I watched a snail crawl along the edge of a straight razor. This is my dream; this is my nightmare. Crawling...

He was some schizo...

Not true Joe Rogan cares about his diet

MUH POOR INDIANS

this, razor meaning infrastructure and a technologically advanced army. Being useless against the slimy slithering snail

fpbp as always

It's a metaphor for existence. We crawl forward along a razors edge slowly and painfully for nothing but a death which would have come even in the absence of the pain. Thus "apocalypse now". The tile of the old book "heart of darkness" and the travel along the river is meant to say that we are watching the characters discover the dark heart of reality, aka intrinsic meaninglessness. When Kurtz says "the horror" he isn't referring to death but to life (he sees his life flash before his eyes and it's meaninglessness is terrifying in retrospect).

Also why all of the characters are insane in some way and why the film is set during vietnam. Life is a chaos which we respond to in various ways that give us the illusion of order but in death we see how illusory these missions were

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good post

>all of the characters are insane
Harrison Ford was p. okay desu

I really enjoyed this film
How is the final cut?

based Eren

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But CIA...

>Terminate. With extreme prejudice.

Genuinely nightmarish. My coworker's "wife" visited at work about 3 weeks after the surgery and my penis hurt just looking at it struggling to stand or sit down.

Why the fuck can't there be a movie even half as good as this made now? Seriously, when I saw Final Cut was coming I gave theatrical another rewatch. Still watch it at least twice a year and it's still as good as ever. I can't feel the sort of passion for this that I've seen for anything in the last 10 years and a bit.

i found the Godfather boring but Apocalypse Now is one of my all time favorites
What films do you recommend?

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The 70s were a one time thing. Producers are much more involved every aspect of filming and won't take the risk of controversy or pouring money into something that won't guarantee a return on profit

I legit though for a while the rushing for streaming services to fund whatever content they could just to be different would be the next golden age.
What a dumb faggot I am.

in the new final cut there’s a scene where he takes a bite out of a live chicken

>He broke from them, then he broke from himself.

That fits nicely with "cut em in half with a machine gun and give them a bandaid for it".

and finally we arrive at reginald la doo

> I remember when I was with Special Forces... seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate some children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there, and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out; I didn't know what I wanted to do! And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it... I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought, my God... the genius of that! The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we, because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that
ok so what did he mean by this? that americans are a bunch of hypocritical moralfags?

I want you to name a single way.

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A bone chilling slow burn of a war?

I don’t think it was about morality. I think he was saying that the Vietnamese were gonna win just because they were willing to engage in even more insane behavior.

The Conversation

if you abandon morality, you win

The Godfather part 2

>i found the Godfather boring
I recommend suicide and as soon as possible

>Horror and moral terror are your friends. If not, they are enemies to be feared.

this reads like Milius

and why were they willing to engage in insane behavior? Of course it's about morality. It's about the clarity of their beliefs:
>The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure
They were convinced of their beliefs, so they could do horrible acts which they know and accept are horrible, but which need to be done in war. They're not monsters, they're family men, filled with love, but that could act like monsters because they are true committed warriors with goals.
Meanwhile America's beliefs aren't in order. They're contradictory and confused. They're encouraged to blow up rice farming villages but they can't write 'fuck' on their planes. They cut you in half with a machine gun and then give you water and a bandage. It's not just about maiming children, it's about the willingness to do war.
So it's not about being morally relative or nihilist, but having such a strong morality that the horrible acts of war won't completely break you. Is this dissonance that causes PTSD and shit. Resurgence soldiers don't get PTSD for defending their families from invaders.
Well these are my two cents on it.

You cut off a significant part of the quote but Kurtz himself says you need moral men but at the same time those men need to be able to abandon morality and embrace the violence within to win a war.
It's another example of the conflicting and contradictory nature of war.

>You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment! Because it's judgment that defeats us.
He never says to abandon morality wtf? It's by being extremely moral that they're able to that shit. Do you think terrorists would blow themselves up if they abandoned their morality?
>It's another example of the conflicting and contradictory nature of war.
again, for the americans. The vietcong never doubted or hesitated in their motives for the war.

>He never says to abandon morality wtf? It's by being extremely moral that they're able to that shit. Do you think terrorists would blow themselves up if they abandoned their morality?
Are you fucking retarded? He talks about how horrific he finds the nature of what is done. by suggesting that abandoning feeling, passion and judgement he is suggesting the men abandon their morality. How could morality even exist without those?

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brainlet. they can abandon their feelings because they feel morally justified

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If they could abandon them there would be no moral conflict, which is a constant theme throughout the film.
You're braindead.

want to settle this right now, big guy? ill show you whos boss of this thread

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>this response
Why didn't you just close the tab?

lolwut? because they're both bald? I fail to see the parallels

nailed it. thx. I always like when another user says what I'm thinking but much more eloquently.

>By the 1980s, it was reported that one of Brando’s girlfriends had left him because he wouldn’t keep his promise to lose weight. He always seemed to be dieting, but the pounds weren’t coming off much. Unknown to her, he had some of his buddies throw bags of Burger King Whoppers over the gates of his Mulholland Drive estate.

>Later in the ’80s, Marlon was routinely spotted at a Beverly Hills ice cream parlor buying five gallon containers of ice cream- which he would eat all himself. Reportedly, one of his favorite “snacks” around this time was a full pound of cooked bacon placed in an entire loaf of bread. During these years, the 5 10 Marlon’s weight would balloon up to an incredible 350 pounds at one point.

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Gee Marlon, easy on the ice cream.

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I really wanna watch The Final Cut. It's been easily over 10 years since I've seen this movie and would love to break that time passed.

Imagine passing for that every day in your life, two hours a day.

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cant believe joe rogan said that