What???

What???

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>There are very fine people on both sides

What did George actually mean by this?

Vader kills Palpatine

hero doesnt really mean good guy, just a great man

But great is better than good.

Why are zoomers so fucking dumb these days?

one side's terrorist is the other's freedom fighter

Obi-Wan is on the light side, Anakin on the dark side.

>[Dooku's] a political idealist
What?

It was a different time

It’s a Civil War. Citizens of the Confederacy of Independent Systens thought that the Droid Army and Dooku were protecting them from the corruption and tyranny of The Republic. Kinda like how Lee was a hero to the South.

That one roger droid who saved his fellow roger droid was a hero.

>people still take this incomplete quote out of context
Fake news.

>This

He used to be

Incels and racists thinks Trump is a hero

Is there an instance in the EU where some of the common people are pro-Empire?

>Kinda like how Lee was a hero to the South
So he reluctantly fought for the Seperatists because his home planet joined them?

He literally only wrote what 8year olds thought sounded cool. Episode III was one big toy commercial.

sexist AND antisemitic thread

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they've been encouraged to play dumb to make half ass points that force people to explain things to them so that they can attack or pick apart an argument while not actually engaging it.

just like my video game

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Reminder that Arthas literally did nothing wrong

There are two sides to every argument OP.

Republic has done good but ultimately was pretty fucked up underneath.

CIS is bad but as bussiness men and people with a will to get out of the republic they can be viewed as smart and good.

True, they left out the overly-defensive autistic yelling that immediately followed

WAIT WHAT?? Did Lucas just sympathize with NAZIS? AND WHITE SUPREMACY?

Having heroes on both sides doesn't mean they're heroes for both sides.

These are the retards that say nuwars is better than the prequels

Great is different than good.

I SAW THAT ON RED LETTER MEDIA TOO!

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They actually didn't, they talked a bit about Trump comparing the 'alt-right' to the 'alt-left'. Then they realized that if they keep talking about it then the alt-left will likely become an actual term like the alt-right boogeyman, so they shut it down and focused solely on the "very fine people" phrase

Would Rommel have fought for the empire?

Different is greater than better.

Context matters, neither of us is wrong. Read a book.

>War!

I don't even know what the problem is here. The seperatists weren't evil. It's the point of the movie.

I always thought that it was some weird way to foreshadow Anakin's turn to the dark side or something

Isn't that supposed to be the point of partisan politics irl too?

Woah. Just like WW2.

8 year olds don't know what republics or separatists are.

I know, but they make it so obvious that it really makes me question their intelligence.

Some, I assume, are good people

Grievance was a hero for the Separatists even though it seemed like they all hated him and all he did was yell at them.

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Think of it like an old news real. That's the effect it's going for.

you realise star wars is inspired by cheesy serials from the 30s, right?

If George Lucas said all the things you said he said, in the way you said he said them, that's small potatoes compared to Kathleen Kennedy calling half of The Last Jedi critics nazis

Evil is everywhere. There are heroes on both sides. Sith Lord Count Dooku under attacks by the ruthless War! The rublic is crumbling

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No no no no no

YOU WILL DIE

maybe that should have been shown in the fucking movie, no? dooku is a le ebil sith lord we've just met while any context or motivation of the CIS is never given.

Can't fucking believe people take anything in Star Wars seriously. It's for CHILDREN.A

He means anti-SJWs are jut as bad as SJWs

Depending on your point of view, different people are heroes.
Separatists who disagree with paying tax to an arrogant government that wastes funds on jedi probably view Dooku as a rogue hero fighting back against authoritarianism

There is plenty

>War! The Republic is crumbling under attacks by the ruthless Sith Lord, Count Dooku. There are heroes on both sides. Evil is everywhere.
In a stunning move, the fiendish droid leader, General Grievous, has swept into the Republic capital and kidnapped Chancellor Palpatine, leader of the Galactic Senate.
As the Separatist Droid Army attempts to flee the besieged capital with their valuable hostage, two Jedi Knights lead a desperate mission to rescue the captive Chancellor....

General Grievous?

ONCE MORE THE SITH WILL RULE THE GALAXY AND WE SHALL HAVE PEACE

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When an omniscient narrator says there are heroes on both sides, they are taking the viewpoint that there is no objectively 'right' course of action. Especially when we know both sides are being manipulated by Sheev.
If it was the leader of the republic saying that however, we would/should agree that that leader is a fucking idiot and probably a traitor

Actually sounds like a good plan. Why was everybody trying to kill him again?

>Hero: n. "A person admired for courage"
Hero doesn't necessarily mean good guy user

LOL please don't be serious

point me to one

But it's a civil war.

I did.

link?

And? The separatists are enemies of the state. Literally by definition. They're waging a war on the state.
Even if they were just breaking the law with guerrilla acts of violence, they would still be enemies of the state by threatening the peace and inciting fear

Trade prospered under the Trade Federation.

Under the Empire there was a lot of smuggling.

Lucas dropped a lot of truth bombs and let the cat out of the bag on a lot of how the world works and how fucked it is through the prequels.
Same thing happened in the matrix sequels as a matter of fact.
The idea of the hero is little more then marketing user.
The chosen hero is litterally just someone who destroys it all and starts everything from scratch.

was utapu meant to be like Pakistan?

It's this, only Lucas failed to show it in the movie.
In the old EU, he fought for the Seps because they said they'd bring his home planet out of crippling debt and starvation, so yeah. But that's the old EU, which as we all know is not canon.