Alien is an aesthetically beautiful but empty film. I think Cronenberg summed it up best:
>“It has no metaphysics, no philosophy,” he told Fangoria in 1979. “The creature winds up as a man in a crocodile suit who chases a bunch of people around a room. I think that my own films do a lot more in touching a deep seated nerve, more than the simple reaction that you don’t want a crocodile to eat you. Alien was just a $300,000 B-movie with a $10 million budget.”
Aliens bothers to flesh out its themes and constructs a well-told narrative around them, with a strong character arc as the focal point and satirical undertones targeting U.S. militarism. Alien doesn't have better visual storytelling than Aliens, either. In places Aliens does a better job. Alien is just more beautiful (but empty).
Also, Alien was directed by a hack who's still ruining the franchise to this day. Aliens on the other hand was directed by an Academy Award winning director.
Aliens is a better film than Alien
>AAAAALIIIIEEENNSSSS IS BETTER!!! THE ONLY GOOD FEMINIST MOOOOOVIIIIEEEE AND HAS GUUUUUUUNNNSSSS
Why do Ridleyfags always screech autistically like this when their opinion is challenged?
Aliens is better than Alien.
Prometheus is better than both, you can stfu
Prometheus fucking sucks, kys brainlet
bump
>pls Yea Forums! Let's talk about my sõy kino! I-I wrote a big text using my big reddit brain! Pls! B-b-ump!
Op is pathetic
I will never forget how much the idiocy of all the people in the movie Alien triggered me as a child. They all seemed so unnaturally stupid and inept to the point where I couldn't take the movie seriously, and I'm talking like 10 years old when I first saw it. It had some great scenes, first half of the movie is amazing, but when it comes down to the "meat" the director's quote is spot on- it's a dumb ass cheesy monster chase flick. Aliens 2 creates a universe far better, and is more satisfying.
I prefer Aliens but I like when W-Y was just "The Company". Ancient Egyptian occult logos are cool, especially for top secret shady shit.
Sóyboys hate Aliens, though. It has too much toxic masulinity and supports traditional family values.
They'd much rather want to watch a slow bone chilling slowburn like Alien
Could you tell me why they were stupid? I think you're confusing it with Prometheus
Covenant is the best one
Cameron's very existence triggers soifags and leftists.
If you hate Aliens and T2, you're a soifag who probably likes A24 garbage.
Alien isn't empty, it's just an extended sexual assault metaphor
Because they doesn't use guns or try to scape soon after the alien kill the first of them, retard.
>I was smarter than everyone at 10
What an insufferable faggot you are.
>Alien is an aesthetically beautiful but empty film
Just like virtually every Scott film.
>16 posts
>nine ids
Op is really trying hard some shit here, sad weekend, bro.
>Because they doesn't use guns
Because they don't have them you retard.
>try to scape soon after the alien kill the first of them, retard.
And risk losing your job and become homeless. Besides that, escaping still means you'll be floating around in space for potentially hundreds of years, just look at Ripley
Seething
>Cronenberg
Yet it’s still better than any Cronenberg film by a country mile
it's not better, it's a different genre
That's 2 posts per IP, do you just expect someone to leave a single post and leave?
A movie from one genre can be better than the other, retard.
No, and Cronenberg is wrong here because he doesn't attach the same personal creative process to a film which is objectively similar to (and preceded in several cases) his classic works. In a sense, Cronenberg is "too close" to the genre to see the genius. This, because he's this arch-jew who is all about the ideas.
Aliens has both the gay male rape stuff going for it, and has a seminal, early instance of Le Evil Company (a Marxist interpretation can be given), together with AN INDUSTRY PLANT (contemporary music culture). The philosophcal and psychological ground of the film is well fertile.
Ridley, just stop posting. You're embarassing yourself
Nigger please.
I wonder if Cronenberg still thinks the same way 40 years later.
They're both kino, but no, Alien is better
>early instance of Le Evil Company (a Marxist interpretation can be given)
Absolute brainlet, stop posting.
The aliens are a (very obvious) metaphor for Communism, they're an endless swarm of cruel collectivist drones that are trying to run over a planet.
Wrong
You barely can write one phrase to defend your position, you just inserted "kino" and acted as spineless retard. Tranks to show us the typical Alien fan.
Not him and The Fly's excellent special effects and tragedy notwithstanding, Alien IS the better film. Both have classical body horror, but Alien is attended by (and consists of) a superior overall creative process (the verisimilitude of Scott's serious storyboarding, the helpful story-add-on from the producers that actually enhanced the story (the company sends a robot to shepherd the quarry) which even O'Bannon acknowledged as an improvement (O'Bannon and his co-writer and the producers mutually hated each other), the discovery of Giger and Badejo for the project), better FILM SHOTS (the pan-in when Brett enters the landing gear area, the entire chestburst sequence), and a better score, title sequence and even tagline to boot. Alien is plain better. Simple as.
Imagine being THIS wrong
Cronenburg is a retard that turned Naked Lunch into a literal b movie, fuck him
...
Alien is a better film than anything Cronenberg ever made.
Based.
Imagine turning on one of the greatest horror directors of all time just so you can defend your shitty slasher flick in space
>Not him
Sure, I stopped reading right there. Your opinion is wrong anyway.
>dude Alien is just a b-movie!
>haha Naked Lunch, pfft I'll just make it about bugs lmao
He's a retard
100% right. alien is fucking boring
>Brett chasing after the cat in a ship with a hostile alien lifeform, after discovering evidence of it shedding
>Dallas chasing it into the vents after its revealed it's lethal, and trying to flush it out for literally no reason when they can just wait for it to come to them
>The crew splitting up afterwards and getting picked off one by one
>It has no metaphysics, no philosophy
But what about the bonus situation?
B8
In fairness in the theatrical cut you barely ever see the WY logo. It's the Special Edition cut that just shoves that logo in your face. You can barely even see the Egyptian logo in the first movie either come to think of it.