Why do Nottingham forest fans get so upset when you call them ‘scabs’? It’s a well known fact

Scabs are people that crossed the picket lines to keep working while the miners were on strike

>implying forest fans only live in Nottingham and not anywhere else in Nottinghamshire.
btw Babbington colliery in Cinderhill was within the city and Gedling in just on the outskirts. Then there was Cotgrave, Calverton, the two Hucknall pits, Annsley and Newstead all within 10 miles of the city centre you thick scab bastard.

Also, Forest are, geographically at least, actually the county team

A scab is someone who keeps working during a strike or takes the job of someone who is striking.

>grow up in a mining town, and witness police v miners riots as a kid
>decide to become a cop, then a ref

based or cringe?

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Nooo bring the country to a standatill. You cant just close unproductive mines the government should pay us at a huge loss every year!

This thread had me taking a look at the wikipedia pages for scabs, strikebreakers and blackleg and I found this if anyone's interested -
>John McIlroy has suggested that there is a distinction between a blackleg and a scab. He defines a scab as an outsider who is recruited to replace a striking worker, whereas a blackleg is one already employed who goes against a democratic decision of their colleagues to strike, and instead continues to work.[23] The fact that McIlroy specified that this should be a "democratic" decision has led the historian David Amos to question whether the Nottinghamshire miners in 1984–85 were true blacklegs, given the lack of a democratic vote on the strike.[24]
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strikebreaker
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_miners'_strike_(1984–85)

my dad is from Sunderland, he would probably agree with the distinction between scab and blackleg

Ohhhh scabby scabby
Scabby scabby
Scabby scabby
Nottingham!

I genuinely wonder what exactly it is the people who use scab wanted. Did they just want the government to subsidise the pits even though they didn't make money?
They never answer this.

They were (and still are) mathematically illiterate and couldn’t pivot to develop new skills for a different time period

Well seeing as this was made by a seething Derby fan it make sense that they'd be mathematically illiterate

Scab? It's not 80s terminology, it refers to something that happened in the 80s

>regional rivalries
hmm it's almost like all long-standing rivalries are passed down to a younger generation at some point...

I didn't realise Derby also called you scabs. You are the eternal laughing stock of Yorkshire though

Yes. Are you enjoying the alternative? It sure seems to have gone well, relying on hostile foreign powers for our energy supplies.

If the work isn't important enough to give us a good wage then you won't mind us ceasing production. Right?

>there are only two options
We should have invested in nuclear power like France did but we're too retarded.

But miners did get a good wage and benefits? You think that's what the strike was about?

Illegal immigrants coming over here and working for 2 quid an hour are scabs too but everyones too cowardly to say it as it is.

We were exporting energy until 2004

We did invest in nuclear power although people complain.

If you take a key industry out of a town or city it makes sense to replace it with a new one. If you fail to do so you're more or less condemning that community to indigence and decline. This is the pre-internet era we're talking about - expecting a bunch of miners to reskill and relocate and build an entirely new life for themselves using their own initiative is fanciful free market idealism.

Shouldnt have gone on strike for so long then should they literally begging the pits to be closed

Just move to where there is jobs, the only reason most of those towns even existed in the first place because of people moving there to work the mines

>but everyones too cowardly to say it as it is
Not sure what you're on about. You face large fines and a possible jail sentence for hiring people without the right to work. Illegal workers will get detained and deported if they're caught. If you pay them something miserable like £2 per hour you could even face modern slavery charges. The situation you're describing is scorned by those of every hue on the political spectrum.

>pay them minimum wage
>charge them for renting a house with 15 other workers
You think this kind of stuff doesnt happen a lot?

Historically Nottingham has been a centre of working class protest and rebellion, most famously the luddite movement which gained global reknown and was pissed off Porky so much they made the name a slur.

scabbing is bad of course, but the idea that a city claims responsibility for it is ludicrous. You may as well call people from Bristol and Liverpool slave mongers. Also lets not forget that Arthur Scargill used his position to buy a council flat that the union had subsidised for him, so if there's talk of opening up the 80s, take that into consideration too.

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I'm not saying it doesn't happen. But there's a pretty clear consensus in this country against it. Nobody outside of a couple of unscrupulous employers thinks that sort of thing is acceptable.

>it's migrants fault for getting paid low wages.

you're a useful idiot. If this country had a living wage then this wouldn't be an issue, but instead of attacking the capitalists who push wages down, you attack some of the most marginlised in society. Pathetic

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Lots of Yea Forums regulars were alive in the 1980s. We're all decrepit ancient mummies round here. Zoomers out.

I'm not attacking the migrants for coming over I'm attacking the powers that be for enabling them

Ignore the brownhands and cucks in this thread, this site is well known for being monitored by the security services.

Yeah i wonder what keeps wages down. Could it be 1000s of unskilled immigrants coming in every year?

oy vey! think of the GDP!

>couple of unscrupulous employers
That's a lot of employers m8, plus, plus even the established companies can be scummy nowadays by abusing zero hour contracts .
A large portion of my childhood neighbourhood went from family suburb to rented doss houses with 20 slavs per square foot. As easy as it is to dislike them, I'm not going to blame them for the problem though, the entire system is way too lax on the landlords and businesses that benefit from this.
Dumb propaganda like "English whites don't want to pick fruit!" was guff. Try applying for a lot of these jobs where they're supposedly desperate to hire, they just won't take you if you're not called Marek Januszczak. They want labourers who will put up with illegal conditions because that's the real metric of not being "lazy and entitled". The general propaganda about the lazy, entitled, inefficient English/Western European worker is a construction of the elite who are desperate to erode all the employee rights that took over a century to build.

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Yes working class people benefit from it not the rich elites the promote it

I wonder who's behind this post

Fuck off leftymong. Pretending to support working class people but just want more pakis

This is correct, t. flatland fc /lifelong/

The real funny thing is that aristo landowners are more likely to employ local people due to ties to the community rather than companies like hunterpac that import cheap labour

The real funny thing is they don't even live here so you're right, they do hire local people, on their islands, outside the taxmans reach

Thats not true in my area at least, some of the best jobs in the county are there

It wouldn’t be a problem if your beloved Tories hadn’t got rid of closed shops in the early 90s then employers would have to hire workers all on the same basic rate and there would be no incentive to advertise abroad and import foreigners.

you are spooked and don't understand how political economy worked.

Again, the government could make a minimum living wage to stop wages being driven down.

The government ran the industry down deliberately to give them the excuse of "muh finances" at the time the areas with the highest operating costs were the ones with the lost investment. At the same time British coal was also the lowest subsidised of any EEC country. But your point is disingenuous anyway as the closing of the industry had nothing to do with economics and was done out of ideological dogmatism, fantasy and "revenge".
The strike occurred because the NCB and the tories lied about future pit closures.

>brings down the previous labour government due to striking
Cant imagine why people would want to stop this

>NOOOOOOOOO NOT THE HECKING MINERINOS

Pretty naive thinking the ZOG is working in your best interests.They know exactly what they're doing when the allow third worlders to flood our countries.The goal is always to keep the native masses just poor and apathetic enough to never pose a threat to them or their cabal-controlled monopolies by suppressing wages. They pay lip service to minimum wage requirements to make their scab scam appear less obvious to stupid people. They know scab labour is eroding native wealth and all the tricks the brown fuckers pull to circumvent wage laws yet they continue to import them by the hundreds of thousands every year.

tl;dr scabs = globohomo ZOG

Strikes have demand, you can see exactly what they wanted

>Oh noo a zoomer called me a scab at a football match i'm so upset

Born and raised in Nottingham and i've never met anyone who had anything to do with the mines. It's not our fault mouth breathers from Yorkshire and wales couldn't do anything else but go down t' pit.

When I was younger, I thought that if there were any soccer/football club that I were to follow it would be Nottingham Forest because of their cool name. Also, when you have a family to provide for, being labeled a "scab" is irrelevant.

Yep.

I'm gonna be in engurland for a couple of weeks, and deciding where I should go. I want to stay away from London, but still go to cool cities where its more "typical" british if that makes sense. Liverpool is on my list, is Nottingham worth checking out?

Not everyone wants to live in dumps like London, Leicester, Birmingham or Manchester. As others have said, it's the governments (London not local) duty to find a replacement economic identity for these mining communities.

Don't go to cities then

>let me tell you about my country

I'm working remote so I can be anywhere with an internet connection. What are some more smaller towns or regions I should check out? I'm also single and would like to fuck, so I gotta see some cities.

Not really, there's nothing particularly interesting for tourists in the midlands, it's like deciding to spend your holiday in Pittsburgh or Cleveland.

How in the everloving fuck does importing millions of blacks and muslims benefit the indigenous white "proletariat"? The far left has NEVER had an honest answer to this question. Your lot is as detestable as the free market obsessed capitalists who allowed the mass migrations back in the 1940's and continue to not give good wages to lower income white families.

>marginalized

Fuck you.