Was he the Asian Steven Seagal?

See Cope, you fucking armchair "experts".

Legit, show me the following:

>Official Bruce Lee fights
>Footage of Bruce Lee FIGHTING (not sparring, not in demonstrations)
>Bruce Lee's OFFICIAL record in combat sports

Then I'll call him a fighter.

Don't get grumpy because you up and put your foot in your mouth, dumb-dumbs. It's not like you couldn't google "mma fighters that use jeet kune do" before writing some half-cocked shitpost. Well concede that you're wrong about half of your points.

Bruce Lee was a martial artist in an age that predates MMA and widespread recording of anything but professional boxing. Recordings of Sugar Ray Robinson's bouts are largely lost to time. Is he less of a fighter because of it?

0 fights he's a fraud. Had to run away from Chicago because all the black guys kept kicking his ass.

>tfw Yea Forums and Tarantino ruined Bruce Lee for me
Feels fucking awfull man, a big part of my childhood destroyed by this place

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Wow. Calling him Steve Seagal isn't even enough. You gotta call him literally worse than Steve Seagal.

lolwut?

youtube.com/watch?v=PE1HBO36aQQ

youtube.com/watch?v=8sRAoyh-y9Q

Now it's time to keep quiet or admit you're wrong.

He was a great salesman and very charismatic

Steven Seagal actually had a black belt.
The only belt Bruce Lee has is the leather belt for his skinny jeans.

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>Highlights from a loss
Jeet Kune Do absolutely blown the fuck out.

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Elvis was the best martial artist of his time, with his special 8th Degree Black Belt in karate.

See Regarding "MMA fighters doing Jeet Kune Do".

>Bruce Lee was a martial artist in an age that predates MMA and widespread recording of anything but professional boxing
Yet somehow there's recordings of Karate competitions at the time, but none of a guy that made a living off having a camera pointed at him?

Hmm, interesting.

The amount of you autists doing mental gymnastics to justify a fraud are hilarious. Also, see See They list Capoeira in his style, which is essentially more of a dance than a Martial Art, yet they don't list Jeet Kune Do, a supposed "martial art"? Interesting.

>Video essays on him "using Jeet Kune Do"
Fucking lol. None of those techniques are exclusive to Jeet Kune Do you fucking retarded ape.

Also, training something =/= using it effectively.

But also, Lol.

Fucking Bruce Lee fags, I truly enjoy BTFOing you all. Keep 'em coming, by the time I'm done you retards will be gone from the internet because of being shamed for falling for a con man.

I don't see why people have to lie just for a meme. He was obsessed with martial arts for its own sake, and sparred constantly.

Reminder online defenders of Bruce Lee are paid Chinese shills. This is what wing chun and other fake and gay chinese martial arts look like in a real fight: youtube.com/watch?v=6GJUA39ssH8
Random street brawlers stand a better chance.

God this spacing is disgusting

Ignore the Chang cope

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Cope.

They must be routed from the internet.

Bruce Lee himself said Wing Chun isn't very practical and moved away from it more and more.

Bruce Lee fags and Chinks "martial arts" COMPLETELY BTFO.

COPE.

Will someone give this guy a hand? He can't carry it all by himself.

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>No argument
>Makes up shit to save face

Cope, Chink.

but what about the time he was like, "be like water" that was cool

>None of those techniques are exclusive to Jeet Kune Do you fucking retarded ape.

You don't actually know what JKD is, do you?

You got fucked into oblivion by BWC

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Its weird how a guy that proved nothing in his lifetime (and accomplished nothing) has a cult that defends his non-existent record to this day.

Oh fuck I forgot about that, you're right. I take back everything.

>"It's a fucking mix, maaaaan, it's a bit of everything, cause that's what Bruce Lee said, maaaan"
Smoke a fucking joint, hippie.

Jeet Kune Do is bullshit, cope with the fact that you bought into it you fucking useless retard.

This.

Fuck chinks. They've been lording it up all this time. Time to put them down a peg.

JACKIE CHAN IS NUMBER ONE FIGHTER IN THE WORLD DID U SEE HIM IN DRUNKEN MASTER? HE KICKED A MILLION ASSES WHILE DRUNK I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU WHITE BOY INCELS TRY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>show Anderson Silva training in JKD
>HURR DURR HE'S NOT

Retardation or denial?

>moving the goalpost isn't an argument
No shit it's not an argument, it's pointing out that you don't have one.

Give up

>makes argument
>gets btfo
>gets angry, changes argument to something vaguely defensible, calls other chink

Post face. I can tell you're a fatty.

>huge Bruce Lee fan as kid
>loved enter the dragon
>years later try to see videos of him fighting
>literally none exist except for him doing kicks for an interview
>find out he has absolutely no fight record and his only well known fight with some Chinese guy was hidden from the press and there are five different stories about what happened
>realize he's basically Steven seagal
It was kind of a sad moment for me

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JKD doesn't even exist lmao how can he be training in it?

>Jeet Kune Do is bullshit
>Anderson Silva used it to win fights

lolwut?

youtube.com/watch?v=8sRAoyh-y9Q

>JKD doesn't exist
>it's being taught by Dan Inosanto

youtube.com/watch?v=8sRAoyh-y9Q

I'll give you a minute to Google it then come back to me.

Not knowing what jeet kune do is is one thing, but there's no excuse for not being able to read. Get to sleep. You have school in the morning, and you clearly should be focusing more on your studies.

Yep. There's exactly one video of him fighting "for real". He does okay, but there's certainly no confirmation for the whole murdering 100 guys with 1 finger before you can blink bullshit.

see Show face, fatty.

Bruce is still the man. These guys dont get that bruce lee is black sabbath to mma's metallica. And that analogy holds true where way of the dragon influenced everything action related today. Shang chi a marvel character thats basically a rip off of Bruce lee is going to be a marvel movie. And then there's his modernization of eastern philosophies. He did well during his time. Well enough to where people create memes, shitposts and real posts to laugh at the things he believed in as well as bruce himself

>show Anderson Silva training in JKD with video evidence
>moves goalpost
>error: logic not found

lmao

No videos of Jesus Christ, either. Are you telling me he isn't real? Nice try, Satan.

>Didn't even bother reading the rest of the post
Again, training something =/= using it effectively =/= using it at all.

Are you fucking retarded? Again, see Silva could fucking train Judo for all we know, doesn't mean he's using it in the cage.

Jesus Christ, you kids are fucking retarded lmao.

>Still no argument
Cope, Chink.

See also Also read above.

>All this small dicked Chink anger
Lmao, keep 'em coming.

So Metallica is better than Black Sabbath and Black Sabbath is a fraud with good marketing?

>Be Dan
>'Training' partner with a famous movie star
>definitely don't exploit his memory for cash and fame, teaching what ever BS you know and can come up with to marks
>Say "frow rike water" every so often to the marks
>Profit

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>No argument
Cope.

Holy fucking cringe lmao.

Post face. I'll follow suit because of good faith, and all that.

>Again, training something =/= using it effectively =/= using it at all.

Look at that goalpost go.

>hurr Dan is using Bruce Lee's fame to teach bullshit durr

Next you'll tell me Filipino Martial Arts are bullshit and won't work in real life.

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even people who have never seen a single one of his movies idolise him. if you ask why none of them will be able to give you a concise answer.

>No argument still

>"G-GOAL P-POSTS!!!"
Still waiting for an argument.

t. fatty

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>asian
lmao
>steven seagal
>not also part of the tribe

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>"F-FATTY!!"
185cm tall, 85kg, 13% bf. I actually train.

I've fucking destroyed you, all you can say is "F-FATTY" and asking men online to post pictures of their faces / bodies because you can't COPE.

Cope, Chink.

>he thinks moving goalposts is a tactic in debate

I guess whites do have lower IQ than Asians.

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Jeet Kune Do is his philosophy about martial arts and his ideas have more or less been proven right by MMA at this point. He was a proponent of a lot of things we take for granted nowadays in martial arts - like emphasizing conditioning, mixing styles, aliveness in training, etc. He was an advocate for realism in martial arts. I doubt many people have actually read what he wrote, they're just responding to the meme interpretation of it all.

Not sure how much sense it makes to pin the current state of JKD teaching on Lee considering he died at such a young age, but there's still respected figures like Erik Paulson that came out of it. There's some solid fighters, but also successful UFC coaches with a background in it. Even McGregor's Straight Blast Gym started with a JKD guy. While Lee was alive he personally worked with a lot of the top competitors, including Joe Lewis who went on to be the first kickboxing champion when full-contact kickboxing came around in the 70s.

They need pictures of dissenter's faces for their chinkoid facial recognition software lmao

>No argument
The definition of JKD you used isn't accurate, and your interpretation of my post was telling of sometime with limited reading comprehension skills. What skills are inherent to JKD? Let's start there. Do you know, user, or are you angrily shit-posting because you've dug yourself a hole and think anger is a substitute for an actual answer?

Impotent gook cope

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this.

>185cm tall, 85kg, 13% bf. I actually train.

lol you train in what? eating?

replying to yourself so you won't post pic, huh?

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Unlike 2000 years ago the technology to create videos was widely available during Bruce Lees lifetime. Yet no one choose to record his amazing physics defying fights.

please don't post here anymore

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Meanwhile, in reality....

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Don't be sad, your interpretation of him might have been off, but he was still a great martial artist. Definitely not a Seagal.

You're the one who compared Black Sabbath to Bruce "Fraud" Lee!

Like one inch punches that launch a man ten feet back, or two finger push ups, or sparring in Long Beach?

based autistic bruce lee was a jew poster

>Posts filipino trained in western boxing
Reminder Asians call people from the Philippines 'SEA monkeys' and the 'niggers of Asia', yet they need Filipino/Latino power to bail out their fragile masculinity lmao

>It's the same guy from the other threads that keeps getting BTFO
>Posts the same vids
>The same shitty "arguments"

Still waiting for an argument.

>He was an advocate for this and that
Ok? Meanwhile, Greeks actually put everything he spoke about (and never practiced in competition) in practice thousands of years before. Big whoop.

>These people and and gyms teach JKD
Okay? Meanwhile, they use Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai and in a smaller degree Karate for striking, Wrestling, BJJ and in a smaller degree Judo for grappling and that's about it.

No traces of JDK, no "pure JKD" practitioners (you'd think for something called "the first MMA", there'd be a lot more people using it), not a single JDK person in any combat sport that is respectable.

Why would that be?

Fucking lmao.

Read above.

Go ahead, "argue" some more.

MMA, actually.

Cope, Chink.

If this is true, you've posted before on /fit/. We might have even been in a thread together. Stop being a pussy and make with the proofs. Better still, I'm going to need a video, otherwise you're a phony.

its the same reason they post black dudes, its a stand in for their nonexistent masculinity

the ultimate gook cope

All fraudulent feats that don't actually work.

It wasn't anywhere near as widely available as today though. So if you're expecting videos of random fights he got into you're going to be disappointed. People couldn't just take out their cellphones and record shit back then. Show me some recordings of Mas Oyama's fights too.

Isnt martial arts a meme? It's more comparable to ballet than it is to actual fighting.

>MMA, actually.

I don't believe you. Prove it.

Nope, I haven't posted on /fit/ since 2016 because I don't lift for anything that isn't strength and conditioning.

They have no ability to have martial arts threads, which is what interests me.

>Asking for videos and photos of men online
Closeted Chink much?

JKD is a combination of martial arts like MMA, retard.

It's like saying there are no pure MMA practitioners.

You're right. Somewhere along the line Asian martial arts took a dramatic step towards demonstrations/showmanship and away from practicality. They give people belts just for doing forms and no sparring.

>They have no ability to have martial arts threads, which is what interests me.

How convenient. Internet tough guy claiming to be better than Bruce can't post his picture and then claims he's a big guy lmao.

There are martial arts threads on /fit/ all the time, chubs. You are next level full of shit.

>yet they need Filipino/Latino power to bail out their fragile masculinity lmao

Filipinos aren't Latino, you inbred white fuck.

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> Meanwhile, they use Boxing, Kickboxing, Muay Thai and in a smaller degree Karate for striking, Wrestling, BJJ and in a smaller degree Judo for grappling and that's about it.
>Muay Thai
>BJJ
>Judo
>Karate
>hurr durr Asian martial arts are bullshit loool

You're a complete retard, huh?

He studied western boxing because it kicks ass, took ideas from grappling and kicking from karate and tkd. That's proto mma.

Steven Seagal stuck to his slap fighting and the only thing he got better at was growing a potbelly and exposing himself as a liar.

I said fights not circus tricks. No one doubts his abilities as an athlete, just as a fighter.

For all the asian men in this thread

Leave
You will gain nothing from this
These people want to pull you down and nothing else
just take time off Yea Forums

>Ok? Meanwhile, Greeks actually put everything he spoke about (and never practiced in competition) in practice thousands of years before. Big whoop.
The Greeks combined striking and wrestling in Pankration, but it isn't the same thing as a philosophy of taking from different disciplines. It's was an art itself in a sense, rather than about mixing martial arts. Not to say Lee was the first at all to mix styles, but he was going against what a lot of people in the martial arts world believed back then.
>No traces of JDK, no "pure JKD" practitioners (you'd think for something called "the first MMA", there'd be a lot more people using it), not a single JDK person in any combat sport that is respectable.
"Pure JKD" is kind of hard to define because of what said in addition to general arguments about defining JKD. Frankly almost nobody is "pure" anything nowadays. There are more than a few people with JKD backgrounds in the UFC at least.

They absolutely are lmao. They've adopted the names, some of the culture and even the language into their everyday vocabulary.

Isn't it ironic how he asks for proof of Bruce Lee doing martial arts when his fatass can't even produce a pic?

That guy never said Asian martial arts are BS - he said Bruce Lee is a fraud. Do you understand the difference?

>They absolutely are lmao. They've adopted the names

Because of Spanish colonization. Read a fucking book. God, you're so stupid.

Widely enough for him to film a ton of other shit, but never a fight. Not even his challenge matches where time and place were known well in advance. The guy was working in the film industry are you really trying to tell me he couldn't procure a camera for at least a couple of those?

What techniques are you looking for to confirm the application of JKD?

>The only belt Bruce Lee has is the leather belt for his skinny jeans.
>post pic where Lee has no belt on his pants
Hey, Quentin, at least learn how to meme correct :3

Well he's wrong about both those things.

Yes, and that colonization makes them Latino. Just like it did to all the natives of the Americas.

>Bruce Lee is a fraud
>MMA exists because of him
>Anderson Silva trains in JKD
>a boxer of similar build like him is BTFO whiteys

How many more goalposts will you move?

His challenge matches like the Wong Jack Man one took place before he was famous in America or even working in the film industry there. He was just a martial arts instructor.

>colonization makes an Asian Latino
American education.

>>MMA exists because of him
Patently false and already refuted in this thread. Anderson trained JKD the same way he 'trained' with Steven Seagal - in other words, his own amusement and as a meme.

Sparring is not a widely performed circus trick, but far be it from me to debate a clown on the state of the circus.

Bruce lee was a 60 kg pussy, anybody who tries to defend that limp dick faggot must be an asian """"""""""man"""""""""" who desperately needs to believe in fairy tales

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>is a combination
What a fucking cop-out lmao.

Yeah, that's what it is by definition, but what is it really? It has a name, it has a philosophy, it has a father who had cameras on him for a living, it has definitions, it has limits.

Yet what it doesn't have is: footage of its father using it in competition, practitioners who use it (almost all MMA fighters have a base on which they expand upon, very few are "pure MMA" people; plus in situations of panic they fall back to their base [e.g. panic wrestlers]), legitimacy, practical uses.

>MMA IS JKD RETARD
If that was the case, MMA would be Pankration. You're hung up on definitions rather than practicality.

See my first post ITT.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>PLS POST PICTURES OF YOURSELF ON Yea Forums
Get an argument.

>There are martial arts threads
Not when I quit posting there weren't.

Cope harder, Chinks.

>Strawman
No one said all Asian Martial Arts are bullshit, retard. Certainly not me.

You're a complete fucking retard, huh?

>striking and wrestling
And submissions too.

>IT'S NOT THE SAME PHILOSOPHY, MAAAAN
Such a crock of shit. Again, you're stuck in definitions. Think about it practically, you have a mix of disciplines put to good use in an objective, very verifiable manner.

Meanwhile, all Bruce Lee has is bullshit and Chink street magic.

>There are more than a few people with JKD backgrounds in the UFC at least
Not really. A background (or a "base" as I've stated before) is something you rely on when things are difficult and you're facing adversity. No one uses JKD, especially not inside the octagon. I've named the Martial Arts employed by 99% of fighters.

It's a very limited range. The most important of these bases are Wrestling and Boxing. You supplement it with other stuff. Never JDK.

>Patently false and already refuted in this thread.
By someone saying "No u"? Many MMA practitioners credit him for their wins and Dana White himself says he's the Father of MMA. Be more wrong.

>MMA is a copout

No, you're just a clown.

>Get an argument
Post pic of proof of be declared a pussy replying to everyone here because you have nothing better to do with your life.

Im not effected by this, Im just annoyed at the misinformed rants about Bruce Lee

You tell me. What techinques define JKD?

>It's a mix of everything
So nothing in concrete?

>No, it's specific, like its philosophy
So how specific?

>Well, you use Wing Chun
We've seen what Wing Chun practitioners look like when they face someone who practices MMA.

>Well, you use Boxing
So it's Boxing?

>No it's more
What more?

>Grappling!
What kind?

>Yes
Ok?

This.

>Dana White himself says
Dana is a promoter and will say anything for publicity. Things like Vale Tudo existed before Bruce did.

Dude, I said I'd meet you in the middle and post a picture, too. It sounds like you're in better shape than me, so I don't know why you're bitching out.

>Meanwhile, all Bruce Lee has is bullshit and Chink street magic.
>Bruce Lee trained with Inosanto for Arnis and Eskrima
>trained with Yip Man for Wing Chun
>trained with Gene LeBel for Judo

Research better.

Tim Boetsch
Ben Saunders
Alex Caceres
Off the top of my head. Not top guys maybe, but they exist. If you want to stretch it, technically Sean Sherk, Ken Shamrock, Josh Barnett, and Brock Lesnar have a sort of JKD lineage from being trained by Erik Paulson.

Vale Tudo preceeds Bruce Lee.
Pankration preceeds Bruce Lee.

>Dana White
Lol.

>U-UR A C-CLOWN
>Still no argument
Cope.

>reee Dana is lying

Is Gene LeBell lying too? Or is anyone who I post here you'll just say they're lying like that's an argument?

youtube.com/watch?v=dJoCtd_cblQ

Vale Tudo was limited to Brazil and most people around the world weren't aware of it for a long ass time. It existed, but it doesn't mean other people didn't contribute to popularizing the concept.

>Literal fucking cans
>A fuck ton of wrestlers
>Some strikers that use Boxing, Kickboxing and Muay Thai

Lol?

The only one on that list that could indeed be used as a poster boy for JKD is Alex Caceres and he has a 15-12 record.

t. 56% goblina cope
lmao
Amerimutts never won any war with any asians (even Japan was nuked when thrry already surrendered to Soviets), but sure they are pussies and all of you are heroes and chads.

We tried to warn you it wasn't a meme.

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Meanwhile, American Kickboxer Joe Lewis who's been voted the Greatest Fighter in Karate History (fightingmaster.com/legends/lewis/interview.htm) says Bruce Lee is legit.

youtube.com/watch?v=AXdG577px94

>I do so know what JKD is! Uh...you just say it first, 'cause I want to make sure you know.

This is more of the same from earlier. You could just google before sticking your foot in your mouth. I'm lobbing you softballs here, and you're too afraid to even swing. Jesus Christ.

sure

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>BUT HE SAID

Again, Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>No argument
Cope.

Asian masculinity is literally a myth

Asian "men" exist to serve BWC

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>V-Vale Tudo

Meanwhile, in reality...

youtube.com/watch?v=9u_3DfIVfMQ

He wasn't a pro fighter, so why would he have those? He was a martial artist and martial arts teacher/trainer.

I take actual fighters' word over some user on the Internet who can't post pic.

Pretty much every major figure in the American martial arts world from back then vouches for him being great.

We got him cornered, boys lol.

Bruce Lee is just another Frank Dux.

>What's your proof my dude?
>YOUTUBE ESSAYS
>Oh
Lmao.

The ultimate proof of something being effective is testing it.

That is the peak of training Martial Arts, putting it into action.

Outside of sparring and demonstrations, Lee never fought. He's a fucking con.

>Appeal to "Authority"
Irrelevant. No one speaks ill of Bruce Lee because there's nothing to gain from it you Persian faggot.

Frank Dux told stories about how great he was. In Bruce Lee's case, other people (respected ones) told stories about how great he was. There's a difference there.

Except Gene LeBell and Joe Lewis weren't calling Frank Dux the greatest martial artist of his time.

>"W-WE G-GOT HIM C-CORNERED!!!"

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, holy fucking shit, the small dicked Chink cope.

LMAO.

>there's nothing to gain from it
This and really you only stand to lose from it since people sperg out if you tear down and discredit their false idols.

You're right, you do not have an argument. When pushed on something as simple as "okay, what are you looking for?" you can only respond "what indeed!?". Define your terms or pack it up. Google the Tao of Jeet June Do. You can find snippets online, out even quick YouTube videos. I'm doing your work for you at this point.

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>a-appeal to authority, prove it or else
Yet you couldn't prove your claims of being a tall, big tough guy with a picture.

yello boys have completely given up they got mentally broken by white cock

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I mean all you have to do is look at this thread.

>"NO U"
>Defender of JKD can't even define it
>Despite me posting this
>"YOU DON'T KNOW JKD"
No, apparently you don't know it and you're trying to shift blame.

Cope. Find an argument, small dick faggot.

>replying to yourself

>hurr durr yello boys ad hominem

No arguments, huh?

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>Still no argument
>Still no proof

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

if Bruce Lee had access to female hormones he would make a nice trap

kwab

OH NONONONONONONONO

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Cope, Chinkger.

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>T-t-t-t-they're all samefags!
Sorry there's more than a few people on this Earth who won't drink the Hollywood koolade and actually require proof.

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>can't define JKD
>it's literally MMA in the 1970s

Retarded or did you fall on your head as a kid?

oh boy

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>it's literally MMA in the 1970s

Lmao, holy fucking shit. Jesus Christ, I buried you and your last 2 brain cells, god damn.

Antonio Inoki and Ali did more for establishing MMA than Bruce Lee ever did. Bruce is also 130lbs.

He's neither irish or jew so no.

>MS Paint edit

Meanwhile, in reality...

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"Inspect Element" is a thing.

Cope.

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>he doesn't know that Bruce Lee's efforts in changing Kung Fu is what led Joe Lewis and the others to form full-contact Kickboxing Tournaments and led to the formation of MMA in modern times.

Research better.

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>earning a 7th dan black belt and actually being the head of a dojo
I like how you conspicuously leave out what the martial art was.
He was a 7th dan black belt in AIKIDO.
Aikido is the memest of the meme martial arts.

>130 pounds

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Man it's not seething Asians you're responding to, it's people that actually know martial arts history

>What is Pankration?
>What is Vale Tudo?
Cope.

lol Brad Pitt beat him, what a fucking looser

>no arguments

I accept your concession.

indeed. they keep betting on losers too.

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CHINKS SEETHING

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>Sorry there's more than a few people on this Earth who won't drink the Hollywood koolade
>posts in the thread started by Hollywood koolade because some nigger lover got really mad that someone DARED to undermine his god Muhammad Clay and made movie bashing dead chink
really makes me think

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>What is not modern MMA?
>What is Bruce Lee popularizing the concepts in the 20th and 21st Century better than Vale Tudo ever could, which is mostly obscure anyway?

lol cope

>Pankration
like 2000 years old, didn't really affect modern martial arts
>Vale Tudo
Isolated in Brazil and largely unknown until the 90s, but yeah it was a predecessor to UFC

What will chinks do next?

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Amazing how all of these are not arguments lol.

When whiteys start posting this, it only means they have no arguments to share.

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See:

Not post here since Yea Forums is banned in China lmao.

Why are you reposting posts that have already been refuted though?

I saw it, doesn't change anything. You're just going in circles.

Bruce Lee lived and died the life of a coward.

Brucechads win again.

>circular logic fallacy
Are you trying to come up with a logical fallacy bingo game?

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Bruceposting is just OP REEEing whenever Brucechads own him lol.

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Are all chinks autistic to they think the movie was real?
And to they think Bruce Lee was a fighter?

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cope, mutt

Plenty of arguments ITT, you're just ignoring them because they BTFO you.

>refuted
Lol, how exactly?

>POST PICS OF URSELF
>HE SAID AND HE SAID
>HERE'S THIS YT ESSAY

You've refuted nothing.

Neither have these cucks. You've no argument, you've refuted jackshit and I'm tired of repeating myself.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years
Nothing else works as evidence.

>Chink mental gymnastics
Lol.

That's because you still have named no actual techniques that are employed in JKD. There is underlying philosophy, but why isn't what you see Anderson Silva doing JKD? You're watching him time out his opponent, apply principles espoused by Bruce Lee in his writings, have video of him training with a renown practioner of JKD, and still refuse to acknowledge what you're seeing because it's antithetical to your argument (or more accurately, your lack there if). What do you need out of Anderson Silva to go, "oh, there it is!"? A flying kick a la Enter the Dragon? If you are training MMA, you know that it was in its infancy during Lee's lifetime. Most grew up under a "one style, one master" philosophy. You're just repeating yourself, offering zero proof, and crowning yourself the victor. You're either full of shit, or someone trained you wrong on purpose...as a joke.

>Art Davie proposed to John Milius and Rorion Gracie an eight-man single-elimination tournament called "War of the Worlds". The tournament was inspired by the Gracies in Action video-series produced by the Gracie family of Brazil which featured Gracie jiu-jitsu students defeating martial artists of various disciplines such as karate, kung fu, and kickboxing.
Gracie family inspired modern MMA and their roots are in Vale Tudo. Bruce btfo

>still not an argument

Gene LeBell saying that Bruce Lee is a legit martial artist > You believing that Tarantino's movie is a documentary.

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Let's be real here, it's fun arguing with people like this if you're bored, but he doesn't actually care about being reasonable or arguing rationally. It's just trolling to go along with the meme (at least I hope he's not genuinely this dumb).

>redirect posts that have already been refuted
>refuses to believe what MMA and martial arts figureheads said about Bruce Lee
>thinks that unless you have a professional record you can't fight

Absolute brainlet ITT.

So it's impossible to be a legitimate martial artist or trainer without a professional record in your mind?

Yes. To Jackie Chan's credit, he's never pretended to be anything but a stuntman. When people are like "damn Jackie Chan you're so awesome how do you pull off those stunts" he flat out says he does them hundreds of times just to get one success. Bruce Lee was a fake who acted like camera trickery was real and he really could punch as fast as he did in the movies. He was also a shit performer who no sells every hit he takes because he had such a huge ego. Jackie Chan shows himself getting his ass kicked because it's just fucking movies.

who do you think ur talking too, im just talking about white people being superior to asians

Bruce Lee is dead and irrelevant

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>IT'S NOT AN ACTUAL MARTIAL ART MAN, IT'S IN THE ETHER OF PHILOSOPHY BRO
So it has 0 actual applications except "train martial arts that aren't related to Bruce Lee and be healthy", something which athletes have been doing for thousands of years before Lee?

Oh, so it's an irrelevant bunch of incoherent thoughts from a Chink snake oil salesman, got it.

>refuted

Lol, how exactly?

>POST PICS OF URSELF
>HE SAID AND HE SAID
>HERE'S THIS YT ESSAY

Ask anyone who trains it you fucking retard. The culmination of training is applicability, if you can't apply what you train for, it's either useless or you're useless, or both.

Competition is the best way to test it because you're fighting other people who train, not random people in the street.

It's not "in my mind", ask anyone who trains people what is the culmination of training.

Plus, we're not talking about an average Joe here who goes to the gym 3 times a week like I do to stay healthy and learn something useful. We're talking about a mythical figure, "the father of MMA", this guy who did the one inch punch and could beat anyone he would come across. If there's ANYONE that needs to put his money where his mouth is it's him.

Yet he died at 32 and never proved jackshit. Meanwhile you have people who retire from their fighting careers at 32 and this guy has:
>No official bouts
>No records
>No footage of him fighting

Fuck outta here lmao.

>reeeing this hard for the sake of a forced meme
Sweety it would be better for your mental and physical health if you just stop forcing this meme.
I don't want you to become another mass shooter irl.

Bruce never claimed to be the best fighter in the world actually. Pretty much the most he said was “If I tell you I'm good, probably you will say I'm boasting. But if I tell you I'm not good, you'll know I'm lying.”

>not an argument
aaay

>seething
Fucking lol.

Every time that pic gets posted, you absolute retards go on a fit and every thread gets 300+ replies because of your asshurt.

Don't try to turn this around. I'm merely adding fuel to the fire and proving that Bruce Lee was a fraud.

Cope.

Easily the biggest lie in this thread.

>literally who user has a big scoop, Gene LeBell as lying, this MMA brodude actually knows better than Joe Lewis about Bruce Lee

lmao

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So is Michael Jai White a fraud as a martial artist? How about Mas Oyama? Is Cus D'Amato a shitty trainer because he only had one amateur fight (which he lost)? How about Angelo Dundee? There's more ways to be legit in the world of martial arts than just competing.

kek, this

>Br-Bruce Lee was a fraud because you're BTFO me out with proof that he isn't hurr durr

Watch out. Your trolling is getting obvious.

OH NO! BRADDU PITTO! CHINKS ARE MAKING FUN OF ME AGEEN!

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>he died at 32 and never proved all the claims people made about him after he died, this guy must be a fraud

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No one gives a shit what you will call him armchair boomer dad.

Bruce Lee was busy being a legendary world famous cultural icon and actor, and it's outrageous that he didn't make time to fit into the very specific and rigorous testing procedures required to be accepted by losers on a Taiwanese foreskin restoring forum in 2019.

Bruce Lee isn't alive to defend himself against douchebags trying to revise his history decades after he died, and amazingly, the honus is not on people to prove Bruce Lee could actually fight, it's on you to prove in any way that he couldn't in order to support your meme.

Go ahead and larp your little heart out. I could use some good autistic /pol/ screeching.

Not an argument.

>HE SAID AND HE SAID

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>Michael Jai White
He's a practitioner, not a fighter.
>Mas Oyama
>Cus D'Amato
>Angelo Dundee

Training people and having an analytical eye for Martial Arts to the point where you can help someone achieve a professional fighting career of success =/= being a fighter.

None of the people you mention are Martial Artists. You need fights on your record.

It's like saying you're a race car driver and never participating in a race you fucking inbred, like legit what the fuck are you talking about moving these goal posts?

Bruce Lee never said "I'm just a trainer bro". He gave all kinds of excuses not to compete ("I don't like rules, they limit shit") and because he knew he'd get exposed as a snake oil salesman, he never did compete. He said he had a million street fights, other people said the same and a fuck ton of legit martial artists said "oh he was legit yeah" because there's nothing to gain from kicking this fucking retard Chink down (look at this thread where anonymous people get mad at anonymous people, imagine a public figure speaking ill of Lee).

What the fuck are we talking about here?

>T-TROLLING
Holy fucking cope lmao.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Cope.

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That would you need to see Anderson Silva further demonstrate in order to get your JKD seal of approval. This is really easy, and the only reason you cannot answer is because you do not know what you're looking for. Prove me wrong, or you suck cock by choice.

Bait??

He was developed at chuteboxe. U know, famous for its muay thai. And then with the nog brothers. He was no doubt a fan of Bruce lee, but this is like when he said seagal was training. A gimmick for fun/promotion

You shouldnt talk if you don't know

the scene is supposed to be loosely based on how gene met lee

>Anderson Silva trained with Steven Segal for fun
>No use of Aikido in the Octagon

>Anderson Silva trained JKD for fun
>No use of JKD in the Octagon

You can't define the martial art the dead Chink con man "invented", yet you come here asking people to define it for you?

See

I'm not claiming he's a fighter, I'm claiming he was legitimately talented as a practitioner and theorist, and not a fraud. And frankly the competitions back then were very limiting, since the most martial artist of his type were doing back then were point sparring tournaments without full-contact, so that's a good reason to not be interested. I don't agree at all with your take on it that him not competing makes him a snake oil salesman. He never made outrageous claims like having a million street fights.

>Not an argument
Of course. I don't think anyone would argue on the contrary, you lying fatty. You probably sweat when you breathe.

After having reading this whole thread from start to finish it's sadly proven beyond all doubt that Bruce Lee was a fraud and a cowardly piece of shit. Fuck Bruce Lee, I believed in you and you pissed in my face.

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All this screeching and still no proof Bruce Lee was not the great fighter multitudes of unconnected people said he was.

I don't think it is, pretty sure it's just loosely similar to how Gene met Lee. Nothing confirming at least that Tarantino based it on that event. Would be interesting if he did though.

>I suck cock by choice

We know, user. Think it's hereditary.

I didn't even read your post but it reeks of pathetic desperation.
Please stop for your own sake.
You're going to end up on the news at this rate.

It had the opposite affect for me. Showed me that Lee was no fraud and in all likelihood lives up to most of the hype.

>all this screeching and still no proof of Jesus Crhist not being the omnipotent being and son of God multitudes of unconnected people said he was

>legitimately talented as a practitioner and a theorist
So it's fucking nothing? Cool.

>competitions back then were very limiting
As they are today. UFC changed that, but before UFC there was Vale Tudo and before that Pankration. There's rulesets to keep it legitimate as a sport, to go beyond the ruthless human cockfighting they have in the Russian underground where people fight to the death.

Lee couldn't cope with any of the rules so he never competed? Give me a fucking break. Look in your heart of hearts, you know deep down he would be exposed if he competed. There's footage of Bob Fitzsimmons fighting, yet Bruce fucking Lee has none of it? Means he never fought. How can you claim something is useful if you never put it to the test?

This is some Tai Chi level shit.

>He never made outrageous claims like having a million street fights
The number is a hyperbole, obviously. The rest isn't.

Not an argument.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years
Go ahead, prove it.

Not an argument.

Not an argument.

And?

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You dense motherfucker

>Mas Oyama
>Not a martial artist

Miyamoto Musashi doesn't make the cut by this metric. Remove yourself.

The sparring video showcases none of all the crazy legends that were spread about him.

It's anyone's guess. The setting matches very well. I still don't understand why are people buttblasted about that scene though.

This thread is a good look into the mind of your average asian incel, truly the most pathetic creature imaginable

So afterwards then. One would assume he'd only gotten better over the years, no?

Not an argument.

If he has a fighting record that is fool proof, if he has official bouts, if he competed, if he fought professionally, then yes, he is a Martial Artist.

If not, he's simply someone who practices it.

>Miyamoto Musashi
An overhyped Jap enveloped in legend and myth? Is that who you're going for to prove Bruce Lee is "legit"?

You Chinks are getting desperate.

The reality is not many people are actually that buttblasted about it. Maybe Lee's daughter and some of his friends, but otherwise there's just some people who said they didn't like the scene or found it weird and then moving on. These threads being spammed gives the impressions there's more butthurt than there actually is.

Had to screenshot this level of seethe. Maximum tantrum, holy shit. I thought it was the Asians that were supposed to flip out in these threads.

Screenshot all you want, you can't prove it wrong.

Go post it to your Subreddit, Eurasian "Tiger" lmao.

This. Hilarious watching him melt down because he can't understand basic logic.

>Still not an argument
Lol cope Chinks.

Yeah, he got better by all accounts.

You're probably right, although Tarantino himself did comment on the negative response to that scene, so it's probably not that minor either.

Shaddap, fat boy. I didn't force you to embarrass yourself.

Not an argument.

Eh, the media blows up all kinds of minor bullshit nowadays. All him commenting on it means is that he saw the articles or that somebody asked him about it.

>dude replying to posts in a concise manner
>seething
fucking retard

When you gotta redefine words because reading the dictionary is too hard.

>that's concise
the dude is rambling basically

Not an argument.

Cope.

To be fair, Jackie was also raised in a Peking Opera House school, a terribly grueling enviroment for a child. If he made it through that, he is a badass in my eyes.

So why no video of his superhuman abilities now that he had the means? At the very least future generations of JKD would have benefitted immensly from an actual demonstration as opposed to a bunch of hearsay.

Stay calm and check tinder, hapa, this month's subscription will surely result in the 5/0 4'8 chubby mexican girl for u, then u fuk her and u can call people incels 100 times a day on Yea Forums knowing that you just got that yummy pucci

Why you mad though?

>a bloo bloo bloo
I imagine this is just what it'd be like if you were to step into the ring: you getting stomped for minutes at a time.

>he is a badass in my eyes.
Undeniable I'd say.
Plus Jackie Chan didn't get killed by a fucking aspirin lol

Why only one video of Gene LeBell competing though? Are you going to argue he's a fraud too?

Not an argument.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

I got a girlfriend, lady-killer. I'll even post a picture with her if you post a picture with yours :^)

>Whataboutism

>Why only one video of Gene LeBell competing though
That's one more than Bruce Lee ever had.

Not even the guy you're arguing with, but you're a moron lmao.

We already posted the arguments that you haven't refuted though.

We're not just making fun of you until you actually refute the arguments we've posted, angery little white boy.

UFC is less limiting than point sparring karate. He wasn't dodging competition, it's just not the path he took in life.
>you know deep down he would be exposed if he competed
I doubt it. Chuck Norris and other top competitors from back then who sparred with him said he was great and probably would have been champion. People who sparred with him also all consistently talk about how great his timing and speed was, and those are the traits you need to excel at point sparring tournaments. I know that doesn't prove anything, but it's all speculation anyway. In my opinion he would have done great.

And you're around now, insisting you're a fighter yourself. Let's see proof.

It's not a whataboutism it's a clear comparison of double standards. You're good with Gene LeBell because Gene LeBell is white.

>That's one more than Bruce Lee ever had.
Bruce Lee had a video though. You didn't do your research, shameful.

/pol/ the post.

Claim legendary non-white anglo saxon character is actually no good at what he was lauded the world over for.

Offer no proof whatsoever that backs up these claims, and then screech that people need to prove that your elaborate concocted fairy tale is not real.

Man died young, and did not have a chance to reach his full potential.

Hey did you know John Lennon was completely spent and his next three albums after he died were going to be shit? Prove that those albums he didn't live long enough to make were not shit. It's pretty clear based on an arbitrary set of judging principles I invented myself that it is so, and now you need to prove me wrong.

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Look at the amount of white boi seethe here after all the Brucechads got him BTFO lmao.

Not an argument

You have:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 100 years

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People were all providing him evidence after he asked for it, and when he got it he trolled them by saying:

>appeal to authority

Like a retard. He asked for the proof and when he got it, he waves it off. He truly is just a troll.

Someone make sure this guy doesn't own any guns. He's nearing peak seethe.

>ch-chinks are mad...

Meanwhile, the OP of the Bruce posts is actually this guy lmao.

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That's fucked up, man. Helmet-head is clearly in a wheelchair, rocking that stylish blue brain armor. He is aware of his handicap, unlike this seething user.

Pathetic, isn't it?

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>less limiting
He was arguing that anything that wasn't full out no holds barred human cock fighting was "limiting".

>He wasn't dodging competition
Lol?

>it's just not the path he took in life
So the race car driver who trains constantly for driving race cars in races never ever EVER races a car in his life. In fact, he doesn't even use a car anymore but argues that all races (horse races, motorcycle races, F1, rally, Nascar) should be one race and says he knows a lot.

But all this without ever racing himself.

>I doubt it
Fucking lel.

>Sparred
>Sparred
>Sparred
>He said and he said

There's nothing to gain from kicking Bruce Lee down. Again, look at this thread. This is anons getting mad at anons, imagine the shitstorm talking about Bruce Lee in an ill manner would cause these people.

Matter of fact is:

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

That's it.

>You're good with Gene LeBell because Gene LeBell is white
Fucking lmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaao. Holy fucking shit, now we've come full circle, this is why you're so retarded, you're a braindead redditor.

Some of my favourite fighters are niggers, am I also hating on them because they're not White?

This is some retarded "logic" you're pushing. I'm calling a fraud a fraud, you retarded Chink.

>Bruce Lee had a video though
Ah yes, the Bigfoot tier "footage" where it's argued that it's actually Joe Lewis and not Bruce Lee. That the video?

Yeah, cope.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>Man died young, and did not have a chance to reach his full potential.
There's Martial Artists retiring at the age he died after a full career.

Cope.

>NO U
Lol.

Not an argument.

LeBell has records of winning various tournaments. Also no one ever made the kind of claims about him that were made about Lee. People said LeBell was a very good Judoka and based on the video and his records, I can believe that. If someone claimed he was an invincible fighting genius that revolutionized martial arts forever, I would call bullshit too.

>not an argument
>gets presented with proof
>th-they're lying

You're not a clown, you're the entire circus.

This.

What proof?

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

What fucking proof?

all these seethe lmao

meanwhile, joe lewis, dana white, conor mcgregore, gene lebell, and even mike tyson all give credit to bruce lee being a legit martial artist

youtube.com/watch?v=nvBCBXBgr44

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>this

So you confirm that LeBell is not a fraud yet you claim he's lying when he literally says that Bruce Lee is a world-class martial artist?

youtube.com/watch?v=dJoCtd_cblQ

>BUT HE SAID AND HE SAID
Again, there's 0 benefit from badmouthing Lee. For the nth time, this is anonymous people getting mad at anonymous people that someone would even QUESTION the mythical status Lee has.

What the fuck do you think would happen if a public figure spoke ill of him?

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>Strawman

>He was arguing that anything that wasn't full out no holds barred human cock fighting was "limiting".
But the post he was responding to wasn't talking about that. It was talking about 60s martial arts competitions being limiting.
>So the race car driver who trains constantly for driving race cars in races never ever EVER races a car in his life. In fact, he doesn't even use a car anymore but argues that all races (horse races, motorcycle races, F1, rally, Nascar) should be one race and says he knows a lot.
>But all this without ever racing himself.
Sure. As shown earlier in this thread, many people have been provably knowledgeable and skilled in martial arts without competing.
>He wasn't dodging competition
>Lol?
He was dodging competition in the same way Cus D'Amato dodged competition. You can't just say everybody who isn't a professional fighter is "dodging competition"
>he said and he said
Yes. As I said, it's just speculation. Fun to think about based on what we have, but ultimately meaningless.

see the videos made by Joe Lewis, Gene LeBell, Mike Tyson, Bas Rutten, Eddie Bravo, and Conor McGregor about Bruce Lee.

youtube.com/watch?v=dJoCtd_cblQ
youtube.com/watch?v=AXdG577px94
youtube.com/watch?v=k2XV431fblk
youtube.com/watch?v=iRP3gillEQI
youtube.com/watch?v=8P0JcXLI_Yk

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AAAAAAAAAAA BRADU STOP!

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>confirms that these people are martial artists
>but doesn't believe what they're saying

I'm taking their word over some jackoff on Yea Forums any day.

Nobody is getting mad at you questioning the mythical status. Everybody here seems to agree with you that there's exaggerated myths about him. But you're claiming he's a total fraud and con-artist, which is absurd.

You have:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of you fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 100 years

Cough it up or shut up.

based
this
cringe

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>people who reply to me must be mad herp derp
By that logic, since you're replying to everyone, you must be reeeeeeeaaaaalllly mad lmao.

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inb4 muh appeal to authority

>What the fuck do you think would happen if a public figure spoke ill of him?
It's not like there weren't people praising him even before he was super famous. You can see champions like Louis Delgado praising his sparring ability back in like 1968 issues of Black Belt magazine. Back then he was known as Kato, but it was a sidekick role on one TV show. He was hardly the icon he is today.

they were both his students, Lee praised his master, Ip Man no shit
cope harder yellow

I'm not claiming he's lying. All I'm saying is that hearsay is not a reliable source when it comes to these things, especially if concrete proof would have been easy enough to deliver.

Fukken cry Moar. You can QQ all day, but your opinion is worth shit all compared to the likes of Joe Lewis, Gene LeBell, Mike Tyson, and Chuck Norris; all of whom advocate for Bruce Lee's martial prowess. Go back to getting winded while working the speedbag at your local YMCA.

This is what happens when memers take Bruceposting memes too seriously.

Butthurt chinks

>they were both his students,
Is Mike Tyson, Conor McGregor, Bas Rutten, and Dana White students of Bruce Lee too or will you find a new place to hang your moving goalpost?

>everyone who gets me BTFO is a chink
I guess chinks do have a higher IQ than whites lmao.

You can keep screeching the same three lines the entire thread and make many others, but the fact remains that that is not the only way to judge someone's fighting ability.

He was assessed by a large section of his peers, none of whom raised any concerns during his life of him being a fraud.

Lee was given a set of life options that included many more exciting opportunities than punching on in a ring, which he took and it turned out he didn't have much lifetime to live, and made the right choice not choosing to live his entire life in dedication to appeasing whiners in 2019 rewriting his history.

Please post your proof of Bruce Lee not being a great fighter, we are all still waiting...

>60s martial arts competitions being limiting
Yet there's people with official records and footage of them fighting. Limiting or not, Bruce Lee had the chance to compete and he didn't.

>Sure
So this mythical figure that everyone says "HE WOULD'VE WIPED COMPETITIONS IF HE DID COMPETE", this guy with the famous one inch punch, this guy who is said to have beaten hundreds of people in street fights, this guy who would've fucked up everyone (allegedly). This guy has NOTHING to back it up, but only that, you say he DOESN'T have to back it up?

Ok?

>Cus D'Amato
Read above. It's not comparable. No one is saying Cus D'Amato would've fucked up everyone, no one is calling him the GOAT Martial Artist, Cus fucking D'Amato doesn't have the status of Bruce Lee. It's not even Apples and Oranges, it's fucking Minerals and Blood Cells.

>speculation
Shouldn't even be that.

>HE SAID HE SAID

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

0 benefit from badmouthing Lee.

Cope.

0 benefit from badmouthing Lee.

Not an argument.

>which is absurd
Sure thing, Frank Dux.

Not an argument.

>sparring ability
Lol.

Not an argument.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Bounce outta here white boy

Nah, btfo fatties

>I'm not claiming he's lying. All I'm saying is that hearsay is not a reliable source
>hearsay
>a martial artist claiming that a guy is legit is hearsay

You don't even know what words mean anymore.

>that is not the only way to judge someone's fighting ability

So how would you judge someone's fighting ability if they don't fight?

Are you fucking retarded? This has to be b8, either that or you're from a low IQ Asian shit hole and you've gotten internet access recently.

>THIS GUY WOULD BE THE BEST FUCKING RACE CAR DRIVER EVER IF HE RACED
>Why didn't he race?
>FUCK YOU PROVE HE WOULDN'T REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Lol?

Cope.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

I dont care about Bruce Lee but i like all this chink butthurt

>i-it's not comparable because I say so
We only agree with you that Bruce Lee isn't a GOAT martial artist but the rest of your claims that he's a complete fraud has you spinning and whirring something fierce. You know you're wrong and you took the Tarantino meme too seriously.

>Sure thing, Frank Dux.
Frank Dux doesn't have Joe Lewis, Gene LeBell, Mike Tyson, Bas Rutten, Eddie Bravo, and Conor McGregor vouching for Bruce Lee,

>0 benefit from badmouthing Lee.
>Not an argument.

The only thing you're right about is you saying "there's zero benefit badmouthing Bruce Lee" isn't an argument.

You're going in circles again.

Not just some random martial artist, or just his students either. A ton of the competitors and pioneers from the American martial arts scene vouch for him with consistent accounts.

Tyson would melt Lee like he was feta cheese lol

Jesus is real everyone, because some guys said so.

"Don't fucking question it, what the fuck? JUST ACCEPT IT, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING QUESTIONING THIS 135LBS MUUUUUUUUUUUNSTER?

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE STOP

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

That's what you sound like. Cope, small dick.

>HEHE LE MEME
Tarantino was yet to make any movie this decade and I was already arguing this. There's several people across the world doing the same, this isn't new. Just because it's the first time you came in contact with it, it doesn't mean it's the first time it's spoken.

Fucking cope, Chink.

>HE SAID
Not an argument.

There's 0 benefit from badmouthing Lee.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Cope.

This, it's ok man you can take a rest now

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>So how would you judge someone's fighting ability if they don't fight?

Wong Jack Man had plenty to say about Bruce Lee's fighting abilities. Read between the lines.

>reddit

>spacing

>Read between the lines
Lel.

half the people you mentioned vouching for him never saw him fight ever cope harder chink

>Tyson would melt Lee like he was feta cheese lol

Tyson also says Bruce Lee is his idol and he always does his best to be as fast as he is. So whose word do I take? Tyson or yours, which are words of a shitposter?

Cross-referencing all the accounts of that fight, it's pretty obvious Wong Jack Man lost. He just wasn't happy that he had different ideas about what they were doing going into the match and maybe didn't like that he tripped backwards at the end of it.

There probably isn't a single Chinaman in this thread. There's definitely some butthurt fatty writing volumes of encyclopedia rather than accept his shame. Maybe the Japanese had it right. They commit harakiri when they get this completely shamed rather than forcing everyone around them to deal with their whinging.

You take the word of physics.

Tyson was a heavyweight who regularly melted 120kg / 265lbs people with his shots.

Lee was a 135lbs midget who never fought in his life.

You do the math which one would win that fight.

Weight classes exist for a reason.

>"Don't fucking question it, what the fuck? JUST ACCEPT IT, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING QUESTIONING THIS 135LBS MUUUUUUUUUUUNSTER?

1st off, not one of them said he's a monster. They merely said he was legit. I will also always take their word over some jackoff on Yea Forums memeing the Tarantino fight scene too hard.

They trained and sparred with him. Again, nobody is trying to argue he was the best fighter ever in this thread. Just that he was a talented martial artist.

not an argument, Tyson is on par with his speed + his insane punching power = dead chink

>half the people you mentioned vouching for him never saw him fight
Ah so that's where the goalpost went.

Meanwhile, you're saying Gene LeBell and Joe Lewis, people who did see him fight, are "too biased" to give a solid account.

Bravo on the shifting goal posts.

>They merely said he was legit
What benefit would come to them by saying otherwise?

Meanwhile,
Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

VERY legit (only hypothetically, not demonstrably, fuck no, not that, the guy never fought in his life, what are you mad??).

I like the meme but if you actually tell this to someone IRL, they would laugh in your face. Seagal can't come even remotely close to Lee in any capacity.

So basically, what you are saying is if you were in a bar ranting about Bruce Lee and calling everyone who disagreed with you 'chinks' and someone decided to kick the living shit out of you and remove all of your teeth, that person would not actually be able to fight unless they did it on camera with a referee and a crowd and panel of judges. Gotcha.

Yeah, I hope nobody actually takes it that far. That's going full retard.

No, that's what you are saying.

Cope.

>physics
Is this climate change denialism?

You're denying climate change because of "muh appeal to authority" even though you have no authorities saying otherwise about Bruce Lee?

>What benefit would come to them by saying otherwise?

Appeal to motive. Get a better argument.

No, that person would not be able to remove his teeth because one of user's many chins would deflect the blow.

>disproving the credibility of "witness testimonies" is moving goal posts
cope

No, that's what you're saying clearly. You're calling everyone disagreeing with you either chinks or martial artists who haven't seen Bruce Lee fight or Bruce Lee's students so they're biased.

Try harder.

I can see myself saying this for bantz, but if you put me through a lie detector, it's a different story. I'd imagine that rings true for most anons ITT. Deep down they know it's just a meme.

>moving goalposts is a logical argument rather than a logical fallacy
>c-cope

I accept your concession. Please come up with a non-logical fallacy in your next argument or else you'll just be conceding more that you have no arguments.

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im not even the guy you're arguing with lole

He also ran through the whole gamut of logical fallacies like a tard who can't debate out of a wet paperbag.

Disappointing.

>N-Not me

loool

>All this fucking strawman about climate change

Fucking lol? So you're denying the existence of physics and weight classes?

No wonder you bought into fake Chink Kung Fu shit, you're dead behind the eyes.

>Still not answering the question when there's demonstrable proof that a shitstorm would surface if anyone badmouthed Lee
Lol. Cope.

>CLEARLY, bro. Fucking CLEARLY, you hear?

Not an argument. Cope.

>Fucking lol? So you're denying the existence of physics and weight classes?
Fucking lol? So you're denying that there are more authorities arguing for the greatness of Bruce Lee rather than calling him a fraud, so you're the martial arts equivalent of a climate denier?

Allright, let's not argue semantics. Call it whatever you want. My point is people (even well respected people) saying they saw something can not be counted as proof. There could be a million reasons for them giving those accounts, from being influenced by their preconception over lack of expertise in the particular style he was displaying to not wanting to destroy the myth. Not to mention that after his death tarnishing his reputation would have been straight up tactless.

Nahh, lol, Lee was the real deal, ain't no denying it unless you're a brainlet. That being said the fact that this triggered so many people is hilarious.

>CLEARLY, bro. Fucking CLEARLY, you hear?
>Not an argument. Cope.

O RLY? Your strawman argument version of my argument isn't an argument? No shit,dude.

Now try quoting me without strawmanning me.

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What the fuck kind of gamut are you talking about? I didn't even reply to you dumb fuck

>here could be a million reasons for them giving those accounts, from being influenced by their preconception over lack of expertise in the particular style he was displaying to not wanting to destroy the myth. Not to mention that after his death tarnishing his reputation would have been straight up tactless.

Appeal to motive. Come up with a better argument.

It's true the precise extent of his abilities is unknowable at this point, but evidence suggests he was hugely talented. Even if you don't believe those accounts at all for some reason, you still have his physique, his writings and his movies. That alone is enough to make him great.

And not all the praise came after his death anyway.

OP has more chins than Bruce's chinese new year party guest list you say?

Literally all over the internet. Just google "bruce lee feats" or sth, I ain't gonna spoonfeed ya

Bruce Lee helping revive Pancrase in MMA form for the modern era in ways that Vale Tudo couldn't, for one thing.

OP has a jell-o chin. He should take up boxing.

>authorities

Meanwhile,
Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

You could hear Joel Schumacher say one of his buddies would be the best F1 ever if they raced. Then some guys who never even saw or met that buddy would say the same.

This is, somehow, enough for you to make an opinion about something. You're legit a low IQ ape and a gullible retard who will, hopefully, grow up one day.

>LE STRAWMAN
You're yet to make an argument. I'm waiting.

That's now how appeal to motive works, braindead Chink.

Cope.

That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed in the same manner.

"He said" is not an argument.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

I thought this guy was fishing for (you)s, but I can't imagine that's the case anymore. I mean, it's no great feat when you're half the replies in the thread.

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Yeah, well Chael Sonnen and Brendan Schaub think Bruce Lee is a fraud.

youtube.com/watch?v=w4rBq2ejFHk
youtube.com/watch?v=G-Gj-I8HHQ4

Cope.

>posts the same replies that have been refuted half a thread ago
lol post something new

Not an argument lol.
We accept your concession.

>"Refuted"
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

>Copying this "I accept your concession" I first posted on this website
Lmao, you're 100% someone I said that too and now you're trying to use it yourself.

Holy fucking cope lmao.

>Chael "jobber to the stars" Sonnen
>Brendan "his ground game is better than his standup" Schaub
>knowing anything about Bruce Lee

loooooooooool

I know you're not agreeing with him, but it's funny that Chael also calls Norris a fraud. So I guess Lee competing back then wouldn't have made a lick of difference considering Chuck was a world champion.

Nah, it's still for you's. Literally everyone and their grandma knows of Bruce Lee's ahievements. Pick a random person on the street and they know.
With Seagal most people know he was a fraud. Even pussied out of the Van Damme fight.

>You're yet to make an argument. I'm waiting.
If you're going to greentext my arguments into Strawmen, then of course you'll never see my arguments. How about quoting them directly like I am instead misrepresenting them?

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Not an argument.

It has been refuted by Bas Rutten, Mike Tyson, et al. Real fightes and the people who helepd MMA propagate despite you saying Bruce Lee didn't propagate shit.

Recognizing the fact that verbal accounts don't carry the same weight as physical evidence is not appealing to the motive.

See Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Cope.

Pointing out that you're Strawmanning my arguments is an argument, retard lol.

Saying they carry no weight is silly though

Under Siege is a great movie

>Make an argument
>PHFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF WHAT FOR YOU'RE GONNA BE A MEANIE???
>Okay so don't make an argument.
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NIGGER THAT IS AN ARGUMENT REEEEEEEEEE
Ok?

Both those guys have more martial arts background and experience than Bruce "I have no fight record" Lee.

I've heard it's good. If anything these threads make me want to watch more martial arts flicks. They also made me appreciate Bruce Lee a lot more.

I'd take their word on Bruce Lee over some jackoff on Yea Forums taking a meme a bit too seriously.

To his credit, Seagal is great at aikido. The only problem is that Seagal wanted to play the badass, and if you're gonna play that part, you'd better have more than aikido to your credit. People forget that "art" part of martial arts. It isn't all supposed to be about putting people into the ground. Spiritual refinement and the pursuit of self-perfection is just as important depending upon the style. Seagal's persona is antithetical to what aikido is about.

Not him, but tons of people in the MMA world have said great things about bruce so your argument is a double edged sword.

See and Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

Cope.

Oh look. More Strawman non-arguments. Check back again when you have an argument about Bruce Lee, mmkay?

>more martial arts background
Nah.
>more experience
More experience fighting competitively, sure. But Lee has contributed a lot more to the world and is more talented than people like Brendan Shaub ever will be.

He isn't great at jack shit. Have you seen any of his videos? He's easily the least credible movie tough guy there ever was.

I sort of feel bad about stuff like that. Like you said, Seagal got to be great at Aikido. It just happens that Aikido is pretty shit for actual fighting.

Both those guys are shit-stains compared to the fight records of Joe Lewis, Mike Tyson, Bas Rutten, and Conor McGregor, lmao.

Not an argument.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

^ Cope.

>saying cope for 400 posts
that's a major yikes from me

Peak NPC. He's on permanent repeat lmao.

I think I broke his A.I. looool.

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I don't know why people need Bruce Lee to have been some kind of super legit master fighter. He made cool movies, that's all that was required of him

There is no physical evidence for a ton of shit, but we already know it happened.
Just cause there's no footage of Audie Murphy killing people doesn't mean he didn't.

see NPC loooool.

Yeah. He was an awesome martial artist, teacher, and movie star, and that alone is enough to make him great.

No, his aikido is pretty top shelf. It's just... it's aikido. It's a style invented by a former soldier that says he could see golden rays that indicated the trajectory of an opponent's attack. The art itself is steeped deeply in the art, and not weighed against practicality.

He wasn't super legit or anything, but when you start saying it was literally all some and mirrors it's just false.

Just because you can't accept people vouching for Bruce Lee as a legit martial artist, doesn't mean that people should take your retardation seriously.

Exactly. I think people forget what the world was like before everybody had cell phones and the internet. Not to mention even today a lot of stuff goes unrecorded.

Not an argument.

>NO UR THE NPC
Yeah, the guy who questions the status quo and doesn't believe Chink fairy tales is the NPC, not the retards who buy into it.

That's a projection if I ever saw one.

Fucking LMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO.

False equivalence.

I don't get that either. Like, yeah, the guy was a big movie star. Of course his image is embellished

I'd call him super legit honestly, just not in the way some people think of him.

Hello, NPC-kun. You've moved the goalpost to "H-He's just a movie star" now because you couldn't handle all the proof being thrown at your face, huh?

>not an argument
have sex

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>Q-Questions the status quo

So you're one of the flatearthers then looooooool

>resorts to circlejerking themselves

Pathetic lol.

What's the false equivalence?
We're speaking of shit that happened before the age of everything being recorded.
Someone doesn't just become as big as Lee in his sphere by being a complete con man. Otherwise it'd be a known fact like it is with Seagal.

Nit enough to justify the myths. I'd be willing to believe that he was a decent fighter in his weight class. But all the stuff about soloing entire dojos, winning any tournament no problem and beating professional heavyweights would need something a lot more concrete to back it up.

Yeah, let's talk about the fairy tales about vaccines, the earth being round, the moon landing, and climate change being false lol.

Is this guy going to everyday say he was just pretending to be retarded before the thread reaches post limit?

Yeah, the fact that so many major figures in the martial arts world respected him, even before he was famous, says a lot. No doubt in my mind he was hugely talented and could fight well. But he achieved so much in life beyond that, he'd still be great even if that weren't the case somehow.

NPC-kun mad about being called NPC lol.

inb4 not an argument lmao

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Not an argument.

>before the age of everything being recorded

There's footage of fights from the late 19th Century.

There's footage of fights in the Chuck Norris era.

There's footage of Martial Arts competitions long before Bruce Lee even walked.

There's 0 excuse for it not being footage of him fighting, other than him not actually fighting.

Lee has:
>No officiated bouts
>No official record
>No actual footage of him fighting in an era where combat sports had been recorded for at least 60 years

>all the stuff about soloing entire dojos, winning any tournament no problem and beating professional heavyweights would need something a lot more concrete to back it up
That's totally reasonable, I think everybody agrees with you there.

While posting BRADU NOOO memes, yes.

ya called it looooooool

Not an argument

>Questioning the validity of a con man is comparable to questioning science

This is your mind on Rhinocerus horn powder, ladies and gentlemen.
This is the mind of of autistic Chinks lmao.

>"NO U"
Lol.

I dunno, was Steven Seagal ever upstaged in a movie to the extent that Lee was by Jim Kelly

So? There's footage of Bruce Lee having an actual match and footage of him trying out his flying kicks on a heavybag.

Not sure what your point is.

>con man
You're con man claim has been completely debunked. You've lost this thread, and you've lost at 4channel.