/nfl/ general - POST-DRAFT edition

ATL: UDFA Michigan S Brad Hawkins signs with Falcons
FA: Schefter: Saints expected to re-visit Mathieu
NO: Nicholls State WR Dai'Jean Dixon signs with Saints
DEN: Broncos sign ECU CB Ja'Quan McMillian to UDFA deal
PIT: Steelers add safety Damontae Kazee to secondary
NE: Patriots RB James White (hip) likely to miss OTAs
FA: Bears cut Foles after two forgettable seasons
TB: Bucs take flier on pint-sized WR Jerreth Sterns
PHI: Roseman claims he expects Reagor with Eagles
PHI: Eagles take UDFA flier on Nevada QB Carson Strong

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Whatever happened to Tua Turndaballova?

>my steelers :(

>absolute monster OT protecting Mac
>fastest WR in the league on the outside
>CB and punt return man that might be the best athlete of the draft
>the deepest RB room in the league just got deeper

Yea, I'm thinking we won Patsfans.

CHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEFFFFFFFFFFSSSSSSSSSs

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>El Gay Shams

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>play Bills
>force ZERO (0) punts

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Everyone leaving the QUEEEEEEEFS

Rate your favorite teams first 3 rounds, I’ll go first.

Dallas Cowboys:

>1st
Tyler Smith, Tulsa - arguably the most physically gifted lineman in the draft outside of Ekwonu. All pro traits and potential with inhuman strength.

>2nd
Sam Williams - better statistics per game than Hutchinson (in the SEC) First team all-SEC, 12.5 sacks, 15 tfls and 4 FF’s. if his off the field issues didn’t exist he would’ve been a top 10 pick easily
>3rd
Jalen Tolbert - 1500 yards, 8TDs in 2021. 190 and 2 TD’s against Tennessee. Arguably the best deep threat in the class outside of drake london. would be a late 1st to early 2nd round talent in less deep WR classes.

>Total grade: A-
I think the cowboys slightly reached for Tyler smith out of necessity but still got an instant impact starter at guard, they made up for it with 2 back to back steals in rds 2-3. Every pick mentioned above will start, and become instant impact players in some capacity in 2022.

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Cowboys made a lot of need-based picks the whole way. I thought they did good enough.

>Delusional Eagles fans think this bitch is stopping Kayvon Thibodeaux
Lane Johnson better start juicing up now or there's no stopping KT from ragdolling everyone in the backfield.

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The one man Giants defense? lol

>the future

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>Arguably the best deep threat in the class outside of drake london
drake london isn't a deep threat

he is a deep threat, just not a home run burner. His best comp is Mike Evan’s. He’s way more dangerous down the field than he is underneath, his biggest weakness is his route running. You’re not exactly wrong, but neither am I. We’ll see how he develops over time.

So devoid of talent it held the mighty 9-7 Eagles to seven points and forced four turnovers

Giants ain't even winning 7, bud

>t.

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>jets
1. Sauce: him either DJ Reed, hall, and Echols should be nice. Secondary got stronger and sauce should be able to get good reps in a very tough AFCE.
2. Wilson: perfect compliment to Elijah moore and Corey davis. He should fit with zach
3. Johnson: better as a run stopper, should learn under carl lawson if he’s healthy

Round 2.
Hall: adds to the RB room and he can catch better than carter. Plus he can absolutely run. B+ pick

3rd round
Ruckert: blocking TE, removes yeboah and probably wesco, won’t catch much but uzomah and conklin solve that.

The Eagles were supposed to be one of the worst teams in football last year and ended up with a winning record because they stayed healthy and caught a ton of injury/COVID breaks on the other team. No one knows what's going to happen.

why'd yall lie to me about about Malik Willis telling me he's a top 20 pick?

fucking lmao

Panthers
>1st
Ikem Ekwonu
The line might now suck now holy shit
>2nd
Nothing
>3rd
Matt Corral
For the love of God be better than Darnold

The eagles will significantly improve this year and become a high level wild card team imo. Until they can replace jalen hurts, they won’t beat the cowboys. Dak is a top 5 QB in the league, and he will actually be 100% healthy this year. Many people forget that he was out against the Vikings because of his broken leg from the previous season - he pushed through the “calf strain” for the remainder of the season anyways and it heavily affected his performance. Improved Dak > regressing jalen.

Eagles will depend entirely on QB play. They have a playoff roster otherwise. They should trade for K1 if they want to be serious about playoffs btw

>Skinnies

>Round 1(#16): Jahan Dotson, WR, Penn State

Meh. Would rather of taken Hamilton

>Round 2(#47): Phidarian Mathis, DL, Alabama

Selected another DL player because there is a hole there now that they created by letting poeple go or cutting them. Should have taken a LB

>Round 3(#98): Brian Robinson Jr., RB, Alabama

Still would of rather had a LB but it's meh

>Round 4(#113): Percy Butler, S, Louisiana

A project that might not pan out

>Round 5(#144): Sam Howell, QB, North Carolina

based

>Round 5(#149): Cole Turner, TE, Nevada

Whatever

>Round 7(#230): Chris Paul, OG, Tulsa

We need depth

>Round 7(#240): Christian Holmes, CB, Oklahoma State

about time they took a CB but he may not even make the team.

>total grade
C-

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Reddit/espn//nfl/ on Thursday
>oh my God how could the packers not get a wr in the first round???? what are they doing???

After Friday
>underpaid for a first round WR the packers were projected to get at 22 or 28 and stole him at 34
>stole a top 10 LB at 22
>stole a top 10 DT at 28 that only dropped because of reddit sois and muh domestic violence
>got another WR for cheap that jumps off the film as NFL elite
>pick up some elite OL
>secondary, dline, lbs elite, #1 defense incoming and 2 owls

Packers won the draft by a galactic margin and it's not even close
Kneel and fucking apologize

winning the draft btw is defined btw by getting the most possible value out of scarce resources

Jest had an awesome draft, Wilson and sauce will both be instant impact starters without question. Looks like salah is actually bringing some life back to the franchise. t. Cowboys fan

Panthers lowkey had one of the best drafts this year

Poor kid was way overhyped by the QB-thirsty media. Probably got his inner-circle's expectations up way too high. He's objectively a project QB but Tennessee is a good situation for him.

NFC East will still be Boys to lose. Eagles are more or less a playoff team after their offseason but they still need a franchise QB if they're serious about winning.

The Four Horsemen were the backfield of Notre Dame's 1924 football team under Knute Rockne.

Fast forward 100 years, and a new Four Horsemen have emerged:

Feb 26: Broncos' WR Corps 'Could Dominate' if QB Position Gets 'Figured Out'
>“The Broncos have the makings of a dynamic, top-flight receiver corps if they can stay healthy.

>1) The Southern Horseman Jerry Jeudy owns Pro Bowl talent but played just 10 games in 2021

>2) The Northern Horseman, speedster KJ Hamler, was injured in Week 3. Since being drafted in the 2nd round of the 2020 draft, Hamler has suffered multiple injuries in back-to-back years. The explosive speed demon from Penn State has the potential to be dynamic

>3) The Texan Horseman, Courtland Sutton (1x Pro Bowl) took time to get back into the swing of things after returning from injury. Sutton was drafted in the 2nd round in 2018 out of SMU and became the heir at the X. If he can stay healthy, Sutton will be a force to be reckoned with next fall

>4) The Western Horseman, Tim Patrick. adds an enticing big-body target. The former UDFA from Utah known for his blue-collar work ethic was one of only two receivers with 70-plus targets and zero drops in 2021 alongside future Hall-of-Famer Larry Fitzgerald. Patrick has been a model of consistency and was heavily leaned on last season in Denver. I couldn’t be more excited to see how Hackett schemes No. 81 in Denver’s new-look offense.

>The foursome fits well together from a schematic standpoint and could dominate in new coach Nathaniel Hackett's system. The talent resides in Denver for a potent offense if they can finally figure out the QB.”

Most of Denver's problems last season can be laid at the feet of former offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur for his lack of vision

Denver's four-deep wideout corps is teeming with talent and dying for a competent quarterback and coach to unleash its talent upon a still mostly unsuspecting NFL.

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Sounds about right. Their late draft may have been fine but too many question marks in the first 3 rounds.

No one expected GB to go WR in the 1st round though. Not the front offices at least. They've done just fine not drafting WRs in the 1sts after Javon Walker.
Jets or Eagles, hard to decide which team absolutely slayed the draft.

Will Bill Belichick ever win a division title without Tom Brady as starting quarterback?

Still blows my mind that they took phidarian Mathis over Travis jones at 47. That’s when I knew they weren’t going to do well for the reminder of the draft.

Giants are the great unknown of that division because they've invested a ton in their offense and are going from Jason Garrett's "everyone run five yards and then stop and turn for the ball" scheme to a cross between the Bills and Chiefs schemes.

Saquon's a year removed from his ACL injury now and Daniel Jones was awesome as a rookie while playing in an average scheme with Pat Shurmur calling plays. With Thomas and Neal on that O-Line now they could go from having one of the NFL's worst O-Lines to one of its best.

Ron and Co. don't seem too good at drafting. That DL pick in Rd 2 with all that talent on the board baffles me .

They need to stop drafting Alabama DTs. They're all the same player and makes their D-Line look one dimensional outside Young

This. The iggles took more steps forward to improve their team than anyone else in the draft. Not only that but them trading their first for a first next year was a 5D chess move. They will have 2 first rounders next year, with an immensely deeper QB class. Super intelligent move by howie - they’re the only team in the NFCE worth worrying about for sure.

They're not winning anything with Daniel Jones

Yeah they definitely got too excited after drafting Payne and Allen. Phidarian is no where near their level

Jones has had moments of brilliance despite complete offensive incompetence around and above him. Imagine if Daboll can get him to have the game he had against the Saints every other week.

Does anyone have PFF? Do they still do these charts?

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>Payne
I'm still pissed they plan to let him go. I think he's highly underrated

Too inaccurate to my liking. Maybe the line got better but there's at least 25-30 better starting QBs than him

>Jones
>moments of brilliance

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If wilson even plays like derek carr, he’s fine. I’m surprised few see that in zach because that’s the kind of QB he can be.

Wilson will be just fine, he did extremely well considering the circumstances he was under last year. Just look at how he did in comparison to TLaw. Night and day imo.

He’s highly underrated imo, only thing is it’s hard to tell just how good he is because he’s lined up next to some pretty damn good players (Allen, young). Exactly same problem he had coming out of college ironically enough.

>
I dont know man but i hope
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>people grading the falcons as one of the best drafts
lmao they drafted the first wr in the draft that didn't run the 40 because he'd drop out of the 1st round if he did

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Jets season absolutely depends on how Zach plays. Because if he's on, that team is playoff ready.

>playoff ready

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It's among the worst and people are overhyping London and Ridder way too much. Both were named most likely bust at their positions by me.

Especially considering the fact that Alec Pierce virtually made ridders career by bailing him out so often.

Delete this. Now.

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>His best comp is Mike Evans
no it fucking isn't and I wish people would stop saying that.
Drake London isn't a deep threat. there are incidental run after catch yards that he would get on box-out comeback type routes where the DB would take a shit angle on the tackle and bounce off of him and he'd have free yardage. USC consistently ran this trips formation play that was not designed to bust the coverage downfield but to have the two front WRs engage the first DBs while London was immediately targeted.
London has an excessively high percentage of his catches contested, over 30%. the positive spin on this outcome is that "he's a contested catch receiver," but the story of contested catch receivers in recent years is that of draft busts. N'Keal Harry, JJ Arcega-Whiteside and, going back a bit further, Laquon Treadwell. massive busts that had the calling card of "consistent 50/50 ball winners" in college that didn't get separation and consequently got even less separation in the NFL so they never get targeted, forget about getting the opportunity to try for 50/50 balls.
beyond that, Evans played in the SEC and put up over 2400 yards in only two seasons while London put up 2150 split over three seasons and played in the worst iteration of the PAC-12.. probably ever. certainly the worst that the PAC-12 has been since it's been the PAC-12 and probably for a long time before when it was the PAC-10. the conference was absolutely awful and London played against maybe 2 cornerbacks that have been drafted or are expected to be drafted above the 4th round.

People forget that Brandon Marshall was a fucking monster for a brief shining moment.

All 32 of the 32 GMs bet on GB taking a WR in the first. When GB went D with both their first round picks, they were completely stunned but then shrugged it off and got back to the matters at hand

Absolutely true. Pierce was a slam dunk pick for the Colts as well.

This is exactly why I was relieved London wasn't going to go to my team (Eagles), we already had that receiver before, why again? Because muh matchups? He played against terrible DBs all throughout college.

they should have taken williams and let him rest for their rookie qb in the 2023 draft

>Still blows my mind that they took player X over player Y
What should blow your mind is how there are people on this planet that are so retarded and closeminded that they think they have a better vantage point of who the better player for the team is then the people that are with that team 24/7 and are part of a professional organization that did nothing this last month but analyze all the prospects (with a whole scouting dept who had been doing this year round)

If the Falcons drafted Williams and Willis over London and Ridder their draft would be among the best.

>Cross
>Boye Mafe
>Kenneth Walker
>Abe Lucas
Cross will start week 1 and Lucas will be depth at worst. Mafe was probably the best EDGE left on the board. I cringed at the Walker pick at first but it probably means Chris Carson's neck is fucked. Walker's one of the best backs in the class and was projected mid/high R2 anyway so it wasn't a horrible reach either way.

A
Drops to a B if i'm wrong about Carson. Good shit but I can't shake the feeling that the depth of the class/no trade takers saved Pete and John from themselves

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The Seahawks needed a QB but they did right sitting this QB class out. Solid picks overall but even then maybe Corral in the 3rd round would have made it a little sweeter.

With Mariota throwing to him maybe they think he can catch with his feet