How the FUCK did he manage to rack up 45 grand in debt?
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It was a joke
GET THE FUCK BACK IN YOUR FUCKIN HOLE
He grabbed more boxes of ziti while Tone was sleeping
Ok I had this question the entire time and I don't wanna look it up. Is this robert patrick?
they probably cheated
DAVEY, YOU'RE DOING A GOOD JOB!
IT'S FUCKING STARTING.
Yes.
I WARNED YOU NOT TO TAKE IT OFF ROAD
OH NO
Fucking niggers
Gambling addiction. It's a real disorder having to do with how dopamine fires in some people's brains.
He went to Uni
This
High-stakes game. Frank Sinatra jr, David Lee Roth.
Was I suppose to sympathize with this guy? He literally went out his way to dig his own hole and then stole tens of thousands from Tony.
the little girls reaction when he says it is the best
what is this from
I sure didn't. Jackie did nothing wrong.
I never understood the bust-out. Why not just take a piece of the business instead of bankrupting it? Tony was always concerned with legitimate income sources, he gets to declare income and Davey keeps the store.
Sopranos season 2. Same episode Tony goes to Italy to sell stolen cars.
i part i believe so because he was a victim of predatory nature but he wasnt entirely sympathetic because he fucked over his families future and ultimately did it to himself. The Sopranos had a knack fod writing good nuanced dilemmas ehere neither side was in the wrong.
Alle he needs is a red cap and shades.
WHO ELSE!
The store was in his wife's name. They're destroying his credit.
The store probably wasn't making enough of a profit
I have 100k in debt and I don't even have a mortgage
>Why not just take a piece of the business instead of bankrupting it?
He owed so much it would take years to repay tony and make a profit and him being a gambler it was only a matter of time before he screwed up again
It would take too long.
Holy fuck dude, please tell me you either have a PhD or a european sports car to show for that debt.
easy, a single student loan while not qualifying for gibbs.
Gender Studies?
>C'MON! U WANA FUCK HER?
Don't you dare fucking reminisce with me.
same, I'm 110k in debt after 6 years of school
‘remember when’ is the lowest form of conversation
Not necessarily but you see losers like him are preyed upon by the mafia.
Davey did nothing wrong.
>Tony lets him into card name knowing he's an addict gambler and would end up milking his sportings good store business into bankruptcy
>has to take away his $0yboy sons car when he got it dirty when Davey told him to keep the car clean and be responsible
>wife's fat brother almost bangs Carmella which would have resulted in all of their deaths
Of course he ended up alive and moved to a farm or something to live the true dream.
lmao how do you live? i couldnt sleep one night with that kind of debt
A GROWN MAN MADE A BET
id say he was a victim when tony preyed on his nature but isnt the victim when he continued to fuck his family for his addiction
Loved this guy.
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>How the FUCK did he manage to rack up 45 grand in debt?
Gambling.
Had a relative in quite the similar situation.
i just know i wont pay it off. I'd have to pay about $1800 a month to hit principle. I still live my life normally because even if I dump $10,000 of my savings into paying off loans it wont do shit.
>Of course he ended up alive and moved to a farm or something to live the true dream.
At the graduation he told Tony he was going to work on a ranch in Vegas. When Tony and Meaddow are arguing about Jackie Aprile's death she mentions he's in rehab again for gambling down there.
>Meadow later reveals in "The Telltale Moozadell" that Davey is now "in a mental health facility in Nevada."
What a surprise.
>has gaming problem
>moves to Vegas
What did they mean by this?
GOD FUCK IT ALL
GET THE FUCK BACK IN YOUR FUCKING HOLE!!!!
NOW!!!!!
he already lost everything so there was nothing holding him back anymore. they did mention later that he got committed into a institution or some shit
It really wasn't a hole.
It was a camping tent that was loaded with empty pizza boxes and beer cans.
DID YOU FAGS WATCH THE SHOW
HE SET A MAX ON WHAT HE COULD BID
TONY PASSED OUT WITH HIM WININNG AND WOKE UP TO HIM 45K IN DEBT
oh well in that case
I thought it was boxes of ziti that he lost? Bobby and Vito couldn't eat that much ziti.
Its easy. For me, it was spending credit cards on hotel/hooker/strip club binges for 3 years after my business failed and I went in a spiral. I also owed money to the bank for the loan for said business. Owed around 300k when all was said and done, but almost 100 of that was credit card debt, payday loans and all kinds of asinine bullshit.
I still love hookers though, just gotta stick to one a week. Gambling, hookers and drugs are big pathways to debt.
Thank you
>mr Sinatra
>Junior
>Sir
didnt Bobby Baccaleiri have a different son in the first season??
how did you get out of that debt?
software engineering
nope just a BA and a Mazda3
I make good money so I have no problem making payments
I may even be debt free before I die
There are many examples of Tony seeing seven moves into the future and spotting money opportunities like a vulture (as Artie quite rightly points out to him after he attempts suicide), but I genuinely think he did try and put Davey off getting involved in the executive game.
Davey appeared in the hotel from absolutely nowhere begging Tony to let him get involved. Tony was also genuinely pissed off when he woke up in the middle of the game to find out Davey had loaned loads of 'boxes of ziti' - if Tony had seen all of this coming, you'd assume he'd be glad at Davey owing him as much money as possible.
he coveted his fuckin macaroons and stole his bread an buddah!
he still wasnt good enough for Varsity!
I started another business and succeeded this time. I also bought into a friend's business which did pretty well. I also bought 10 Bitcoin for $20 and sold when they were 11,000 and put it all straight into the debt. I also sold my car and truck for maybe 25k together and went strictly public transit.I also called in every personal loan I'd ever given out which maybe came to 10k. I was obsessive in paying it off. It took maybe 5 years to pay off.
I'm still not rich though since I can't stay away from prostitutes, but I unironically can't think of a better use of the money since I have no wife and kids
Happy for you.
Thanks pal. Lately I've been happy too. I wish you all the best.
>Frank Sinatra jr
mister
easiest way to score decent, clean hookers without running afoul of the law?
OOOOOW
The way Tony treated this guy was disgusting.
I forget. Is this the guy related to the guy wearing the members only jacket at the end of the show.
It was just a stutter step.
But guys like him are his bread and butter
a good friend would have kept their gambling addict friend as far away from the card table as possible
No good davie
>Interest gets tacked on to the principal,you know that.
Why Meadow fucked a black guy? What was the point?
Can't wait for you to kill yourself.
>stuck with janice
Saddest characters in sopranos
The bride eats the cake
The bride eats the cake
Hi-ho the merry-o
The bride eats the cake
Didn't you guys go to school to get a good job? Just pay it off with your $70k+/yr jobs
how does it feel being a retard
>I make good money so I have no problem making payments
that's like saying working in the salt mines isn't a problem because you have a healthy back
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You mean to Tony, or when they were busting out his business? He was gambling for like 24 hours straight, people lose hundreds of thousands of dollars that way once they start putting up collateral and borrowing.
>Vegas OR California?
He wasn't even preyed upon, Tony tried to dissuade him multiple times from entering the game. You could argue it was a really subtle long con but I remember Tony trying to tell him like 3 times to go away and the dude refused.
Crissy says the guys borrowed 40k or something like that while ton was sleeping
Seasons 1 and 2 don't feel like the same show as 3±.
Yeah, he told Silvio Tony gave him the go-ahead, but Tony was asleep.
if it was my friend i wouldnt have let him in at all and told him to seek help
>We lead the world in computerized data collection!
holy fucking shit. Never knew there was this much to it. I'm fascinated
A grown man made a wager, he lost. He made another one, he lost again. End of story.
Some people are retarded with money. One guy I know has 13.5K in credit card debt and he's barely 20
Didn't he end up kysing himself?
That’s nothing, I’m up to $450k. Becoming a doctor in America has got to be the single most expensive career path in the history of the world. To add insult to injury, I’ll have an additional 3 years minimum of residency where I make so little money the interest will far exceed my earnings.
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artie did literally nothing wrong
He was just another victim of Benny Fazio, criminal mastermind.
That's literally every show. The original idea gets commodified, the actors become households and celebrities, and the production value gets upped. Happened to Star Trek TNG, X-Files, etc, etc.
Benny is a good kid
benny, would you like to try a martina? it's like a martini, but its from albania
This is what rackateering originally was. You use the store credit to buy shit then sell that shit at a discount. You keep the difference and never pay the creditors back, allowing the original owner to take the bankruptcy hit from it.
So take that high moral ground and go sleep in the FUCKING BUS STATION if you want
Que c'est qu'est-ce? Message machine broken?
"Could we please lower the air conditioning?"
How green was my fucking valley?
Nancy Marchand dying really changed the entire show as she was supposed to be the series antagonist and with her death there was not enough to make the family side the main focus. Seasons 3+ increasingly focuses on the mob side with a mob character acting as the seasons main antagonist (Jackie Jr., ralphie, johnny sack, phil) to fill in Livias shoes.
I wanna fug Charmaine
i know this was a joke response but thats tonys way of coping with his own shittiness
it was just a sporting goods store, it probably wasn't making much profit. they figured it would take too much time to get their money back so they just ran up credit and sold everything to other people at a discount to make quick money. they do take over businesses sometimes if they consider it worth it, like the bar adriana manages, and the hotel that they turn into half a whore house.
I am just breaking balls
Makes you wonder why Artie would settle for hamburgers when he's got prime ribs at home.
Why did I hear all of this in Tony's voice
Then why was Richie the antagonist of season 2?
Except Janice was the antagonist the way she manipulated Richie
he had tremendous moxie for a man of his stature
because he was merely a one season antagonist much like mikey and jr in s1 and richie was killed before the final episode(id argue big pussy was the main mob antagonist in s2). the 2nd season was building livias threat to tony via the fake airline tickets and testifying. David Chase the creator of Sopranos has said all this it isnt some headcanon of mine.
His life was already fucked before getting into debt with Tony. He already gambled away all his savings, took a 2nd mortgage on the house and just as easily could have sold his sons car and taken the money to Atlantic City. The only thing was the bust out with the business in his wife's name, but she would have divorced him soon anyway so he was screwed with or without the debt to Tony
Hey Hey I saved the world today
Ir*sh genetics, not even once.
Nice
Tony told him multiple times to stay away from the game. Davey showed up out of the blue to beg yet again. Only so many times will somebody like Tony deny the opportunity to make money off someone, I'd hardly call what happened predatory. Why dont you watch the show instead of memeing about it on an anime image board
I didnt hurt nobody
Show always had fantastic ending scenes
this is the greatest show ever....its not a 10/10 because they made Meadow fuck that nignog
>Only so many times will somebody like Tony deny the opportunity to make money off someone
thats kind of the point tony is a shitty person and a shitty friend who doesnt have anyone who geuinely likes him. i have friends and if they had a life destroying issue id do my best to ensure they dont fuck their life up. It seems youre projecting about who watches the show seems like you skipped all the dr melfi scenes because they were "boring"
the one with chris and tony atvthe baptism with evidently chickentown playing was kino
>skipped all the dr melfi scenes because they were "boring"
I watched the Melfi scenes. Did you skip the ones that showed she was full of shit?
>going into half a million in debt to get a job where you need to help minorities and women live longer
>doesnt actually address anything but the jab i threw in at the end
the scenes are about tony revealing his inner workings not melfis opinion on them now its really clear you only watch this show for le mob funnies and memes
In a way, yes. He's a family man who's gone through gambling problems before. Son and wife loved him means he isn't shit.
Still should've known better than to get back to gambling, but it's his addiction.
Yeah it's funny to see how in the final season there was pretty much no family stuff anymore, it was strictly a mob show. Which is good cause season 4 was a real fucking drag and they never figured out what to do with AJ.
What is this, the fucking UN, now?
i only make 55k a year
was
we break more rules than the catholic church
Yeah. That's right. Go home and make my dinner!
He wants to fuck her?
everything that touches that gil's pussy is off-limits
Yeah, I was wondering if that airline ticket trial would be kino.
In any case, 9/11 definitely had an effect too.
I just watched this episode last night.
>How the FUCK did he manage to rack up 45 grand in debt?
Because he's a degenerate gambler and Richie & Tony took advantage.
how the FUCK did a guy that size eat that many boxes of ziti? that plothole was worse than the shit ending tbqh family
>Ay T! Ya destination Arby's, is tree miles to ya right, ya fat fuck!
Even prime rib gets boring when you have it everyday.
I don't think Tony ever viewed the guy as a real friend. Tony views Artie as a friend
Nothing you said addressed his inner workings. The scenes with Melfi in the context of this storyline are of him defending himself. Your throwaway line debunks your own argument.
Tony is a shitty person and no one likes him. That doesn't alleviate others of their own problems. Tony warned him repeatedly to stay away. That wasn't enough, yet he's responsible for the debt the other guy accrued.
But hey, keep watching mob shows so you can tell yourself fairy tales about how great a person you are because you wouldn't do those things.
he mentions that davie and artie were his old high school friends so he puts them at roughly the same level and tony did screw artie over when artie tried to LARP as a mobster in the arminac episode. id argue thats its arties own wisdom (mostly charmaines desu) in not dealing with tony and keeping him at arms length that spares him being eaten alive like davey not that tony views him as a better friend.
I only save white men and any other patients I intentionally misdiagnose.
based and redpilled
what i was saying was that tony very well knowingly took advantage of him and the scenes with melfi reinforce this. the entire show depicts tony struggling between his two natures, with his bad predatory side inevitably winning over with Tony having to create some weak cope excuse to alliviate himself of guilt. he even says that he couldnt resist the temptation to fuck davey over. taking advantage of someone knowing is very much a wrong thing to do and if its an old friend youve known since high school that makes it doubly worse why are you larping as some tough guy and making excuses for a shitty fictional mobster lmaoing at you
Except Tony genuinely tried to help Artie for no other reason than liking him in the earlier seasons, even if he was completely retarded in how he handled it in the end.
He never tries to really help Dave, and we don't see them interacting much outside of their gambling related conversations. Whereas Tony has an actual friendly relationship with Artie, as much as it's possible for him anyway.
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yeah thats a fair point tony did genuinely like artie more. i still believe though that artie only really wasnt devoured was because of his own refusal to deal with tony and i dont think their friendship would have spares tony from wrecking his life like he did daveys.
CHECKERS! The thinking man's game.
I only know this guy from Terminator and here.
This is literally what the entire show is about. It's about Tony thinking he is a nice guy but he has sociopathic muscle memory and genuinely can't see how he is responsible for bad things happening, outside of a few rare instances (that crazy broad killing herself.)
The entire show is just the scorpion and the frog except the scorpion speaks to a scorpion therapist about how the frog was a fucking idiot for offering to give him a ride to begin with, and how the woods used to be better back in the day, and if you think about it, it's not even his fault he stung the frog, and ACTUALLY the frog is the bad guy for even putting him in that position.
He probably did like the Sports Store guy. He liked him as much as he is capable of liking anyone, but with him murder is always around the corner. He almost murdered Paulie, he murdered Chris, whenever he DOESN'T kill someone he acts like he is doing them a favor, regardless if it's sending a loyal veteran back to prison or blowing up his best friend's restaurant. This is him being the "good guy."
His insurance didn't cover accident in lava factory, his doctor bills were through the roof
good post
>tfw you fuck tony's side ho
SPEAK ABOUT DESTRUCTION
Those executive game scenes were kino.
Thank god Prostitution is completely legal in my Country!!!
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is Ramsey Outdoors still around? i use to go there with my dad
He said Tone okay'd it
cool
To be a rebelious intellectual
she fucked he because he was a jew, black just came with the deal
The Sneedpranos
Can anyone explain why she got Employee of the Month'd? After the next season, was it even mentioned again?
once...twice...three times a lady
Take the restaurant.
i think they mentioned it in her personal therapy session again but nothing bit ever came from it
police fucked up the evidence and he was let go and she was too proud to ask a guy like tony to take care of him
Sneedfellas
she wasn't too proud, it's that she didn't want to break the social contract
>and she was too proud to ask a guy like tony to take care of him
No she knew she'd be party to a crime--and would owe Tony a favor.
sopranos was supposed to end with season 3/4 and it was to be the culmination of her arc. The show continued after and to be honest onw of the worst bits is how the show keeps creating circumstances to allow melfi to keep on staying.
>it's that she didn't want to break the social contract
what a retard the guy probably ended up raping more women
We wipe ma tab and i'll asume the guys debt
(formerly the Chuckfather)
The cobwebs are now removed
>We're not looost.
based and ethicspilled
he got ahead early so he kept thinking he was gonna win again
shouldve quit while he was ahead
Yeah, that makes sence
The therapy sessions went from being one of the cores of the show in season 1 to almost procedural in especially seasons 5 and 6.
You can only have so many scenes of "Tony explains away things he's gulty for, but never gets to deep into it which leaves Melfi and the audience both unsatisfied" so many times before Tony actually seems justified in admitting the therapy was useless.
I remember a scene in season 6, I think it's after he murderes Chrissy where he admits to Melfi what he did, but it turns out it was a dream the whole time, and when he really talks with Melfi he doesn't talk about it :/
to rebel against her dad
shit hands
that's false though
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Montenegro has 6 ft average
lmao she was stroking his manlet ego i dont think she was taking factual height measurements into account
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The final season had AJ's suicide which was pretty family centric. I'd also imagine the lack of family plot was due to the soprano kids growing up.
the show was supposed to ultimately be about the Soprano family not the DiMeo crime family however with livias death irl the main focus of tony vs his mom was removed hence the downplaying of the family. meadows story effectively ends in season 3/4, carmelas in 5 once they get back together. AJs lasts the longest because ultimately tony dealing with hia inadequete, unmasculine son was one of the 3 major personal themes David Chase wanted to touch on along with the therapy and mommy issues. You cant really deny the focus on family lessened as the mob focus was increased.
also to add onto this its never been confirmed but its a popular theory that jrs dementia arc was originally meant for livia and was tranplanted to jr after nancy marchands death.
based Eugenicist nazi doctor
If Melfi told tony about it, she'd basically be justifying the existence of the mob. All of her therapy sessions trying to help tony would be for nothing.
in what world is 1 box of ziti worth 1000$? the wire is much better and realistic
not the doctor we deserve but the doctor we need
how do people give you money to start buisnesses if you are already 300k in debt lmao
AND LOST
END OF STORY
>got that mistletoe, two for one!
uhhhhm
Jesus Christ, you're both wrong. It has nothing to do with the practicality of it, it has to do with her accepting that his lifestyle is acceptable and would be encouraging the very thing she is supposed to be against. The entire episode was about her flirting with violence and revenge in a way that was completely alien to her and she could see herself becoming him, even slightly.
She continues to carry that anger with her for the rest of the series, and this |crisis of faith" keeps escalating as she meets with her own therapist.
Check out Fire in the Sky
I guess that could be plausible although it was a perfect and fitting end for Junior anyway.
Not making Junior have dementia would have been a terrible missed opportunity
He had one of the best character arcs of the whole serie tbqh
Good points however I would also say the final season was more focused on the psychology of tony himself rather than the DiMeo crime family.
The season talked about how tony, subconsciously fed up with how his father and uncle pressured him into becoming a criminal lashes out on everyone around him climaxing with tony murdering Christopher.
In that regard I would say it was still family centric thematically, but not in the same way the earlier seasons were family centric as they got less screen time.
agreed jrs arc was kino and it whatever they actually had in store for jr wouldnt have been as good than what we got
I've mentioned this in other threads, and people always disagree with me on this, but my main complaint about Sopranos is it never really developed the characters it had. It kept stuffing in more and more each season and then writing them off, and we never REALLY got as much as we should have about someone like Sil, or even Paulie.
Sil really didn't get an arc at all until the end of the show, and Chris was the focus of the show and Tony for so long but around halfway through they pretty much drop this entirely. It's jarring to see how they just relegated him to the background as the dude who says retarded shit every so often, and he's inconsequential more or less until the last season where he is unceremoniously killed.
They should have given more of the crew attention like they gave Bobby, it just felt like a lot of missed opportunity to me. Same with AJ. I get the theme of "Tony is dealing with his shitty layabout son" but for one of the pillar themes it feels like even his character wasn't fully utilized until the end. It's like in Breaking Bad with Marie's whole shoplifting thing, taken in the grand scheme of things it seems really useless and is never truly resolved.
I always ask this question to people like you: but why? I have friends with a couple hundred gs in debt because they just had to private school for undergrad and took out fat loans to do so. Then they bitch and moan about the decision they made and want Bernie Sanders to fix it for them.
remember kiddies that even gambling requires you not to be brainlet.
He's right you know
Bobby's arc was pretty cool and I indeed wish there would have been more focus on Paulie and Sil.
Sil had some pretty great screen time while Tony was in a coma, would have been really nice to have more of that, some scenes about his daily and personal life, etc.
Honestly the focus on Tony's non mob related issues were often the weakest parts of the show. Not always, but often. Carmella, Meadow and AJ had a fuckton of scenes that were completely inconsequential in the end, no matter how well written their overall arcs were.
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Besides porn threads these are the best threads on tv
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I would disagree about Chris, he had constant development throughout the entire series. Season 5 in particular has some of the best Chris scenes like in "Irregular around the margins"
Paulie had some development in S4 when he was playing both sides with NY and the shit with his mom in the final season, but overall not much.
Sil was pretty much loyal background consigliere for the entire series, but I didn't really have a problem with that personally. I did like that he got some more screentime at the end to showcase his true loyalty to tony.
To be fair, if got didn't completely crumble on itself in its last seasons making the entire story absolutely worthless, it would still be discussed.
But what is there to discuss when the writing went from precise, complete and ambitious to completely destitute as soon as they started running out of source material from the fat fuck. If it had been canceled halfway through it would be hailed as one of the finest tv productions ever.
Sneedsino
Did they?
who was in the wrong
Mr pakusa
Tony basically forgave Artie's debt, did nothing to him for pointing a rifle and threatening to kill him and let him get away with beating the shit out of Benny
Extremely good post.
Tony did nothing wrong. He's a soulja, dey dont go to hell
And because they refused to show us both Meadow's and that D-girl redhead's tits.
best thread on Yea Forums at the moment in a sea of forced meme and disney bullshit
>you'll never hold Charmaine down and fuck those child bearing hips and delicious tits until she passes out with pleasure
feels bad bros
Tomorrow I'll be on time but Sopranos will be great forever
>you will never chainsmoke with Svetlana after missionary sex with sole purpose of procreation
im gonna fuck some kung pao coochie
I see what you're saying but I watched the entire series a month or so ago and there really was some sort of pivot around season 4. Cause early on, he was pretty much the second main character, a LOT of the plot was about him being groomed. And I think once he gets back from rehab or something (I forget what the catalyst was) I just remember you see a lot less of him, and his retarded comments really start to increase. Like he became a caricature of himself. I know for SURE after Adriana dies he is pushed right to the background too. I remember this because once he rats her out they never take time to show the fallout from that, all we get is a single resentful comment from Chris a few episodes later about how Tony owes him.
Gonna give this thread a good old bump.
Well, yes and no. Extortionate protection charges and Shylock loans that lead to bust outs was definitely part of the broad umbrella of racketeering, but racketeering can be broadly summarized as the crime of engaging in organized criminal activity. So cargo theft and fencing, illegal gambling, stealing from union and pension funds, basically all of Tony's illegitimate activities could summarized as rackateering under it's original definition. However, rackateering also covers other crimes that aren't necessarily illegal money making endeavors, like obstruction of justice or obstruction of state or local criminal investigations, or witness tampering. While these acts of obstruction might be done in order to protect illegal money making operations, they aren't strictly illegal businesses in and of themselves, and all of the above are obviously separate from the act of busting out a legitimate business.
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good post
God I hope so, lucky bastard
a-salut!
Every time she talks to Tony, she keeps criticizing his way of life, telling him that he should escape his lifestyle of violence and all that. If she were to ask a favor from Tony, it'd not only make her complicit and down the path of Carm, it'd also undermine all her efforts and values that she's been pushing on to him.
LET ME GIVE YOU 1000 DOLLARS
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In season 5 he took a backseat to Tony B as Tony's favorite cousin, which he comments on frequently throughout the season. He still got plenty of screentime, more so than Meadow and AJ. He and Tony also talk about the fallout with Ade in this scene
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In S6 he still had plenty of scenes and development. However I would say he had less scenes with Tony due to the resentment about Ade. He still had the whole cleaver subplot in S6.
Also Chris was always acting retarded since the beginning of the series.
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Is that really true though? I mean look at this thread, it's full of new insights and interesting opinions and all most threads are just glorified reminiscing. Isn't there some value to be found in a fond memory if it brings a new perspective?
This show is too fucking real for me. I grew up in a family situation similar to Tony's and honestly the emotions and grief are too much for me. Pretty much any episode makes cry.
Honestly Mike's wife sucked shit for not being able to defeat Janice in seducing a sad lonely fat man. A fucking trash can should've been able to defeat Janice in any kind of seduction.
Why do you think AJ was so upset that Olivia wasn't bringing ziti to his party? These Jersey guidos have a special ziti brand they keep to themselves. It's amongst the Italians, real greaseball shit.
He was in the later seasons of x-files.
I think it probably would have involved being tried on RICO charges. They were kind of setting it up with Tony deciding to let Jr have the reigns to act as a "lightning rod" of sorts. Marchand's passing, may she rest in peace a-salut, meant they transplanted an arc onto another character but then gave him a more interesting arc. I think Jr. getting arrested and charged on real greaseball shit would have fit with the themes of the show as well: an old timer trying to do things the only way he knew how and being taken down by an ever changing world that's moved on from the rules of the game he learned when he was younger.
Correct, but the opposite side of the coin is not merely that she was raped, but that she let a rapist go. It's highly likely that he had raped before, and would rape again. She kept her morals, and she lost her morals at the same time. That's why Soprano's is kino, no one in the show makes a completely clean choice.
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Holy hell. Based and hookerpilled. Saved my good lad