My father told me to watch that film, should I listen to him?

It pushes the anti-war angle too hard. I wish there was a movie based on Storm of Steel to provide the the counter argument.

t. never been in the military

Was there a version before 1930 or do we have the one that was apropriated for the many silent-only cinemas still existing in 1930?

imagine thinking storm of steel provides a counterargument to this
how fucking dense are you

Jünger shows both the horror and the glory of war, Remarque only shows the horror.

How does it show the glory?

don't judge me ;-;

book is better, original movie is worth a watch though

The second one I meant. It is really good. Has different actors in some scenes though Zasu Pitts is NOT in it contrary to rumor.

Not really, sometimes is a war can be very benificial for a country.
But WWI was indeed kind of retarded.

war is the least efficient form of diplomacy

War can be insanely profitable and USA wouldn't be in the position it is without the two world wars.

inane thing to say since we can't peek into alternative timelines

It shows the great qualities (bravery, willingness to sacrifice oneself, etc.) that war brings out in soldiers as well as the brutality without passing judgement. It also describes the intoxicating rush of battle, and manliness of close quarters combat.
Meanwhile all quiet on the western front is mostly just "muh pointless death, boo hoo hoo, woe is me"

formally it's good but it's also dishonest. the anti-war message came during a time when it was popular and socially acceptable to do so and the director went on to direct gung ho war movies like The Halls of Montezuma.

junger always has a fond admiration for his enemies and still does not see it as a shame that they must fight. war to junger was a way of escaping bourgeois banality and affirming your own existence by becoming 'aesthetic phenomenon' or living art in a nietzschean sense.
remarque was just a pleb moralist.

No. Kill him to stop his any lies.
youtube.com/watch?v=MNMi8fXi5Os

Humans wage an endless war against themselves. We fight. We die. We will wage war forever. This will happen until the end of human existence. There is nothing that can change that, unless we are all reduced to ultimate similarity of thought and appearance. Nothing can change the certainty of the eventual war.

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We can study history and trace back the shift of wealth and economic power from Europe to the USA during both wars.

The one with Ernest Borgnine and Richard Thomas was best version.

Great movie.

you said the "USA wouldn't be in the position it is without the two world wars."
and I said that impossible to say with certainty as we don't know what would have happened otherwise

>War can be insanely profitable

For who, the kikes running the show? Tell this to the nigs they send to the butcher at the frontlines

And I said we can trace the factors which made USA the biggest player in international affairs and lead to this conclusion. The trends and events which led to today's America are linked to the wars.
Would America be a suporpower in a world without WW1 and 2? Most probably yes. But those wars are the reason it happened as fast it did, the way it did.

again, complete conjecture
we can only observe what happened and you try to draw conclusions from that on what would have happened

>conjecture
Are you such a fucking imbecile you can't understand how we can trace well documented modern history back to the early 20th century and understand what and why things happened the way they did?

Precisely, we can understand what and why things happened the way they did. We can't know how things that didn't happen would have happened.

>DUDE WAR R BAD
Brilliant