Is this the most underrated Bond movie?

Doesn't it hurt like a bitch walking barefoot on all those small rocks, in a hot desert at that? I can't even walk barefoot on a rocky beach, it's torture.

This and the editing is horrible.

What was so bad about it? Doesn't he just learn that the bad guy drank machine oil in the desert and say "good"?

For Your Eyes Only, and it's not even close.

Overrated due to le 90s kids and nintendo game

>Goldeneye
>Overrated

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Yes but are likely not in most people's top 5

What's the best golden era Bond movie, though? Always wanted to get into that, but never knew where to begin. Should I just watch them chronologically?

>craig
>bond

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It's a 3rd-rate Borne knockoff rewritten to be a Bond movie

Everyone loves OHMSS. How can you think its underrated?

Small stakes, awful villain.

Watch one of each Bond actor chronologically then decide which era you wanna see more of

Casino Royale is a great start

Never Say Never Again my dude

Goldfinger is probably the most "classic" Bond. Dr. No is the first one but a lot of the series staples were not yet established. You basically can't go wrong with any of the golden era Bond movies except maybe Thunderball which is just alright.

Yes, incredibly. Too much padding, plot more retarded than usual, terrible henchmen.

It's the most overrated by people that want to come off intellectual in a discussion about bond movies

All the Connery ones except for the last are good. You'll get differing opinions on which is best. Most would probably say Goldfinger but for me it's Dr. No

For Roger Moore it's The Spy Who Loved Me. That's the quintessential Bond movie IMO

Interesting fact: the secondary Bond girl from Moonraker was in French BDSM porn.

When this was the "villain" and "Henchman" (if you can call it that) they greenlighted for this. It was bound for failure, and it was. MGM went nearly bankrupt after 2008.

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Go on

The only point that might hold some weight is the last one. But even then Xenia still holds her own against the other henchmen in the franchise and General Ourumov is great.

quantum of mogged

Basically this
Here's my 007 starter pack:
>Sean Connery - Goldfinger
>George Lazenby - On Her Majesty's Secret Service (it's the only one)
>Roger Moore - Live and Let Die
>Timothy Dalton - The Living Daylights
>Pierce Brosnan - Goldeneye
>Daniel Craig - Casino Royale

From Russia With Love is the one that is most often called the best of them all. Even if it came before the Bond tropes were fully crystallised (that happened in Goldfinger), so it may not feel entirely Bond to someone who's very familiar with the later instalments.

that blonde girl in the first part is so fuckin hot

This. Patrician selection.

>lmao evul rusky
So great, such depth. 10/10

Yea Forums can bitch and moan about Craig like its perpetually 2005, but it can't be denied that Casino Royale is objectively the most kino bond movie.

You must be new to Bond.

The blonde girl?

Well. At least I agree with Lazenby.

It's a good movie, but it's not a good bond movie.

good selection.

Such an intelligent argument, you must be the writer for Goldeneye

Casino Royale is a great movie but it isn't really a Bond movie; it doesn't follow the Bond formula. The rest of Craigbond is shit.

Ursula Andress?

Personally I would pick From Russia With Love to represent Connery's era, but since it's technically a sequel to Dr. No there are some things that carry over that might confuse a newcomer.

If looking for villain henchmen with "depth" you are in the wrong franchise.

Not even the most kino Craig. That would be Skyfall. (Skyfall is also the best Craig for watching alone because it's not a part of the reboot's overarching story arc that they tacked on)

Thought you were talking about quantum

Same as Dr. No, a lot of the bond staples were not yet established in From Russia With Love. It wasn't until Goldfinger that true, classic, golden era Bond was born.

If you wanna get into Bond movies you simply have to start with Dr. No

I'm looking for a villain that's cool.

Skyfall is shit zoomer trash, what a waste of digits.

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I'm just taking a guess, Quantum has no blondes.

Very nice, user.

Yeah but Dr. No probably had the most archetypal Bond villain and lair until YOLT. The only thing it didn't really have was the gadgets, but in some ways it was more Bond than FRWL and GF

The bond formula is what almost killed the franchise. It was getting stale and goofy spoofs like Austin Powers had turned it into a joke for millions of moviegoers, to say nothing of the later Brosnan movies that had turned into self-parody. Besides, as a sorta prequel the whole point of the movie was to show Bond before he got his mojo and the "formula" wasn't set in stone yet.

Casino Royale set a nice action standard, and told how Bond got his gig.

Quantum of Solace followed that up by being the only sequel, and showing how Bond became who he is.

People who hate on QoS are mad it didn't have enough action. "I can't remember what the evil plot was" they say.

The Evil Plot in Casino Royale that they loved? It was to blow up the plane, and he failed in the first act. The rest of his 'evil plan' was to win a poker game.

They will complain that QoS had some awkward dialogue or plot point that was a hole. Ok, go take that same lens to all of the rest of them.

tl;dr - people who hate QoS are small brained popcorn flick lovers who can't appreciate character development

Spectre and Skyfall were fucking terrible btw

Considering most bond films are either (a) dogshit or (b) overrated, yes

Then why the fuck are you talking about henchmen you goalpost moving sperg.

Connery: From Russia With Love
Moore: The Spy Who Loved Me
Dalton: License to Kill (and it's also the best of the whole series)
Brosnan: GoldenEye
Craig: Skyfall

Because henchmen are also villains
>sperg
that's funny from someone who hangs onto semantics

It was during the french villains period in Hollywood which explains why they chose Mathieu Almaric.

It took a couple decades for the formula to get stale like that. When people go asking for a taste of classic Connery Bond they are wanting the stuff that is Goldfinger and later, so if you are just gonna watch one it should be one of those.

Based
I still believe The Living Daylights is the best one at the end of the day.

Why does this board have such shit taste in Bond movies? Every 007 thread is just a competition to out-contrary each other.

>Sean Connery - You Only Live Twice
>George Lazenby - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>Roger Moore - Moonraker
>Timothy Dalton - License to Kill
>Pierce Brosnan - Tomorrow Never Dies
>Daniel Craig - Casino Royale (I hate them all)

That's funny, considering that every other poster has different preferences and every movie would find some defender.

Henchmen are not the villain. Stop trying to save your retarded statements by trying to change your original arguments.

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Mr. White was the main villain, Greene was just an operative of Quantum.

>The only thing it didn't really have was the gadgets
Which was mainly done because Bond was in his early stages as 007 here, and I believe Dr. No gets a pass for the lack of gadgets because it has the iconic moment where Q gives him the Walther PPK replacing the Baretta.

>the
And you stop twisting my words because you have nothing to say.

But Hugo Drax was french and he was kino

you thought bond was facing down the illuminati and it just ends up running around in that dumb office building in the desert.

Yes, what the fuck was that building? It looks like some kind of a hotel, but it's apparently powered by a nuclear reactor?

Also the general

>I'm looking for a villain that's cool.
>a villain
>a (singular)
Get the fuck out of here kike.

I'd say Goldfinger and YOLT are the most quintessential of the golden era. One establishes the formula and the other takes it to its extreme. From Russia with Love is great if you want to see a pretty faithful adaptation of a Fleming novel.

It's not actually faithful at all - to the point where the original scriptwriter complained that her script (which was faithful to the book) was rewritten to the point of being unrecognisable.

Goldfinger, while beloved, is the weakest film for the character of Bond. He falls behind everything the whole time and doesn't actually do much at all to stop the villain. Turning Pussy straight, while a high order of magnitude, is pretty much all he accomplished.

She's not even a lesbian in the movie, just evil.

That's fair. He fucked the evil out of her.

I copied another user's list and modified it a bit. My current take on the franchise:

007 Tier
>Dr. No
>From Russia With Love
>Goldfinger
>The Spy Who Loved Me
>OHMSS
>Licence To Kill
>Casino Royale (2006)
>Goldeneye

Quartermaster Tier
>You Only Live Twice
>Live and Let Die
>The Living Daylights
>Thunderball

Average Tier
>Skyfall
>Man With the Golden Gun
>For Your Eyes Only
>World is Not Enough

Camp/Fun/Shit Tier
>Diamonds are Forever
>Moonraker
>Octopussy
>View to A Kill
>Quantum of Solace
>Tomorrow Never Dies

Just Shit Tier
>Spectre

Die Another Day Tier
>Die Another Day

Tomorrow Never Dies is the most underrated Bond movie. I keep hearing about "pandering to China", but... China is not even in the movie, aside from the Chinese agent Wei Lin. Who is extremely cool and one of the better Bond girls. Elliot Carver is a great hammy villain (as expected from Pryce). The evil plan is a nice reference to You Only Live Twice and The Spy Who Loved Me. The escape from Carver's tower is one of the greatest chase sequences in the series. All in all, fucking fantastic. I don't understand why it doesn't get the accolades it deserves. I have to conclude that a lot of people are just sinophobic (although there is no pandering to China!).

Never watched Die another day but is it really that bad?

Fun hater's dull list.

No, it's not significantly worse than the other Brosnan movies (though perhaps is the weakest of them all because of outdated CGI overdose). Gustav Graves is a great arrogant villain and the ice hotel was kino.

I should probably remove the Shit Tier part from the Camp / Fun list. Anything in that portion is enjoyable to me and I don't look down on it. Spectre is really the only one I dislike. Die Another Day is a terrible movie but, like View To A Kill, it has a certain charm. It's just a worse movie over all.

Olga was such a qt

first 40 min are great. starts dropping off when halle berry shows up and it's all over by the ice palace. worth a watch for novelty

No, he wasn't. He was barely on-screen in QoS. The main villain in a Bond film is usually the one that confronts Bond in the climax which is what Greene did. So, therefore, he was the main villain and a boring one at that. We're not talking in-movie ranks here of the organization.

If you go into it as an ultra campy / over the top action movie then it's at least watchable. I'd be hard pressed to ever go out of my way to watch it unless I'm marathoning a handful of movies at a time.

Quantum is legitimately awful.

If there's one that's underrated it's probably a film with Lazenby or Dalton.

I'd say its Brosnan's more enjoyable one, though I also like TND more than most too

>complained
>her

There's your answer. The plot's virtually identical.

There's nothing wrong with the ice palace, in fact, it's a great setting.

it's OK, both skyfall and spectre were worse but it's still nowhere near casino royale
craig bond films are not that good overall

>A Bond movie where (((Mass Media))) is the villain
>panned and forgotten

Shocking.

The scene where Bond does a HALO jump that transitions into a deep sea dive into a sunken ship is one of my favorites from the series. That would be such a cool thing to do.

Almost completely patrician, but the best Dalton one is License to Kill

SPECTRE and everything to do with it were not in the book, at all. It adapts the basic storyline of the book, unlike most of the other adaptations, but the faithfulness ends there. It's an original work.

The best Moore one is The Spy Who Loved Me, it's objective.

Quantum had tons of potential, but the pacing was horrible and didn’t have a memorable villain, and that’s what ruined it for almost everyone.

It had:

>true follow up and closure to the Casino Royale plot
>actual character growth for Bond
>a realistic conspiracy plot that didn’t fall to Spectre’s meme-tier villain

Everything up until immediately after the opera scene was great. M telling Bond the henchman he threw off a roof was a member of Special Branch upped the stakes: It’s not just a plot to overthrow MI6, these dudes have people EVERYWHERE.

Buttttt then the movie fucks off to South America for almost 2 hours and it’s hard to give a fuck then.

Most of the Spectre plots were more realistic than bottling up every source of water for an entire country, and all that under the government's nose.

The virgin Greene:
>control the water supply in a part of a third world country
The chad Drax
>destroy the entire human civilisation

The incel Dr. kananga: sell some crack

In Bolivia? With the off-the-books approval of the CIA?

Cmon dude. We’ve propped up dictators in Southern American countries IRL for less.

The revival of SPECTRE was fucking bad, though. Quantum is a much better revival of a worldwide evil conspiracy than the version of SPECTRE that showed up in Spectre. Quantum, the organization, is what a global conspiracy would actually look like in the modern world. It felt believable and unsettling, which is what SPECTRE used to feel like back in the days of the Cold War. The SPECTRE that shows up in Spectre is just cartoonish.

>Buttttt then the movie fucks off to South America for almost 2 hours
the whole movie is 1.5 hours

TFW Alec Trevelyan wanted to use an EMP to send London back to the Stone Age.

25 years later, Sharia Law is doing it for real.

Well I blame the pacing, because it felt like 3

These

Spectre and Quantum are the same thing...

Yup, you did in Chile and in Argentina. I thought QoS was pretty much ok in terms of realism. As much you burgers like to shit on this bond flick

>americans are shown as evil
>burgers hate it
Such a shock

Absolutely under-rated, yes. It cops a lot of flak, unfairly. It's not the best Bond film, but not as bad as everyone says.

but the french guy was the evil one

meh, You are almost always shown as evil. Hollywood hates you more than the rest of the world. And QoS was pretty tame.

I think he wasn't supposed to be French in-universe

kek

Fucking let the brits do it to themselves

How has there been this many posts without based Olga

White + Asian women are the true master race

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Olga in Hitman made me literally DESTROY my dick holy fuck

She literally perfect

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What the fuck? She's 100% white.

based olgaposta

She's eurasian clearly you dumbfuck, Ukranian women often have mongoloid genes in them because of regional proximity. She's literally the perfect blend of the hottest white and chinese chick you can imagine

if i had to guess from a glance
"trying to be realistic" is fucking boring considering bond's history

>Ukranian women often have mongoloid genes in them because of regional proximity

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yeah she was an early celeb crush for me due to hitman then bond. the most based goto russian prostitute of the late 2000s

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Moonraker is not

No its fucking dumb no one cares about brazilian eco terrorists and poor towns without water in a 007 movie

>film scholar James Monaco designated the film a "minor masterpiece" and declared it the best Bond film of them all.
etc, etc

Where did you notice Brazilian ecoterrorists?

Who is this fucking film scholar and why the FUCK did he like Moonraker so much?

The Man with the Golden Gun, followed by A View to a Kill.

I agree, I always liked that one.

My nigga. View to a Kill is great.

for what he's worth, Rob Ager says moonraker is one of his favorite scifi movies

Agreed, it's everything I love about Goldfinger without everything I hated about it. The San Francisco part is incredible fun, the beginning with the Chateau drags but is still comfy. I especially love the scene where Zorin just massacres his own miners because he doesn't want witnesses.

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As long as Bond drinks shaken martinis, kills evil bad guys, and sleeps with beautiful women, does it really matter who plays him?

What is hour reaction when they cast Henry Cavill as Bond?

As long as he's a he
Wont happen

A question i've been thinking about for a while is, did vesper really love james? I mean it was revealed she was doing all of that stuff for her bf.

No matter how the quality it was, I will never thank this film enough for introducing me to Jack White.

what the fuck is a quantum of solace?

I really liked the theme
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A very tiny amount of solace.
As in, please just give me a bit of solace, I deserve that much at least.