close knit communities where people can look after themselves and have a feeling of control. Leaving earth will be fun in the Disney Star Wars ships but will also lead to nothing
Julian Brooks
TED IS BASED
Cooper Williams
At one point Timothy McVeigh admitted that if he had had a gf/wife (and the possibility of a future, implied) that he likely wouldn't have bombed that building. I have to think probably would have been true for Kaczynski too.
Camden Stewart
putting your faith in technology like a pagan would worship the sun because you're afraid of death seems like a losing proposition. And it is foolish. Accept death. Watch a person die, or visit dying people. Many of them come to terms with it, they have families and they can see it coming. At the end, they're just tired of Life. Clinging to Quality Of Life seems like just the type of poison modern society has given you. There's other things than being comfortable or being sedated.
Jason Taylor
Timothy McVeigh seems more "Surface level" than kaczynski, to be honest.
Jayden Gonzalez
I just started reading ISAIF and holy shit is this dude a bad writer. In the first paragraph alone he repeats himself like 5 times.
Benjamin Myers
Admittedly, the opening is basically a rant against liberals and not as insightful as the rest. I do think it is largely accurate though.
He intended that to be published in major publications so he wanted it to be extremely simple and straightforward. Probably especially to start with, since he likely knew a lot of people would just read the first paragraph and give up.
Adam Long
>death is what makes life worth living, That's a lie. >Watch a person die, or visit dying people. What makes you think I haven't?
>Accept death. Many of them come to terms with it, they have families and they can see it coming. At the end, they're just tired of Life. I firmly believe most people live their lives lying to themselves. >There's other things than being comfortable or being sedated. I don't particularly care about being comfortable. I'd trade the most enjoyable, happy life possible for an immortality of constant suffering. I'll repeat myself but everything is secondary in the face of death.
Oliver Wright
Yes, he apparently had a lot of resentment towards his mother (who left the family partly, apparently again, because she found his father too boring). He tried to date a female co-worker in his mid-20s but had no luck, but then again he reacted with hostility when other girls showed interest in him. Also a very intelligent guy, academically speaking.
Strangely enough they ended up sharing a prison wing for a time, and enjoyed one another's company. If I recall correctly, Tim suggested that Ted read Into The Wild, the Jon Krakauer book about Chris McCandless's adventures in the wilderness.
Adrian Butler
>I'd trade the most enjoyable, happy life possible for an immortality of constant suffering
Why? That's quite strange. Do you have any mental health conditions? Not an insult, genuinely wondering.
David Rodriguez
He didn't repeat himself once you tard
Ethan Foster
>what makes you think i haven't? oh i dunno, the absolute TERROR oozing from every post in this thread? when you see death and accept it as a natural thing, you'll be a lot happier.
Sebastian Bell
But we’re going to die anyway right? Might as well die while striving for something bigger rather than wollowing in our own muck until an asteroid wipes us out or disease or some other thing we could have prevented
Isaac Morris
Assuming this isn't bait (though I actually hope it is for your sake), you need to accept the inevitability of death. Your life will be a lot easier if you start doing that now, because even if tech does manage to "beat" death it won't happen in your lifetime and even if it somehow does (it won't), a pleb like you won't get it. Just accept it now.
Since this is Yea Forums I suggest you watch The Fountain.
Colton Howard
wallowing*
Cameron Moore
I wouldn't say living a simple, natural life is "wallowing"
Evan Turner
Because my leading value is Truth. But even that is meaningless in the face of death. You can spend your life researching, studying and learning, yet the moment you die is the moment you lose everything. This is also the reason why I pine so hard in favor of science/tech; I do strongly believe that to be the best tool to reach any meaningful truth.
I don't particularly care about happiness. Shit is overrated.
Evan Gutierrez
Quite literally THE most Jewish sentence uttered on this website.
Kevin Watson
Since we're going to die I'd rather live a life of satisfaction, contentment and independence (not to mention rational acceptance of the realities of life) rather than living in a shitty situation to maintain a shitty structure that is only making everyone's lives shittier while also destroying the planet we live on guaranteeing death for everyone (or nearly everyone) just for the bizarre hope that the shittiness will theoretically save people down the line.
And again, even if there is an asteroid or disease out there that can kill us, technology is absolutely no guarantee that we'll ever beat it.
Julian Morales
You're sounding even edgier than the people ITT who idolize a guy who mailed bombs to people
Juan Cooper
nhnhnghng
Brayden Wright
He was definitely based.
Brandon Fisher
On the Adam Carolla podcast they showed a picture of young Ted and the cutey Jewess news girl blurted out that he was hot. Don't know if she actually thought he was or it was just a "dangerous and famous = hot" thing but imo Ted was a good looking man in his prime. Mental to think that he never had sex (and never will)
Thomas Roberts
The opposite of edginess is dullness.
Jaxson Reyes
It's never going to happen. It just won't. We, on average, just aren't smart enough and don't live long enough to produce enough talent and great minds without having to breed like fucking rabbits. Humanity having to breed at unsustainable speed in order to maintain scientific progress, which as we delve deeper into constantly requires larger teams of scientists and engineers, means that we will have to endlessly fight the uphill battle of providing basic needs for the growing population until we reach breaking point where no realistic progress can be made as all the resources and all the effort have to be put into maintaining survival of the population. Add the fact that we're a tiny speck in the history of earth and we'll most likely die to some planet wide cataclysm before inventing galactic colonisation and yeah - having those optimistic, naive opinions on mankind's future starts looking pretty reddit.
Justin Mitchell
>right wing environmentalists
How do you end up getting this brainwashed and retarded? There's nothing right wing about being a tree hugging malevolent piece of shit.
Man was made to conquer nature, deal with it.
The planet will get destroyed by the sun eventually anyway.
>end industrial society >"finally we gamers have risen up" >*gets minor cut on rock, >gets infected >no antibiotics to treat it >get gangreen and die without having sex
David Gonzalez
He was objectively attractive. He had weapons grade autism though, hence why he never got a gf (a lesson to all the lookism devotees).
>And again, even if there is an asteroid or disease out there that can kill us, technology is absolutely no guarantee that we'll ever beat it. I dont think anybody said there were any guarantees. But technological advancement offers a chance of survival at least. Then theres the Issue of defence. The native Americans were wiped out because they lacked the technology to defend themselves. Sometimes you cant afford to remain stagnant.
Connor Wood
No it wasn't. Go die at age 30 and stop using technology you self hating piece of shit.
You people are brainwashed and lose every argument. Stop using computers if you hate technology so much lefttard.
Logan Lewis
>which will NEVER happen Oh you naive child.
This mentality is sickening and is everything wrong with the world.
Acting like humanity is doomed without tech is saying there is a guarantee, even though it is ignoring the guarantee of deaths that destroying our environment will lead to. Since technological industrial society is guaranteeing the destruction of much of humanity (not just through environmental degradation but through everything else it causes already discussed ITT) I don't really think the remote possibility of it helping prevent an asteroid strike really justifies it.
And Ted said that all tech needed to be wiped out simultaneously (unrealistic, I won't deny it) to prevent situations like with what happened to the natives (who were mostly killed off by disease, another issue technology won't necessarily prevent).
Ryder Russell
>2019 >not wanting to end biological aging using technology
This thread makes me want to throw my beer cans in the trash instead of the recycle bin.
Benjamin Wilson
Where did that post anthropomorphize the environment?
You clearly don't know what "anthropomorphize" means
Nicholas Sanders
>Where did that post anthropomorphize the environment? It's what all you tedcucks do. You subconsciously think "mother nature" is being hurt and must be saved from evil humans.
>You clearly don't know what "anthropomorphize" means see above
Except that nobody used that phrase in this thread, and discussing negative effects to the environment is not anthropomorphizing it. You just proved you don't know what that word means.
William Young
*well apparently someone did but it was not me and still does not apply to the post you responded to
Aiden Scott
just fucking wash the wound with soap and get some Clean dressing for it. also even an infected wound can be healed, and worse case scenario you can Always get your limb chopped off.
funny thing is, with the current Medical (and farming industry) use of antibiotics, we soon will have bacteria that no longer respond to antibiotics, so even in the Tech society we will die to Cuts and scrapes.
Noah Nelson
>and discussing negative effects to the environment You care about the environment for the sake of the environment, we care about the environment for the sake of benefiting humans.
>*well apparently someone did No shit, you people do it all the time. It's quite funny you call yourself right wing while adopting left wing views.
Blake Lopez
>funny thing is, with the current Medical (and farming industry) use of antibiotics, we soon will have bacteria that no longer respond to antibiotics, so even in the Tech society we will die to Cuts and scrapes. This.
Cauterization is another possibility.
Leo Rodriguez
>we soon will have bacteria that no longer respond to antibiotics >what are bacteriophages and countless other antibacterial techniques that aren't mainstream yet
Thomas Russell
what a fucking tool. why is aging so bad? It's literally your body dying because the dna have reached their lifespan. People get sick all the time. Anti-aging people are just scared of losing all they have, they are too focused on their strengths and abilities and Quick wit but this is all just transient properties. Grow the fuck up.
Kayden Wood
You're making a bunch of shit up though. I never called myself right wing, and in the posts that are clearly mine I repeatedly said that environmental degradation will negatively affect humans (by killing them).
Obsessing over what fits in perfectly to either a "right" or "left" wing ideology just exposes you as the brainlet you are, though you already played yourself by not knowing what "anthropomorphization" means.
>what a fucking tool. You're the tool lol. You want to be a tool of your body instead of the other way around.
>why is aging so bad? It results in pain, suffering and death.
>It's literally your body dying because the dna have reached their lifespan. So? You people commit the naturalistic fallacy constantly, thinking that it MUST be this way and just because it's natural, it's good.
>Anti-aging people are just scared of losing all they have Uh, no shit retard. That's the point.
>Grow the fuck up. Listen to yourself.
>I never called myself right wing I'm obviously referring to tedcucks. Obviously there are plenty of them ITT.
>Obsessing over what fits in perfectly to either a "right" or "left" wing ideology just exposes you as the brainlet you are LOL So pointing out extremely obvious contradictions and nonsense makes me a brainlet? ok kid
Bentley Richardson
Lol. Shut up, you gibberish spouting moron. You're not bending anyting to your will. You are just a weak-minded slave to technology.
Alexander Anderson
i promise you this, if you come up with an alternative to antibiotics that is as good or better at combating bacteria than antibiotics you will literally earn millions. Problem is, it will not happen. Antibiotics was Lightning in a bottle, we can not count on that type of genius invention to push us forward, rather we should change the way we look at disease and let the MRSA type bacterias get killed by regular bacteria. This means no antibiotics for a while.
James Miller
>not wanting to live for millions of years inb4 the i'll get bored argument, as if your brain would be the same condition it is now
>You are just a weak-minded slave to technology. That's like saying you're a slave to freedom or a slave to something that improves your life. You make no sense.
>i promise you this, if you come up with an alternative to antibiotics that is as good or better at combating bacteria than antibiotics you will literally earn millions. No I won't. They already exist but the entire industry is controlled by the government, especially in the USA. They have a monopoly you can't go against.
Nathan Cruz
Of course it is, you imbecile. It's mandatory. That's the whole point.
Jason Reed
Tedfags tend to say they are neither left nor right wing though; Kaczynski says that himself. And what is the "contradiction" in stating that environmental degradation is happening?
And you're a brainlet because you don't know what relatively basic words mean but you try to use them to seem smart. Making up shitty arguments based on imaginary statements about shit you clearly don't know about is just icing on the cake.
Austin Reed
You don't even understand what the argument is, idiot.
Levi Morris
>thats the point the logic of a petulant child that doesn't want to lose his goodies, and instead vows to change the very fabric of the body doesn't exactly inspire confidence. I promise, if you accept the transient nature of all Life you will be happier. Clinging like you and other do only leads to anxiety in the end.
Wyatt Diaz
>They already exist but the entire industry is controlled by the government, especially in the USA. They have a monopoly you can't go against. In that case that technological society isn't helping you much, since it'll clearly let you die for its own benefit.
Anthony Evans
>Tedfags tend to say they are neither left nor right wing though Is this a joke? He's shits all over leftists in his book. All tedcucks online are right wing eco primitists
>And what is the "contradiction" in stating that environmental degradation is happening? That wasn't where the contradiction is you disingenuous retard. The contradiction is a radical eco faggot pretending to be right wing when this has always classically been a left wing position.
>And you're a brainlet because you don't know what relatively basic words mean but you try to use them to seem smart. Sorry your IQ is too low to understand basic words.
Ryan Ward
those companies would earn so much fucking cash for an alternative to antibiotics. You're not making any sense. Accept it, no wonder technology will save us this time. Not from asteroids and not from killer bacteria.
Dominic Gonzalez
There is no argument in this post.
>the logic of a petulant child that doesn't want to lose his goodies top kek >STOP WANTING TO BREATHE AND EXIST YOU GREEDY CHILD What kind of retarded argument is this? You're greedy for wanting bare survival?
>and instead vows to change the very fabric of the body So what? Why do you treat the body as something sacred when it's just a meat puppet?
>I promise, if you accept the transient nature of all Life you will be happier. It only makes stupid people and insects happy. It makes actual humans upset.
Austin King
He also shits on conservatives, and a lot of Ted fans online are not right wing. I am not. The majority of them say they don't belong to either the right or left and you'd understand why if you had read anything he wrote.
And the "contradiction" you are bringing up is based on arbitrary bullshit that you made up instead of anything happening ITT, gotcha.
lol that you keep proving how dumb you are. Again, go back to the post you originally referenced, where is there anthropomorphization? You can't find any because there isn't any, moron.
Angel Phillips
>sex, socialising >even the lowest of the low posess these in society
>un-enlightened transhumanist nigger >is a cheerleader in the false right-left dichotomy i'm not surprised, you of all people are the most inundated in globalist rhetoric
Nolan Rogers
>it'll clearly let you die Are you honestly this stupid? What exactly do the state and it's interventionism have to do with technology? State interventionism has existed since the first states tens of thousands of years ago. Why are you conflating two different things?
Chase Anderson
If it wasn't for the industrial technological society you would have had a gf.
Xavier Brooks
>greenpilled I fucking wish. Say you think about human caused climate change or getting a more energy efficient car and you'll get spammed with duurrr bluepilled cuck. The sad truth is that every autist likes Ted because contrarianism and fuck society but they'll never practice what he preaches.
Jordan Green
>So what? Why do you treat the body as something sacred when it's just a meat puppet? it just doesn't seem very rational to me. Instead of doing the simple thing of looking inwards, you seek to change REALITY as it is now to address your fear of dying. That does seem like the logic of a child to me.
Parker Flores
>those companies would earn so much fucking cash for an alternative to antibiotics. They aren't allowed on the market due to the FDA and AMA you absolute brainlet.
Why do you think they banned simple things that work like fecal transplants?
>He also shits on conservatives, and a lot of Ted fans online are not right wing. I am not. The majority of them say they don't belong to either the right or left and you'd understand why if you had read anything he wrote. He mainly shits on left wingers and wanted traditionalism.
>where is there anthropomorphization I already pointed it out.
Gabriel Perry
meme related is me, except I'm totally fucking torn between left and right, and replace the words on the right with stone-age anarchy
On days when I feel good-looking and confident I trend to the left, and on days when I remember that women hate me I lean to the right (side of the image).
his point is that industrial society is taking away avenues of true relation and meaningful contact. It cheapens it, not just for loner middle class guys but for literally everyone.
Ayden Gray
>Instead of doing the simple thing of looking inwards Oh you mean like deluding yourself? I bet you're one of those faggots that "meditates".
>you seek to change REALITY as it is now to address your fear of dying. Pretty accurate, and there's nothing wrong with this.
>That does seem like the logic of a child to me. Because you're a child with terrible arguments. This is basically an ad hominem attack and nothing else.
Noah Rodriguez
No, you didn't, you made up some shitty strawman. Again, go back to that very specific point (here, I'll help you ) and point out where the "anthropomorphization" touched you.
And you clearly didn't read his manifesto, he also shit on conservatives and literally stated that his ideas went beyond the right/left wing dynamics and clearly explains why. The manifesto was written in simple, easy to understand language for brainlets such as yourself, give it a read.
Dylan Morales
>I'm enlightened because I want to die at age 30 of preventable disease OH NO NO NO NO NO
>>is a cheerleader in the false right-left dichotomy A large portion of the right left dichotomy is bullshit, but there are portions that aren't. Case in point this eco shit.
Logan Gutierrez
Sorry, i'm just struggling with your logic. For me, it does seem simpler to accept your inevitable demise than to try and claw your way towards some sort of uncertain future, all based on your own primal fears. It seems healthier that way.
Tyler Lopez
I pointed out that you brainlets anthropomorphize nature and the planet and subconsciously think it's a sin or something to damage mother earth. People like me on the other hand only care about the environment in the way it benefits humanity. If we have to burn the planet and move to the moons of Jupiter then so be it. Care to actually refute my point?
Here's a better question? Why don't you just kill yourself if you hate yourself so much?
Joshua Thompson
Convenience is destructive. Start looking for ways to make your life harder
Christian Price
Because practising what he preaches on your own it's literally just a waste of time, sure you might live a good life in the woods but you'd die with the regret of leaving the rest of humanity behind.
Joshua Martinez
Making up ad hominems to fight reasonable conclusions when people tell you to accept the inevitability of death--a bold strategy.
Too bad none of your shitty arguments will help you when you're on your deathbed.
Adrian Fisher
>it does seem simpler to accept your inevitable demise Of course it's simpler. What's even more simpler is to kill yourself right now. You wouldn't have to do anything else. Just kill yourself. Why don't you do this?
Just because something is simpler doesn't make it good.
>uncertain future Humans have massively progressed for the better so far. What reason would I have to think this trend would somehow stop?
Benjamin Cooper
there's been far less "mother Earth" and "climate change" handwringing in this thread than you desperately want to make it seem.
Ted's best points are how modern society is shaping our very psyche. Every transhumanist nigger ITT has been posting with desperation and dread oozing from every post.
Jeremiah James
Why didn’t he send a bigger bomb?
Christopher Sanchez
> If we have to burn the planet and move to the moons of Jupiter then so be it
Why even bother saving humanity if we have to be so selfish and negligent
Alexander Walker
>Making up ad hominems I had arguments with my ad hominems. You mainly just had ad hominems.
>reasonable conclusions How is it reasonable to want to suffer and die at age 30?
>when people tell you to accept the inevitability of death We accept the POSSIBILITY of death. This is pretty reasonable.
>Too bad none of your shitty arguments will help you when you're on your deathbed. Neither will yours.
Jonathan Richardson
And you still can't find the anthropomorphization! Probably because it isn't there and you're making up a bunch of bullshit to cover your own stupidity. And as that post literally stated, if you destroy the environment, it will destroy all of humanity, or at best, the vast majority (including you, because I need to point that out due to your low IQ).
As for the rest of your shitpost you are clear baiting to get attention or you are so hopelessly stupid that there's no point even explaining your own stupidity to you, it's beyond even your grasp.
Alexander Lee
case in point: just read your post over and over until you give up this dumb techno-crusade. Technolgy will not bring your dead mother back.
Jonathan Jenkins
>I had arguments with my ad hominems. >You mainly just had ad hominems. Another phrase you clearly don't understand the meaning of.
Luke Brown
he's right, but I'm too deep in the system. most of us are
Cameron Lewis
>Every transhumanist nigger ITT has been posting with desperation LOL We're laughing at you fucking retards. You literally want to work 16 hour days and die at age 30. You people are so below us it's hilarious.
>if we have to be so selfish HAHAHA What exactly is wrong with being selfing and caring about ourselves?
Is the planet going to be upset? ;(
What a dumb argument though, god damn. Selfish lol, we're being rude to the grass which has feelings.
Alexander Brooks
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Jayden Butler
>And you still can't find the anthropomorphization! It's in every post you make lol >if you destroy the environment There you go again thinking we're trying to destroy the environment or something.
Imagine actually being a disgusting self hating little worm.
>projecting
Levi Jones
This is true, but even to address a bit, it's almost totally impossible to get away from it at this point. Even Kaczynski couldn't quite get away from everything and that was back in the 70's, it's gotten much more difficult now.
Luis Murphy
A billion years? Dude, written history is what 6 thousand years? Aint nobody making it a billion years.
Alexander Hughes
also, you didn't respond to anything in my post
Also you haven't explained why you don't just kill yourself if you hate yourself and humanity this much?
Easton Watson
all you're doing is praying to your techno-gods to grant you everlasting Life. It's a lot like religion. Also disguising your fear as detachment is pretty obvious, just try harder next time, you'll kill those feelings in no time.
Matthew Edwards
>Also you haven't explained why you don't just kill yourself if you hate yourself and humanity this much? Literally no tedfag, even ITT, said he hated himself or humanity.
Ian Sullivan
And the earth will only be habitable for half of that. The five gorillion years meme only accounts for the lifespan of the sun.
Ian Gutierrez
I love humanity, I love my common man and the only parts of me that I hate is the parts given to me by modern society.
Take your fucking meds, and kill all the dissonance you obviously feel.
how the fuck are you going to practice it? how are you going to continue your bloodline and socialize as a caveman?
Tyler Cooper
>how are you going to continue your bloodline and socialize as a caveman? Cavemen reproduced and socialized.
Jacob Hernandez
>all you're doing is praying to your techno-gods Ahhh yes, we're the dogmatic ones, riiiiggghhtt.
We're basically saying human achievement is a good thing and the only way to minimize suffering is to create technology. This has been empirically true so far.
>It's a lot like religion. LOL So realizing that we could die and using technology instead of religion to attempt to prevent this is somehow religious? Why do you keep committing the naturalistic fallacy?
They really do though.
Owen Fisher
with cavewomen and cavemen. how many of those are around?
Owen Nelson
>Take your fucking meds, and kill all the dissonance you obviously feel. This is cute, you're projecting or something. I feel perfectly fine.
you're putting all your chips on someone, somewhere delivering you from pain and suffering through the MIRACLE of technology. Wishful thinking at its best.
Brandon Scott
It's scary that NPCs like this faggot are real.
Bentley Martinez
really? you don't sound fine, with all the denial, coping and clinging you exhibit.
Jacob Cruz
I actually like modern amenities. I also have had sex.
Mason Gutierrez
>No technology = never leave this planet and eventually die Abhorrently r*ddit post. Let me guess, you also have Facebook account and you're a fan of Science Fuck Yeah.
Jayden Nelson
LITERALLY Tedcuck arguments ITT:
-technology bad -we should be dying at age 30 and eating undomesticated grains -if you rub 2 sticks together to make fire you are bad -if you want to use your brain to prevent aging you are going against nature and therefore BAD!!! -if you want to change or modify your body you are GREEDY and MEAN!!! -everyone needs to accept they will die and be a nihilistic self hating piece of shit, it's only natural
I agree that 1 person escaping society isn't doing much, but small actions like buying only essentials, not using plastics and taking public transportation/getting a fuel efficient vehicle helps the planet, no matter how much you get called an ecofag.
Robert Foster
oh shit, he brought out the wojak pack it up boys
Bentley Ross
>if I keep repeating this false analogy I win the argument LOL
You're the ones literally advocating millions of people die. You have psychological problems. >clinging yeah dude, wanting to live and breathe oxygen is clinging and GREEDY This is why people laugh at you.
Ryder Flores
nah, it all needs to go. that green movement shit is not going to cut it, its just neoliberals trying to soothe their dissonance.
Anthony Edwards
>can't even greentext Lurk moar leftypol skinwalker
Easton Clark
>oh shit, he brought out the wojak Hit close to home didn't it?
I agree, and I already do that kind of stuff, it's a better way of living imo. A lot of people do for reasons other than the environment (though of course, that in itself is not a bad thing).
Daniel Miller
>calls me leftypol >repeats leftypol arguments
>neoliberals People that use this bullshit vague term are the ultimate brainlets.
Evan Powell
tedchads really made this one upset lmao
Sebastian Flores
it's grade schooler-tier trolling, at best.
Angel Peterson
>it's a better way of living imo. Throw away your computer. Nah, you wouldn't actually be logically consistent in your worldview, right
Wow my post really hit close to home lmao It was pretty accurate.
>continues to post without an argument or refutation LOL
It just keeps getting worse for tedcucks. They still won't tell us why they won't throw out their computers.
Kevin Richardson
>grasping for ANYTHING This isn't going to help you when you die at age 30 from preventable diseases. See the poorest shitholes of africa? That's you.
Daniel Morgan
>>continues to post without an argument or refutation As are you.
Said the pansy with the death phobia.
Luis Wood
Transhumanist chad here.
You poverty lovers have been great. Seeya.
Anthony Perry
holy shit you're legitimately blind, are you crying or something? see where you click you sperg
James Brooks
>Said the pansy with the death phobia. Said the pansy with the death philia. and no, we're not "afraid" to die, we just prefer to avoid it, like any sane person would
Aiden Sanders
I was legit replying to you. Do you get this upset when you get bullied.
Oliver Rogers
Stop getting upset when people point out that you're a newfag and just learn how to use the site, tard.
Hunter Perez
Lots of apparently healthy people still die young in first-world countries and it's no less morbid. Everyone else their age is enjoying life.
Adam Fisher
you didn't respond to the right person you absolute newfag, and can't greentext either. you don't belong here, go back
Gavin Jackson
>you're a newfag for using dashes to separate items in a list I used greentext all throughout this thread and you suddenly get butthurt over the one time I don't? wew
>Lots of apparently healthy people still die young in first-world countries and it's no less morbid. It's still pretty rare though. It used to be a lot more common before technology and modern medicine.
Logan Edwards
No sane person would rather have an immortality of suffering over a happy life and the acceptance of death. And hoping against all reality that death will be cured in your lifetime isn't sane, it's just delusional.
Grayson Martinez
umm he KILLED and RAPED people wtf is wrong with you guys
Jordan Nelson
>No sane person would rather have an immortality of suffering Why do you automatically assume it would be suffering? What if it were like you were 18-25 physically and mentally forever?
>a happy life and the acceptance of death How exactly is suffering, pain and dying early "happy"? How is watching your loved ones die "happy"?
>And hoping against all reality that death will be cured in your lifetime isn't sane, it's just delusional. Actively fighting against human technological progress due to some cult ideology is delusional. Again, we don't "REALLY SUPER DUPER HOPE!!" that aging will end in our lifetimes, we just think "it would be nice".
Ian Lopez
he raped millions
Jaxson Brooks
>Again, we don't "REALLY SUPER DUPER HOPE!!" that aging will end in our lifetimes, we just think "it would be nice" So defending the industrial technological system based on the idea of some unrealistic possibility being "nice" when it clearly won't happen in your lifetime makes sense?
As per the suffering bits it was based on this post >I'd trade the most enjoyable, happy life possible for an immortality of constant suffering. I'll repeat myself but everything is secondary in the face of death.
Dominic Phillips
Based "if man were meant to fly god would have given us wings" poster
Blake Cruz
>talks about truth as a value >spends his time here life is short, don't waste your energy here if you truly mean that
Anthony Baker
Such a weird time post 2001 where so many pop songs had all this imagery in it. What the fuck was that all about?
