Oh no, Poe! Look at that fleet! It's not like we found a way to wreck them all in one shot!

>I fucking hate what video games have done to your brain, OP.
Improved problem solving abilities?

Disney Star Wars adores the jihad gambit, though. In TLJ, there are at least 5 suicide missions. The bomber at the beginning, tumblr hair, Finn and the deathstar cannon, Rose crashing into Finn, and then Luke killing himself to troll Kylo.

this is more katana fleet then starforge

>what is autopilot

>Holdo steered
Are you the Reylofag? Because you are retarded

Okay, fine. Add an autopilot and some engines to .

>Beat bad guys
>They come back with even more troops and stronger weapons
Why does this keep happening?

Yeah, what kind of a severely outgunned terrorist organization would resort to suicide missions?

Autopilot or droids?

Just get the spread gun after up, up, left, right, left, right, b,a, and start.

>Yeah, what kind of a severely outgunned terrorist organization would resort to suicide missions?
...especially if you don't actually need people and they're impossible to stop.

>MFW the writers actually acknowledged Relativistic Kill Vehicles in fucking Star Wars
>MFW they don't even realize they've broken the masquerade beyond all repair at this point

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>What are droids?
Try again retard.

In all honestly I'm rooting for the badguys, they have that underdog shit down.

Wait what those are regular star destroyers not those gay ass new ones is this grand admiral thrawns fleet

>Thrawn
Don't get your hopes up. They're from the Empire. See

>In all honestly I'm rooting for the badguys, they have that underdog shit down.
On some level, I am as well.

>what is Japan
>what is the Muslim Maneuver

>*50 star destroyers show up*
>"hey why don't we just do that little trick Holdo did with our small ships?"

Yes

Le Resistance are basically Jihadi terrorists fighting against...Nazi Germany or...Israel, which is kinda funny imagery all said and done.

Yeah, they basically fucked the universe for good. They could have had a mission where they had to disable the shields of Supremacy, which is why they could suicide ram it. But, what they did, was basically turn every fucking civilian transport into a continent killing kill vehicle.

>The bomber at the beginning, tumblr hair, Finn and the deathstar cannon, Rose crashing into Finn, and then Luke killing himself to troll Kylo.
ADMIRAL ACKBAR!

If the empire ever had that many Star destroyers they’d never need to build a death star in the first place.
There’s like only 30 star destroyers at the battle of Endor..
Nu-star wars - Bad guys have seemingly endless resources, good guys run out of fuel.

Canon puts them at tens of thousands.

Endor would have worked 99.99 percent of the time for the Empire. The fleet there was more than big enough against what the rebels brought along, and the DS-2 was the designated shooter.

In the old canon sure:
‘The number comes from the June 1993 edition of the book, "Star Wars Imperial Sourcebook" by Greg Gorden. The number is also mentioned in the game, Star Wars Uprising.’.

Has there been anything in any disney stuff that specifies that number?

did you forget the three movies where there were entire space fleets of droids?

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Poe or should we say Nathan?

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>Bad guys have seemingly endless resources

Which makes absolute zero difference when you throw a beach ball at lightspeed and obliterate their fleet and the planet behind it. Battles in Star Wars are now going to be about trying to oneshot the enemy before they oneshot you, and the battle is over in an instant because hesitating for even a single second means your entire navy dies to a man.

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New canon has 25 thousand.

Which would make sense given how big the galaxy is, but also how fast hyperdrive is too. I'm sure they could go far higher.

They won't mention the purple haired Muslim Maneuver and they'll pretend it never happened, outside of giving stupid excuses for why no one has done it before.

Why are you fags expecting and logic from SW? It's made to make sense to the dumbest in society, and children.

>Destroy the big bad guy planet buster base that took countless resources
>They somehow come back a day later and slaughter the Rebels
It's like they didn't even try

>he thinks that people believing in a cause strongly enough to sacrifice their lives for it isn’t an almost daily occurrence for the human race
I hate what s()y and corporate mind slavery has done to your balls, user

Hurrr why doesn't the rebels just put hyperdrives on bricks and ram things because one autistic staff officer performed such a manuever with a capital ship during desperate times, and I completely disregard everyone in the series before (including the original fucking movie) that describes hyperdrives and hyperspace jumps as complicated processes.

You all are fucking peabrains.

>complicated processes
That anyone in Star Wars with the equivalent of a driver's license is able to pull off. The complicated part is to NOT hit anything as you fly away, but if your goal is to hit something relatively close, suddenly it becomes so easy that a solo pilot is able to do it, which does call into question every space combat maneuver done in the whole franchise.

One ship took down a ton of ships in TLJ.

Really, just attach a ton of engines on a meteor and shoot it at them.

Droids exist, virgin

Scale in these movies is totally fucked
There's like 12 """""rebels"""" but apparently millions of these guys with virtually limitless resources but they'll all be stopped by punching the ghost of the christmas past
Who the fuck is even excited by this slop

Han says it's complicated so that you don't smash into something.

And back in the day, "we" all assumed that planetary shields and the shields of capital ships are why small ships ramming them with hyperdrive didn't destroy them.

But nope, Rian has a double digit IQ at best

Star Wars would've been so much more interesting had the Jedi come back to power, and Sith fighters attempted to overthrow them.

What kind of fucking retarded formation is that for space ships to be in. Its fucking space they dont need to stick to a 2D plane like ships on the ocean. LEARN TO 3D

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>continent
a ship going at light speed would have near infinite mass. you could tape a hyperdrive to an xwing and annihalate a planet in a trillionth of a second

sadly this

and by a planet i of course mean tear space-time in half

>complicated processes
Literally every single ship has hyperspace drive you dumbass shill

I can't believe they're going with the "more is better" school of thought that was disproved in the early 2000s

People don't look at this and go "wowie I'm 40x more engaged because theres more stuff!!!" They just zone out.

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probably still better than 40k's scale desu

O'Connel did it better

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This is why Kylo is such a likeable character
>First teacher Luke tried to kill him
>Second teacher Snoke calls him a loser
>As a rival Rey beats him every time they fight
>As a love interest/friend Rey abandons him during his time of need
It's hard to not be rooting for him to get a win

I thought it was pretty cool when I was a kid

this

This battle was cool though.

Let the droids pilot those ships.

But according to Solo Droids are sentient

I liked it, but I can see why it could confuse people during the screening due to so much shit going on.

It's alright to go through it slowly and you can see the detail they put into it, how you have groups of warships converging on single targets, long range battery fires, and a "3D" depiction of space

For the longest time I wonder what that blue beam was that came out of the Venator's hanger and oneshotted the CIS ship was.

Only much later did I stumble on the fact that this is a Anakin thing where he convinced some of the captains to deploy SPHAT droids in the hanger as extra capital ship killing weapon after seeing them in action on Geonesis. I thought that was a really neat thing

I like how tight his pants are in the crotch

What's the latest leak?

I wonder if JJ has the balls to address the elephant in the room

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>no one of consequence dies when Holdo does her le epic Zanketsu anime hyperdrive katana slice through the flagship

Why not just have her RAM THE SHIP NORMALLY IN AN ACT OF DEFIANCE? Even though it would do nothing, it would remind the heroes what they’re fighting for and cucks would still think her sacrifice makes her an awesome feminist icon. A fucking 8-year old has more talent than what actually got put into the flick

Having literally more than half the death star as a single piece of debris, when it clearly vaporized in ANH is pure fanfiction.

Yep. It's dead, Jim.

Based reference.

I am newly amazed every time I think about this monumental display of incompetence.

Only according to femini- I mean droid rights activists

And that's why they're getting no more of my money. I'm not contributing to their sickening combination of ineptitude and arrogance.

It gets better. X-Wings all already *have* hyperdrives. Hyperdrives are as common as toasters in Star Wars.

Because Star Wars is a corporate brand far more than it is a story
The people at Disney didn't make a new star wars because they thought of a great story to tell, or because they were passionate about Star Wars, but simply because they wanted some quick cash. There are no thoughts behind all of this, no artistic vision, no passion. It is not written by passionate people, or real writers, but suits in a business meeting.
The explanations don't matter, the logic doesn't matter, the characters don't matter, the universe doesn't matter, all that matters to them is the spectacle, and how they can sell that.

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Indeed.

I dunno, maybe because they imagined this retarded 60km wide ship and had to disable it somehow for the plot..
They keep throwing those large scale shitty ideas at viewers but they give no numbers to make that meaningful, like the work force, supply chain and time frame needed to build shit IN SECRET, like death star or the starkiller, a flotilla of capital ships..

The battle over coruscant is one of the coolest scenes in star wars though you reddit spacing retard

>Space is 3d
>Battlefleet is on a flat plane and lined up behind eachother

What?

>Episode 9
>Plot is they are going to hyperspeed ram all those star destroyers into ever rebel planet in the galaxy

Il even put money on it.

So what is stopping them from attacking the fleet with hyperdrive ramming?
Except plot convenience

How are they supposed to fight in that formation? They are blocking each other's fire sectors. Just use the fucking combat boxes, Jesus.
I know that huge formations looked good in Tartakovski's Clone Wars, but here it isn't.

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nice, It really stands out

Contrary to popular belief, mass doesnt increase when you move close to light speed
Although you are correct that a ship moving at near tje speed of light would obliterate a planet

>make a space
>this faggot automatically thinks of reddit

Telling, really.

So in a nutshell the nurebel are gonna win because disney made up a fleet forgotten in space they will use to beat the nuempire

Fuck no.

You're talking about the same guy who signed off on the same coincidences and broken conventions to forward the plots of TWO movies.

Star Trek
>Kirk and future Spock end up in the same ice cave on an ICE PLANET because REASONS
>Kirk and future Spock find Scotty on the SAME ICE PLANET because REASONS
>Scotty "solves" beaming to get them all back on the Enterprise, breaking all previous conventions about how shields and warp travel preclude the use of beaming because CONVENIENCE, thus invalidating all need for warp travel or even ships, really

Star Wars
>Finn and BB-8 end up at the same DESERT PLANET settlement as Rey, the most gifted Force sensitive anyone's ever seen, because REASONS
>Finn, BB-8, and Rey discover the Millennium Falcon is on this same DESERT PLANET, at exactly the same settlement, because REASONS
>The Falcon leads them to Han Solo, who eventually "solves" hyperspace and planetary shields to get them to where the next setpiece needs them to be, because CONVENIENCE, thus invalidating all we've ever understood about how shields, gravity wells, and hyperdrives work

The man is a lazy, visionless hack. The only thing that makes him marginally better than Retard Johnson is his dialogue is(mostly) less tin-eared, and he knows how to use pacing and visual spectacle to better distract his audience from his abysmal plotting and storytelling. At least on a first viewing.

stop being autistic the ships are not fighting or in fighting formation they are just floating in space

i hate nuwars as much the rest but this shit is just about the shot looking cool

Droids have been shown in every trilogy to be capable of piloting ships by themselves.

The PT has actual droid ships.

Autopilot and nav computers have been shown in every trilogy.

There are zero rational explanations for why space battles are now not just ships hyper space ramming each other. I can't wait to hear how JewJew tries to explain it away.

Fucking nailed it.

>New canon has 25 thousand.
>Which would make sense given how big the galaxy

You so realize how big a galaxy is right? 25000 star destroyers would be nothing.

He aint gonna explain shit, probably doesnt even remember anything about it. The normies dont know or care and will see the new flick regardless of its quality, or lack thereof

Except it is looking shitty and cartoony.

>The normies dont know or care and will see the new flick regardless of its quality

Doubtful. TLJ was so bad it even pissed off normies and theres literally no hype for 9 because theres nothing to care for.

That would have almost redeemed her shitty character in my eyes. You could have even made her actual plan include having someone she knew and trusted really well(make it Rose) clandestinely rigging all the ordinance remaining on the ship to detonate by remote control. You could use that as the reason she was so tight-lipped about her plan - that they couldn’t find any beacons on any of their ships and suspected a spy. Have Poe and Finn discover the detonators, take matters into their own hands, and get incapacitated and detained by Rose(who it turns out is actually a bit of a badass), all because none of them trust each other, not because they think Poe’s some kind of hothead. They escape, reveal the presence of the detonators, and a *real* mutiny breaks out, with Holdo and the tight circle of command who know the plan struggling to maintain control of the bridge, culminating in some nameless bridge techie discovering(at long last) how they’re being tracked. Then the boring, slow-motion “chase” becomes “Crimson Tide.” In space.

You intercut that with officers aboard the Supremacy having a laugh over how their tracker is probably making the Resistance tear itself apart from within and how the device needed to accomplish it is so massive that only the Supremacy could house it, that it achieves some sort of hyperspatial “resonance” with the hyperdrive of another ship, but that it’s dangerous should the resonance be discovered, and even shutting it off doesn’t immediately end the danger, as the resonance takes time to decay.

Then you have the mutiny come to a conclusion based off a restored trust and have the entire crew mobilize toward the(revised) evac plan, with key characters arguing over who stays behind to ram the Supremacy. It’s at this point that Leia reveals that she’s dying, that her exposure to cosmic radiation during the explosion isn’t reversible. Crushed at the news, Holdo bids her a tearful farewell.

That's going to be the republics/resistance new fleet

If they had done this in place of that pointless casino bit... might have actually been good

fuck that edgy shit. grow up

Not him but how is it edgy? He didn't say the the empire would be the good guys, they could implement guerilla fighting tactics and slowly build up power behind the scenes or turn the public against the jedi.

Everyone he loved and the entire Galaxy basically said "fuck you" to Kylo and he's still fighting. What a sympathetic badass.

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ugly manlet

And it’s at this point that, across the Galaxy, Luke Skywalker feels his sister pass. Saying simply, “It’s time,” he disappears in a rising nimbus of light. And enormous leviathans erupt upward from the sea into the sky, following that radiance.

The confrontation with Kylo plays out almost exactly as we saw it, but with some key differences:

>Kylo: Are you here to save my soul, Uncle?
>Luke:No.
>Kylo lunges at Luke, who effortlessly parries the attack one-handed.
>Luke: I’m here to remind you that you still have one.
>Luke makes a fast, sweeping gesture with his free hand, and suddenly the surrounding salt flat is replaced by a stormy, rain-shrouded landscape. In the middle distance, a robed figure stands before the open door of a small hut.
>Kylo: Why show me this? We both know what happened that night.
>Luke: What I know is that you might finally be ready to see the truth. To hear it.
>Kylo: If I kill you here, will you finally die, old man?
>Luke: You can no more kill me here than anywhere else.
>As he says this, Luke again gestures, and suddenly they are inside the hut. Between Luke and Kylo, we see a hooded, shadowy figure crouched at Ben’s bedside.
>Kylo: That. Is. A. LIE.
>Kylo runs from the hut, only to find Luke standing in his path.
>Luke: That is the truth, Ben. That has always been the truth. You’ve been running from it for most of your life, but running from the truth doesn’t make it a lie; it only takes you farther from it. Did that seem like the Emperor to you? At first, it did to me, as well, but that thing is more than that, more than just the creature you knew as your master.
>Luke places his hand on Kylo’s shoulder, he starts to turn away, but does not.
>Luke: It’s all of them, Ben. All the Sith Masters.

tst

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Scotty doesn't solve the warp travel problem. Spock does, by using a formula Scotty already came up with in a previous episode/movie.

What are the odds of this guy even being mentioned in the new film?

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What the fuck are you talking about? That would have been cool, and a logical continuation of the earlier series.

>Luke: Snoke was just their vessel, a failed Imperial attempt to resurrect the Emperor, but Palpatine did not return to our world alone. He showed them a way back, and they crowded within the flawed vessel that was your master, his body twisted by the life forces at war within him. He was their vessel, Ben. He became the heart of their malignancy, but he was overburdened. Sensing his frailty and imperfection, the spirits within him sought release, a release you granted them, Ben. Now they seek a new vessel. Now they take temporary refuge within your “Knights,” but Soon they will choose a more permanent host - either you, or the young woman you know as Rey.
>visions end, revealing Kylo and Luke still in the same pose we last saw.
>Luke switches off his saber and turns to walk away
>Luke: Only together can you hope to defeat them, Ben.
>As Luke walks away, he again begins to fade into a nimbus of light
>Kylo: Where are you going?
>Luke: To honor my sister. And to make ready for my role in this final battle. I suggest you do likewise. I found them, Ben, the Ro’oracanti. They seek a way to send the Masters back to the void.
>Kylo: Those creatures are from child’s tales, old man.
>Luke(laughing): So am I, Ben. So too might you be some day.
>Luke vanishes

A story still in Scotty’s(and the entire Trek Universe’s) future. His warp “equations” completely do away with any real need to ever travel by ship anywhere again.

>an admiral remarks that the enemy is appearing to get ships from nowhere
>this is a very critical logistical and operations question
>the unified commander in chief of the entire scale of rebel naval maneuvers passive aggressively insinuates tactical, not strategic maneuvers are worthy of even talking about
>THE HEAD OF THE ENTIRE REBEL ALLIANCE AGREES WITH HIM
jesus fucking christ this is a complete soulless clownshow

where the fuck do these niggers keep getting all the resources and personnel to keep on building shit like this?

Rey is a clone. Palpatine has another clone that he's made into a sith. Kylo Ren is the Skywalker from the title. He will turn good to sacrifice himself for rey. He will kill Palpatine and die, just like his hero Vader.

>program dozens of suicide xwings with droids
>lead 1st order fleet into ambush
>????
that's the entire reason everyone is ripping into that hyperspace crash, it literally makes all large ship to ship battles in starwars pointless

Rose Tico will ram that fleet a la holdo

Lmao this movie is shit already

These people think this is how real life works too

LMAO

FUCKING BOOTLICKING KEK

SHUT THE FUCK UP

Aint these niggas heard of Z-AXIS? Space niggas need to watch Wrath of Khan just fly under them LOL

Better writing than anything Disney’s made.

So is this supposed to confirm time travel shenanigans as part of the plot with these 30+ year old ISDs appearing? They're even the RO/ANH versions and not the more common upgrades from ESB/ROTJ.

Theyll need to mention him to explain that Sheev was behind him the entire time.

>How did they regroup so quickly?
>Who cares?

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>does it matter
>not one bit
maybe if the rebels gave a fuck about the resources and logistics of the empire they could actually win a war for good

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it looks like shit tho

>Tapes 1000 fold nipiton steel sword to xwing.
>Makes light speed jump through all of the ships.
Heh, nothing personal kid.

More is better
But it can't be completely soulless
youtube.com/watch?v=z5xDSZnok4s

So what your telling me is it's now the same as yughoh, literally top deck your opponant.

Like i said, its not like they're not putting in explanations simply because they're lazy, its just that the people who write this do not care. Writing explanations to establish an in universe logic, requires actual knowledge and creativity, but the people who write the sequel content don't have that, to them, any logic and downtime between action scenes is just a road to get to another spectacle, another battle with big explosions, another action set-piece with Tie Fighters, X Wings and the millenium falcon set to yet another rendition of the "Tie Fighter attack soundtrack", another giant laser superweapon etc.
Gone are the days of Lucas and scenes like the imperial meeting in episode 4, which justifies the death star as a deterrent to enforce imperial rule now that the senate is dissolved, or scenes of palpatine meticulously manipulating the republic to centralize power in himself, or a binary sunset to establish Luke's character of a man looking for adventure. All replaced by big explosions and nostalgia bait rehashed ad infinitum.

I believe it since you made that up

>Gone are the days of Lucas and scenes like the imperial meeting in episode 4, which justifies the death star as a deterrent to enforce imperial rule now that the senate is dissolved, or scenes of palpatine meticulously manipulating the republic to centralize power in himself, or a binary sunset to establish Luke's character of a man looking for adventure. All replaced by big explosions and nostalgia bait rehashed ad infinitum.
I think the only scene that was even close to that was Rey staring at that old junk collector near the beginning of TFA.

ohh im retarded therefore i dont know what autopilot or robot pilots are, excuse me please because im retarded.

And the brief scene where Hux and Kylo argue in front of Snoke about their Stormtrooper “program.”

> There have never been human casualties or sacrifices in a war
That's literally what people do, you fucking idiot.

It's laughable how bad this formation looks

they are stealing from the EU again, but doing it in a way more shitty story.

That's how they explain it away. The trouble is that we know no such things from all established lore that was shown. There is NO such thing as transwarp beaming in Star Trek. They could've gone with temporal beaming, but even Future Spock wouldn't have known about that.

>turning a planet into a powerful death star and no one noticed
>hiding a fleet of Star Destroyers in a nebula for 40+ years
Well done JJ, great level of writing. Perhaps you should let your son co-write the scripts, when you're done making your Spider-Man comic for Marvel.

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Not simply trans-warp, but trans-shield, too. They beamed literal light years onto a ship traveling at warp speed. A shielded ship. With that lazy piece of hackery, they essentially made it possible for them to do literally everything people who mock Star Trek ever suggested, then they act like we’re the assholes for noticing their shit writing.