They just need to choose not to be poor. All they need to do is pull themselves up by their bootstraps...

You don't know what any of those terms mean. The middle class is being destroyed and it's not because of laziness.

>spending 8 hours a day on twitter seething and ranting about the "obsolete flyover working class blue collar" menace.
Literally nobody is doing this. Why have you created a boogieman just to cuck yourself? And the overpriced housing in San Fran doesn't matter when those tech bros are all living rent free in that giant, empty head of yours.

Oh, you called people names and spat out an instant "no you" Colbertism, I am now a Democrat.

take your pills

eat shit bootlicker a business owner earns more cash in the long run hiring unskilled labor to fill a niche void plus they're illegal so they have to do a good job or they get fucked with no pay

Obviously not. It’s being destroyed due to the destruction of American unions. That’s been known for a long ass time, with wage stagnation beginning in the eighties.

Why are liberals so willing to exhibit intellectual dishonesty when facts don't suit their world views?

Absolutely jewish and proving my point, thanks

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>Guy accuses other people (non-existent until that point; brings it up himself) of doing something
>Is clearly the one doing that thing
That's not a "no you," it's identifying hypocrisy and projection. Also
>Colbertism
Cringe brother. Keep letting a Catholic late night satirist who went to school for improv get under your skin.

I had a neighbor just like Karen. Parents were divorced.

Really cute and I lost my virginity to her at age 15 and then 4 weeks later I find out she has had sex with like 11 different guys already and is actively having sex with 2 other people along with myself.

Ends up pregnant at age 16 and is sent to live with her dad in South Dakota.

>doesn't respond to their point at all
>duh liberals
Yikes. If you really wanna help tradies then stop shitposting on /pol/ and vote for Bernie, faggot.

That kike sitting next go the cooler is fucking hideous

Calm down.

>Still get almost anything they want
Yeah IRL Frank would of never of got that liver and he would of died.

Keep lying, seethie. You and your estrogenated kind are the ones obsessively ranting and raving about blue collar americans in a deranged manner, not the other way around.

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Yes, why do we examine the psychology of someone that thinks that there’s a global conspiracy to keep them down, headed by the fourth largest world religion. Curious why we would rather talk about why you think you’re persecuted by Jews, rather than engage in honest conversation with someone who, again, thinks there’s a global conspiracy that targets them specifically?

Literally nobody in this thread said anything about blue collar americans until you brought it up. That's why you keep deferring to Twitter for some reason. It's very clear that you're upset about this. I'm gonna keep responding so you have a chance to let it all out.

Go off buddy :)

tfw flyover states, white people and job outside of urban centres still have the sheer audacity to still exist

They get everything they want through underhanded and illegal methods that could ruin their lives if they were caught. Meanwhile, people born into, and holding wealth, are allowed to do anything they want without consequence, or the potential for consequence.

Like, Ian saved a minor from being kidnapped and forced into a Jesus Camp, and for saving a child from abuse and brainwashing, he gets thrown in jail. Probably for the rest of his life. Even though he has mental illness issues that fuck with his ability to control his actions.

No one said anything about your right to exist? Why did you put yourself on the cross that you built? Was it hard to pound nails into both of your hands? How did you do the other one when you already had one nailed down?

My son wanted a trade apprenticeship and I tried to talk him out of it. Turns out he only wanted to do it to "work for a strong man who could teach me to fix air conditioners and fuck my twink faggot ass." I'm so glad he no longer lives with me in my San Francisco mansion.

Doesn't he work as an EMT? Those niggas make like 150k a year.

He went to jail for setting the van on fire, not for saving the kid from jesus camp.

Also that kid just didn't want to take his antipsycho meds because he wanted erections. Fuck that kid, take your fucking meds, we don't need more mentally ill on the streets.

EMT workers don't make no 150k a year...
They make like 35k a year. EMTs are shit tier pay.

Seething. Deranged. Obsessed. 40% yourselves.

>10/10
>could marry any rich dude she wanted
>NO I HAVE TO STAY AND HELP MUH AWFUL FAMILY

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He wouldn’t’ve needed to set the van on fire if the kid wasn’t being kidnapped. Not to mention it was Ian’s boyfriend’s job, literally, to keep these kids off the job, something he was really good at doing.

That's it buddy. A few more "seething!!!" and nonsensical /pol/ memes and you'll be back to feeling yourself.

Dude, you’re the one talking like a crazy person. No one else is. Just you.

>He wouldn’t’ve needed to set the van on fire if the kid wasn’t being kidnapped

You don't need to set it on fire to the point where it fucking explodes?

He could of laid in front of it like he did earlier. He could of slashed the tires.

He didn't need to start a fire, cities don't like fires because they can spread easily.

You randomly starting attacking tech bros on Twitter -- you literally posted unprovoked and then played the victim.
Just look at the images you have saved on your computer man. It's totally normal.

I think therapy would be better for you than responding with "seething" to everyone who replies to you.

Tale as old as time

Well, he was also off his meds, was in the middle of a manic episode that had him calling himself Jesus Christ, so...

My point is, if he was rich, he would’ve had to self-commit to a psych hospital for a few weeks, and pay for the van. But because he’s poor, his being bipolar, something he had at no fault of his own, one bad day could ruin his entire life, and it did.

>saved
Wow you really are new here. Fresh off the reddit boat or are you getting paid to post here to "teach a lesson to the stupid 4channers"?

>You randomly starting attacking tech bros on Twitter -- you literally posted unprovoked and then played the victim.

What? When did I do either of those things? I don’t even have a twitter account, dude. Are you okay? Are you off your meds?

No, those niggas make nothing like $150k a year, anywhere in the country. The show is set in Chicago, EMT average salary there according to Glass Door is 22-36k a year.

>and it did.

Do we know this?
How long is his sentence?
I mean arson usually isn't life in prison.

Palpable anger. I love it.

Yes, George Soros is personally funding me to troll you on Yea Forums. He certainly got his money's worth in this thread you raging autist.

>lefty /pol/ psyop

C’mon, we both know Ian’s fucked regardless of the sentence. Even if it’s five years, and he makes it out in five years, how much worse is his bipolar disease going to be? Do you think he’s going to stay on his meds in prison? He didn’t stay on them out of it. Not to mention most prisons toss inmates suffering from mental illness into solitary, which exacerbates their problem beyond measure.

>hurr

Speaking of manic episodes

>Do you think he’s going to stay on his meds in prison?
Prisons can be good at making people take their meds.

>muh bootstraps
An internal locus of responsibility only applies as a solution to poverty when all people have the same opportunities available to them. A public high school student who has to work a minimum wage job to support their family on top of getting good grades does not have the same opportunities as a private high school student from a comfortably wealthy family who has a private tutor and all the free time they could want.

If inmates in psych hospitals can figure out how to keep from taking their meds, so can a inmate in a prison. Never doubt someone with a mental illness’ ability to hurt themselves.

The whole Ian arc is poorly written. WE GET IT, HE'S BIPOLAR.

I found the whole thing laughable. He's on the run from the army, for fairly serious charges, but starts working as an EMT/Fireman, whatever he is? Yeah, no. They run background checks for that, his name and social security number being used for income would have had the military police on him fast. And then he's arraigned, tried, found guilty, and didn't go immediately to the military, for a trial there? Yeah, that's not how it works. (You also don't work as an EMT with an actual BP diagnosis, but that's another rant)

It behooves people with bipolar diagnosis to not divulge that information to their employers. You tend to not get hired if your boss thinks you might lose your shit any day. Not to mention that they want to avoid getting sued for discriminatory termination, so anyone that self-reports doesn’t get hired.

so many times she’s come across good opportunities but her dumbass fucks it up. i will never get over when she had health insurance at that job where she dates the boss’ son. and then slept with the brother.

Some people are able to convince themselves that they do best in chaotic atmospheres so they do their best to disrupt and ruin peace.

>feeling emotions? heavens, no! take a pill and see a therapist instead!
utterly revolting outlook you have there, user.

>lip best boy

Her whole character arc has been "muh self destructive". They dragged it out too long. The UK show had Fiona and Jimmy leaving, and getting their shit together, and living a normal life. She could have done the same, but "muh daddy issues". Same for Flip. In real life, he would have went off to college, married his hot half asian gf, had a couple of kids, and worked at some big tech company pulling down 6 figures because of his big brain.
People DO escape the ghetto. But they won't let them on the show, because "let's squeeze another season out".

Plus, they wrote pretty good, likeable characters early on, and promptly destroyed them, for cheap, cliff hanger season ending bullshit.

>9 adults with no disabilities capable of working
>minimum wage was about $8 in Chicago
>$150k a year between all of them in one year
>10 seasons
>networth $1.5m
How are they not millionaires by now?

Ian is bipolar. Lip, Frank, Fiona and Ian are addicts, and all but one of them are in recovery. And Debbie is a teen mom. In order to escape the working class, you need several steady years where nothing goes wrong.