So why were they OK with just killing random people who were stuck in the Matrix, which also kills them in real life?

So why were they OK with just killing random people who were stuck in the Matrix, which also kills them in real life?

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A) they could become agents at any time
B) it was for the greater good: kill a few dozen so that you rescue billions

Do you think natural born humans in Zion see redpills as second class citizens trying to steal their jobs?

Were there really billions in the matrix? I always thought like 10-25 million.

Because it was either them or us.

It only killed them in the Bigger Matrix. They didn't actually exist in the first place.

Based, i know someone else who killed a few to save billions after taking the redpill.

7 to 8 max

who

That scene still kicks ass

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200000 at the most, and mostly to disease

Smith mentions billions of people in the first movie

Does he? I feel like other people are right. It's a few million.

Herr Hitler

brenton tarrant

On earth before shit went down, perhaps.

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Anders Brevik

life in prison, great replacement still on track

see above

Bernie Sanders

>be neonazi
>idolizes concept developed by two trannies which was code for hormone replacement pills

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Wasn't they (guards and others helping Smith & co) programs, not real humans connected to matrix?

They weren't trannies, just degenerates at the time. They became trannies later since they didn't control their desires.

we're in the Theodore Herzl stage right now.

because it's acceptable collateral when the fate of humanity is in the balance. It's the same reasoning that applies when the US bomb a wedding to kill 2 terrorists, only in the Matrix it's justfied

once a tranny always a tranny. The red pill was always a metaphor for the pink pill.

Yeah white nationalism and meritocracy of ideas go together pretty well.

the greater good

>problem with killing normies
Umm, why would they even care?

>retroactively attaching meaning to a concept they didn't even come up with

you can't keep billions alive without the sun

what does that mean

Still catching them killers, are we?

State of Israel

what about it

If you will it, it is no dream

why do neo-nazis idolise jews and quote a movie directed by jews that makes fun of christians?
supreme cuckoldry

Which neo-nazis?

it's only one killer actually

democrats/ soros cucks

The original idea for the reason why humans were enslaved by the machines wasn't to use them as batteries, the concept doesn't even make sense considering energy conservation laws. All of the human brains were actually used as paralell processors and storage, so essentialy the matrix ran on top of human brains, making the relationship between human and machine even more symbiotic while also relating to Carlos Castaneda's concept of archons or "whales", where the human mind is explained as a foreign alien-like installation on humanity, that is, all of the internal dialogue a human has and also the "reality filter" is actually a foreign entity harvesting human energy that is 'installed' on all of humanity.

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nazis werent christians
hitler was jewish
supreme cuckoldry

>literal jewish propaganda
supreme cope

Castaneda was a pothead

because if they didn't kill them they would just turn into agents

redpilll/bluepill predates the matrix

>What is collateral damage
Retard moralfag

No, they're regular humans working as cops and whatnot. Morpheus covers that in the scene with the woman in the red dress.

How does reproduction work in matrix? If two people fuck in the matrix, does the machines roll a dice to determine if a pregnancy should happen and then make the test tube baby for them?

just like isis

Yeah hitler was a gay transexual cross-dressing jew! What a progressive hero!

Well he was a national SOCIALIST so it makes sense.

That was the whole point of the Agent Simulation

>“The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

Basically this is the Wachowskis speaking to the audience about "instutionalized opression" and that we should oppose it even if it means killing people to achieve because "they're a part of it". You might notice that this line of thinking has gotten more popular in recent years within left-leaning circles wanting violence to stop the "wrong kind of violence"

We can guess thats how it works?

they specially say that anyone they havent unplugged is potentially an agent brainlet OP

Underrated

Castaneda was a bullshit artist, there is nothing foriegn about the mind to humanity, it is the part of us that is shaped in God's image. Without it we are just another animal.

These people are nazis?

Everyone is a nazi

Roberta Paulson

>it is the part of us that is shaped in God's image

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Didn't Morpheus explain that by saying they were part of the system and if they weren't ready to leave the system they would die to defend it? Were you listening to me or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?

yeah where did you get that thought? "your" mind? LOL

Idris Elba

They were threatening castration! Are we splitting hairs here?

They're probably seen as heroes. They're the only ones who can go back into the matrix and try to stop the cycle

>just let them shoot at us bro

Credit to that 50+ year old security guard who not only managed to leap six feet, from seated position, through a hail of bullets to get behind cover while all the others just got gunned down without reacting, but was only a split second from shooting Trinity as she walked through too.

aidan gillen

Yes, that's the ideology of the film. It's the conspiracy theorist's view of the world, taken literally.

>mind tells him Castaneda was bullshitting about foreign mind installation
>same mind agrees with itself
>muh gods image
wakie wakie normie

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Yes, it was reasonable.

>You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it

>BRO JUST GET UNPLUGGED LMAO AND COME LIVE IN THE SEWERS CROWDED WITH THOUSANDS OF NIGGERS WHILE EATING PASTE AND FIGHTING MONSTEROUS MURDERING MACHINES FOREVER LMAO
>what? what the fuck NO. If this actually is a simulation I prefer to stay in it being a baker with a loving wife and 2 lovely children than live in the sewers with a hobo's hygiene while fighting robots..sorry m8
>THIS FUCKING FAGGOT IS SO DEPENDENT AND INURED ON LIVING HAPPILY THAT WONT JOIN US IN THE TOILET WHILE WE, LIKE ANTS, TRY TO TAKE DOWN A LITERAL GIANT
>FUCKING KILL HIM NEO!!! HE'S THE ENEMY!!!!

in a realistic scenario, the people who unplugged people from the matrix (like morpheus) while being super cryptic and without telling them EXACTLY what to expect when they "wake up", would be fucking SLAUGHTERED by the 3d guy they unplugged

Dan "the man" Schneider.

I’m sure the machines have a system set up that takes sperm from the male to the female

fucking retard

Now don't you feel like a faggot. This probably took 8 seconds to google.

That's you. The guy who can't do 8 seconds of effort.

This. This is why i hate speed watchers who hated the sequels. There's 6 billion people in the matrix. It took the Entire Crew of the Nebuchadnezzar weeks to enable Neo to function. Remember Neo had never used his muscles so he was as weak as a baby. Times that by six billion and then you begin to realize how Stupid Morpheus was.

Everyone's gripe was based on what Morpheus says the one would do up to and including freeing EVERYONE from the Matrix. Obviously everything the Morpheus knows the Oracle taught him but here's the thing, the Oracle is notorious for telling you what you need to hear.

He's quite right though. Six billion people who needs to be medically looked after and fed. Imagine the logistical nightmare that would be.

The fucking machinations that went into that scene. The whole lobby walls getting decimated was done practically and had to be redone multiple times.

If it were true it was a few millions, then that would mean most people around us are programs and the Matrix never mentioned that 99% of the people around you are NPCs. iirc the Matrix is pretty much entirely real people.

What I meant was that if Morpheus ,and every other Morpheus trying to unplug people from the matrix, told the truth about what awaits them once unplugged, no one would've fucking unplugged.

The way Morpheus handles it, all cryptic and shit, would've had him killed by the first people he actually managed to unplug. Just imagine a realistic scenario

>you need to come with me Neo...see...the TRUTH
>ok, but what is the truth?
>you need to SEE it Neo..
>ok...can you just give me the gist of it?
>NO NEO...you need to SEE it....let me lift that veil up from your eyes...you always felt that something's not right...and you were right...now, let me show you the REAL reality...
>ok m8 but couldnt you just spare a couple of details or anything? we're literally talking about turning my life upside down here
>I told you Neo...you need to SEE.............to believe
>alright fuck it, lets do this
>*wakes up in the middle of post-apocalyptic total war between humans living crammed like rats in the sewers while trying to fight mechanical behemoths*
>*immediately kills Morpheus for not giving even the slightest hint of what he'd get if he left the matrix*

Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

i think its time to stop psychoanalyzing a movie made by two trannies

"if you're not one of us you're one of them"
Did you watch the film?

Who the fuck cares about (literal) NPCs?

>BRO JUST GET UNPLUGGED LMAO
What if Neo was replaced by Chad and he did this and it worked?

Me

>I told you Neo...you need to SEE.............to believe
>bruh you sound like a JIDF shill right now

Was thinking of saying this.

the greater good

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Because it was a pre-9/11 movie and we were still in the “terrorists are just freedom fighters” mindset.

Killing the Wachowskis would have made them martyrs so they had to be destroyed but left alive.

How do people give birth in the matrix? Are the kids artificial? Are the babies assigned artificial parents? Do the machines just give home brewed children to expecting couples? Do the machines artificially inseminate the mother with the father's sperm and send the baby to its own pod once its born? Do they add more pods when the population of the earth rises in the matrix or do they regulate the population manually?

You can if they're encased in goo, in essentially suspended animation, being intubated the entire time and only afforded the barest of resources.

Why not? I've made it to 35 that way.

True

It's really easy to discredit people and ideas like this. It's like the fake memes they make about Hitler, or when they give Alex Jones truth but he says it in a retarded way to make people who believe the same thing look bad. They do this with black role models a lot, like Michael Jackson and Bill Cosby.

Not every person in the Matrix is someone in a pod, right? That would be way too much. Some of them have to be artificial.

Wait, so you mean there would be npc, just following the code?

are they human dead because of a malfunction of a section of pods who were rewritten as AI or any stuff like that or are they born npc ?

and how do you know if you are real?
if there is no spoon,
maybe there is no steve.

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>Zion
>muh billions

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