The King

he looked like a gay alien

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Joel Edgerton needs more play. Dude is always great.
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Roughly average height back then, women were smaller too, not like today where women are frequently 6ft or more.

redpill me on Henry V, I only know the one that made an entire branch of christianity because he wanted to marry another cunt

Hope we get to see the flower of French nobility getting fucked up by arrows again.

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>Timothee Chalamet
>Robert Pattinson
Looks like they're aiming for the twitter/letterboxd audience with this one

Best Plantagenet King of England

You know there are pictures of him, right?

That's Henry VIII.

Henry V wrecked the French at Agincourt, which completely changed warfare at the time as it was the first instance of peasant archers destroying mounted nobility.

His daddy Henry IV basically stole the throne.

His son Henry VI was absolutely not fit to rule and lost everything his daddy conquered, plus the throne.

>french poof portraying an English King
An absolute outrage

Pattinson is a very good actor and he picks interesting projects. Chalamet is not that great, i don't get the hype around him.

So he was a manlet beta male?
Why would this movie be interesting to me, pray tell?

c-cute

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>but Joel Edgerton as Falstaff is a comically bad choice.

He's the one who wrote the screenplay.

Is he LARPing as Orson Welles?

>Henry V wrecked the French at Agincourt, which completely changed warfare at the time as it was the first instance of peasant archers destroying mounted nobility.

The muddy terrain got them, not the archers and heavy cavalry used to dominate the battlefield centuries after. So what changed?

>whispering

I fucking hate it when movies force you to turn up the volume to hear the dialogue only to have everything else be way too loud.

The arms and armor looks historically accurate. No sword wielding infantry. I like it.

kino
they should cast him in a black prince movie

also when the fuck are we getting a charles the bold movie

Henry VI has to be one of the worst kings alongside John and Edward II

>robert pattenson
Yeah im thinking its based

All that hype about this bland ass actor for nothing. This looks like shit. Dune is doomed
Reminder he is a product of nepotism

>Aidskike
dropped

after we get the Hundred Years War tv kino

yeah dude so dumb, whispers and explosions should be the same exact volume so I don't wake my mommy up in the other room am i rite

dumb fuck zoomer

>people during the middle ages could only whisper and not talk like any other normal person.

Firstly, you just posted a reconstruction of someone who isn't King Henry V, so entirely irrelevant, and he was 16 when he ate an arrow to the face against Welsh rebels, he wouldn't have filled out until later in his life.

Do you think the entire film is nothing but whispering? Are you retarded?

This looks absolutely kino. His accent slays! I smell an Oscar for him.

Are the armors historically accurate? Some /his/ fag tell me.

That was Henry VIII, different bloke.

Henry V is most famous for being one of the kings of the Plantagenet family who whilst being kings of England, also claimed the French throne.

He borrowed a huge amount of money and funded a massive army and sailed to France intending to capture a bunch of towns and force the French to recognise him as King of France (France itself having a weak king at this point). Unfortunately the first town in Northern France he laid siege to held out for most of the campaigning season and by the time it fell it was late in the year and Henry's army had been devastated by disease.

So it wasn't a complete write-off, he decided to take the remnants of his army on a "chevauchée", a terror-raid where they'd ride through France setting fire to wells, raping the cattle and stampeding the women. They did this to highlight how powerless the French king was.

Unfortunately, the French king had one of his frequent bouts of madness and while he was recovering the more competent Constable of France mustered a huge army and set off in pursuit of the small English army, which was by this point mostly barefoot and riddled with dysentry. This turned the raid into more of a sort of Benny Hill chase across Northern France, with the English barely evading the vengeful French on numerous occassions.

Eventually though, just as they were nearing the safety of Calais, the English army was run down and brought to battle near the castle of Azincourt. Luckily for Henry, due to a combination of torrential rain, incompetent Italian mercenaries forgetting their shields, over-eager French knights running down said Italians and a shitload of mud and arrows, the resulting battle wasn't the slaughter of the English everyone expected but actually a spectacular victory.

The French agreed to crown him king when their current one died, but then Henry shuffled off his mortal coil a couple of months before the Frog did so the Hundred Years War carried on.

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I doubt that. Netflix has The Irishman, Marriage Story and The Two Popes to push this year.

And the scar wasn't that large.

With the current trend of we need whispers to make a film look gloomy and gritty? Yes At least 70% of all dialogue will be whispers and mumbles.

The Plantaganets were French. It was a large part of why they were fighting the french.

>me: oh wow this looks like shit
>suddenly robert pattinson

They need Timmy at the Oscar for ratings, he'll be there and nominated

You didn't spot Sean Harris too? He's usually good.

The Hundred Years War was a complete waste of time for the English.

>Firstly, you just posted a reconstruction of someone who isn't King Henry V, so entirely irrelevant
"Firstly", you dribbling pedant, I posted this to support the assertion that warriors of the time weren't delicate little fairies, so it is entirely relevent, which you'd know if you'd read the post instead of just rushing to shitpost.
>he wouldn't have filled out until later in his life.
Henry V was 27 when he was crowned, 6' 3" and had been fighting since his teens, this movie is about him as king you oxygen thief.

>But when his tyrannical father dies
>tyrannical father
>Henry IV
I'm not liking where they might be going with this.

I'm no transgender commie from /his/, but here is my opinion.
They are historically accurate but very slightly anachronistic, I think. Full plate came arround like 1420, so the depiction is off only by a few years

Weren't English armies made up primarily of longbowmen? Didn't see a single one in the trailer. Just a bunch of knights.

at this time most of the English nobility descended from and spoke Norman French anyway

Blah blah blah blah blah. Give me any evidence that Henry V was built like a brick shit house, because contemporary depictions of him certainly don't do it. Yeah he wasn't built like a little bitch like the actor in this film, but he wasn't huge, retard. Fucking moron, try me you fucking idiot see what happens.

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We made a killing on ransoms, captured their king at Poitiers and that kept the state coffers filled for the next forty years. Arguably key to the development of the modern English identity too, since without the loss of their French lands, our Norman overlords would have continued thinking of themselves as pseudo-French conquerers rather than native English.

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Listen mate, if I want your shit opinion I'll ask your boyfriend to remove his cock from your mouth so you can type properly, as it is you're just spewing nonsense so kindly do one and shut the fuck up.

did they really need to go with a jew? i know plenty of guys who look just like him and aren't jewish

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He wasn't last year. He won't be this year. It will be DiCaprio, Driver, Jordan, De Niro, Banderas, Pryce, Pitt, Phoenix, Sandler, Ruffalo, Norton. Some combination of these people.

>henry cavill
>Ethnicity: English, Irish, some Scottish

nice try, frog.

Cool, thanks.

Usually at least 2/3 of the army, yeah. Shakespeare started the tradition of depicting it as more of a 1:1 knightly contest of honour, presumably because a bunch of illiterate plebs standing on the far side of a muddy field, riddling French noblemen with arrows as they flounder in the mud isn't a particularly stirring heroic image.

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Yeah this is kino. I can always sense these things and I'm never wrong about it.

By the 15th century even the Normans didn't speak Norman French.

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>raping the cattle and stampeding the women
kek

KINO IS BACK IN THE MENU BOYS

Other times you've predicted kino?

Fair points actually. Consider me corrected.

>.gif

What is this, 1999?

>the emotional strings of his past life —
>including his relationship with his closest friend and mentor, the ageing alcoholic knight, John Falstaff
Is this gay kino?

Also can someone tldr King Henry he's portraying? Henry 8th is the one who had many divorces right? Which Henry is he and why does he get a movie?

share webm, I'm doing what I can

Can you make one on the 1:06 mark where the catapults light him up

Henry V was an infamous drunk and womaniser in his younger years so if they make him gay they'll be shitting on any accuracy.

>Also can someone tldr King Henry he's portraying?

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>Is this gay kino?
There were a few homo Kings and Queens, but he wasn't one of them

I hope it's better than Outlaw King. That was decent but still disappointing for some reason.

>Early life: "dude lmao look at me I'm a party boy"
>Later life: "shit I'm king. Time to sober up and go fuck the french"
>He fucked the french and became heir to the French throne
>Dies two years later and his infant son loses all of the French territories he gained and then later his throne to a cousin

Thank fuck, realistic (if a bit dated for the 15th century) armour. God be praised, it is a miracle, not a scrap of weird biker leather in sight.

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Chernobyl, Waco, Son of the Mask

>women are frequently 6ft
No they're fucking not. 5'8 is like tall for a women now, and even thats rare. Most are like 5'5-6

the description makes it look like he had a relationship with his closest friend and advisor. maybe they won't stay faithful and gay him up on this one?

how did the frogs lose when they had more men?

ty. Also when is this film coming on Netflix?

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that was genuinely tall back then retard.

>how did the frogs lose when they had more men?
Because the retards got trapped by the English and were massacred by 1000s of Longbowmen. And trust me, Longbows are fucking deadly.

Looks good though I regret reading the comments

> Muh Dark Camera filter
fucking faggot cocksuckers

>infant son
Henry VI was 28 when open war broke out with France again and in his thirties by the time we lost everything except Calais, the problem wasn't that he was an infant it that he was a notorious pussy who just did everything his (French) wife told him to do.

Then he went mad to cap it all off. Probably one of our all time worst kings at least until King Charles III takes the throne

That and hammers to a two tonne Tin man on his back in the mud.

I was oversimplifying it.

Dunno where you live mate, I'm 6'2 and at least half the women in my area are only a few inches below me without heels.

I'd say 5'10 - 5'11 is the new average for women.

This looks fucking kino. When I saw Pattinson I was sold.

Amen. If I recall it was basically a swamp too, so all the fuckers were stuck and just got trashed on.

>how did the frogs lose when they had more men?

"a combination of torrential rain, incompetent Italian mercenaries forgetting their shields, over-eager French knights running down said Italians and a shitload of mud and arrows"

UK. Where the fuck do you live? Holland or Sweden? I've only ever seen two women over 5'9 in my life. I wish I could get a 6ft kino women though for my 5'7 ass. Lucky man where you live.

He should play Griffith in Berserk adaptation. Not by Netflix

Men back then were either twinks or fat. This notion that men in olden times were bigger and stronger is fiction.

> This notion that men in olden times were bigger and stronger is fiction.
t. DYEL numale

SUCK IT

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>when is this film coming on Netflix?
Don't know, it premieres at the Venice Film Festival on September 2

If it's stays true to the Shakespeare material, it should at least be decent

They were shorter yes, but I wouldn't say they were weaklings. War was more common, work was hard etc. They were pretty good, even by todays standards.

>bran stark solo film
cool

>incompetent Italian mercenaries forgetting their shields
seriously?
>over-eager French knights running down said Italians
the italians were on the british side?

ok so this goes pretty much against PJ's The Joker so it won't win.

Why doesn't Netflix give us a cute King Arthur who just wants to eat and be a cute girl but has to be king instead?

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excellent post

He was royalty he had access to good food he was definitely built compared to the malnourished peasants of the time

Junketsu no Maria, the best underrated anime of whatever year it was released.

"Henry was described as having been "very tall (6ft 3 in), slim, with dark hair cropped in a ring above the ears, and clean-shaven". His complexion was ruddy, the face lean with a prominent and pointed nose. Depending on his mood, his eyes "flashed from the mildness of a dove's to the brilliance of a lion's"."

FER SHER A RUGBY PLAYER BRO

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>the italians were on the british side
No, the Knights run over their own men.

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They were factually weaker. Less muscle and weaker muscles. Also, it's a fiction that they worked harder back then. Things were harder back then, but the people didn't actually work harder or longer. When the concept of a 40-hour work week was introduced in Europe is was scoffed at as ludicrous. They were never accustomed to working all day unless they were farmers.

The King is out of competition and Joker won't win anything with Lucrecia Martel as the jury president. Maybe, maybe Joaquin has a shot at the best actor award but i doubt that. Lucrecia has highbrow taste and unless the rest of jury loves it, it won't win anything.

We can thank capitalism for those 40 hour work weeks. Shame there's no good alternative yet. However, places like France have done well to limit it. In fucking Bong land, we fags seem content to work 60 hours a week.

YAAAS!!! it's got the trademark blue-green Netflix™ filter!

obsessed

Sir Robert Pattinson when?

It was far worse during the industrial revolution. Getting it down to 40 with weekends was a victory for labor unions.

It's kind of ridiculous really. There's no *need* for that much work--just an expectation of it.

english longbowmen were extremely OP and were the equivalent of modern artillery

Wait - not a single nigger in frame? Wake me up, is this real????

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why do blacks force themselves into these stupid ahistorical roles

>Netflix
>white make lead
Did I wake up in bizarro world?

what makes longbows powerful? is it the bow or the bowman? did the english longbowmen have max str and dex? how do they compare to the mongolian archers?

Edwards I and III would have a word with you

Of course they werent weaklings, but they worked, look at guys working in some shitty factories where they have to lift shit for 12h a day, they look nothing like gym rats sipping on strawberry flavoured protein shake and complementing glutes of other men.

>incompetent Italian mercenaries forgetting their shields
>over-eager French knights running down said Italians
>seriously?
Sorry, you should ignore all that, I'm confusing Crécy with Azincourt, my bad. No Italians were harmed in the making of Henry V.

What's going to distinguish this from Outlaw King? I mean, it looks good. But there's nothing to really make it stand out.

>netflix
>it actually looks pretty kino

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The Longbow is very true to its name. It's always taller than the bowman. If you're 6ft, you bow has got to be at least 6'3. The'yre much larger than other bows, so they have a lot of power. They're really brilliant.

Outlaw King was ahistorical romantic tripe while this looks more loyal to history and it's shakespeare.

>Outlaw King
Well this film is about an English king killing Frenchies. Whereas Outlaw was about Scots btfoing an English king. Plus, if we're lucky, we get to see the kino of the Battle Of Agincourt.

It's called atmosphere dipshit. It's like you don't even watch Malick

Never seen a movie with him. What are some essential kinos he starred in?

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there is no black person there you schizo

>Outlaw King was ahistorical romantic tripe while this looks more loyal to history
Outlaw king was pretty /his/ desu

>Kick Ass

based blind retard

Gaykino

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Literally not a single one of his past films is an "essential kino", he's only stepping up to such projects now.

Probably will be some niggers in this. I'm not getting my hopes up from the trailer alone that we're nigger-free.

>lost his throne to a cousin
based Edward IVth biggest chad to ever sit the throne

>english royalty
i like seeing medieval drama as much as the next guy but the focus on england is getting boring as fuck. if you wanna do the middle ages, gimme france, the hre, spain or italy.
it's always the same shit.

not a single one credited
imdb.com/title/tt7984766/fullcredits?ref_=tt_cl_sm#cast

unearthed skeletons of english longbowman have been found to have one arm giant and malformed and the other normal because of how their training was. they practice the bow since an early age and like the other user said their bows were 6 ft+ and can shoot up to 2km. they were like the delta force of the middle ages the most elite ranged fighters of the medieval wra

Henry VIth was also genuinely insane and prone to sezuires and schizophrenic attacks its amazing he lived until 50 before being usurped

>what makes longbows powerful?
The bowman. English warbows were just self-bows, they use a construction method that has been around since the Neolithic, they're a single piece of wood. You can make a bow too powerful for a man to draw quite easily, the Chinese used them as siege weapons and crossbows work on the same principle.

The power of the warbow was in the archer, archers in England (and Wales) trained from childhood and were able to draw very powerful bows. Skeletons of known archers from the period are deformed around the wrists and shoulders, similar to the skeletons of modern strength athletes. That saying of the time was that to train an archer, you needed to begin with his grandfather.

That said, the warbow wasn't a super-weapon, they couldn't pierce good quality cuirasses (chest armour, the thickest piece in a plate harness) of the time at any range and weren't that effective against other pieces or mail either. The strength came from the sheer number of arrows that could be loosed, six aimed shafts a minute, en masse. It took a lucky hit to injure or kill a man in armour with a bow but when you're dealing with tens of thousands of arrows being loosed at once, you're bound to get lucky at least a few times. And of course, the poorer French knights and poor ol' dobbins the warhouse weren't as well armoured as their betters and far more vulnerable.

Plus at Azincourt, the field was a quagmire, the French cavalry wasn't so much charging as waddling towards the English lines and got shot to pieces with the few men who were best armoured simply being too exhausted to fight when they finally reached the enemy.

In terms of comparison to Mongol archers, Chinese sources state that Mongol (heavy, they carried two, one of which was lighter) bows in the 12th century had a draw weight averaging at 160lbs. The exact draw weight of a 14th/15th century English bow is controversial but examples from the 16th century clock in at around 140-150lb average.

Robert Pattinson is building up a truly kino filmography

if you discount the ending perhaps

This is the period when plate armour was basically reaching its zenith, and firearms had yet to become widespread, properly developed or effectively utilized. So a huge component of warfare was overcoming heavily armoured opponents. And as mentioned, Shakespeare focuses on the actions of royalty and the nobility, so it makes sense for them to also be foregrounded in the battle scenes. That said, I'd be surprised if we don't see a few longbowmen in there somewhere. All in all the glimpses of battles we see look great.
You seem to be mixing Agincourt up with Crécy.
You're making too much of the influence of the longbows themselves on the battle. It mostly came down to terrain and the French being unable to utilize their cavalry effectively. All that being said, the advantages the English had allowed them to use their longbowmen far more effectively than they otherwise could have done.

ok but what is this

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A merchant. Also not black.

Outlaw king was pretty accurate as far as historical films go

>Outlaw King
YEAAAAAAH SCOTLAND, FUCK THE ENGLISH!
>The King
YEAAAAAAH ENGLAND, FUCK THE FRENCH!

Hope that explains, totally different movies.

It was a bit of both. The longbow was the largest self bow in the world, made from 1 piece of yew, with incredible draw strength, and the Welsh trained with them from childhood, permanently deforming themselves in the process so they could bend these bows (bend, not draw. They would push with their left hand rather than draw withe the right)

*Merchan
No idea what that means though

>its amazing he lived until 50 before being usurped
He had a ruthlessly competent wife covering for him.

youtube.com/watch?v=EvKJcxa8x_g

Look at the width of that goddamn neck. The man could win a headbutting contest with a brick wall, absolute unit.

Longbowman made up 5/6th of henrys forces in agincourt

>google movie
>director's name sounds familiar
>The Rover

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>ou're making too much of the influence of the longbows themselves on the battle. It mostly came down to terrain and the French being unable to utilize their cavalry effectively. All that being said, the advantages the English had allowed them to use their longbowmen far more effectively than they otherwise could have done.
Aye, but being trapped in the mud really wouldn't make too much difference if it weren't for the fact that there was literally over 4000 longbowmen.

Portraying Robert as a rogue 4 teh peoples liberator a his marriage as a loving and totally not political one bugged me. Couldn't see it as anything but romantic galvanising.
Had some good fights though.

english longbowman were able to pierce plate it wasnt guarenteed but it was very possible and one of the major reasons cavalry charges were used as flanking manouevers along with spears

Go back to your grave, King Henry V.

Can't see how. Webms are actually easier to make.

It also helps that at Agincourt the Longbowmen were not only battle hardened but also had been using the fucking Longbow since they were 5. The English probably learnt this when ever they tried to take Wales for the 100th time and wondered how these fuckers were so god damn good with their bows.

>implying

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Ladybird

outlaw king portrayed it as a political marriage but then they grow to like one another considering we dont really have any details of his marriage life and iirc robert the bruce wasnt known for being particularly womanizing and they had plenty of kids it could be inferred they had a decent relationship irl

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mute was shit hahaha

Watch French, Spanish or Italian movies about those eras then. OH WAIT

You need someone with more feminine facial features.

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True, but since the French had a very limited path to advance through they weren't able to make use of either their numbers or their cavalry, and just slogging through the muddy ground to reach the English was exhausting on its own and left them too weak to fight properly. Obviously the withering missile fire made things much worse for them, but my point is that it's not like the battle was decided in favor of the English just because the longbows were some kind of unbeatable super-weapon. The French weren't just shot to pieces, they did in fact reach the English line and the battle then turned into a prolonged melee, in which even the longbowmen joined the hand to hand fighting. If the French hadn't been in such bad shape by that point, or if they hadn't been hemmed in so badly by the terrain, they may very well have been able to win the day, longbows or no longbows.

glad they realized it was archers that gave the welsh their edge and not sheep fucking

An empire laughs at all your "kingdoms".

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Why did Liu Bei hate babies so much?

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Mostly mediocre films. What's your point?

>not a single negro
Highly troublesome

Kino.

Is this the movie where they showed knights needing a crane and winch to mount their horses?

>outsider
>mute

Have the French ever won a war kek

Some guy named Napoleon conquered most of europe

he wasn't french

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Reminder there is literally no such thing as a good period film. No matter how much they brag about research, they will always go out of their way to make it as wrong, soulless, and ugly as they can

Potato, tomato.

he won a few campaigns and 1 war of the coalition (some say two but he wasn't de facto ruler during the first war) but ultimately lost in every theatre and failed to address the naval balance, which was quite laughable given that the British navy was an absolute joke in terms of the antiquity of the ships and it's primitive pressgang system.

t. salty /his/fag

Does the French nation not get some credit?

You are a dumbass, stop posting and kys.

Higher testosterone wouldn't have them as twinks, regardless of their labor. Men were expected to fight if their lord called on them to, so the idea that they'd be weaker than modern men that are even less active (but fatter and live longer) is bullshit and debunked by the same sources you'll post claiming they were.

So literally all period films?

>non shakespearean dialogue

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Henry V won the Hundreds year war 20 years early but died of shitting himself so some French chick kicked the fuck out of his 2 year old son instead.

alright you guys are right, thought the guy in the back left was kek. I wouldn’t really care either but sometimes its just so glaring and obviously being done just to make a point idk why it makes me annoyed

It's better if they don't try that. The bigger problem is the dark filter, what the fuck is up with that?

>no niggers
nice

some people say she was actually the inspiration for Cersei Lannister

>Fire missles

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Stop this shit. The victory at Agincourt was not due to long bows, but due to the retardation and pride of the French.
They emptied they quivers for hours shooting at the French doing next to nothing.
The French only broke when they were flanked by the Long Bowmen in melee.
So they broke for the same reason men break in battle 99% of the time, mass of numbers and panic.

rule of cool baby

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>The victory at Agincourt was not due to long bows, but due to the retardation and pride of the French.
Why not both?

a perfect live action Rhaegar Targaryen, not the Viserys rip-off we got in the later seasons of GoT

>outlaw king

I didn't mind it.

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Seems very likely since GRRM has said ASoIaF was inspired in part by the Wars of the Roses. And by "inspired", he means he ripped it off wholesale and then plastered some dragons and zombies over it. It is the "You can copy my homework but change it a bit so the teacher doesn't notice" of fantasy settings.

no

Well obviously, but people for some reason attribute the victory to the longbows, as if they were sniping Knights from a mile away and effortlessly penetrating through armor and mowing people down with machine guns.

Cersei Lannister is part Margaret of Anjou and part Isabelle the She-Wolf

Sacré bleu!

>It's better if they don't try that.

This. They'd only mumble their dialogue like they always do these days anyway. Nice quads.

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>unless they were farmers.
>subsidence farmers
>working all day
The only time they worked all day was during sowing season and harvest season. And surprise surprise, they always had parties where they sang drank and fucked once that day of helping everyone else get their harvest in was over. If you had crops you just watched them grow for most of the time while doing some light upkeep and getting things ready. If you kept animals you just walked with them to a new spot to watch them eat grass. Farmers were the DYELs, the trade and ship guys doing new jobs every day were the ones getting exercise, and the built ones were the knights who got paid just to train all day.

To think, there was an era where everyone was so well off that guild workers basically took most of the year off. There was simply such a high demand yet little need for their work that they could do one job and then chill, and it worked just fine because there was a surplus of food around. Meanwhile now we're told that if everyone doesn't work every day until their 80s the world will collapse, despite the rise of automatisation.

it was really Henry Vth seizing the advantage to the extreme a lesser commander wouldnt have pulled off the absolute slaughter that was agincourt and it wouldnt have been possible without the longbowman

The fact that long bowmen were enough to flank and take out the tired French Knights is proof that they weren't key.
Now real life isn't some video game where archers die instantly as soon as they get into melee, but any lightly armored infantry, that could move in the mud better than faggots in full plate, would have accomplished the same.

>The French only broke when they were flanked by the Long Bowmen
That was Poitiers.
>They emptied they quivers for hours shooting at the French doing next to nothing.
The English ran out of arrows in every single major battle of the war, it is impossible to transport enough arrows to maintain the rate of fire they had for any length of time. They had young bows run forward into the battlefield during lulls in the fighting to collect unbroken arrows, they were so desperate for ammunition. Why bother if they didn't do shit?

Ultimately, the bulk of all English armies during the Hundred Years War were archers, if they were ineffective as you claim, this wouldn't have lasted more than one battle let alone nearly a century.

England went to great lengths to train and supply its archer corps, from taxing all imports to the country a certain number of yew bowstaves per ton to banning sports other than archery, even ignoring the massive industrial effort it took a medieval economy to manufacture hundreds of thousands of steel arrows.

On top of that, you also have the enormous logistical issue of transporting all those arrows overseas to France, arrows don't travel packed densely into crates like modern ammunition, you have to protect the delicate fletching otherwise they're worthless. Transporting arrows meant shifting a huge amount of very bulky cargo using dodgy medieval roads and carts. Why'd they go to the effort if after all that, they just plinked harmlessly off the enemy?

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what movie is this? seems funny

Battle of Azincourt

>how did the frogs lose when they had more men?
Arrogance and shit. French mounted cavalry would usually plow right through their enemies but would backfire at times.

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the french knights woulnt have been tired and broken had the longbowmen not been relentlessly pelting with arrows for hours on end

>That was Poitiers.
No, it was Agincourt. They ran out of arrows after shooting at near point blank range, and then flanked and overwhelmed the tired knights.

Youre thinking of the wrong henry

I'm sure it helped and had a psychological effect, but it was the terrain that did them in more than anything.

fuck I can't see fucking edward cullen, twilight really fucked up pattinson for me

except he didn’t end it nearly as well either

He didn't end it at all. The fat fuck never finished the story.

yes the terrain very much helped but it was Henrys tactical ingenuity and the skill of the longbowman that ultimately let the English seize on that advantage to begin with

More than america has thats for sure

That's fair, it was a number of factors. I just think long bow men get too much credit. As far as I'm concerned the tough bastards that held the line against the French knights did more to win this battle than the bowmen, but it's all relative.

It was all twinks fighting twinks, retard. You don't get jacked from fighting twinks every few years.

Am I crazy or does this movie look too clean? Like it's either the camera, or just the cast, I don't know.
They look too well groomed or something.

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France is basically the one country that contended against entire coalitions:
War of the Spanish succession
War of the Austrian succession
War of the devolution
Revolutionary wars
War of the triple alliance
Nine years war

Each of these, they were beset by coalitions of Austria, Britain, the Netherlands, Russia, sometimes Prussia, sometimes Spain, and would come out on top.
They carried with them the reputation of being the warrior people of Europe up until the XIXth century.

what, they had robots fighting in the battle too?

you get jacked from training everyday and fighting in tourneys where people routinely died inbetween wars dumbass

Holy fucking kino. Chadamet never lets us down.

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lookin' gud

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It's got a different aesthetic to Outlaw King to be sure. It's not about a desperate war of survival against an overwhelming enemy, it's about the growth of one of the best known kings in English history. I don't know how it's supposed to improve on the Shakespeare play at all but I'll still watch.

Also now that Netflix has a ton of armor from various stages of history we can expect to see a lot more of this stuff in the future. They don't waste their prop inventory.

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>They carried with them the reputation of being the warrior people of Europe up until the XIXth century.
but then they got wrecked so hard it erased their reputation up to that point.

>the son of a french guy playing Henry V
Does this guy have no morals at all ?

There aren't that many worthy enemies to France but Henry V sure is one of them.

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With Americans that don't read their history sure.

Is this the guy cast in the Dune movie? Seems pretty good.

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>be blind
>tie yourself between two other knights
>charge into battle with them
what a fucking dumbass

Well, mother of Henry V came from Normandy, it isn't that far off.

cope Macron

Huh she did ? Then again, the English kings throughout the war were basically doing all they could to ramp up their legitimacy as kings of France.
A French mother won't hurt with that, especially when you're originally a French family.

You make a good point, it's not really a war movie or anything.
More like Downton Abbey it feels like. Albeit more dramatic.

Henry V was a Plantagenet i.e. French.

france had by far the largest population in europe until the end of the napoleonic wars and used it to bully minnows. the minute they lost that advantage they didn't do shit anymore.

>how did the frogs lose when they had more men?
they're frogs

>forcing modern national concepts onto 13th century feudal Europe

Henry V was probably more fluent in French than English. England was a shitty backwater, that's why the Hundred Years War was being fought, to give the Lancastrians claim to the more valuable land on the continent.

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>Plantagenet
Gesundheit

>you get jacked from training everyday and fighting in tourneys where people routinely died inbetween wars dumbass
That was like 1% of the population max, ya fuckin idiot.

>15th century
it is the early 15thC like 1415 or so, right?

lmao this autism again

France had a large population but that's the very thing that stirred coalitions against them, coalitions that when totalled could muster much more men.

The Austrians for a time had the whole HRE at their semi-formal bidding, Britain could always trawl a population that was a quarter of what France had, and Spain was actually quite populous in those days.

But France did outstrip the competition by implementing professional armies, and then national levies first.

>dumbass

If he hadn't forced his companions to lead him in, it would have been 10/10 based. He had no reason to drag them along, and I don't think the laws of chivalry would require them to accompany him on a deliberate suicide run to prove that he still had balls.

>Combat of the Thirty movie when

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You actually push with your left and pull with your back with the right

Source: grew up loosing arrows from longbow

Robert the Bruce was a self-serving Norman noble who murdered his main rival for the crown in a church, an act which forced him to claim the throne and go to war so as to save his own skin. The filmis rasonably historically accurate (though the murder seems wildly out of step with how they portray the character the rest of the time), but adopts the modern notion that he was some sort of muh Scotland freedom fighter, which is really just a nationalist fiction. Ending was pure fantasy as well.

5 cents have been deposited in your shill account

The Hundred Years War was really more of a civil war between various French noble factions than it was a conventional war between states. The "English" nobles all spoke French as their first language, had hereditary lands in France dating back centuries and were extensively inter-married with the "French" factions, of which there wasn't just one but several that weren't neccesarily allied with the French monarchy, like the Burgundians who captured Jeanne d'Arc.

Just happened that one group of nobles lost all their lands in France by the end of the war and started pretending they'd always been English in an early instance of COPE

Huh, fair enough, thanks!

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>tfw permanently deforming yourself to become an artillery piece

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>The Austrians for a time had the whole HRE at their semi-formal bidding,
not really, and the average HRE member state was tiny.
>Britain could always trawl a population that was a quarter of what France had
British armies were always small and they relied on paying other states to fight for them, and Britain had a pretty small population until the industrial revolution.

France alone made up 1/4 of the entire population of Europe for some time.

Yup.

>Henry V was probably more fluent in French than English.
It's hilarious how this is almost always the case, same with William Wallace. Mel Gibson should have been doing a French accent throughout the movie.

>netflix production

dropped.

>>Combat of the Thirty movie when

soon

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wait, you're actually serious? get off the internet for a while, my man. it's for your own good

LOOKS LIKE KINO IS BACK ON THE MENU BOYS

The hollow crown was kino

>the Welsh trained with them from childhood, permanently deforming themselves
Nah, that wasn't the result of the training, the Welsh are just naturally deformed.

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Guys I finally have some real disposable income and I can't decide whether I should spend it on /k/ autism or /his/ autism.

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seething algerian detected

Griffith isn’t a tranny, KYS faggot

How much was deformity from archery and how much was just being Welsh we will never know.

For the most part, yes, though Henry IV and V Both made English the language of court, so definitley were crucial in the formation of the English identity.

Anyone else feel like idris elba would have been better suited for joel edgertons role? Already has an english accent too..

Yes

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Tall for the time.

Get a historical reproduction of crusader helmet and European long sword. I didn't regret it, reminds me that i actually come from somewhere and that there will be generations who come from me.

Kinda autist take but yeah

That recent movie about Mary Queen of Scots did the same. She was half-French, raised in France, her first language was French, all her courtiers and servants spoke French and she rarely spoke anything else.

In the movie though, seems to be from Edinburgh, born and bred.

>guy calling medieval warriors twinks
>calling anyone an idiot
kys my boi

>we need someone to play the archetypal English buffoon character
>I know lets get that American who perpetually looks like he just learned his wife is dying

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>/k/ autism or /his/ autism.
Why not both?

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/his/

I have a set of gothic plate and a cheapo lorica segmentum. I have a musket too, but I hope to build my collection over the course of my life. I'd like to get some proper 12th century harness next.

Oh no an another TV series about an Anglo dog. Who could have thought this?

Don't typecast him.

Character might not be based on Shakespeare anyway.

>Joel Edgerton(born 23 June 1974) is an Australian actor, director, writer, producer and filmmaker

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It's undeniable that Anglos have the richest history..

I'm sure it's going to be a more grounded, tragic version of the character, but I hope he actually gets to crack wise a few times before he dies of medieval AIDS or whatever. Maybe Edgerton has good timing or something.

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>He whines, whilst speaking English on an Anglo website, on a board dedicated pretty exclusively to Anglo tv

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Anglo history is the most boring thing. Every Anglo history movie ever:

>Anglos leave their shitty island
>They kill people
>They feel traumatized about it
>Benedette Sumbersnutch cries on screen

I want series about the hre, the Dutch, the Reconquista, the Ottomans...

>though the murder seems wildly out of step with how they portray the character the rest of the time
they portray the murder as necessity as Comyn pretty much tells robert "haha ill rat you out become king of scotland and kiss english ass" and Robert seems remorseful or ashamed with himself over it so i feel like it suits the film. Obviously we'll never know the intentions of the real robert and comyn in that moment but i feel that Robert was vindicated just because of how damn hard he had to struggle and how skillful he was at refusing to fight the english in open combat and pretty much turning the war into a medieval vietnam i doubt comyn had roberts skill.

Thanks to Allah and Mexicans your language will only be relevant in India in a few decades.

better than being a random grunt in the frontlines

>netflix
No thanks.

seething paki detected

Good Day Henry

kys achmed

Oh look Henrys come to visit us!

Nah, even if we do get replaced, our perfidious Anglo culture is already corrupting their youths, that is the reason Pakistani parents in the UK send their children back to the motherland for years at a time in the hopes it'll save them.

It won't.

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Is this from that racist game that didn't have any PoC in medieval Hungary?

>Christian European history directed and written by kike

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Thirty Years War kino when? So far it's just The Last Valley and that shit's 40 years old.

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medieval bavaria the hungarians are the common enemy you slaughter en masse like the nazis in most wwii games but yeah youre thinking of kingdom come: deliverance

Lost to Russians.

falstaff isn't big enough

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Bohemia
Cumans
No anglos in it, so there will never be a movie about it.

fuck youre right i meant bohemia but the cumans were hungarian or at least from hungary no?

I'm hoping that since Dark and Babylon Berlin have done well they might have enough cash to do some more /his/ stuff.

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Turkic nomads settled in Hungary. Used as masketta soldiers. Assimilated later on. Basically the Scots of Pannonia.
You can hope, but it won't happen. Germany is banned to make history movies. Iirc there is one German series about Maria Theresa.

You'd need a GoT-style series to do it properly.

lmaoing at this desperately wishful thinking

Hungarians are pretty much assimilated Turkic nomads themselves though ennit