Anakin: I want to become so powerful that I can stop my mother from dying

No one, in any of the movies, is as bad of an actor as Hayden is. God he was so fucking cringey.

I dunno if they'd have been genuine kino, but they'd certainly have been a lot fucking better. Every piece of media surrounding the prequels shows a fuckload more depth and fantastic writing that the movies just couldn't seem to fucking get- but that's because, again, there was actual unrefined ideas there.

Meanwhile, the sequels get nothing. The books are trash, the TV shows are garbage, the spin-off movies are soulless shit, etc. There's fucking nothing to latch onto with the sequels.

>shitty dialogue and generic boring camera work
Come on, man. Literally, all of the films have shitty dialogue, and would you rather have the ADHD handheld camerawork that Disney has been shitting out?

I think it is fair to say the prequels are great for the world building and ideas they added to the star wars franchise. Right now I'm way more into the clone wars era stuff than the empire era, when it comes to video games, comics, books, etc. I still like star wars EU stuff per phantom menace but I really started to get into it by early 2000s.

Fuck off, Nu-wars shill.

No. Why should I? It's not my fault that his prequels were bad directed, he's the one who tried to fuck with the jews, and they fucked him back.
Not to mention the last "fuck you" that George gave its fans, which was plant a ticking bomb inside lucasfilm by making Kennedy the CEO before selling it to Disney. George knew that she would completely ruin the new movies and would run the series to the ground, fucking over Disney AND pissing off the fans he hated so much.
That hurt real bad, user. I loved star wars.

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Kylo is unironically the best villain in SW history
>Emperor was just a God-mode evil robot Gary Stu with the best luck and never struggled in anything until he died. Literally spent 3 movies dropping hint after hint to everyone from Obi Wan to Padme to Yoda to Anakin to Mace that he was the Sith Lord and literally no one picked up on it. Seriously, did no one pause for a second and think about why does the situation get more and more dire for the Jedi the more Palpatine becomes politically powerful???
>Darth Vader was a cuck and a glorified bodyguard to a Sith more powerful than him, and we are expected to forgive him for massacring millions because he saved his wife's son from death
>Snoke had potential but was JUSTed in TLJ
>General Grievous was silly
>Dooku was meh-tier, the most mild vilain to ever exist in anything
>Darth Maul was same as Vader, only pointless and inconsequential

Kylo is real and is flesh and blood, failures and triumphs,power and pain and raw emotions. People says he always loses, but he literally killed Snoke with one move and fought much better than Rey against the guards,and has owned everyone hes met in battle, his only weakness is fighting Rey because he has a soft spot for her, and he wouldnt hurt his literal waifu. He escaped Luke while Luke was arguably at the peak of his powers. IX has Kylo in a position to finally realize his full power and realize his full potential. He is literally the only new character worth caring about, and Episode IX may very well be the movie he overtakes Luke as the best SW character ever

>all the films have shitty dialogue
OT was hardly a master thesis on dialogue, but it was concise and did the job. Plus, it had quotable lines that are iconic for all the right reasons, rather than the cringe of the prequels (sand, etc).

>would you rather [...] Disney
nope, Disney has destroyed the soul of everything they touch, because Bob Iger, Kathleen Kennedy, et al are soulless money-grubbing kikes.

he's alright lucas is just a terrible director

I personally loved the simpler, one-off stories of pre-prequels Star Wars. Shadows of the Empire was fun shit.

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same
the clone wars era has a lot of good shit

Bro he's a terrible actor

>No one can figure out what his motives are.
His motives are daddy issues, the only thing that holywood writers know because they lacked a decent father figure in their childhood.

bait

>manipulated by an unseen force
Sounds stupid to me.
>neglected by your parents
Literally never happened.
>feared
The only person who feared him was "Luke".

Shadow of the empire was kino

>which was plant a ticking bomb inside lucasfilm by making Kennedy the CEO before selling it to Disney
George truly is a genius. Even his career story could make a kino about a man taking revenge against the system who wronged him.

>the only thing that holywood writers know because they lacked a decent father figure in their childhood.
oy vey, don't you know that fathers are actually a TERRIBLE thing for a child? we're taking your children away ASAP, they'll be MUCH better in the care of the state! oh, but you still have to pay for them :^)

IT was mostly George

also he wants to join the dark side like his granddaddy did

The OT had tons of shit dialogue, you autist. Not saying the sand line wasn't cringe but it literally was the point to show that Anakin had no experience with women and lived a different life as a Jedi. But let me guess, you're one of "those" people who wanted Anakin to be a gary-stu ladies man so you could self insert, am I right?

Forgetting that Luke only tried to kill him because he was already turning evil.

>Kylo is the most interesting character ever! You don't understand cinema! Last Jedi is the only good Star Wars movie because it subverted expectations!

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Not every criminal becomes one because they're trying to achieve some noble goal like feeding their family. Most of them end up that way because they were raised in a shit environment.

>The OT had tons of shit dialogue
In Return of the Jedi, yeah - Lucas decided to neuter the interesting bits of every character, sadly (with the exception of the final confrontation, which is still pretty great).

>let me guess
Nope. It's just badly written and directed. I got the point, and am okay with him being an awkward sperg; it just wasn't very well made, and it's weird how Padme basically doesn't even acknowledge how fucking awkward and cringey he is.

>Kylo
>I'm evil because I have decided morality is a trap conceived of by hypocrites to keep us weak, such as my uncle that tried to kill me in my sleep. Discarding such petty notions as right or wrong, I can forge the galaxy in the image of order that my grandfather fought for

>the dialogue was shitty on purpose
jesus can prequel apologists fuck off. Yes Disney made worse films, that doesn't mean the prequels are some work of art that other people just don't understand.

Problem isn't his goal, the problem is that he virtually has no goal aside from being evil, I guess. There's no real purpose to his turning to the dark side. I guess he wants to follow in Vader's footsteps, but it's quite clear he knows next to nothing of Vader. And Vader was just a lackey to the Emperor, he wasn't even in the high rankings of the empire since the Grand Moff was bossing him around. Kylo has worse character development than Jar Jar.

>Kylo Ren: I’m evil because… I’m evil

He's evil because he's envious of his grandfather's power. Granted its not a super deep motivation but its a good basis for his growth as a character.

Frankly I think they should have gone back to the concept of wanting to bring order to the galaxy through force. In a chaotic galaxy with slavery, crime, war and exploitation the desire for order at any cost through the hands of an authoritarian regime could have been presented as an understandable motivation (pic related). If Rian had kept him morally grey he'd be a much more interesting character going into the third act but instead he had him going back to being a whiney evil twat who can't control his temper.

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he does know that his grandfather killed the emperor, right? He knows Vader regretted being evil.

>Kylo has worse character development than Jar Jar.

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Apparently not

this

>How hard is it to write a decent character arch
How hard is it to correctly spell arc?

I really want the sequel trilogy Lucas had in mind.
It sounds much more original and interesting, with the whole dealing with the source of the Force itself and all.
Even if it was shit, it would've been a million times better than the Disney sequels; but then again, watching your family being killed in front of you sounds more enjoyable than the Disney sequels.

Snoke apparently told him but worded it as “love” blinding Vader into doing a stupid thing
You can’t have a Thrawn figure as the villian because Thrawn deserved to win

would have been kino if George actually went with it and completely redeemed Jar Jar as a character. The clumsy clown who fooled everyone and ushered the Galactic Empire.

He's "Evil" because he got sent to a shitty bible camp by his parents who thought he was playing too much D&D to a weird uncle who whipped him for fraternizing with the devil then ran away only to discover his grandpa was a based chad nazi during ww2 and that his cuck weirdo family killed him.

Now he's out trying to live up to his grandpas ideals and confronting the mythology created by his immediate family in the process.

We never see the neglect, nor see him get manipulated by that unseen force. Ben never had the type of moment where he experienced great loss that drove him off the edge. He has daddy issues. Which would be fine if there were more to it.

Lucas has very interesting ideas. You have to praise that. For everything the prequels were, at least they were original and presented very different concepts from the OT. The sequels are a bland reboot of the SW universe and a rehash of the OT in every aspect while adding nothing of any value or originality in them. A testament to Disney's souless corporate products, no risk taken, no active effort to introduce something new, just rehash what's already been successful and expect the mindless consumer drones to throw their money at you.

>You can’t have a Thrawn figure as the villian because Thrawn deserved to win

I thought it would be interesting to do a plot where you have kind of a morally grey authoritarian figure like Thrawn who's trying to take over the galaxy to bring peace and order and save lives because he thinks the New Republic or rebellion or whatever is too weak to do what's necessary. But then the morally grey character makes an alliance with a really nasty Sith who ends up corrupting them and weakening their will. Which sets them up for a redemption arc where they ally with the good guys.

It lets you have your morally grey regime but still presents enough of a classic good vs. evil story that the normies could understand it.

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The prequels were superb in parts, they had every bit of substance needed from world building, to story, to casting. But it came across cheap and corny because of the editing, directing and dialogue. They're like the polar opposite of the sequels which are very cinematic and well put together (TFA at least) but absolutely lacking in substance.

People never seem to realize that the Empire got shit done. The Empire put down civil wars. The Empire ended famines. The Empire maintained order, with an iron fist.

Do you think the Rebels post ROTJ had the manpower to maintain that order?

No. It's just like in reality. People talked about how wonderful it was that Moammar Qaddafi was killed, freeing his people from the yoke of a senile dictator, but no one seems to notice that Libya turned into a war ravaged dumpster fire in a perpetual civil war afterwards.

The exact same thing would have happened after the Emperor died. There would be no order. Civil wars would flare up. Various third rate nations would try for territorial gains. The drug cartels of space would make their move. It would be a white line nightmare.

The Rebels are actually the bad guys.

>your grandfather strove for power out of a desire to save the people he loved, and only continued that Journey to the end because he had nothing else to fight for after they died. Love and Fear drove him to become a monster, betrayal and spite made you who you were in turn. You are nothing like your grandfather. He believed in Family, you pushed them away and made them want to destroy you.

>Qaddafi

I did a paper on Libya back in 7th grade. Everyone got to pick a country and I wanted Libya because I wanted to write a paper on a cartoonish totalitarian dictatorship. But that wasn't the paper I ended up writing. Qadaffi was an authoritarian but a pretty mild one and he did a lot to improve the lives of his people. His only real sin was thumbing his nose at the west and that got him killed to the detriment of Libya, Africa, and Europe.

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t. some faggot who sympathizes with Caeser's Legion.

Yeah.
Even the subversion garbage in TLJ was done using ideas introduced in the OT and the new ideas were literally all hollywood liberal virtue signaling or calculated corporate decree, there was absolutely nothing creative about the sequels.
Even the so highly praised message of learning from failure has been done to death everywhere else, and much better.

STUPID IDIOT YOU HAVE TO READ THE 3 NOVELS THAT STARTED THE TRILOGY OF BOOKS AND YOU HAVE TO READ LEIAS BOOK ALSO WHICH SHOWS THAT BEN SOLO WAS BEING MIND RAPED BY SNOKE AS A FETUS AND BASICALLY BLED DARKSIDE ENERGY INTO THE YOUNG BABIES SOUL CAUSING HIM TO BECOME PURE EVIL GOSH!
Also Kylo is so fucking hot!

Stop watching these shitty movies. A New Hope and Empire were the only good movies to come out of this trainwreck of a franchise.

Every discussion of Lucas should include this point. The guy was such a conniving little psycho. I truly believe the RLM reviews of the prequels started this whole thing

Kylo resents his family and the pressures of their legacy while simultaneously being obsessed with its legacy (Vader) as a surrogate identity. He's a very fragile ego failing to individualize under that strain.

I think the movies convey this but I think it gets a little muddled by his obsession with Rey. Even that, on paper, is tied to his baggage but in the movies it's more of a nauseating distraction because everyone else is already obsessed with her too. She's a void of a plot device.

That’s easy. Have it set after ROTJ where the Empire is in shambles and numerous factions of the same fractured Empire try to rebuild it as a “Republic” in their image.

So they team up with other factions of the broken Empire but it ends up being counter-productive because they were simply in it for the bloodshed.

Basically you have a story where remaining fragments of the empire that joined Palpatine because they believed in order and peace slowly come to the realization that the Rebels were the good guys, while you have the Rebels evolve from a glorified terrorist group to an actual Republic.

At the center of it you have Luke forming his new Jedi Order, which involves converting and recruiting people from the now dead Empire.

The whole deal with sith is they plant weakness in relationships and slowly water them and when things hit a breaking point a sith is there ready to convert you when your emotionally weakest.

The strong Jedi fight that and stay good, the weak ones turn to the dark side.

They could have done a whole thing and explain kylo being tempted and also luke getting his thoughts perverted and both falling for this trick. Instead Disney just dropped the fucking ball and didn't put any actual effort into making us actually give a shit about kylo. That could have just been the whole fucking movie, dig deep into the sith lore.

I mean I wouldn't say the Empire was good. I'd rather live free with a chance of getting killed by criminals or terrorists then living under a police state which also might kill me for wrong think or wrong speak......plus they blew up a planet.

None the less, I think the Nu trilogy should have presented the galaxy as a chaotic place without the Empire and shown why some people missed their stabilizing influence. Ironically the Resistance cartoon (the one for kids with the terrible art style) actually did a decent job of showing why people would join the First Order while the films just present them as a cartoonishly evil faction.

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>durr contrived

Stop pretending you know what words mean just so you can bitch.

That's basically the gist of it though, but you are leaving a lot out. Ben had been struggling with the Dark inside him for quite some times, that's why Leia sent him to Luke. To have it revealed that he is the Grandson of Darth Vader and then have Luke try to murder him in his sleep was the final nail in the coffin. Everyone seems to think he's a monster and even betrayed him, so why fight it anymore? He also wants to carve out his own destiny separate from his family because the pressure of being their heir is devastating and immense. He is a protag in his own right going through a coming of age journey. He latched onto Vader as a bit of a "fuck you" to his family, but he also related to him more than the rest of his own family. He wants to surpass him, hopefully by being his own thing now that he's HOPEFULLY dropped the fanboy act for good.

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>they blew up a planet
They had to blow up the root of the problem,they just blew up the wrong core.

>George knew that she would completely ruin the new movies and would run the series to the ground
How would he know that? The bitch worked for him and Spielberg on all the Indy films and served as an executive producer on 80s kino like Who Framed Roger Rabbit. At the time, giving her Star Wars seemed like a no-brainer. Literally no one could have predicted she try to rebrand Star Wars as "female".

>muh Disney
No one mentioned Disney, you fucking ape. And the scene was clearly intentional no matter how you look at it.

don't talk shit about kylo ren, he's the only reason to watch these dumb movies.

Uhm didnt he get the memo that vader redeemed himself in the end?

>It makes sense, but I don't like it.

Basically. Cope more, brainlets. I agree it should've been in the movies more though.

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>In Return of the Jedi, yeah
No, the whole OT.
>it's weird how Padme basically doesn't even acknowledge how fucking awkward and cringey he is
She does though and immediately shoots him down. Did you even watch the scene or just parroted what RLM told you?

Wouldn't the people who worked on the movies know in full detail who actually did a good job and who was a complete retard that stayed there because they weren't fucking up that hard?

Also, in Hollywood you fail upwards.

>IX has Kylo in a position to finally realize his full power and realize his full potential. He is literally the only new character worth caring about, and Episode IX may very well be the movie he overtakes Luke as the best SW character ever

All of this. I'm actually genuinely excited for his character after TLJ. I hope he does some grand things. My excitement is only dampened by the idea that JJ is a hack and is going to shift the focus to Rey instead for some reason.

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Except Kylo's issues are with all of his family members, not just his father. In fact, Han is the only one who seems to have the best influence on him. Leia and Luke are the ones that fucked up harder than anyone.

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You know who had an arch? Noah.

kino

Fuck off, Rey. You don't even have a family. Great "heroine" for the ST kek

He was but his character don't have any sense at all now. The helmet and the voice are cool also the light saber has become iconic. But nothing more about him.

He wants to bring Order to the Galaxy, he says this word for word, you illiterate brianlet.

Apparently he does know about Anakin's turn back to the good, but he sees it as a failure.

Yes, apparently he did but he sees it as a failure on Vader's part to have turned back to the good side. Hence the "I'll finish what you STARTED" and Snoke constantly berating him for having compassion and telling Kylo it's a weakness.

This, I imagine Han is the type who says to his son before leaving

"Pssst, Ben, jedi schools are pretty strict I hear and they don't get access to HoloNet. Here's the finest collection of porn holofeed I could find. If you get caught with that by your mom or your uncle you didn't get it from me."

Anakin was only tolerable when he had his titties out.

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His struggle is trying to find his own identity and fulfill his potential. He relates to Rey because he sees a kindred spirit in her. They both have issues with their family and hangups about where they came from. He is assured of his grand destiny and accepting of his power, whereas Rey is afraid of hers. All of TLJ he is nurturing her and trying to get her to accept it and hopefully join him since they are so similar.

Ironically, it was the absence of bonds that kept Rey from being corrupted. The pain of being betrayed by his loved ones and neglected is what pushed Ben Solo over the edge.

While I do agree that Rey is an obnoxious Mary Sue blackhole, her relationship with Ben is one of the only one she has that actually makes sense and I can appreciate that Ben seems to be the only character who does challenge Rey a bit. He doesn't completely worship her like everyone else. Just because he's in love with her, didn't make him join her and bow to her whims after all.

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His "fans" are the reasons why everything bad in the prequels was bad in the prequels. I still have star wars magazines from the 1990s where written in letters ans editorials wanted moar wars and moar lightsabers. Right from the start it was tasteless autistic capeshit loving faggots that took over and dominated the fanbase, retards who didn't understand what actually made star wars good. Lucas created episode I entirely with the fans in mind. He gave them what they were asking for. Same thing with JewJew-he wrote a script wholly with what the fans said they wanted in mind. And in both cases it turned out to be a disaster.

Blaming the directors is wrong. It was the fans that shit up the franchise. Just look at RLM-they're supposed fans and all their ideas and thoughts about what Star Wars should be are fucking retarded.

If Disney wanted to get serious about making Star Wars movies, the first thing they need to accept is that the fans are dumbfuck retards and need to be ignored.

We can blame the directors all we want since they listened to the fans.

>He relates to Rey because he sees a kindred spirit in her. They both have issues with their family and hangups
I know, which is what I was referring to when I said that, on paper, his obsession with Rey relates to this too. I just don't think it works that well for anyone other than teenagers writing slash fiction. I do agree that her relationship with Kylo makes more sense than the way everyone else latches onto her, but even the circumstances that incite Kylo's obsession are contrived because Rey herself is contrived. It's not character drama so much as plot convenience. One of the better parts of the trilogy, for sure, but that is not high praise.

It's a well known fact that Lucas was not an "actor's director", and he couldn't even pull lively performances out of experienced actors like Sam Jackson, Liam Neeson, or Natalie Portman.

Leia stated that she fucked up by sending him away and implies that all he really needed was his Father. Luke implies that Han wasn't happy about sending him away, so it's basically confirming that Han was right and the two magical twin weirdos made him feel like he didn't understand his own son better than they did so he just let it happen.

Extended material highlights the fact that Han feels insecure in his fatherhood largely because Ben is so strong in the Force and he never understood it. He almost seems jealous that Leia has a bond with Ben that he never will, but she assures him they will have their own special bond and she was right. Ben adored his father when he was younger and wanted to be a pilot just like him. As he got older and Han's insecurities got the best of him, he probably became disenchanted with him for refusing to step up as a dad and resented him for not fighting Luke and Leia harder about sending him away.

It's tragic that this family couldn't get their shit together sooner to properly raise him. Even JJ stated that they were "unequipped" to deal with Ben.

>strong with the Force
>plus an evil dude targeting him the whole time

Add the shadow of Vader hanging over everyone's heads and it was a recipe for a disaster.

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>proves his uncles point
actual autism but okay

>Snoke had potential but was JUSTed in TLJ

He's been retconned into being a meat puppet for Sheev's ghost.

Right. He barely has any screentime and when he does he's just reacting to what Rey, Han, or Luke are doing. The movies barely explore his emotions or motivations. 9 probably will have the most of him but it's far too late for me to really care

>Dooku was meh-tier, the most mild vilain to ever exist in anything

I still don't get why Dooku didn't throw Palpatine under the bus as soon as it was clear that he was getting double crossed, or at least try to use his knowledge of the Sith Lord as a bargaining chip for his life. I thought the whole thing with Sith is that they're selfish.

His fucking kike face and barrel chest are triggering me, and I haven't seen a single disneywars shitshow (other than rogue one).

I disagree. I think Kylo and Rey's relationship works so well because it's not just character drama, it also relates heavily to the overarching plot and the Force plot. It's not just "kissy fun for teenagers" like you say, which honestly I don't have a problem with if it's written and acted well, which it has been so far.

I will agree that Rey does feel like a Bella Swan in the relationship, though. She's a nobody Mary Sue and this interesting Dark Prince from an elite bloodline conveniently falls in love with her because of very specific circumstances they both share, she is specially tailored to be the only girl he would ever care about. It does feel a little forced and like some unrealistic female fantasy from that point of view.

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To be fair Jedi are forbidden for having any kind of relationship outside of their homosex order so it’s not like they would have permit him to see his mommy

I love the idea that Han taught Ben scoundrel things like cheating at cards or about women. Even just a little before things went to shit.

None of this emotional or artistic bullshit about kylo that anons are extrapolating in this thread are represented in the dialogue, acting, or cinematography of the sequel trilogy. Not to say it isnt there in theory, but please spare me your writing the movie for the fags at Disney.

Their relationship is nonexistent. There is no reason for Rey to like him after he kills her surrogate father and wounds her best friend. "muh dark and mysterious" and "we are both lost souls" isnt a good enough reason.

>homosex
>he doesn't want to hit puberty as a padawan and explore his sexuality with all the hot alien cunny from around the galaxy
>or be a budding female padawan and get paired up with someone like aayla

Han rubbing off on Ben in that way may be canon, because Rian confirmed he made out with some girl at Jedi camp. I bet Luke wasn't too happy about that. Or, you know, catching him holding hands in a hut with his new student Rey.

>Luke's fw he is forever destined to have the women in his life corrupted by Solo men

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nothing about luke crying hysterically about vader being his father makes sense reee reee new bad old good

At least Kylo won't die a virgin

I just have a head canon where Han diddled Kylo as a young boy and Kylo never told anyone but that's why he killed him

Calm down, zoomer. Just because you weren't even a spermatozoon in your father's sack when the EU books were written doesn't mean disney wars is good.

>t. Finn

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>None of this emotional or artistic bullshit about kylo that anons are extrapolating in this thread are represented in the dialogue, acting, or cinematography of the sequel trilogy.
I think the family baggage angle is all pretty straight forward. Whether it's handled well is a different question, but it's still there.

This shot really underlines how incredibly ugly Kylo is. Adam Driver really should have kept some facial hair for this role because goddamn does Kylo look inbred.

I don't even think the new stars wars movies are good, I was born in 89 and consumed star wars shit my entire life. I'm just not rabidly obsessed with hating new kids movies.

Even if they're legitimately shit?

Kylo's fall is kind of like those trade negotiations at the beginning of Episode 1. Their only purpose is to kick off the plot, but even my pro-Prequels friend doesn't understand what the hell they were supposed to be about in-universe.

What's strange to me is that Darth Vader is one of the most iconic and profitable film characters of all time, yet they've now made two Star Wars trilogies that are lacking a Darth Vader-type villain but instead have a whiny twink as the main villain. At least the prequels had the excuse of being prequels with a largely baked in plot and characters, but why didn't they come up with something cooler for the sequels than Anakin 2.0?

But there is subtext within the movies themselves that luke thinks his father was killed by darth vader plus learning his father is a genocidal maniac? To be fair Kylo DOES talk about "how hes torn between the dark and the light" but the backstory to that, and how that conflict manifests itself in the narrative is either nonexistent or contradictory.

Cant tell if your just mememing. I think all of that dialogue is cringy. Having Rey "swoon" for Kylo in a matter of hours is just typical twilight style schlock and should be beneath the consideration that anons are giving it.

Dunces. The negotions were to avoid a conflict/ensure fair negotions with the trade federation and Naboo. The TF already planned to attack anyway

Even if IX is decent, the characters and overall anything from the past movies will overshadow anything good about the trilogy, which is nothing. I have zero connection to these characters. It's like The Hobbit all over again.

For the same reason they couldn't think of anything else original. So far the ST has been complete utter retreads of the OT hitting all of the exact same notes.

No offense, but you are basically making it all up for the writers. Every single "proof" you cited is the most subtle and vague of body language and dialogue that you could make. Its just typical JJ abrams vague mystery box bullshit. I can do the same thing to every plot device and pull out an actual good story. I also acknowledged that the stuff "is there in theory"

I love how this highlights how much more attractive Kylo is than Anakin. Anakin looks like some Chucky or Cabbage Patch doll here.

Kylo Ren is so beautiful. Masculine and big but majestic at the same time. Like an actual Greek God carved from Marble.

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what a conceited self aggrandizing cunt

COPE MORE

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wtf they don't even look alike??

Because George is a dumb fraud and made Star Wars as bare bones morally as possible because it's intended for little kids but got co-opted by adults, same as comic books.

Bait. Hayden in RotS was perfect for Anakin hitting the dark side. Sans maybe Christopher Lloyd.

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>Christopher Lloyd
What a beautiful error you have made.

Kylo Ben truly is the perfect man.

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they should've had him cameo in spooky makeup during a maskless scene in rogue one

The only good things that have come from the sequel films are the Men . com porn parodies.

>like an actual greek god carved from marble
And with the dick of one too, eh?

>it came across cheap and corny because of the editing, directing and dialogue
right, don't mention the acting. no issues with that, at least.

>my uncle diddled me in the dark, so I will prove him right and kill 30 billion people, my own father, and explode 5 planes in the process!
Well done, Kylo. Very relatable villain, would do the same in his shoes.

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Nah. You can just tell sometimes...

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>Kylo will never spear you with his big saber

Rey is so lucky~

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watching your family being killed in front of you is literally what the sequels are

>The Rebels are actually the bad guys.
That's the real reason Luke abandoned it all and got a nice island somewhere to live out the rest of his days in peace.

to be fair christensen and portman didn't exactly have any good lines to work with

>mcdiarmid cartoonishly hammed it up and still managed to steal the show

The one on the bottom is one ugly Brian Warner looking motherfucker

Don't dare suggest this on Yea Forums. The onions side of the force is real there. Star Wars is one big lesson that lawful government works and communist revolution doesn't, even if George didn't intend it and leftwing fanboys want to deny it.

>women in his life
>some bimbo that stayed there for three days if much

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>why fight it
except that y'know he was "fighting" the light side in him all through 7 and 8.

they really don't seem to know where they wanna go with him as a character and so it just comes off as two writers fighting over the helm page by page.

>everyone should just accept my headcanon as objective truth!
get laid

Good thing about not giving a shit about zoomie disneywars is Luke gets to knock up this beauty after defeating the brainwashing making her want to kill him.
Not
>lel le permavirgin xd

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And I'm proud of it

>How would he know that?
>The bitch worked for him-
answered your own question. Good job champ. He probably heard her ranting about feminism behind the scenes of every production and quietly thought to himself, "perfect".

She was one of the bimbos tap dancing in the Temple of Doom opening, George knew what he was doing handing the reins to her.

Holy shit the Reylofag is on the loose

Too bad everyone's hatred of Episode 1 ruined him as a child and made him absolutely loathe everything. Pretty perfect Vader if you ask me.

>Star Wars is one big lesson that lawful government works and communist revolution doesn't,

Star Wars was never commie until Disney got their hands on it. The message of both the original trilogy and the prequels is decidedly anti authoritarian. Luke and his family get nothing from the Empire then it shows up and kills them and Leia's whole planet gets nuked as an example to others. In the prequels Palpatine repeatedly expands his powers by using war and fear to manipulate the public. If your conclusion from all of this is that authoritarianism works then you're just seeing what you want.

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Authoritarianism isn't a bad thing, it's about who or what the authority is. George set up the OT as a parallel of his warped vision of the Vietnam War, with the (communist) Rebels being good and fighting the (non-communist) Empire which was evil. He says Nixon is Satan incarnate and Palpatine is Nixon, and Vader is a "Nixon mobster." It sucks to say that all the neat concepts and stories of Star Wars originated with a crackpot communist director duped into drinking the red kool-aid. Star Wars' "message" has always been communist, or more accurately how communists view themselves, as the brave heroes fighting "the man" when in actuality they're villains to the core.

>wow you think I’m evil that’s so cruel
>you know what? I’m going to prove you right fuck you I’m going to be the evilest evil there ever was
*blows up multiple planets with his original the Death Star do not steal*

Authoritarianism prevents shit like leftism and all its destructive failings.

Isn't it such a fucking bummer that Star Wars ended up such a shit heap? Even the prequels and all the post 2009 Star Trek isn't THAT bad. I had a dream about this when Disney bought Star Wars. I knew it would be bad, it's even worse than it was in my dream.

Get a load of this guy.

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He says what he wants literally out loud. He thinks the galaxy is shit, both Jedi and Sith and everything in between, and he wants to burn it all down and start over again with himself (and Rey) as the leader.

No it doesn't. It merely imposes the morals of those in power on the masses. If those in power want your kids to read about the gender spectrum and anal sex in elementary school then that's what's going to happen.

>the negotiations were about assuring negotiations
And what, pray tell, were those negotiations supposed to revolve around? Because that's the entire point, we're only given a vague mention trade route taxation but not why the Trade Federation was allegedly interested in that nor how it involved the Naboo.

He's not envious of Vader, he's pressured by that legacy. Vader is what he considers the ideal, but he has to pointedly ignore what became of him to use him as a role model. Really, wanting to be as strong as Vader is just his cover for how much he felt helpless, out of control, and not up to par in his life.

Going by novels like Bloodline, pair that up with the fact that his entire family was keeping very important information from him, like the fact that his lack of control over the Force and maybe even his dark urges were par for the course for his lineage. Instead, he has to find out he's Vader's grandson when the entire galaxy finds out. So he feels pressure, is sent away by his family who can't figure out how to deal with him, is heavily implied to have had Snoke whispering in his ear all along, and to top it all off, his family has been lying to him all along.

Kylo doesn't have some grand motivation. It all just comes down to his personal pain that he projects onto everything around him and his desire to be as dark as he can in the hopes that he can master it. He just wants to watch the galaxy he perceives as hurting him burn and though he makes motions at wanting to rebuild it his own way, that's secondary to the "destroy it" part. Essentially, he's an emotionally stunted and fucked up dude who's been mind-diddled by Snoke/Palpatine and is lashing out aimlessly.

Lucas wasn't a commie he was just a typical naive hippie idealist. They opposed the Vietnam war because of the draft and because of the general futility of the war and they convinced themselves that the North Vietnamese were fighting imperialism and not trying to conquer another country.

Thinking that your average hippie actually cared or even thought about the Vietnamese government is giving them too much credit. It was about their opposition to the draft and their opposition to Nixon (even though it was LBJ who passed the draft and expanded the war and Nixon who ended it.). Sentiments that the Democratic party co opted to create the modern left.

He likes Rey for the same reason he seemingly insults her. He likes that they can understand each other, but also that she's entirely disconnected from the "Skywalker saga" because she's a nobody. It's simpler that way.

Literally the only way Rey works is in relation to Kylo. She's a dud in every other aspect.

Not really. Rey craves understanding and Kylo comes the closest to being able to understand. They're not much different in that respect. They're on the same level in ways other characters aren't for either of them.

Is this all head canon? You guys have to be making all this shit up? There’s nothing to discuss when it comes to the ST. Kylo has literally known this girl for like 2 days, and there was nothing in the films to suggest any sort of deep bond. While this may be the narrative that Disney wanted to spin, they didn’t actually put the effort into FILMING it.

Pretty much, except disney won't authorize any good books to be based on it so the zoomies have to make up an entire EU in their minds.

I can't fucking believe that after the whole Naboo shit was settled, Obi-Wan and some other Jedi didn't go down and liberate Anakin's mom.
What reason did they have to not go and get her? Right from the beginning they were worried about him being unstable. Wouldn't grabbing his mom help his development?

So heres whats going to happen following their formula
>Emperor ghost is defeated by Luke ghost as Rey and Kylo fight beneath them in an exploding ship
>Rey corners Kylo as Luke strikes down the empero with the help of Vaders ghost
>as the emperor gives an evil laugh and receeds into ghost realm once more, Luke takes the time to tell Kylo that it was all a misunderstanding that he tried to kill him
>Kylo will have a mental break as he realizes he has killed his father over a misunderstanding
>he will then get mad and fight the ghost as Rey stands with mouth agape, Daisy thinking this expression conveys adventure so she does it in every scene from here out
>he will get beat again because you cant kill a fucking ghost, even Darth Vader shows up to berate him and tell him that he too was once a bitch, he is now dangling off a cliff by the way
>Rey will tell him he is good and that this was all a misunderstanding and that everyone can be a jedi (even you) and says to take his hand
>Luke will roll his eyes and says something witty as Kylo relents
>Kylo takes Reys hand like a reluctant child
>his hand slips and he falls to his death
>"youre the best of us Rey" Luke will say as the screams of Kylo echo in the distance and suddenly cuts out
>The force ghosts all look to eachother and smile
>Rey becomes the Avatar and harnesses the power of her ancestors to fly out of the exploding ship shes in and land down on the world below where she is treated like a normal human by her friends despite eliciting a gods power
>"I just thought really hard" she will say "I thought really hard about winning and I won"
>the kid from the end of the last movie is there, Rey says she will train all of them, because "noone ever really dies", and the emperor will be back, so she needs to assemble the Avengers to fight Palpatine when he returns, thus leading into several spinoffs and continuation movies where the Jedi can fly through space without ships and everyone is a Jedi

No way, he does a good job with what he was given

>Anakin burns
>Kylo drowns

>Anakin: I want to become so powerful that I can stop my mother from dying
>Jedi masters were assholes who left her mom to death
>Anakin trusts Papaltine who offered nothing to back his promise
>wife died because he broke her heart
Sure the character is interesting but because of it the story suffered.

No one said he was successful you dumb, illiterate cunt. It's part of his struggle that he can't kill the Light in him completely to do what he thinks he must for the greater good.

>"I know what I have to do, but I don't know if I have the strength to do it. Will you help me?"

It's like you didn't even watch the movies.

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>>grandson of the legendary darth vader
>>train with Luke, the last jedi
>>become a mediocre jedi
>>think force power is diluted by Han's blood and Luke being a bad teacher
>>Snoke tempt him with greater power from the dark side

that would have been much better.

She only stayed for three days because she was busy running after Ben's big Ben kek

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>>Kylo Ren: I’m evil because… I’m evil
That's basically Palpatine too. Disney just sucks at writing.

>That's basically Palpatine too. Disney just sucks at writing.
that was lucas to begin with, but he know Sheeve doesn't need a reason. He just is.

>Emperor was just a God-mode evil robot Gary Stu
Holy cringe
>Darth Vader was a cuck and a glorified bodyguard to a Sith more powerful than him
This alone makes him better than Kylo
>Snoke had potential but was JUSTed in TLJ
Kylo got justed harder
>Kylo is real and is flesh and blood, failures and triumphs,power and pain and raw emotions
He's just a punching bag for Rey and one of the most incoherently written characters of ALL time

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Close, but I disagree that Kylo's only motivator is his hurt and lashing out at the Galaxy for it. He is destined for greatness, this is hinted at and highlighted by even Snoke when he says that if only Kylo could achieve balance, he could be truly great. It's implied somewhere I believe that Kylo does feel and believe he is destined for something big, but that he had no proper guidance. He's similar to Rey in this aspect as well. That's why he was taken in so much easier by Snoke's promise to teach him and help him fulfill his destiny. Even in the novel, Rey says she senses that the Force isn't done with him and implies he needs to stop trying to bend it to his will.

He also is constantly characterized by a compassionate side that supposedly comes from his father, but also probably just the Skywalker in him as well.

It seems his destiny was to be some grand compassionate hero, but he was corrupted along the way and is fighting against his "true" destiny.

He thinks he is the good guy and I do believe it's not just lip service or a cover for his hurt. I think he does care about what happens to the Galaxy genuinely, he's just been mindffucked and manipulated by Snoke. It's almost like the Force sent Rey to him to try and correct his path.

The kidnapping was a farce, Dooku thought Palpatine was on his side until the moment he told Anakin to kill him.

Use your brain, I understood that shit as a child.

Agreed. I had a fun idea that Rey is just a figment of Kylo's fucked up mind that the Force helped him conjure to help him get back on the right path kek Would explain a lot.

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>Dooku thought Palpatine was on his side until the moment he told Anakin to kill him.
>Use your brain, I understood that shit as a child.

that duel was basically an audition for Anakin. Sheev wanted to trade in for a stronger apprentice but Anakin had to prove himself first.

He tried the same shit with Luke later.

More like

>Anakin chose Darkness over love for his waifu and killed her, dooming his kids to living without their parents
>Kylo chooses his waifu over Darkness in the end and they live happily with their children, finishing what his Grandfather started from a certain point of view

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driver looks like a frumpy weirdo. i'm not surprised you posted a fucking tumblr image. go back
you reylo faggots (if there really is more than one of you) are so fucking transparent, just take your frog lipped mushman, shlick, and fuck off

He's not even 'evil' you absolute brainlet

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I was the third one, and I said that because greek statues have tiny dicks, you fucking classicallet.

This. So much good shit around the prequels helped flesh out the story and helped make it more palatable. Where's the Clone Wars level show for the ST? Where's Podracer, or any of the other games for the ST? You've got Resistance and Battlefront II and that's about it. Don't even get me started on the characters of the ST compared to PT.

yeah you saw david once, i get it
maybe make it more clear next time, it really sounds like you're trying to say he has a nice dick

Agreed. I just re-watched Ep 1 and for all all the concern Yoda expressed about Anakin's future, they never did shit to prevent it.

Seething manlet.

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Jedi are supposed to be detached from things that could tempt them or some shit. It wouldn't make sense for the Jedi order to bring Anakin's mom back in to his life

i love how you didn't even try defending his fucked up face and just try shooting the messenger. that really says it all

>pl-pls don't say he has a nice dick, it triggers me

lol spotted the dicklet

Democracy in general is a fucking meme

Kylo Ren is a school shooter incel... a character for our times

another desperate insult. adam is disgusting, just face it

Parents were absent most of his life.
Uncle Jake tried to murder him in his sleep.

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It's the same seething cuck from the other day. I can spell the estrogen from here.

>Star Wars was never commie until Disney got their hands on it.
George literally based the Ewoks (heroes) on the fucking Vietnamese, fighting against a stronger, more technologically advanced imperialist foe (America). Don't forget that George was originally on Apocalypse Now.

Aristophanes wrote about the ideal male body and how it involved a small penis. Every statue of the "ideal" male involves one, including ones of Zeus.

Why would I start defending it? We all know what he looks like. People still find him attractive. You aren't the messenger, you're just a seething manlet who's jealous of an """"ugly"""" guy being considered hot. It's fucking hilarious.

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Take your meds, tranny. This isn't your personal hugbox to vent your insecurities every thread.

not everyone disgusted by tumblrites fawning over a frumpy faced weirdo in a series of awful films is the same person, but whatever makes you feel better on 4channel sweaty

You are easy to spot, don't kid yourself. Your dick must honestly be the size of a button to act like this.

wait, so having the same penis as david is bad?

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Why does it bother you so much?

Yeah, no shit. I mean why he didn't sing like a canary as soon as Palpatine told Anakin to kill him.

t.

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>MUH DICK
i wasn't the one who said anything about adam driver's dick, try following the thread
and these reylo faggots just keep coming. i think the dude is unattractive, why the fuck does me pointing that out bother YOU so much? i saw some tumblrite post a picture calling him super smexy. i called him ugly, then the adam driver defense force piles out. deal with it cunts

kek
>i wasn't the one who said anything about adam driver's dick, try following the thread
I was just trying to self-deprecate to lighten up the thread

Just ignore the seething transitioning manlet. He's like a woman, just crying for attention every thread. Let him kick and scream at himself.

adam driver will never want to make ugly babies with you, you seething dilating motherfucker

How insecure of yourself are you that you need to throw tantrums over other people finding a man attractive?

more just annoyed at reylo shit. you seem pretty insecure yourself

You should have some self-awareness. Everyone is laughing at you and we can spot you from a mile away you are so obvious. Get a clue, buddy.

>NO U!
I'm not the one screaming and shitting himself over how another man looks.

no, there's been like 4 people in this thread since i posted, and i think 3 of them are reylo fags. even if you are laughing, that's fine. this is an anonymous imageboard. i can tell you're more used to something like tumblr.
no shitting involved, i would've left it at the one post if you fucks would just stop replying. it's my duty to return every (you)

jake lloyd was even worse

Ah, you admit you're only here to shitpost.

You're like an actual caricature of a seething manlet, it's hilarious.

I don't think you get how pathetic you sound. Even most guys can respect Driver for looking like an inbred jew , yet still having bitches all over him. I think the trannies here are laughing at you.

no, i was on topic, telling someone calling adam driver hot that he is in fact ugly. it's really inconsequential to me either way, but it seems to mean the world to you. you're really desperate for a GOTCHA, aren't you? typical. just stop replying to me, faggot.
>Even most guys can respect Driver for looking like an inbred jew
what the fuck is wrong with you? what world do you live in?

>no, i was on topic
This thread is about Star Wars, not your screaming meemees over how attractive a man is.

>it's my personal doody to reply

this can't be real

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What would that even do to help him? Absolutely nothing.

>Anakin believes him
And them Sheev kills both.

>Anakin does not believe him
And them Sheev kills both just to be sure.

>shift the focus to Rey instead for some reason.
You know it to be true. They are either going to kill Kylo off, or he's going to be allowed to live as her partner, purely to breed another generation of Skywalkers that they can use for another soft reboot like TFA "And do it right this time, we promise!".

Over twenty years in this fandom, user. We've seen how much promises are worth.

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Han was absent most of his childhood. He didn't even know Ben had been sent to the academy until he was already gone, it's part of why he and Leia split, if I remember correctly.

there's no "meemees" here, this is sort of how discussion works on this board, try to keep up.
keep trying to co-opt the hot lingo, maybe you won't stick out someday
you realize that the poster count hasn't gone up and it's obvious been obvious you're samefagging, right?
poster count did go up for this guy though, he's legit. kylo needs to die, you can't redeem someone who coldbloodedly murdered their father onscreen

>had a perfect opportunity to adapt this in the early 2000s when the actors weren't elderly yet and could make cool cameos
>never happened

It's really sad how triggered you are over random strangers on a message board finding a man attractive. I'd hate to see how you react to things when people are actually around you.

You've never actually met many women and heard them talk, have you?

>you can't redeem someone who coldbloodedly murdered their father onscreen

>it was the Finncuck all along

sasuga

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the only thing "triggered" in me is laughing at your desperate defense. keep going, it's fun

>assumes I'm "defending" anything
Pointing out your massive autism isn't a defense for anything, you self-important fag.

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I think Kylo dying is likely, but he'll die in a redemptive act.

ahahah then why do you care so much? i'm having fun telling people who think adam driver is god's gift to man that i think he's ugly, and discussing the trainwreck that is the ST on the side. i was only gonna have one post about how i think he's ugly, but i got about 5 yous in as many minutes, and they just keep coming. you're clearly very invested in me being bootyblasted, but i'm sorry babe, ain't gonna happen

Open your eyes. Most people find him likable and respect his talent.

I don't think they will kill Kylo off, they keep talking about redemption and hopeful emotional endings.

>people who think adam driver is god's gift to man
Can you point out anywhere in this thread anyone has specifically said that?

>he's still here

kek

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specifically? as in verbatim? are you dense?
>Kylo Ren is so beautiful. Masculine and big but majestic at the same time. Like an actual Greek God carved from Marble.
so are you, post count didn't go up

No. Luke implies that Han was unhappy about Ben being sent off and Leia says "it's when I lost you both" implying that it drove a rift between her and Han because he wasn't happy with the decision.

Han arguably came closest to turning Kylo back to the Light. JJ said he was genuinely going to turn, bu then the Darkness took over or something.

Pretty sure user said that just to trigger you, which worked beautifully.

>monitoring poster counts to cry about an ugly guy being attractive to roasties and fags
wew

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>not even denying it anymore

wew

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The post count goes up with every post, redditor.

Wonder how ugly you are to keep screeching like a tranny about how another person looks.

i'm not triggered, fruit.
it's fun, what can i say
yeah, when i tab back in, it's really easy to look at one number. you fuckers really are desperate, aren't you?
postER count, you're thinking of reply count

and these posts are all so close together with such a similar writing style, you all must be in a discord or something... not trying to sound conspiratorial but goddamn, this is weird

life is imitating art it seems

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We're having more fun telling your autistic ass off. You don't even realize how cringe you're being and that makes it even better.

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>go to wikipedia trying to find out this guy's ethnicity because he looks like some jew-mexican mix
>find this
Which one of you did this?

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>you all must be in a discord or something... not trying to sound conspiratorial but goddamn, this is weird

this is fucking hilarious

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you have the same writing style as "many others" in this thread, and once again, poster count hasn't gone up. are you dare i say fucking desperate? i'm having fun. i think adam driver is ugly and the star wars sequels suck. nyah nyah nyah nyah

topkek

You are the one sperging out over at least 3 to 4 people laughing at you and you have the balls to call orhers desperate and monitor poster counts kek? It's good that you're having fun, so are we. Say more hilarious stuff. It's your right to think he's ugly by the way, just pointing out how jelly you sound.

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did somebody say sneed hams?

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>actually needham
Based.

you must have never seen a spergout. and
>we
so are you coordinated? inb4
>no i'm just assuming how they think because ur totes jelly and we're all laughing at u and totes not seething
no, you clearly are coordinated. these images you're all posting, they're not from here. your rampant adoration for this unremarkable celebrity isn't from here. you stick out. frankly this is weird at this point. still fun kind of, but fuckin weird.

I find it hilarious how reylo niggers troll the shit out of people by pretending to be retarded and people get so riled up and don't even know what hit them.

based reyloposters

go back to tumblr, whale. I can smell your gaping hole tuna melt dilation chamber from here

tumblrwhale mad no one gives a fuck about her fat ugly fave

Yeah coordinated in our thirst for Driver. I've gotta tell you, it really is a special feeling of comradery to have random fellow inbred Jew enthusiasts dab on the haters. It's even better that you think it's a Discord tranny effort.

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the fact that user types like a underage sjw from tumblr and only spergs over driver gives he/it/she away

the anti-reylos are shitting their pants because their ghetto kween daisy said reylo fans will be happy and they can't pretend she hates it anymore

jesus christ you're a weird little fucker, aren't you
trying waaaaaaaaaaaaay too hard
pretending to be retarded isn't trolling, it's just being retarded

> separated from his mother from like 12 years old and don’t get to see her for years
> by the time he see his mother, she died in his arms after being literally raped to dead by sand niggers
> get separated from his love to go and fight one of the bloodiest war in the history of galaxy throughout most of his teenager year
> Jedi council treated him like shit anyway because muh prophecy.

>i'm a big guy

Will we have a livestreamed mass suicide with ReyLo niggers when episode IX comes up and Kylo Ren dies?

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you sure are mad your slay kween is saying only positive things about reylo lately

get a life and stop projecting onto ficitonal character you ugly fucking troglodyte

keep dreaming

i don't even know what you're accusing me of, who is my "slay kween"? i can assure you, whoever she is, i'd probably like her better with a bullet in her head

Our character is still the best character in this pile of shit so who cares.

Daisy said Reylo fans will be happy seeing Kylo in the movie and that people will be satisfied with their relationship, so no.

112 days, 20 hours, and 23 minutes until Kylo Ren dies and reyloniggers are finally purged.

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I just want to say thank you for providing daily laughs and (You)s to the Driver hating manlet.

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>get a life and stop projecting onto ficitonal character you ugly fucking troglodyte

can you fucking read, you illiterate waste of space?

meant for the finnwhale who isn't fooling anyone btw

Honestly, Kylo/Ben is the sole thing of interest, outside more Rey porn, I have in IX or Star Wars full stop. They retroactively killed everything else for me. I'll be watching and reading any spoilers as we come up to release, and be basing whether I even bother to buy a single ticket on what happens to him.

Despite it being a family tradition to see the movies for decades, with everyone coming even if they weren't big fans, that died with TLJ. My mom who saw ANH as a teen and was blown away is no longer interested due to the lack of the OT cast, my brother prefers to watch game streams on his laptop, my pops only went because the rest of the family did, and my grandparents are now too old and basically housebound. Even if I go, it'll be Solo and to see out the end of what might be the final trilogy.

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Have some sympathy. It must be suffering to be one.

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hi i'm that guy you meant to respond to. what the fuck is a "finnwhale"? is that like a finnrey person or perhaps finnlo? i'm not up on your tumblr lingo, frankly you fuckers sicken me
you really want me to an ugly manlet, don't you? if it makes you feel better, sure, this user here will be as short and ugly as you want. goodnight my little cheesecake. i hope you get to dream of adam slathering your ham with his frog lips.

Imagine being so pathetic and devoid of any real identity or self-confidence that you project onto an ugly fat nigger in a space wizard knockoff movie

dream about impregnating bodega's birthing hips, you failed abortion. no one is going to miss you

Thank you dear. See you tomorrow!

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Rude ;_;

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wtf is wrong with you people, is this real? are there like inter-shipping wars or whatever the fuck this is?

fuck off, ugly hole

that thing is pretty cool, not like those gay crystal foxes or porgs, or the giant talking dick in TROS.

It's just some friendly banter among friends.

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anti-reylos are mentally ill failed abortions

Is the dick confirmed to talk?

>anyone who worships celebrities or "ships" is a mentally ill failed abortion
fixed that for you

>t. mentally ill failed abortion

i guess not, i don't know i just assumed. It wouldn't be any better if it just made dumb faces at people. why created that thing as a background prop.

>defending celebrity worships and ""shipping""
yup ma, sorry, this one's gonna live to be retarded

Finn is much more interesting and deep character than Kylo will ever be. The fact that John is a stronger actor with actual presence is also a reason why he is a better character, goblin Driver is not even close to his level.

>The fact that John is a stronger actor with actual presence

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top b8

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Show me a single woman who has fallen in love with a man two days after he has kidnapped her, tortured her, killed her father figure (and his actual father), mutilated her best friend and tried to kill her in a fight.

Fuck off racists, you will cry when Finn and Rey share a passionate kiss and your fave will rot.

WE

FAGGOTS

>Finn grimaced when Rose kissed him
>this time it's Rey grimacing

Daisy said that Finn and Poe are her friends.

reylo is guaranteed for tros, because kylo isn't going to be the final bad guy boss fight. they've already fought several times and it's too played out. only way you can develop kylo's character is to have him mellow out and team up with rey because he found out about palpatine manipulating his grandfather like a bitch, and he doesn't want to be manipulated like a bitch too. reylo confirmed with facts and logic, it's the only thing they can do with him that isn't boring or dumb.

Palpatine's ghost or whatever is cackling "gooood" as they are fighting, and he gets btfo'd by kylo changing his mind.

Finn has already been claimed by Rose, that romance is bound to blossom.

sure thing m8

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Honestly though, we all know she is saving her lips for Ben Solo. He's so dreamy~

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All of them.

>unironic faggot shippers exist on Yea Forums
Every single one of you is retarded and I look forward to seeing you disappointed come December.

Name one

So did Disney.

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reylo will elevate tros and with it the whole trilogy

Daisy said Finn and Poe are Rey's friends and that Reylo fans will be happy.

What part of that makes him shoot up his school?

And you dear boy is her enemy. Friends can and will turn into lovers, when together Finn and Rey kill your fav boy. Can't wait to hear you all cry

I love how they went out of their way to hammer in everyone's heads that Finn and Rey are only friends and even gave Poe a love interest in Zorri so retards would stop trying to ship her with anyone who isn't Ben.

every other question during promotion is about reylo or kylo.

Based söybrain. Stop being delusional.

>believing PR lies
>giving a shit about fictional pew pew characters shallow relationships
Autism. Pure autism.

Rose is antiblack, whole movie she was fucking abusive toward him. She is also a manipulative bitch, Finn didn't kiss her back, he is in love with Rey! so JJ will bring TFA Finnrey romance as he
planned them to be new Han and Leia, he even said it in movie commentary. JJ will retcon Ruin Johnsons work, in December you will see passionate kiss between Finn and Rey.

how dumb are you? kylo ren is the only thing holding this shitshow up at this point. your boy is an irrelevamt joke character and should have died in TLJ. he will never matter.

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Kylo is her enemy, but she still wants to fuck him and is in love with him. She even told Finn to fuck off because he's such a beta. She doesn't even respect him to get anything done. Kylo is the only man who can match her.

I hope this faggot is for real. Fucking hilarious. These are your voters people.

Exactly it's all PR, Daisy hates reylo, she said so honestly, she called john after reading a script, I'm sure Finn and Rey will be together. Marketing is just blinding this idiot, but I will have a last laugh.

Reylo is happening, deal with it.

OMG I LUV FINN AND REY THEY ARE THE BEST

She hates is because she is salty about Adam. In any case, the mouse straightened her out

>she still wants to fuck him and is in love with him.
Stop projecting disgusting slut, if you want to fuck that goblin go fuck yourself.
Rey is a rolemodel for young girl, you really think Disney will pair her up with patricidal nazi? Fuck off with your delusions cunt.

John wasn't even on set for Dark Rey because he's so irrelevant. Your precious John even revealed that Kylo and Rey have a lot of scenes he's not in. The trailers hows Rey telling Finn to fuck off so she can go alone, probably to meet Kylo her boyfriend. Stay cucked. Daisy said Reylo fans will be happy and see Kylo onscreen and that people will bes satisfied.

Yup. Rian Johnson's trilogy will star Rey and Finn's daughter.

>patricidal nazi
Every thread.

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You guys are really retarded right? She meant seeing that goblin in it, she dodged the question.

You don't realize if your reylo was happening she wouldn't say you have to wait for a movie, it would be a huge spoiler and before that she wouldn't have used words TOXIC and ABUSE while saying that "NO, I CAN'T GET BEHIND IT, NO" get recked fucking reyloosers, your tears will be delicious!

Have you been diagnosed with autism? I'm genuinely asking. How can you not pick up the romantic vibes with Rey and Kylo?

John wasn't there because it's just a vision you dumb cunt.
>Daisy said Reylo fans will be happy and see Kylo onscreen
Exactly! she called you thirsty sluts out, you want Rey with Kylo because you project your dumb selfs into her, she meant that you will at last see them on screen, yes darling you will se how Finn and Rey end your dear boy.

Reylo is one of the few things that can get people into the theater. You get that right? Dark Rey was another. Why else would they have revealed it? And even if it doesn't happen, Finn and Rey would never fucking happen kek.

>it's just a vision you dumb cunt
Obviously. What does that have to do with i?

Daisy Ridley isn't going to fuck you and she's a boring bitch white girl, get a better celebrity to obsess over.

I'm not misogynistic cunt with brain damage or racist to want FIRST female protagonist to end up with white supremacist instead of FIRST black man lead, who has ever never hurt her. Check your brain retard.

>muh kweeen Daisy

Imagine obsessing over a priveleged, fake woke white girl who comes from a rich family and pretending you care about minorities.

You obsesse over a privileged white girl who will never know you exist and treat her like she is a prized trophy, you are the epitome of a misogynist. You only care about Finn because he's black, which makes you racist.

I don't want anything, I was just asking.

i can't live vicariously thinking about the fictional negro character fucking though, but I can with the emo jew

face it anti-reylo degens, that "leak" from the official site was faked to throw people off the scent. Rey turns dark size to be with kylo, after they both realize palpatine is based. they don't design a new gimicky lightsaber for a vision or dream.

mfw it's obvious.

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I know right. So many bigots around here.

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>Reylo is one of the few things that can get people into the theater.
Only braindead thirsty 30 years old single moms, people don't want it nor redemption arc.
People want to see an important diverse couple on scree in such a big franchise, you idiots want everything to be about schoolshoter analog white incel, fuck off.

samefag stirring the pot.

People on twitter may care about that but they will not be buying tickets.

No woman wants to see Rey get with fat, ugly manlet like Finn especially when there is a tall, beautiful Chad like Kylo she could be fucking instead.

The only people who want to see Finn and Rey together are mentally ill SJW who hate men anyway and ugly cucked men like you who put Rey on a pedestal like the beta cucks you are.

school shooter makes pussies wet, not your ugly fat self insert.

Don't you fucking dare associate me with this disgusting racist cunts.

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Disney cares about publicity, they will care about feedback, and they know your disgusting ship means people will call them out and drag them into dirt. They may play with your expectations but your fave will die and rot.

you must be insincerely trolling because no one wants to see a pretty white actress forced to kiss a black man in a film that is meant to be mass market and family friendly.

Imagine worshiping a privileged white girl and calling anyone else a racist.

>No woman wants to see Rey get with fat, ugly manlet like Finn especially when there is a tall, beautiful Chad like Kylo she could be fucking instead.
You are just a disgusting racist, be this brave on twitter if you think you are right. People will find you and beat you retarded ass, disgusting cunt.

>shit on the Asian female, going so far as to call her anti black
>worship the white privileged girl instead she can do no wrong she is our champion teehee
>u is rayciss

kek

I'm not worried.

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i'm simply saying not everyone is yet progressive enough to accept bestiality just yet, it's very controversial and you know it. A big company like disney has to play it safe after The Las Jedi. Yet they can't have a script without any romance yet again, so Reylo is the solution.

Says the racist who worships priveleged white girl and only cares about her as a piece of meat trophy for you nice guy incel black man making you a misogynist too.

It's a different time you racist, all other Disney princess films brought diversity. People are mad Finn is sidelined and white schoolshotter is perceived as protagonist by some dumb cunts.
Rey is a role model for little girls, what is a better massage than falling in love with your best friend aka Finn, and killing manipulative nazi who is trying to ruin your life? You really can't see such a simple themes?

She never said any of these things, retard. Watch that interview. She says other people think it's toxic and she can't get behind it now because he's still an asshole but maybe there's redemption in the movie.

Disney doesn't care about minorities, you dumb fucking cunt. Hollywood doesn't care, either. Reylo is popular and what people want to see, no one wants to see fat ugly Finn.

>worship the white privileged girl
Rey is not privileged, she raised herself on a fucking desert, only privileged character is your dear white boy

PRIVILEGED

WHITE

GIRL

WORSHIP

Here's your love interest bro. Yeah right kek.

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who's to say rey won't remain an incel like luke.

#womencanbeincelstoo

Based George finna Sheev on dem disniggers

If it was "canon" in the end of the movie, she would have never, NEVER used these words in the same sentence, but she did, so get recked fucking reylooser.

She's a skinny white woman and so is her actress. She comes from a rich family and landed one of the biggest roles right off the bat in her career, it doesn't get more priveleged than that. And Rey is a human being, not a pussy chamber for your disgusting ugly looking manlet fave to stick his dick in so you can pretend you care about black people.

Do you think if you worship white women harder it will somehow help minorities?

Fuck off racist pigs, I hope you will think about seppoku when you fave boy ends up beheaded by Finn and Rey.

>Gary Stu
The term is Mary Sue, you fucking silly Pajeet.

I hope you realize that Daisy and Rey aren't minorities one day. Maybe your mental illness made you color blind too kek

Funny that you have no actual response reylooser. As expected from retard like you.

>Snoke
>Sith
Absolute lorelet. Confirmed small guy.

>being this retarded and new

>Rey has to spread her legs for the black guy, it's her only purpose

Totally not misogynistic at all and totally not treating women like trophies.

>white women will save us from oppression, who cares about those pesky asian women they don't count because they can't be used as pussy trophies

just lol

Daisy has talent, that's why she got casted, you believe someone would give her this role for money? Fuck off retard. Rey is not but your fave boy is walking white privilege

This thread is fucking hilarious.

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George knew he was Sheeving Disney cucks

>wants the jew killed off
spotted the anti-semite