Joker

read the script, it's not

To be fair, these Jokers are fairly different. But I get what you mean, I think he will be up on the same level as Heath. I don't think there is any beyond that, just a matter of preference

Giving the Joker an origin is probably the worst idea ever conceived.

>Burgers already scared of getting shot
lol

every batman/joker movie has to have
[x] batman's parents getting killed
[x] joker explaining how he got his scars

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He's pretty much always had one

>gamers rise up
>incel movie
>sjw propaganda
>onions capeshit
>cringe
>clownworld
>shooting in cinemas

not only you retards are ruining it but i fucking bet news articles will go "joker is a toxic masculinity fantasy for white males" or some shit like that, i just wanna watch a fucking movie man

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You should be bullet free if you go to an imax or dolby or rpx screening opening weekend. The shooters usually don’t wanna pay the surcharge.

>a Todd Phillips film

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I thought that was the very definition of incel

then you came to the wrong place, invective

Welcome to the post-post irony hellscape

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He had one in the Burton movies and the cartoon

>"joker is a toxic masculinity fantasy for white males"
Scripts been confirmed with the latest trailer as the shooting script too so
this movie is for white """males"""" from Yea Forums and reddit

Welcome to 2019. There is no "just" doing anything anymore Everything has to be multifaceted, and which side you sleep on at night determines which tribe you belong to.

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I guess the leaks were true. It's shit.

WRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

kek had a laugh

According to this definition Travis was a incel, yes.

I thought an incel was someone that don't even try to have a girlfriend.

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>why are people always responding to political shitflinging? dude please stop noticing, let me run over protesters in peace

Thats exactly what i wanna see

>kid, sitting backwards on his bus seat, chuckles at man making faces behind him
>WOULD YOU STOP BOTHERIN MAH KID?

Awful script. No one would say that.

The woman is trying to be polite and not say "You are creeping me out"

formerly kid, sitting backwards on his bus seat, sneedles at man making faces behind him

Is this a remake of King of Comedy?

I wounder if the Joker Baby will do an impression of this iteration

The movie ends with Phoenix's character gaining a ton of weight and looking much younger, and it turns out to be a Joker Baby origin story

Can't wait for based sneedfags to derail your entire threads. Why do you still talk about this garbage movie?

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Shut the fuck up you normie cocksucker

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Do people like this really exist?

travis never tried until that one point, he didn't even do it for sex, watch the film again, turn off your phone while you watch it, apply yourself user

You don't listen, do you? You just ask the same questions every week

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>zoomietryingtomeme.jpg

Jesus H Christ you fucking normal cattle and your insane and creepy infatuation with the incel boogeyman.

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News organizations already do that, they can go fuck themselves.

It's beyond annoying at this point, mainly because of this notion that if you don't hold politically correct opinions, you absolutely, 100% have to be a virgin. Not to mention them putting sex on such a high pedestal.

You alright, summer tourist?
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>that pic
faggot

people hate "incel" because it perfectly describes what they are. fuck /pol9k/

seething incel

You're right, but the opposite rings true as well. Until people stop telling me to dilate, I won't stop telling them to have sex. It's not a choice.

It absolutely is a choice.

Being the nig.. err.. bigger man and choosing to ignore the other's response has always been above me, so no.
I'll keep fighting this imaginary war and you will too, because we have nothing better to do.

This is gonna bomb hard because NPCs, but time given, it will be recognized as the kino it undoubtedly is.

You could always just leave us alone.

I'm getting really sick of it too. I think one of the reasons why they glamorize sex is because they're devoid of anything, they don't have character, strength, or a soul. They have to push sex because it's the feel good sin and it's all they have. We need to start calling them what they are, cumbrains.

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It'll at least be a financial success, the budget is tiny

Absolute horseshit. Even the worst joker ever filmed spent five minutes in a gatbage Guardians of the Galaxy ripoff and it still made bank. Joker has a quarter of Suicide Squad's budget and has a direction that already has people seriously talking about it and happy that it's not connected to Jared Leto.
It'll undoubtedly turn a profit.

Mark my words, the academy will finally recognize Phoenix for this role

>as the kino it undoubtedly is.
How the fuck do you know it is a good movie if it hasn't been even released?

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What's it like being a cyber nigger shitting up a white mans site?

Whoa, I can't remember the last time I thought someone was genuinely unpleasant, check yourself, love.

I trust Phoenix.

Leto's Joker would be considered classic if they made a short origin movie out of his scenes.

"muh wannabe deep capeshit" is what NPCs love best. They can't handle real emotions or sincerity so they flock to ironic "fun" crap like Army of Darkness, Pacific Rim and The Martian . Anything more than juvenile "fun" is too "2deep4u hipster shit". It's "fun" shit and superficially meaningful "dark" movies that get the most fedora attention.

They'll watch something by Joker for what they think is their intellectual main course and then wash it out with something like John Wick for desert. Before settling into a night of tweeting about Trump.

Pretty much.

I can't remember looking forward to a movie this much

I was briefly looking forward to the Mortal Engines movie because nostalgia but that died as soon as the first proper trailer came out

>I thought an incel was someone that don't even try to have a girlfriend.
No, those are volcels, incels are the ones who try to have sex and fail miserably.

That immediately jolted me out of it, too. If Phoenix's portrayal was genuinely creepy I could understand, but even thin he's a handsome man whom so far the trailer shows as being kind spirited and meek. Any parent would have simply smiled to see their kid laughing.

Then you haven't interacted with a lot of people

Makes me want to see it more. we need more incel shit.

He's a creepy incel and his momma probably thought he wants to touch her kid

Me too. Finally a film I'm truly hyped for in such a shitty year for films.

Normies absolutely LOVE the Joker, this movie will make bank

t. everything wrong with society

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why don't you try that out?

Reminder that it premieres on Venice this saturday
We shall soon see if conceited yurofags hate it or love it

>explaining a scene means you agree with it
Calm your autism bro

>The world were Joker makes more than nu wars 9

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>our kino
>trailer is out
>glimpse of romantic subplot
>Jojoker kisses a nigress
Explain pliz

Script leak?

She's a prostitute who feels sorry for Arthur, they're not dating
He springs that kiss on her and she rejects him. He later calls her a whore in front of her daughter.

He’s not going to top Heath fat fuck

It's the final straw before him going bananas

Did I say he would?
I said "let's find out"

It's just marketers and twitter commies pretending it's our movie

they had to have a black to get it made in sjwood
just be glad we get a decent movie

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He clearly has a black girlfriend, he's even kissing her in the trailer

This. how’s he an incel if he has a gf. Or if a girl gives him any type of attention

>the straw that broke the camel's back
Pottery

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>they had to have a black to get it made
They had to turn Thomas Wayne into a Trump stand in

>interracial romance
>actor weight loss
>mental illness
>class differences
>historic era
>legendary actor cameo

Oscar bait capeshit.

You can now tell this movie is going to be another letdown by the cinematography in the trailer alone.

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Eh, the setting is basically New York
People in NYC will get pissy for shit like that

>“you don’t listen do you?”
>“you just ask the same questions every week”
NPC BTFO
confirmed /ourmovie/

>but doctor, I'm the great clown pagliakino

so hes an agent of chaos?

how so

You know you can say nigger here, tranny, and no one will mind.

>historic era
ah yes, the gotham garbage strike of '81

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Doesn't look like that to me.

More like someone that's beaten up, bullied, and mentally ill, finally snaps, and makes a symbol.

There's no super powers or super abilities, and there's no real Gary Stu feelings here.

The script already leaked and was confirmed by the new trailer

She is a hooker that only gives him attention out of pity, which he mistakes as romantic interest. Right after he tries to kiss her she tells him to fuck off.

Never once in the script is it even implied that she is a hooker. She even loses her job at the bank because she wouldn't have sex with her boss.

this desu, it's like no one knows how to read or something

It looks absurdly kino, I’m hyped. Fuck the redditors trying to always bring everything back to their little culture war

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Drew Russel will always be the best joker

I may be mistaken about the hooker part then. But she's 100% not his girlfriend, has no romantic interest in Arthur and only pities him, and ultimately rejects him as his Joker nature begins to manifest more obviously.

>It looks absurdly kino, I’m hyped. Fuck the redditors trying to always bring everything back to their little culture war

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I hate the cumbrain meme, I'm from Cumbria so whenever I see the meme I think it's making fun of Cumbrians. ;_; we just farm and fish that's literally all we do.

Luan is better. Especially in relation to the Joker

mediafire.com/file/f68uiosyjwdz9dt/joker.pdf

>I may be mistaken about the hooker part then. But she's 100% not his girlfriend, has no romantic interest in Arthur and only pities him, and ultimately rejects him as his Joker nature begins to manifest more obviously.
You are right about all that stuff. Also, the kiss isn't in the script. So either that is a fantasy of his or he actually springs a kiss on her when he knocks on her door after killing the Wall Street guys/

Yeah I'm thinking he springs the kiss on her thinking it's his big moment to get the girl, only for her to immediately pull an "Arthur, no!"

There's something there that just doesn't sit right. Perhaps too saturated with loftyness that it doesn't look real or "down to earth". Too much bravado (muh opening city scene drone footage, muh slow motions), and not enough substance where the storytelling should be even within the confines/timeframe of a trailer. It just looks like a cheap budget indie movie trying too hard to be kino. The Dark Knight on the other hand remained grounded in an air of seriousness. It made you forget it was lofty as most great films do. This trailer just looks empty. Time will tell but I think most people sense it's bait.

Seeing this movie is going to get you put on a list.

Honestly to anybody who's really interested in seeing the movie, I would advise reigning in your curiosity and not reading the script leak

True
commies will get the rope when Trump wins again in 2020

you already hated the movie, you're just nitpicking to sound like you have a reason

I'm thinking that too. It is obvious from this trailer that Joaquin is playing Arthur with much more confidence then the character has in the script.

im gonna dress up as cia

This. It's 98% of the real film according to credible people and it's written very badly in terms of a professional Hollywood script and it might turn you off when it shouldn't.

if joaquin manages to save this film it will be a miracle

Your dislike is already a pre-conceived notion, you're just filling in the blanks at this point.

You could have saved time and just called it McDonalds Arthouse

LOL BASED

Where are you from? I feel like anyone trying that around here would have to be escorted away

He frequently has an origin story. The Nolan films were more of an exception than anything.

This isn't about my feelings towards the movie, it's about the trailer giving signs that the movie is going to be bad. So far the biggest signs have been that it relies on the use of cinematography than something called IDEAS, fuckface. You can already tell this movie is going to hammer on the exact same points over and over: an incel getting shit on. Incel Getting Shit On: the movie.

Wut

In that situation someone would reply with "pls explain". Win win situation.

Have you ever riden on public transportation in NYC?

>hasn't read Killing Joke

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I can see where you’re coming from. So far I’m half and half on this one. I enjoyed the script when I read it but after watching the trailer I don’t know if it can get pulled off correctly. I’m definitely going to watch it anyway just because the script leaks were 10/10 kino

based megachad

What exactly is that device Snyder is using anyways?

you clearly have never been around a black person irl

We really doing the scars? And the Wayne's being killed to?

How boring. But you know... 'Kino' and all that bullshit.

Fucking this. How did it take so long for someone to say this? Niggers are rude for no reason all the time

The scars are at the very end, but yes

A director's viewfinder or director's finder is a viewfinder used by film directors and cinematographers to set the framing of a motion picture or movie camera. There are three types of director's viewfinder.

>directed by Todd Phillips, known for The Hangover, Borat, Road Trip, Starsky & Hutch
>"its gonna be epin boys"
>"i can't wait this looks interesting"

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>the highest rated superhero film will be about a fucking clown that's the arch nemesis to a fucking bat
what a time to be alive

Well yeah, but wasn't the 'scars' thing only from Dark Knight Joker?

>The Hangover, Borat, Road Trip, Starsky & Hutch
all kino

not the dude you are asking but here in Spain people are so fucking open, too much if you ask me, it is normal to see old people patting little kids head thought they arent related, however once I was in the beach with my family like five years ago, I was a skinny full of acne edgy teen and a baby throw me sand at my foots I laughed a bit but immediately his young father grab him far from me
I will never forget the fear in his face, it made me realize that my destiny is to die alone

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Hahaha! It truly is a Clown World™!

>all fucking clowns
I wish I could fuck clowns.

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The Virgin Phillips versus Chad Nolan
>cryptojew

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you can't be too careful with the amount of pedos out there

It kind of varies between portrayals of Joker wether he has actual scars or just the makeup

If he's so sad, why didn't he just kill himself?

thats taxi driver

See, now look here. The people on this set look like they know exactly where the fuck they are: on the set of a kino. Compare that with the dilluted turd on-set shots of Joker

Holy shit, this looks fucking amazing. This looks like the best capeshit movie ever. Maybe HBO's Watchmen will at least match it, but this looks amazing. Right up there with Taxi Driver from the looks of it.

>incel-kino

Yeah, right. That's true, but only because the incel is the loneliest person in a hypo-hypergamic dating culture. This will appeal to lonely people of all looks and personalities. A perfect Joker movie, unruined by Batman or any sentimental attachment to justice.

I mean, I'm going to watch a camrip because fuck going to a shooter gallery to watch a Joker movie Aurora, but fuckity fuck fuck, does it look like a good movie.

The Hangover was directed incredibly well, similar with Road Trip.

The actual humor in them may have been mediocre, but the directing was great.

I know but I was 16-17 I think my little brother was there with me but when he looked me his facial expression completely changed
It hurts so much

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>Scene 1
>WE NOTICE TWO FADED OLD SCARS cut at the corners of his mouth. Almost forming a smile
he has scars throughout, not sure why they added that bit at the end ALONG WITH batman but whatever

GUYS I JUST REALIZED I'M ALIVE. I WANT TO BE HAPPY!

CLOWN!

CLOWN!

CLOWN!

SEND IN THE CLOWNS!

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Wow. So clever. Brilliant.

He lives in a paranoid world and he gives off unsettling vibes

>people thought they fixed the script
rip

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The world we're living in is extremely paranoid. Fucking Amber Alerts. Asian rape gangs. Get real.

>sean bean plays batman's dad
>he dies at the end
kino

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Then you agree with me HONK HONK

oy vey

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>szechuan
MORTY

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Which director looks like he means business?

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Rupert Pupkin really did become the villain huh

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It's literally in this same thread

Or this cuck right here? Phoenix looks like he's had it with his shit.

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CREEPY CLOWNS SCARE ME AHAHAHAHAHAHAAA@AAAAAAAAA

Phoenix loves Phillips. He like praised him in a recent Interview, more than he had to

>incelkino
You're commenting. Meanwhile, you didn't even watch the trailer.

Because Joaquin Pheonix

>marvelfags already seething

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user, get tested for autism

>I am not crazy
*Crosses out NOT
>I am crazy
*Dramatic zoom in on his face as a VERY creepy grin slowly grows on his face
*Cut to black
*Joker laughs
*Title appears on black screen with VERY loud BWAHHH soud effect
*Fin

This is easy

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you just know this movie is going to cuck everyone's expectations

I know what you mean.

dialate

Sorry for going off-topic but is the whole dilate thing just a joke/meme or do post-op trannies really have to dilate their vagina? Because that sounds scary as shit.

>It's really bad
>"IT'S KINO! NORMIES JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND IT!"
>It's really good
>"FUCK THIS CORPORATE SHILL!"

We are all clowns.

They really do have to do it

kino as fuck in a new level

everyone here is like this, you are just being honest

Turn around right now, don't read more stuff about this topic or your will experience how deep the feeling of disgust can go.

>buys a ticket
>stays home, watches a cam copy.

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MOM'S

WHEN THERE ARE CLOUDS IN THE SKY
YOU'LL GET BY

god I hope Joaquin plows some thicc nigrette ass so we don't have to deal with 5 years of incel larping, and this is coming from a virgin.

sorry but she friendzones him hard

Doesn't he gas her too? IIRC, when he's walking down the hallways of the apartment, he knocks on her door and leaves a flower, and it has poison in it, which kills her.

A play on the Batgirl scene on The Killing Joke, sorta.

If he gets to have sex then why is he so mad and crazy?

I think so, but it also seems the script is not as 1-to-1 as people originally thought so who knows
probably though, considering he also kills his own mother

You've lived a perfect and happy and sheltered existence if you don't think that scene is realistic.

GONNA

but travis wasn't defined by not getting pussy he was more defined by the city around him. i wouldn't call him an incel especially with how charming he was when he actually got a date.

Came here to say this. Wow pathetic. You know it wont even be as good.

wow, what a cold-hearted bitch

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YOUR MOTHER IS A WHORE GIGI

Based Pixiposter

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de niro is going to DIE though.

>make a self-deprecating joke
>person intones like you didn't think of the self-deprecating angle and they just came up with it
>people laugh and think you're stupid and the other person is witty

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im gonna do it and there's nothing you can do to stop me

ALL CAPS MEANS DRAMA! Who wrote these non-dialogue bits? It's a bit of an unwelcome window into the mind of the writer -- seems pretty immature and tryhard

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It is. Like the Chernobyl miniseries, a complete retard has managed to make kino.

>implying women wouldn't fuck him

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reminder that all the retards freaking out about the script leaks have never read a script before and don't know how they are written and how they sound dumb when they have to be descriptive of the emotions in a scene

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have sex

its got joakino phoenix and it seems to be all about gangweeders rising up etc, looks good desu.

I guess Yea Forums knows more about screenplay writing than Oscar winner writer Scott Silver

FREAK

>Baldcel

It's your fault for making them think you're stupid in the first place user. It wasn't a trap. It's that you've literally conditioned everyone to think you're retarded for so long that your bully's mind just naturally went to "allow me to point out how stupid this retard is" instead of stopping to think if there might be more to it, as-in a multi-layered self-deprecating joke.

This is why most patricians disapprove of self-deprecating humor. Few of us are Donald Trump and are capable of weaponizing our own retardation against our enemies. It's safer to keep your guard up and let the world know how you expect to be treated.

there's descriptive, then there's "I just listened to Linkin Park for the first time"
>you're not allowed to laugh at funny-looking writing because the Joker flick is serious big boy business
get fucked

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You need to begin assaulting people so they are afraid of you. No-one makes fun of someone they are afraid of.

That's a lot of projection, do you have something to tell us?

Sure. I've been that guy. I've been the "clown" who the wiseguy will cut no slack to, to the point where you can't even "laugh with them" through self-deprecating humor because he decided 30-seconds after meeting you that you were a retard and never bothered to find out if there was any more to you than just joke fodder to make himself look better.

You'll have a much easier time in life if you let people know right away that you "get it", you have self-awareness, and this is how you expect to be treated.

What a sheltered existence you must have lived.

Not particularly, mein fuhrer. Just a high-functioning retard that had to learn the hard way.

I want his hair

It's literally just the King of Comedy but just a lot more melodramatic and joaquin overacting. what the fuck

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They really do and you should look into this.

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shut up you whore

Looks like 'Joe Quin' has some jokin' to do come October. Rite guise?

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I wonder how much of a boost to your self-esteem you would get from having a girl have that kind of reaction from you.

Why are all the women black?

What if two incels choose the same theater that night? The odds are quite high.

I live in Columbus. People do not freak out if, on a public bus, your kid turns around to look at someone, and that someone makes a funny face to make your kid laugh.
You're a shut-in faggot whose experience of the world is what you watch on buzzfeed. People can be nasty but in that situation, a mom wouldn't snap at a dude for simply responding with a silly face to an inquisitive kid.

One who is involuntarily celibate is an incel. No more, no less.

Literally kys you FUCKING retard. Wow.

Go on a public bus and start playing peek-a-boo with a random stranger's kid
Report back with your findings

Gotham isn't Columbus dude

1st trailer was easily the best trailer this year. The 2nd one confirms for me that it'll never live up to that trailer and will be edgy as fuck.

Did you guys bought your vest already?

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>wow that’s literally me: the movie
Cringe

GAMERS RISE UP

is the gangweed movie????????????

pic related is you

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Are they gonna make an actual poster or just shots from the movie?

he kissed a nigger thats not promising

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I don't see Joker kidnapping De Niro so how is it just the King of Comedy?

This movie looks like soulless garbage. Make a joker movie ffs, not a movie that people think a joker movie should be.

Letos version is still the best. WB didnt have the balls to go full DC

Does anyone else believe that this joker is an impersonater?

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>Letos
does jack nicholson go by this?

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A normal deck of cards has two jokers so probably. Might be cool to see Pheonix kill Leto or something

is this loss?

>A normal deck of cards has two jokers
deep

How many people are going to get thrown out of the theater for saying the word?

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Either way I think it will be interesting. Honestly looks great.

Blade Runner 2049 and Nightcrawler are both pure incelkino

what the fuck do they not know about the nazi clown meme? Do they just not do any market research at all?Do they not even have shills on Twitter and social media scouting out subcultures of white male zoomer gamers?

Moore already did it 30 years ago you zoom zoom

That was actually funny

They're fully aware of it. I'll let you figure out what that means for yourself.

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>When Dior is selling you a perfume, or Calvin Klein an aftershave, they are saying "If you buy this product, you'll be sexually attractive." Now, pimping is illegal and societally unacceptable (rightfully so), so capitalists can't sell *sex itself*. BUT, they can say "our product will aid you in getting it, and look at the models in our ads - you want to be like these models. They have status." Capitalism has essentially commodified sex in this way. They can't directly sell sexual intercourse... .but they can try to act as the middle man between you and getting laid. They've taken this model of creating a relationship between a product and status, and they've made sex the product.

>Here's where the tragic Incel comes in. The Incel, fundamentally, is self-hating. They have grown up in a capitalist environment where they have spent their adolescent years being *blasted* with the messaging that sex, and having it, is equivalent to status. Now, what happens when these lads can't, for whatever reason, have sex? Maybe they're socially awkward or don't know how to talk to people they want to make a move on. They begin to think, as a result of capitalism, that they are low status.

>Capitalism has screamed at them that having sex (especially as a man) is directly linked with high status - it makes you a "player", a "shagger". So these boys start to despise themselves for not having had sex. So they start to beg the question "WHY?!". Desperately, they turn to phrenology - the study of skulls - and conclude that it must be the fact they might not have a prominent chin that they can't get it in. OR (and this is where it becomes dangerous to others) they turn to women. And they say "women are the problem." They say that is the fault of feminism for "instilling" women with the ideas of bodily autonomy that they can't get laid, and that women as de facto 'providers' of sex are the reason they haven't had sex.

>Now this tends to go one of two ways at this point: Either it degrades into further self-hating and depression, at which point many incels become suicidal because they have such low self-worth...or it descends into violence, as it did with Elliot Roger. If you want to see further manifestations of how this relationship between sex and status has been created, I remember people using the word 'virgin' as an insult in my school. Probably many of you heard similar things.

>On the other hand, "player" was a compliment. THIS RELATIONSHIP IS NOT APPLIED EQUALLY. Women are impacted inversely. Women are constantly bombarded with highly contradictory messaging by a capitalist patriarchal society - that they should go to great lengths to be sexually attractive...but have as little sex as possible. Or more specifically, have as few partners as possible. Men, on the other hand, are encouraged to have as many sexual partners as they can. Multiple sexual partners makes men a "player" - it makes women a "slut".

>The problem with incels is not that they haven't had sex; it's that they're being told that it's a *problem* that they haven't had sex. Incels, and the suffering they *do* go through, is therefore inflicted on them by a capitalist culture. I would go as far as to say that incels, and the hatred they direct towards themselves, are actually a cause feminists should take up. NOW, that does *not* excuse the mysoginistic opinions these boys hold. Not at all. However, they *are* suffering mentally and they're hurting and they're directing the anger at themselves outwards, and they're right to - they're directing it at the wrong targets.

>scene with joker and his black gf
>Black: ily so much jackr
>Jocker: shut up nigger
>BANG

>If you're an incel and you're reading this - it's OK that you haven't had sex, but let me get one thing clear; you're not owed sex. Everyone has bodily autonomy and the right to do with their bodies what they want. If a woman doesn't want to have sex with you, that's the end of the matter. Full stop. And women are not "providers" of sex. Consensual sex is not a provider-provided relationship. But you need to know that you're not worth any less because you haven't had sex. For some people it just happens later in life, for whatever reason.>You've been told your entire life that it's the case that you're worth more if you have lots of sex (especially as a man)... and worth less if you don't...but it's not true. It's just companies trying to sell you shit.>These lads feel lonely, they feel rejected and they feel like they're worthless because of it. They've conceptualised the intimacy and acceptance they crave into sexual intercourse... ..but even if these lads all lost their virginities tomorrow, the problem wouldn't go away because they're still being told day-in-day-out that if they're not having as much sex as is humanly possible then they're worth less.>It's not sex incels need. They need to see both that women don't owe them sex, and that it's capitalism that is making them fucking hate themselves for being virginal. Much love to anyone who is a virgin and feels like they're worth less because of what capitalism has screamed at them day-in-day-out. You're valid. It's OK. You're not worth less.

>let me get one thing clear; you're not owed sex.
lol, false. rise up gamers

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no we don't retard it's bad enough people know about us now we don't need anymore people know about us because they are going to star locking us up soon you fuckwit

why do they keep pushing this one staircase dance scene, is it going to be significant somehow?

Replace capitalism with society and this is 100% correct

He kills her.

is a black gf the real scape from incelness?

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>no we don't retard it's bad enough people know about us now
true. there were only a handful of us chads bulling on r9k. its not even fun to troll anymore. everyone's posing so the chances of a real suicide happening from your chat is very low

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Christ, he’s fucking terrifying.

>depressed
>lonely
>aging mother
>ebony waifu oneitis
Holy shit IS THIS ABOUT ME????

Mouse shills on suicide watch

This movie looks fucking great

>he didn't get the point of killing joke

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Is that you Nowicki?

Anybody unironically scared to watch this in theaters? I honestly think the chances of a shooting happening during this film are high. Every theater should have armed guards just for this film in case. You know some nerdy 15 year old in some shitty backwater town is watching this and saying this is me.

why would Chad have such a nervous, spastic stride?

Yes but I'm in Toronto so the chances of getting shot up are lower than in the US

> Toronto
me too wanna have sex?

Depends, are you a trap

Fuck off back to /LGBT/ faggot

>a nervous, spastic stride?
its a form of never ending microdabing. youll never understand

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Why would anybody like to be recognized as an incel?? Wtf is wrong with you?

I'm cute but athletic. I'll prolly be topping you.

More like boomers using discord as intended.

thanks, i'll apply this to the theory im reading

It's a clearly victory dance you ungrateful autist whiner. He be steezin on that virgin. STFU and learn to appreciate.

wtf I love capeshit now

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omfg I just realized i'm a complete Chad.

That's what I feel too. Even in my city, public trans means you stfu and mind yourself. The ones who stand out are the ones who you wouldn't like your children to interact with.

Within a large city, interpersonal interactions are dictated by how mich you know someone. Anyone else is a potential aggressor (by which I mean will maybe rape you or do harm to you). So, indifference/avoidance.

The director is a tarded no-talent. Nothing to see here.

Only being able to pull black chicks is worse than inceldom

It's going to be really difficult to go watch this at the movie theater alone. Just imagine the face of ticket clerk when I say
>One for Joker, please

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Anyone else catch this reference? If you've seen Modern Times, you know that it's about a man who is driven insane by society. Subtle kino parallels.

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go to the late viewing. It's just gonna be awkward lonesome white dudes in hoody's. You'll know each other by how you look.

Had potential. Needed a tv series.

Plenty to see here.

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>Low T manlet thinks that it's DC movies that are for incels
GO GET EM AVENGERS! THROUGH THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP AND FEMINISM YOU'LL GET EM!

Dilate

have you ever been outside/dealt with minorities you dense autist?

>implying
SNEEDposters will be a thing of the past pretty soon, we're going to be hitting TDKR plane scene tier memes

From Chicongo and 100% would tell that dude to fuck off. Especially if I were black, they don't trust us as it is.

>yeah they might be thematically identical, have very similar story beats, tone, cast and even share the same lines
>but they don't share the exact same plot so they are totally different!

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>they don't share the same plot so it's not a rip off
yeah pretty much

To tell you the truth the two opening drone shots accompanied by the "boom" sound also put me off, but it seems like a strong performance so I'm going to give it a shot.

>something ceases to be a rip off just because the screenplay slightly changes aspects of the plot

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That’s what makes it an homage.

there's homage, then there's copying everything another movie did and pretending what you're doing is original.

This looks fucked. I'm worried about people getting the wrong message from it, and think this is some glorification of turning to violence

If someone smiles at you today, smile back and tell them to have a nice day. If they ridicule you back, Just walk away, but keep your smile for yourself.

Literally going to be carried by Phoenix. The plot seems generic as fuck but his performance alone will make it worth watching.

>hurr it's liek the taxi driver
Fucking zoomers

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Because black women are the only kind of females that can relate to incels. Nobody really wants either of them.

I can see it being that way, since more and more people are becoming isolated and neglected due to poor upbringings leading to depression

What I really want to see is white knight kino, they too infect all of society cancerously (more so in some cases). It can be done pretty easily too with how PC and mangina everything is getting

It’s clearly bait from an obsessed PC redditor who stumble upon here and “can’t even” with all the horrible “mysognist/racist/{insert soi word of the year}