Dune

>had to put the first book down after 200 pages
it was so fucking boring

which is why I'm fine with Zendaya-Chani as the trade-off to get normies to come

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So what's the deal with the worms?

They produce a magical drug that moves the plot

Sci-Fi channel summed it up best
>Arrakis ... Dune ... wasteland of the Empire, and the most valuable planet in the universe. Because it is here—and only here—where spice is found. The spice. Without it there is no commerce in the Empire, there is no civilization. Arrakis ... Dune ... home of the spice, greatest of treasure in the universe. And he who controls it, controls our destiny.

Is this series worth reading?

I read all 6 books, short answer: no. Interesting plot and intrigue of the first one gives way to meandering philosophizing about dude drugs lmao enhance your mind lol in the subsequent books.

if the alternative is wachting capeshit/star wars, the answer is yes

Paul with his hand in the box, burning, agonizing pain, knowing that if he takes his hand out the Reverend Mother will stick a poison needle into his neck? yeah, that's so fucking tedious.

> you're an idiot

why is the spice so valuable?
does it have military or energy applications?
or is it literally a fucking spice that you season your fucking food with?

youtube.com/watch?v=2B6jgkcANRE

it slows down aging, prolongs life and gives guild navigators the ability to fold space

Brainlet.
It is a sci-if version of medieval historical fiction, warring nobility, dukes and kings fighting about about inhiradinces, all under a federation like the Holy Roman Empire. Diplomats are spies, queens are married off from other nobility families and often have grudges and maybe traitors. But lol nobility can only marry nobility. There is a religious organization with its own goals and power structure.
The space allows time-folding which is how they travel between different planets(kingdoms), think of it like oil mining. It isn’t really a big plot point at least not in first book, except if you breath too much of it it turns whites of your eyes blue and may give gifted people spiritual powers(wizards). It is made by sand worms(dragons)

Normies will see because it has a giant meme cast, and the trailer will be normie bait
>Sand worm pops out at the end of the trailer
>BWAAAAAM
>Summer 2020
Screencap this

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It is a drug that enhances the mind. The navigators of interplanetary ships use it to navigate space at high speeds. Without spice, space travel becomes extremely difficult. Also they can’t use computers because those were all destroyed by humanity centuries ago.

In the distant future but before the events of Dune humans destroyed and outlawed all AI during the Butlerian Jihad which made computers necessary for space travel banned. With the discovery of spice, the Navigators, who after consuming copious amounts of spice were able to navigate through space, emerged.

He who controls the spice controls the universe is literal - without spice the interstellar travel is impossible.

inb4 Villeneuve use a heavy handed analogy for spice ("dude spice is petrodollar lmao" or some shit)

I already reject it based on casting alone.

Dune books 1-3 are an insanely long build up to book 4, God Emperor of Dune. It's the movie actual Dune fans want, they will never get far enough in a movie franchise to do it however. By the time of that book The Atreides lineage has ended up with Leto II being a Demigod worm monster that experiences 100,000s of dead ancestors memories and personalities at once. The entire book is mostly from his perspective, I don't know how it would translate to film. But Dunan Idaho becomes a main character that is cloned again and again for thousands of years, so it explains the fucking absolutely tone deaf casting of Aquaman, though all Duncan does in the first book is get shot in the head and die.

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Brainlet

Wow, this all sounds pretty rad. I'm gonna check the library tomorrow for the first book. I was looking for something kinda heavy to dive into. Thanks anons!

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>literally just a fucking spice

Daily reminder that one of the first international mega corporations, responsible for the rise of the dutch empire, the decline of numerous asian empires and deaths of tens to hundreds of thousands of people, was literally all about some fucking food seasoning

yeah in the same way oil is literally a fucking oil that you grill vegetables in

>computers necessary for space travel
If we go with Gerbert's son trilogy on Butlerian Jihad, even humans weren't too dumb to ban spaceship computer systems. But even AI based navigation systems were insufficient for instantaneous spacewarp of proto-Guild.

end of book 3
>fuck yeah
start of book 4, 10 000 years later
>this is my shit

>Wow, this all sounds pretty rad. I'm gonna check the library tomorrow for the first book. I was looking for something kinda heavy to dive into. Thanks anons!
No, you don't.
It's an offhand backstory detail, it doesn't mean the whole hexalogy is interesting.
>If we go with Gerbert's son trilogy on Butlerian Jihad,
Dune is overrated as it is, but this is a while another level of shit eating.

Herbert's son's novels are trash. His Daniel and Marty contradicts what Herbert wrote.

High School was so long ago, I've only recently been actively interested in history. Bored to tears of it in high school. I totally needed that reminder.

and we still unironically call it the golden age

Space Jihad and the application of the Qur'an and Hadiths galaxy wide

Jesus shows up to the middle east and leads them on a jihad against the united states, he wins and declares himself president of the world.

DUNE will probably get praised with 100% critical acclaim and win the Best Picture Oscar..

I'm just trying to rationally think on the game plan behind the production.. It really seems like they're trying to strategically create a new classic.. People will talk about Dune in 2025-2030 like they do LotR as far as prestige and love.

Will villeneuve's dune be the first adaptation to finally fucking remember house Ordos?

"Ordos" was made up for the game, absolute mong.

it's all made up, you fucking hobbit-looking british berk

>British
?

Chernobyl didnt have epic scenes (scale-wise).
If its good, its good. If its not, its not.

Here, I got you. You oblivious bastards.

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This takes place on one planet or many?

I always had Dune recommended to me as a fantasy series, not sci-fi.

If you haven't read Dune then they shouldn't let you watch the movie, you don't deserve it.

but i just want to see timmy in a tight latex stillsuit

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It's the poor man's 40k.
Herbert fags will seeth at this but it's true.

First book is mostly one planet.

Jodorowsky's Dune would have been even better than the source material itself.

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wrong.

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lol he's right you know

jodorowsky's dune would have been sidetracked by eunuch amputees, Dali preening about as the Emperor and Harkonnen troops taking a mass shit on the landing field at Arrakeen.

duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered/16

>duneinfo.com/unseen/jodorowskys-dune-uncovered/16

Glorious.

Upvoted

Is Paul dyel in the first book?

no, blinded he goes into the desert as per fremen custom in book 2 and wanders about as a prophet in book 3.

>years into the future
>The world is literally run like middle age

lol

Did the writer even think this out

It was made up in the sense that they aren't involved in the first book.

Herbert wanted sci-fi without robots and computers.

It's about exploring what humanity does when left to its own means without the aid of an alien intellect or the existence of AI. Basically human intellectual capabilities stretched to its limits in a sci-fi setting that explores the political, religious and philosophical aspects of such a universe. Prescience is a major plot point in it.

Their perspiration is space LSD, later they possess fragments of intellect of Leto II, the God Emperor, who is practically the consciousness of the entire human race.

Interstellar travel, prescience, long life, mental enhancement, tastes like cinnamon.

Reread the series, book 3 and 4 are trash in comparison to the first 2.

There is no mention of House Ordos in any of Frank's books.

He's described to be small for his age, as are most Atreides. Later he gets toned as a skinny desert terrorist.

Dune encyclopedia is fanfiction. It's respectful of the source material and more respectable than what Brian shat out, but Frank had nothing to do with it. I doubt he read it completely.

Unironically read the first book a few weeks ago, I think it's gonna be difficult to portray everything in the movie perfectly, although I am hyped because Villeneuve is gonna make this aesthetic as fuck.

>thousands years into the future
>Most worlds are monotheistic

Fucking really?

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>Set in a galactic empire with feudal houses
>Nobody uses technology because a technological uprising almost wiped out humanity
>Interstellar travel is possible using 'spice', a drug that allows users to see briefly into the future
>Dune aka Arrakis is a desert planet which is the only place where the spice is found
>The story begins where the emporer puts the protagonist's family in charge of Arrakis, taking over the planet from their arch nemesis
>The arch nemesis (whose head of the family is a greasy fat pedo) plots to destroy the protagonist's family and take back Arrakis
>Also the main protagonist is the result of a special breeding program by a secret society with mystical powers who themselves are trying to take control of the empire (though the protag was not meant to be born a boy - his mother fucked up their plans)
There you go, there's about all you need to know to go into this film.

what does orange catholics even believe anyway? they don't meantion Jesus so how is it catholic?

>a technological uprising almost wiped out humanity
headcanon. the butlerian jihad was a luddite movement to save the spirit of humanity

>Eventually the Titan Xerxes lazily grants too much access and power to the AI program Omnius, which usurps control from the Titans themselves. Seeing no value in human life, the thinking machines – now including armies of robot soldiers and other aggressive machines, with the Titans as their commanders – dominate and enslave nearly all of humanity in the universe for 900 years, until a jihad is ignited by the independent robot Erasmus's murder of Manion Butler, the young son of Serena Butler.

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It's fanfiction by Brian Herbert. It's no more canon than anti-abortion uprising from Encyclopedia of Dune.

>B-b-b-but
The jihad was never chronicled Frank's books, only in Brian's. I think Brian's are trash, but they're still recognised as canon. It's not up to you to decide they're not canon just coz you don't like them (or because you got embarassed here).

Yo glad I found you , I just finished reading book 4 about a month ago. What the fuck did I read? Granted it was amazing, but it was unlike anything else I had ever read.

and yet it's infinitely superior to the prequels.

Why do people hate on Brian's Dune books so much? He did as much as he could to keep it faithful to his father:
>obtained official dune 7 notes
>found recordings where Frank pronounced the names of houses like atreides, showing that everyone was doing it wrong
>grew up with the father of Dune; he couldn't have had a better instruction manual
I could see if it was a soulless cash grab but it is evident that they put their passion into these books

Technological advancement was halted due to a massive fucking war that almost completely annihilated humans. Humans opted for advancing themselves to the level of AI's and machines without using applied cyber enhancements in order to do the things they humanly were not capable of doing. Frank is pretty good at explaining why all of this came to happen. Let me give you an example.

In Dune, most characters fight with a combination of sword and gunfighting giving a priority to melee combat for one simple reason, the existence of shields. Energized shields exist and they block all kinds of projectiles making traditional projectile weapons hit like a wet noodle, but with the usage of lasguns (laser guns) this changed. But shooting a shield protected guy with a lasgun is a huge gamble no one is willing to make since the interaction of lasgun particles and shield particles ends up in a very disastrous scenario: Either the shooter or the shot disappear in a nuke like explosion or both do, so it's suicide to do so.

For that reason everyone prefers swordfighting and training in the expertise that requires so, and only use lasguns when fighting troops that aren't wearing shields.

Everyone is a normie. You're not special, I'm not special, no one is special.

>fighting about about inhiradinces,
Fighting about WHAT, RETARD?

>they're still recognised as canon
lol by fucking who? brians publishers?

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the real question is why do people say brian wrote them? he didn't. also brian hated his father and couldn't care less If he shat on his legacy

Lmao and he called another user a brainlet. 4channel Yea Forums is such a wonderful place

>He did as much as he could to keep it faithful to his father:
He literally went the opposite direction Frank did. Daniel and Marty were revealed to be independent Face Dancers who absorbed so many personalities that they became like the Leto and Ghanima, parallels to Kwisatz Haderach. He took them and made them into thinking machines. It's like he didn't even bother reading Chapterhouse. Not only that, but he ended the series with Duncan becoming "the ultimate kwisatz haderach", as in the ultimate messiah, which is the complete opposite of what Frank tried to explain for 6 fucking books. The ENTIRE point of Paul's and Leto's stories is messiahs are bad and the species needs to think for itself as individuals. Everything he did goes against the themes, the setting, all the buildup and fuck you and your shitty bait for getting me to respond to you.

But Duncan was able to think for himself. All of his past memories were of his perspective and not his ancestors.

That's not what thinking for yourself means you retard. Besides, that doesn't justify him becoming the ultimate saviour of human race. Frank Herbert himself stated that saviours are dangerous for humanity. He even praised Nixon because he taught Americans by example to be suspicious of the government and the president. The entire political backbone of Dune is a rejection of centralized power. There is a reason why Leto calls himself the greater predator mankind has ever faced.

Slows down aging, expands mental capacity, gives a sense of euphoria and most importantly, large doses allow starship navigators to see through time and space to plot a course through folded space