Bruce Lee deserves to be mocked

based martial arts are fucking gay. It would be less embarrassing getting the shit kicked out of me than doing BJJ in public. It's so naive to think every encounter will be 1 on 1 with someone who is approximately your size not have any weapons.

The only martial art that will help you in a riot/out number situation is boxing.

youtu.be/mZHDMhbcJvA

This has pretty much been agreed by experts from different martial arts.

I'm a fat balding 31 year old NEET who gets winded going up the stairs, but I can still take Bruce Lee easily with pic related

sad!

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Yea, but what if you're in a gun free zone?

Boom.

no martial art is ever going to help you against a crackhead with a knife, he's going to stab the fuck out of you even if you beat his ass in seconds. Sure maybe if you have 20 yards inbetween you, and you kick him perfectly, and knock him out with your first kick you only get slashed once, but in reality the guy is going to be right next to you and stab you 20 times at least if he wants to.

Wh*tebois post the cringiest shit

>12 years trainning
>killed by an ironbar in 2 seconds

Akido is the martial art that is literally about disarming attackers

youtu.be/GcWfhDL9PrM

You wish op

>Years of training with a sword
>Killed by an arrow
This is the kind of fucking logic you are applying.
I would also like to see you charging any professional martial artist with an iron bar.

OP doesnt know about based akido

youtu.be/fH6HtkySiCQ

...

Do you have any disability? I mean your videos clearly say "AIKIDO" and you still write akido like a fucking retard.

kek

BASED WEEB

My plan is throw lasers by my hands like Gooku

Wait till he catches all your bullets with his hands

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KEK

I might not know the first thing about brazilian jujitsu

But I don't care how gay or strong or gay you are.

No black belt survives that kind of lead

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kek

>I might not know the first thing about brazilian jujitsu
>But I don't care how gay or strong or gay you are.
>No black belt survives that kind of lead

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>*slices your bottle, even the tire iron in half*
The next slice will be on you kid, make your move.
>*my eyes flash red like an Oni(Japanese for demon)*
>*you run away screaming like a little girl to mommy*
>*I sheathe my 1000 year old blade bad boy Sepiroth goth style*

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based

>IMPOSSIBRU! HOW CAN WHITU MAN CHECKMATRU??

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>he doesn't know
As expected of faggots like OP

bros just train Krav Maga bros

Even if I gave you a knife not one fucking dude in this thread could take Joe Rogan let's be fucking honest.

Based

>I would also like to see you charging any professional martial artist with an iron bar.

youtube.com/watch?v=UzOhwRPApcs

not even made of iron

you'd have a better chance with a magnifying glass

Stop watching movies, retarded

>retarded
That's redundant

Martial arts are bullshit

Not very clear what happens in the video, but it looks like more people gang up on him, so no shit he gets his ass kicked.
And anyway I said I want to see YOU doing it.
And you stop stop fantasizing about beating up Bruce Lee while posting from your basement, faggot.

>Hits him from behind
I'm pretty sure he said charging someone, like facing the person, moron. Not a sucker punch.

You’re right but also a complete faggot.
>it’s more embarrassing doing bjj in public than getting your ass kicked
I’m not even going to respond to this because it’s so idiotic it must be a troll.
>it’s extremely naive to think fights are 1v1 of similar size
Yeah no shit guy. That’s the whole point. Techniques work on a wide range of opponents.
>1v1
This is where you transcend faggotry and actually make some sense. When I was training I focused on you not taking me down and foot work so I could stay mobile and knock your dick in the dirt then flee. I learned a handful of ground techniques and as many counters to submissions as I could.

The amount of guys that would just constantly shoot in, shoot in, shoot in. It’s like “hey let me rake my knee and shin across this gravel and broken glass covered pavement so I can get you and I on the ground where your homeboys can take me to coma town”.

A REAL fighter (like an MMA fighter) would KILL any other man in the streets.

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Dana is actually defending him.
>”people get punched in pubs all the time!”
What a piece of shit they both are.

boxing is a martial art. shooting is a martial art

like bruce lee didn't know grappling or recognize it's importance. The criticism is dumb

I mean Bruce aside, learning martial arts not only makes a fit scrapper out of you, but it's useful in a situation where weapons aren't necessarily involved (because sometimes, faggots just start shit with no prompting). And even in situations with weapons, I've seen dudes use Judo/JJ effectively to counter knife attackers, people with bludgeoning weapons, etc. Obviously I'd rather just have an effective weapon than anything, but weapons existing doesn't invalidate the ability to defend yourself with your hands.

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You have to keep in mind this is Ireland. This drunk bastard probably gets punched in the side of the head on a regular basis and would be better suited to taking hits than most of the niggers and spics the MMA recruits.

>What’s the saying? I think goes “once you go Asian, you don’t go back to Caucasian”. “Yellow? Hello!”

AH! ANGIE! JEN! GWEN! HELP!

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looks like a wrestling suplex to me based on the hip movement

That 12 year old boy is really something.

Not bad for someone who watches anime. Unfortunately, you were probably using 100% of your power here, heh...

>incel calling others incel
Classic

Based, based!

To recap, we went from
>it's just a dream
>it's not a dream, but it's a draw of about 1-1
>it's just a joke don't be insensitive it's not disrespectful to Bruce Lee
>Bruce Lee will be taken down by an MMA fighter
>Bruce Lee isn't a real fighter, he's an actor
>Bruce Lee can't fight, where is his record
>Bruce Lee is too small for the adult-sized male
>Bruce Lee never learned how to fight, he just uses worthless unrealistic kicks
>I can take on Bruce Lee

to
>martial arts is bullshit

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Guns are bullshit. Nukes are the way to go. Look at Hiroshima and Nagasaki!

It's the natural progression of things. In order for martial arts to finally evolve into something useful like MMA, it needs to shed the mysticism in order to keep the practical. Bruce Lee himself realized this when he developed Jeet Kune Do.

Please, Bruce! No mas!

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Bruce Lee is a faggot actor and you're still crying over him getting BTFO in a movie

You forgot
>he died from taking aspirin

So what's next after "martial arts is bullshit"? "MMA is bullshit"? "Gun kino"? "School shooters are the modern day gladiators"?

Did Bruce lee really get his ass handed to him by a middle aged wh*te stunt double?

Asians are pathetic

Shut up and do my laundry.

He threw a shot of his whiskey in his face... not a punch, a punch has impact

None of those are wrong, faggot.

All Asian martial arts are complete bullshit, especially Chinese. I have a hard time believing that shit was actually used in War.

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the absolute irony of this post

Martial arts is pathetic. It's a fucking artistic hobby. People who train aikido or kung fu are basically terrible rhythmic gymnasts.

Even professional fighting itself is just a sport. Humans have been using weapons to harm each other foe too long. Fist fighting is purely a social endeavor.

I for one love these threads and Asian "males" biting at the bait every single time.

Let's translate what Dana really meant by that

>Ah! Stop bullying my money pile!

Thank you, Dana.

Did they die?

That’s dangerous, a retard carrying a knife around

>>it's just a joke don't be insensitive it's not disrespectful to Bruce Lee
>>Bruce Lee will be taken down by an MMA fighter

I particularly love how they did a 180 saying it's just a joke to telling what they really thought and why they laughed at Bruce Lee.

They actually thought that Bruce Lee is shit in the first place, that's why they're laughing. They want to bring back Asian race jokes and Short Round in cinema. They missed Asians being neutered, emasculated people.

Yeah, i also tend to believe that "Sword techniques" are bullshit. I am pretty sure people were just whacking the shit out of each other back then, it sure as hell did not look fancy.

white cope in action

I used to get winded from the stairs when I smoked in my 20s

not a good way to live if you are telling the truth

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Bruce Lee is not a real martial artist. Where is his UFC record?

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Bruce Lee would not stand a chance against an AMATEUR MMA fighter from today. The guy simply didn't have much sparring experience.

>REEE BOXERS AND MMA FIGHTERS AREN'T REEEEEEEAAL

Pretty sure even Daniel Cormier could knock you out. Just give him the chance to eye poke.

>Bruce Lee would not stand a chance against an AMATEUR MMA fighter from today.
Meanwhile, Gene LeBell says that Bruce Lee is a world-class martial artist.

youtube.com/watch?v=dJoCtd_cblQ

I agree to an extent.

You see soldiers and SWAT who train CQB every day and they become very proficient at what they do and use methods proven to work.... but on the other hand when bullets start flying these tactics go out the window and people look lost... generally. What really matters more than individual talent is planning and coordiantion.

No. Im gonna pepper spray you then rock you in the temple, and if you dont go down ill leg sweep you and then stomp on your skull. If you ever wake up, hopefully i instilled that fear in you nigger. Then ill put my pepper spray back in my butt for that victory tingle.

Martial Artist, Yes.

Fighter, No.

Pretty sure a 60 IQ negro child soldier with an AK could destroy whoever that is.

If they don't have actual fights under their belt then they're performance artists and not fighters.

>You see soldiers and SWAT who train CQB every day and they become very proficient at what they do and use methods proven to work.... but on the other hand when bullets start flying these tactics go out the window and people look lost... generally.

Exactly. I have noticed that too and i cringe when they try to look all tactical and shit. I've been watching a lot of combat footage and it never looks like when they train.

Gene LeBell isn't a fighter? He would know more than you.

youtube.com/watch?v=n9mER2BmNRA

>If they don't have actual fights under their belt
>fights can only be in the form of tournaments reeee

Meanwhile, Cliff Booth has a zero pro fight record.

I was talking about Bruce Lee. I was a good martial artist but probably a lousy fighter.

Who?

He actually had a lot of sparring experience. The real problem would be how much fighting has changed and evolved since the 60s. The average amateur MMA fighter is relatively strong with grappling and is all around better trained compared to most martial artists back then.

Gene was talking about Bruce Lee too. He knows more than you.

Are we seriously going to have this thread every day. It's not even a fucking meme, it's literally just a racebait race war thread.

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The whole point of this thread? No one is claiming Bruce Lee would win against MMA fighters inn 2019. People are asking if he can win against a middle-aged stunt man with PTSD though.

Yes, are you retarded?

He said "Bruce Lee was a great martial artist" That does not mean he was a good fighter.

Jackie Chan is a great Martial Artist but probably a shitty fighter.

Martial arts itself are not a meme, only that people have the wrong idea about it.
Martial arts are not about becoming a good fighter, it's about being good in an extremely specific fringe case of fighting where you're in a small enclosed space, fighting one on one, with no weapons, and not being allowed to truly fight to kill (punching throat, gouging eyes, ripping off balls).

All men are biologically built to fight/kill. It's in our DNA. The major deciding factor in a fight is an unrelenting fighting spirit. See this video.
If your enemy has an indomitable spirit, it means they're not afraid to take you on and take your punches while attacking you.
Think about the adage about a rat being cornered, and that's a fucking rat little bigger than your hand.
If two or more men decide they want to fight to kill you, and there's just one of you, no martial art in the world would save you.

Also, weapons. A mere knife is enough to take all the advantages of martial arts training away. B-but you have martial arts designed for disarming!! No. As I said, the ability to fight/kill is biologically ingrained in men. No disarming martial art in the world can stop a guy with a knife thrusting it into you.
Look at what happens here in the 32 second mark: youtube.com/watch?v=W_EIixLpq9U
You might take out your opponent but you'll most likely bleed to death afterwards. A gun is even more out of the question. There's a reason they call it the great equalizer. A toddler can (and have) taken out grown men with a gun.

So yea, martial arts improve your chances in a one on one fight, with absolutely no weapons, but doesn't do shit for anything else.
The reason a lot of people living in the first world think so is that their society is completely sanitized from violence.
Go to south America and piss off the wrong person? You try boxing them and they'll sidestep you and chop your hands off with a machete.

>race war
>tfw Quentin Tarantino will succeed in what the Manson Family failed at with just one small scene in his film

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Whats the difference between Yea Forums and Yea Forums that the reception to Bruce Lee is so different?

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>Yes, are you retarded?
Ad hominem is the sign of a weak debater.

>He said "Bruce Lee was a great martial artist" That does not mean he was a good fighter.
A martial artist is a fighter you absolute retard.

Bruce lee was a small guy. He was not strong absolutely. He was strong relative to his weight, like many people who like calisthenics.

An amateur light heavyweight would absolutely manhandled bruce lee. There's a reason why when UFC had no weight classes the lighter guys always won by wearing the bigger guy down. Toe to toe it's no competition for people outside their weight classes.

They're not huffing Tarantino fumes from his B-hole, if I have to guess.

>this was his intent all along
madman

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>A martial artist is a fighter you absolute retard.

No. Fighting implies that you are actually fighting, facing a real opponent.

Dancing around on a movie set is not real fighting.

>Bruce lee was a small guy. He was not strong absolutely.

Please keep being wrong.

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look at the locations, Yea Forums is probably entirely Americans and Indians

shit, ill take two

Based TaranKINO
He has truly taken film-making to another level of influence and excellence.
He will succeed at what Charles Manson failed at while at the same time alluding to him through that very same film.

What should I watch? Was thinking Bloodsport or Rumble in the Bronx.

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humans are physically fairly pathetic, we'd get fucked up by just about any predator in the animal kingdom in our weight class in a straight brawl.

what we have in our favour is our tools and social coordination.

the best human martial artists is like the best painting elephant.

>Bruce lee was a small guy
youtube.com/watch?v=x6CL9-njqUI

he does, but by me, an untrained 6'1 200lb man who could have beaten him up despite his incredible training and attitude to life. not by tarantino who had no problem getting rich off of lee's best ideas

NEXT LEVEL KINO
Cinema that influences society instead of the other way around.
Bravo, Tarantino.

PUREASE BURADU

*thud*

AAAH PURASE BULADO

*wallop*

AAAAAH PREEEEEEEA PREEEEAAAAAAAAA I HAV FAMIRY

BURADO
BURA-

NO
PUREASE BURADO NO

*crack*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

Reminder that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood bombed
>Production Budget: $90 million
>Domestic Total: $116,469,961
Quentin “Footsucker” Tarantula is box office poison.
/thread

>an untrained 6'1 200lb man who could have beaten him up

That's essentially Mike Tyson vs. Bob Sapp.

I heem every here

>Bruce lee was a small guy. He was not strong absolutely.
Tell that to Mighty Mouse.

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This

You kidding me? I'd heem you in 30 seconds flat kiddo

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...Shit.

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>gets white and asian to genocide each other.
>only people left in the aftermath are black men and asian and white women since all the men die during the conflict
How could we have been so blind?

...A film referencing the same Manson Family being BTFO at that, rubbing it in their noses that he's better than them.

He's a smug asshole, but you can't deny the effectiveness of his tactics.

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Lol joe Rogan is a manlet faggot

A martial artist can get caught just like anyone. The best MMA guys kick boxer ect will be the first to tell you this.

I think people like you have no idea how good these guys really are though.

I could take you the distance to steal a controversial split decision
Bitch

They actually have flags revealing where they are.

Humans are well above average physically I'd say.
We often underestimate our own physical ability because our brains are larger and we can think further into the future resulting in:
- self doubt, fear of being injured etc
- more accurately weigh the cost-benefit of engaging in all out aggression

We always think of ourselves as the weakest of the apes etc but we could take them all save for gorillas and perhaps the largest orangutans.
Chimpanzees? No fucking problem, if you're not afraid of losing a hand or two while taking it out.
Reminder that a man took on and killed a fucking bear.

Take that back.
You're getting a spinning back kick too after I'm done with that fucker.

>Chimpanzees? No fucking problem, if you're not afraid of losing a hand or two while taking it out.

's a pretty big deal, yeah.

Sure. If it makes you feel better for being on your couch scratching your balls every night. When the time comes when that extra inch you need to survive comes I guess you'll just have to accept your fate right?

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BASED

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>Chimpanzees
they'd tear your face off man, look at this thing

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doesn't look like he punched him to me. Looks like he hit him with the shot glass.

Also I'd like to add that it's probably easier to name land animals humans can't take on 1 on 1 unarmed.
Let's see, elephants, hippos, giraffes, certain bears, lions, tigers, jaguars, panthers, horses... and that's about it.

Pretty sure that's it actually. Old guy refused his whiskey so he threw it back in his face.

Based Bruce Lee helping emasculated soibois regain their confidence and masculinity.

...Maybe we should start hanging on trees for hours to exercise our arms and core.

Who?

Why do you keep posting people who fight other tiny men?

Why don't you find me the featherweight who can consistently beat light heavyweights.

Face torn off and arm torn off in exchange for outright killing it. Yes it's a high cost but humans could still take them out with ease, especially since we know how to fight dirty like the wild dogs by going for eyes, throat and testicles.
No chimpanzee knows even how to get out of a basic reverse choke hold.

youtube.com/watch?v=oWC6x4Qqwe4
>kicks your head off
>nothing personal kid

Damn, the Irish really are niggers. I thought it was just a meme.

You forgot
>This is just a fantasy/fictional movie, therefore it should be immune to criticism and questionable presentation of real-life characters

I DON'T WANT TO FIGHT A FUCKING ANIMAL

>grunts are stupid
You don’t say

>he doesn't know Mighty Mouse
Thanks for confirming you're a pleb size queen who doesn't know what he's talking about.

Grappling is an aspect of martial arts. The kid was using distance and footwork to keep reaction distance - martial arts. Martial arts work.

I can do that shit, it's basically the same principals of Bruce Lee's bullshit one inch punch. Joe is basically just pushing the bag away

The grip on that motherfucker must be like a crocodile snap.

Why do you think they're also all over boxing and MMA?

Retard.

Stunt men are pretty fit, I’d definitely believe Bruce getting manhandled by a relatively fit middle aged dude with 100lbs on him

Based AznIdentity.

so we can kill them outright at the cost of permanent mutilation and death.
You dumb nigger

Who did they have to sacrifice in order to get that chimp shaven?

I've been posting that picture for like a year now and I never thought about it. Good question.

>middle-aged stunt men are pretty fit
They're still middle-aged.

Even a lower-skilled fighter can take out an old skilled fighter. How much more a young, skilled fighter?

youtube.com/watch?v=rTV7K8CQgqI

Admit it, to claim that an old stuntman can take out Bruce Lee is outright shitting on Bruce Lee.

feel like a big man huh?

The point is that the chimp would sooner die in a physical fight against an unarmed human.

I remember hearing that martial arts were super dangerous hundreds of years ago but much of it got neutered and lost over time. I don't know if it's a myth or not but I could see it being true. No parent is going to sign off on their snot nosed Fortnite brat being taught how to snap a neck at the YMCA

It's a medical condition that causes them to lose fur. In case you were seriously asking.

Sleeping dart and an electric razor probably.

This is true but it's not like top level MMA fighters grow on trees

That's what I was guessing.

No, that's not the case at all.The opposite would actually happen. If a chimp chimps out at you, run and shoot. Run and shoot. You do not stand a chance.

White guys didn't get up in arms about this shit, why do asian guys care about Bruce Lee

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>people engaged in centuries of invasion and repelling enemies passed martial arts through generations for funzies

White guys have accepted being emasculated. Asian males have a chip on their shoulder.

no it wouldn't. For one chimps already fight like
> the wild dogs by going for eyes, throat and testicles.
and second look into chimpanzee biology, the way there muscles develop and output of strength there nerves and brain allows is ridiculous. They also are animals, we have almost lost our killer, primal instincts by comparison

Shaolin monks practicing martial arts is a meme.

Yea Forums threw a chimpout about that, don't lie.

We did get up in arms about that though. Weren't you on Yea Forums when that came out? It's still stupid.

>he doesn't know what he's talking about

Any red-blooded man will be up at arms if their representative of manliness is questioned.

Real material arts sti exist today, but the folk who teach it would never teach anyone who isn’t brain washed like the rest of them. The Shaolin Monks don’t take acolytes unless they are born to the temple in which case your entire life will be the temple and you won’t know anything else. Their king fu is really impressive, but it’s not designed for octagon type matches. It’s a combat art that heavily involves sabers and Spears, which is why they learn wing chun as well. Wing chun is a garbage striking art on its own but hand motions and skills you learn with it are designed to transfer to the type of saber they spar with.

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That advice is given in the interest of safeguarding ones own health, but if it were a matter of life and death human vs chimp with the human fighting with abandon without fear of his own physical health then the humans would win almost every time.

I'd go as far as to say if we sent 100 men to fight 100 chimpanzees (from the same percentile of fitness of their respective groups), the man would win 90% of the time with varying degrees of mutilation.
Maybe 10 would die from the fight alone and this is an overestimate.

youtube.com/watch?v=wgS0KgT5APc

You don't need to be a phenom to win street fights with some good drilling.

I'm not the strongest guy out there but I drill shadow boxing most days for about 30 minutes. I slept a shitskin who came charging at me.

The only reason that image is readily available to you is because of the massive white chimpout on Yea Forums, dummy

>but if it were a matter of life and death human vs chimp with the human fighting with abandon without fear of his own physical health then the humans would win almost every time.

Holy shit you're retarded.

youtube.com/watch?v=w98mem4FVQ0

You should see her friend now.

youtube.com/watch?v=6inhUFpQnOo

>I can do that
>pushing the bag away
You clearly have ZERO training. Please keep talking about shit you dont know.

While we’re at it how much does that bag weigh? Roughly? You should know.

It's like I really am at /r/joerogan

You underestimate the physical strength of humans.
>For one chimps already fight like
> the wild dogs by going for eyes, throat and testicles.
And humans can do it even better, as in systematically target those areas for destruction.
>and second look into chimpanzee biology, the way there muscles develop and output of strength there nerves and brain allows is ridiculous.
And what is a chimpanzee going to do against a kick, a punch, or a reverse choke hold? Nothing.
This isn't an arm wrestling contest, it's a fight to kill.

Only if those 100 men have 100 guns and are snipers. Otherwise, it's a human massacre.

All chimps should be in chimp jail. Fucking assholes

Imagine teaching a chimp BJJ and how dangerous it would be. Jamie can you pull that up.

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>hey this one exception proves the rule.
How about no.
>samurai were a meme
I mean...

dunning-kruger effect?

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Imagine having to live the rest of your life as that thing from the end of The Fly.

literally buy a gun and train with that instead of doing ching chong woo shoo chink mysticism bullshit. The only good hand to hand fighting training does for real life is giving you experience with the pressure of fighting, meaning you'll be less likely to hesitate or panic in the event you actually have to protect yourself. Relying on only your hands and feet is retarded when you can carry SOME type of weapon legally almost anywhere in the world. if carrying a gun or knife is illegal you can get away with carrying shit like screwdrivers or even a sturdy pen would be better than bare handed.

I've seen that. First of all it's a woman which is why I was careful to say man. Second of all she did not have a killer instinct against it as it was effectively her child.
Doesn't change that a man could easily kill a chimp.
Stronger != more lethal.
Chimps may be physically stronger but humans are more lethal, even unarmed.

>himpanzee going to do against a kick, a punch, or a reverse choke hold?
nothing, it's not gonna hurt it much and god forbid it grabs hold of your leg or wrist cause at that point you are not getting back a functional limb. Also again. The chimp is stronger and
STR>INT

youtube.com/watch?v=mdDrQ9-5Ntc

MONKEY STYLE KUNG FU
youtube.com/watch?v=ySMHUacOKDE

God . The things That poor chimp must have seen.

Monkey mind.

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>humans are smarter
Literally has zero bearing in a fight to the death with a chimp save for the fact that a smart human WOULDN'T fight to death with a chimp.

Nah.
The biggest barrier for humans against fighting all out is the fear of injury or death and that's it.
But physically we can take them.

>how to enjoy salty prison cock 101

Based

Stronger = more lethal
Bring a gun to a chimp fight or have your dick ripped off (not a metaphor).

Where do you live like britain or something? Anywhere in the US if you are actually defending yourself you won't go to prison for fighting back

...

Nothing?
A well landed punch would one hit KO a chimp...

Nah, the only way the fact that humans are smarter can make an impact in a fight is if that human shoots a chimping out chimp from far away.

I’m honestly not sure if you are serious or trolling.

Hard to prove sometimes that it was self defense.

Losing your dick != death.
And stronger is not more lethal.
Venomous snakes for instance are not stronger but more lethal.

I'm sure your extended experience in kayoing chimps will come to play here.

Tell that to the guy that killed a bear in a fight.
That's wrong.

>Losing your dick != death
If you call that living

You can't even rip a chimp's dick out, much less his face, so what makes you think you can kill a chimp barehanded?

>martial arts philosopher
how can anyone say that with a straight face

He was a thug before Hollywood tho. I don't get the praise people give him.

>a guy killed a bear
Citation needed including what he used to kill the bear.

>won’t go to prison for fighting back with a screwdriver or a gun
I live in the US. I carry a concealed pistol everyday. You seem to be very uneducated on the laws of certain states. You’re actually advocating a weapon being your go to defense for any situation.

If you want to fuck guys there are easier ways then a manslaughter charge.

when? 99% likely there will be a witness and probably a lot of them in a typical street fight scenario. and if there isn't like in a back alley or some shit it's even more likely that the person attacking you has absolutely zero interest in contacting police. you aren't going to see a crackhead calling 911 after a failed robbery because they will be locked up themselves most likely.

A brain in a skull works on the same principle for all vertebrate animals.
The amount of blunt force humans can generate with their fists is physics-wise enough to knock out a chimp. Not a gorilla maybe, but for certain a chimp. It's not about thickness of skull either.

he was though, philosophy doesn't only mean camus and existentialist shit

He helped spearhead combination striking and grappling martial arts into popularity. Shit like Vale Tudo was blasphemy in the US

to
>humans can beat chimps, chimps ain't shieet

Actually you can probably do both if you weren't squeamish.

I live in the US and carry too you clown. In my state I can defend myself against anyone attacking me with my weapon even if they are bare handed. But it's far more likely that as soon as you draw the gun your attacker runs off anyway which I have actually done.

>A brain in a skull works on the same principle for all vertebrate animals.
Yeah, you should use that brain to not engage chimps in hand-to-hand combat and just shoot the animal if it comes at you.

Pretty sure even you can't even if I'm talking to Low-Tier God or something.

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Ah yes, the one who says martial arts is bullshit assumes his enemy wiwll just stand still and let himself be pepper sprayed and leg sweeped

>martial arts philosopher
You mean all those fortune cookie sayings they post on Facebook attributed to him? That's "philosophy" now?

>empty handed """""""""""""""""""fight""""""""""""""""""""

Obviously, but we're discussing if unarmed humans could take out chimps, so hand to hand combat is a precondition.

>World Famous Hunter takes down bear
>this must mean humans can take out chimps with their bare hands

You are a retard.

did all of you guys fail middle school or something

simply the mindset of adopting various parts from different martial arts is a philosophy. That's it.

>unarmed humans could take out chimps
Pretty sure chimps are more agile than bears and it takes a one in a million shot for a hunter to come down on a chimp the same way Peterson did that bear.

If a human can take out a bear, even if it was a fluke, that speaks volumes about our physical capability. A chimp would be a cakewalk in comparison.

>people that have never stepped foot in a gym or training session in their lives giving thier qualified opinions on martial arts

people are mad at tarantino because he's a morbid idiot that would be out of breath just looking at bruce lee, making him out to be some loser is disgraceful

does that mean when I realized that I can wipe my ass with baby wipes for a cleaner crack that I became a shitting philosopher?

There is no scenario in which a chimp would be harder to kill than a bear. ZERO.
Again a chimp wouldn't be do anything against something as simple as a reverse choke hold.

Likewise, and I'm better with a knife than you. What now, retard?

Tarantino is autistic though, so it's hard to stay mad at him.

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Yea Forums isn't full of neckbeards who have probably grown into their chairs and never had a real fight in their life

Bruce Lee versus a chimp, who wins?

>everyone worship Lee as a pioneer in martial arts
>meanwhile the real pioneer in fighting wasn't recognized until the late nineties (UFC wasn't popular before that)
Get chocked losers

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I know this bait is supposed to make people angry, but I think this is the unintentionally funniest post I've read today.

With nunchucks? Bruce. Without a weapon no man could beat a chimp.

Imagine if Yea Forums existed back when people kept making Bruceleexploitation movies
>NOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT BRUCE LEE IS A LEGEND NEVER FORGET STOP MOCKING HIM YOU FUCKING WHITE BOY NOOOOOOOO

dunno was Lee also a chimp philosopher? could be that critical edge needed to end the fight

So the movie is a parallel universe where Sharon Tate doesn't die?
What happens with Polanski in that scenario?

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Are any of those actually good?

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Very well let's talk about facts in order to make an informed opinon. Tell me, what are Bruce Lee's competitive fighting stats? How was his win/loss ration?

>no man could beat a chimp

well no because

*brings mic closer*

lmao the amount of cope in this post

>people still think chimps are dangerous
The only people chimps can overpower are old ladies and women in general.

In an actual fight, it's literally down to whoever is biggest, whoever is strongest, whoever has the best numbers, and whoever has the best weapons. OP is right, martial arts ain't fucking shit and Bruce Lee never got into an actual fight in his fucking life (which was short because that faggot was so weak a FAKE FUCKING BULLET KILLED HIM).

Front push kick/Muay Thai teep. Quick and unless you're a Manley, your out of range for the knife to do serious damage. What's more, it's actually more difficult to kill a mobile target with your standard 3 - 4 inch foldout blade. Gotta knick something vital or get into stabbing range on someone trying to keep their distance. Thicker fabrics (say, a jacket) are generally sufficient to keep an attacker from being able to get in a good slice.

yes, they LITERALLY have books on that

On shitting philosophy? Damn can I get a rec? I feel like I could be shitting more efficiently

Man I'm honestly afraid of Rogan, a dumb pothead trained in MMA with a veiled bloodlust in his eyes, imagine what he could do if you piss him off for good.

>implying competitive fighting stats are the only way to be an important martial artist or knowledgeable about fighting
What's Cus D'Amato's competitive fighting stats? Mas Oyama? Angelo Dundee's? There's plenty of good martial artists and influential trainers that barely or never fought competitively.

dude he's like fucking 60 lmao

Place your bets

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clones of bruce lee

kys

>I didn't see it on the youtubes, so it never happened!

News flash: their is no recorded evidence of the vast majority of human history.

What's so impressive here? I really don't get it. How hard could punching a bag be?

the gorilla is gonna take a nap

a professional martial artist is not the same thing as a professional fighter. you can participate in gym wars and sparring for your whole life and never compete in a sanctioned environment. lack of a professional record is indication of a lack of desire to make money from individual fights, not lack of skill. if we're still talking about facts, tarantino's scene is still idiotic

Mas Oyama does not belong on that list.

The fake bullet killed his son, Bluce Ree overdosed with a painkiller because his body was a wreck at the age of 32.

Yeah I’m surprised by people’s reactions here. If it came down to it, most AVARAGE MEN (i guess not this pathetic group of lads) would beat the chimp to death. Yes the chimp has fangs and is strong.. but your a human with 100 pounds on this creature. If you die you deserved to.

>"guys bruce lee was the best martial artist EVAR he killed like 100 dudes with one punch"
>can you prove it
>"no but"
Then shut the fuck up. Cameras existed in Bruce Lee's time, and he had access to them. Screenshot or it didn't happen.

Holy moley false equivalence.

I wasn't sure if I should include him or not. He had fights for sure, but verifying them is more difficult than you'd think.
People post stuff like this
mixedmartialarts.com/vault/karate/did-mas-oyama-ever-fight

>In an actual fight, it's literally down to whoever is biggest, whoever is strongest

Welp.

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jstor.org/stable/44437765?seq=1#page_scan_tab_contents

Yeah, that's why they're taught in armies, because they're bullshit

>years of training with an arrow
>killed by a crossbow
>years of training with a crossbow
>killed by a musket
>Years of training by musket
>killed by revolver
>years of training with revolver
>killed by rifle
>years of training with rifle
>killed by machinegun
>years of training with machinegun
>killed by tank
>years of training with tank
>killed by plane
>years of training by plane
>killed by missle
>years of training with missle
>killed by IBCM

woah...so this...is....the story...of humanity

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>can you prove it
His martial arts masters vouch for him. Who vouches for Cliff Booth? Tarantino?

AHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOO!
BRADDU PITTU NOOOOOO PREASE HAB MERCI IM TO WEAK AHHHH !

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If it's a fluke then it's not a good example. Or else we would be using fluke lottery wins as examples of why investing in the lottery is a smart thing to do.

I think by "actual" fight he meant a no rules street fight. Mayweather wins based on his technique and knowledge of the sport of boxing.

>There is no scenario in which a chimp would be harder to kill than a bear. ZERO.
Meanwhile, I have yet to see a human do what he did to that bear to a chimp.

You're making an awful lot of presumptions regarding bears being stronger than chimps by citing a fluke win as proof that humans can take out chimps.

>other phonies say that one phony is legit, so it has to be true!

>moving the goalpost

twitter.com/publicfreakuot/status/1156759984505421824

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Boxing is a sport, not an actual fight. It'd be the same as calling some American handegger a good fighter because he can do a touchdown.

Hiroshima Nagasaki? Isn't that the guy who bought Yea Forums from moot?

>Gene LeBell is a phony
youtube.com/watch?v=n9mER2BmNRA
>Joe Lewis is a phony
youtube.com/watch?v=4kKxPahNHMs

Try again, Cliff.

They're is nothing more idiotic than dopes spouting shit about the ineffectiveness of professional fighters in a real world scenario on the basis that there are no rules on the streets. Look, genius, you're dealing with a guy that had trained to hurt people for hundreds or thousands of hours. Do you think the lack of rules are going to undo the weight training that has harden their body, or a lack of gloves will somehow slow down their strikes? A professional fighter is exponentially more likely to fuck up an opponent than some no-name who has never thrown a punch.

Even if it's a fluke it shows it's possible.
If even a bear is possible, then odds are better for anything less lethal than a bear.
Going by specifics, if a human being's teeth and jaws are strong enough to pinch the jugular of a bear, then imagine the damage they can do to a chimpanzee.

Keep moving the goalpost.
youtube.com/watch?v=GixiLoypomc

Yes but definitely has the looks of someone with autistic rage, and that's a killer.

The goalpost moved when you went from "actual fights" to "boxing." That user just tried to move them back to where they belong. That video also doesn't prove what was said was wrong because the white guys aren't any bigger or stronger than the Asian dude, and lose their number advantage by going for him one at a time.

>something I have 0 experience with I can declare to be phony
Stop posting, Mr Tarantino.

>They're is nothing more idiotic than dopes spouting shit about the ineffectiveness of professional fighters in a real world scenario on the basis that there are no rules on the streets.

Keep going.
youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-4uxU-e7Q

>Meanwhile, I have yet to see a human do what he did to that bear to a chimp.
I've never seen a human do what he did to that bear to a baby either.
The reasoning is not watertight, but it's one of those things you can pretty much determine the outcome of by eye.

I have more than enough experience dealing with phonies and liars, hence why I keep calling you out on your bullshit.

>aren't any bigger
Are you blind son?

see early UFC when there were no weight class divisions and royce gracie beat everyone from 175 pound boxers to 600 pound sumo wrestlers.

>i-it's possible
So your assumption that bears are stronger than chimps is proven where?

What's more, just because it's possible to win at the lottery it doesn't mean automatically that you're certainly win at video slots. Those are completely different scenarios.

No, I'm not blind, daddy. That's how I'm able to see there's no real size advantage.

>The goalpost moved when you went from "actual fights" to "boxing.
I love the fact that you ignored the actual fight where the bigger guy went down against the martial artist to argue hypotheticals.

>I've never seen a human do what he did to that bear to a baby either.

You're presuming a chimp who can tear you face off is equal to a baby though.

What's the best self defense tactic (apart from shooting) if you get attacked? A friend of mine shills krav maga and says that you can easily neutralize your attacker with just a few moves. But I tend to distrust jewish teachings

it's insane how many people on Yea Forums think they can beat Joe just because they are taller than him. He mosr definitely weighs more than most of you and has had years of training.

>come awn its goin down x50

Yes we heard you the first time.

I'm dealing with one thing at a time. You made the assertion that someone else "moved goalposts" when it was actually you who moved the goalposts in the first place. If you don't want me to address this, admit your fault and we can move on to the next point, or just stop replying to me.

>So your assumption that bears are stronger than chimps is proven where?
There are metrics freely available on the internet that prove this.
>What's more, just because it's possible to win at the lottery it doesn't mean automatically that you're certainly win at video slots. Those are completely different scenarios.
You could make the same assumption from a chimps POV.
Imagine for an instance we were all chimps discussing about killing humans. The human is bigger, heavier, has more reach and smarter.
How are you proving that chimps would be able to kill humans with ease?

Word, word. By Oyama's own account, much of the "mysticism" was just to push his dojo. The famous video of him chopping off a bull's horn, for example, was just too look cool, but people ran with the story. The truth is likely in the middle, but I have no doubt that Oyama was no stranger to a scrap. I mean, the guy was a Korean practicing martial arts in the wake of WWII. There was no shortage of people who would want to kick his teeth in.

I'm no fan of Lee, but people like Tarantino like to deconstruct ideals and myths.

John Wayne? A heroic white boomer figure, but to the nihilistic deconstructionist, he's an utter scumbag and probably a closet homosexual. This is often only limited to white ideals and myths, however Tarantino is so nihilistic that he's gone further, by deconstructing an asian icon, so the libshits are pissed.

Tearing a face off doesn't take much strength. A human could tear the face off of a chimp or another human. It's just about applied pressure and the lack of squeamishness/lack of a conscience.

>there's no real size advantage
lolwut?

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That's not a significant, real size advantage.

He's also very clearly suppressing a lot of violent inclinations.

>b-boxing isn't actual fights
>show boxer beating up bigger guys
>doesn't address it

looool you're losing.

>There are metrics freely available on the internet that prove this
Cite the metrics rather than saying the exist.

>How are you proving that chimps would be able to kill humans with ease?
Exhibit A.

mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/jane-goodall-chimpanzees-evil-apes-12170154

Boxing isn't actual fights. It's a sport. The two men are not trying to kill each other. You moved goalposts. Either admit this, and we can continue the conversation, or I'm going to stop replying to you because I'm not interested in repeating the fact that you moved goalposts yet again, and yet I can't let it slide until you've admitted you were wrong. It's your choice, but I suspect this is your final (You).

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>shorter and smaller
>n-no significant size advantage

Goalpost moved yet again.

What are you on about, just look at the two of them. The guy on the right's head is bigger, he's much taller, even when both are in a lower stance, his shoulders are way higher and broader than the other guy's

What the fuck I'm eternally scared of Chimps now

Yeah, I agree completely. Kyokushin is great too.

Sure
youtu.be/pmro9ZiEQKw

Noooo don't point out the only advantage I have isn't due to any merit on my part isn't even that important! I would win automatically with zero experience because I'm taller!

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>The guy on the right's head is bigger
No, he's not. I don't get why you continue lying when anyone with eyes can see that's wrong.

Kaz Sakuraba.

>Cite the metrics rather than saying the exist.
I'll cite google. Google bear bite force pressure, chimp bite force pressure, bear mass, chimp mass, etc.
Also your link is garbage. Jane Goodall is still alive, so that's still a 0 kill count for chimps against humans.

>boxing isn't actual fights
>cite an actual fight
>"t-they the same size" even though they're not

Keep moving the goalpost.

youtube.com/watch?v=ZT26Zc_dk9g

I have never met a group of people who fought as fucking dirty as martial artists.

It's not even all the boxers who just immiediately go to thumbing the eyes and smashing the junk. All I remember is the guy who tried to stop the fight by saying he was a belt in Taekwondo and when that didn't work picked up a rock beaned the dude in the chest and used those taekwondo skills to kick him repeatedly in the crotch.

>muh mass
Meanwhile, astronomically human metrics are outdone by bears such that the one fluke win is might as well be nonexistent and probably a myth perpetuated for tourism.

Thanks for proving your own point wrong.

ITT: Retards who probably think they could beat up a medieval Knight because on average they were Bruce Lee's height

If it's a street fight that means no rules, motherfucker.

So we agree physical metrics don't matter.
Which leaves intelligence.
Which means humans win.
By proving my point wrong you inadvertently lost the argument good job.

Your point for posting that is...?

Was reading a book the other day with letters Bruce Lee wrote to people. One of them was telling someone about how Oyama's new book had just came out. Thought that was cool.

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Medieval manlets BTFO by my Tommygun.

>So we agree physical metrics don't matter.
>So what you cited is a fluke so making bears an example doesn't matter
Nice Strawman, retard. Chimps murder any human. A human lucking out on a bear doesn't prove anything because it''s an unrelated point.

>So we agree physical metrics don't matter.
He didn't say that.
>Which leaves intelligence.
>Which means humans win.
Humans will only win by intelligence by not fighting chimps.
Unless you're a low-IQ retard who thinks you can take on a chimp. Be my guest.

...are we not just posting fun videos?

The only way to intelligently fight a chimp is to Harambe a chimp.

I don't think that guys an actual martial artist. He was just clowning to get in the nigger's head.

Mental game.

Is this the Asian cope channel? Muh karate? lmao

>Do martial arts
>Be repeatedly told that martial arts don't work on the street because "I'll just fight dirty"
>Become paranoid about getting kicked in the groin, getting jumped by multiple people, getting hit by a weapon that you enter the mindset of "well I have to do it before they do it to me."
I like and dislike this trend because on the one hand it is preventing martial artists from being brutalized, but it is also leading to just fucked up over the top brutalization due to the paranoia idiots online have instilled in them.

Like BJJ people. Most people think they're going to just pull guard for some reason, but what I'm seeing now is a front headlock to a running throw into the nearest hard object head first. Which splits skin every time and worse.

But also you do have to worry about being jumped and hit from behind and hit with a weapon so fuck it. I'd rather over react than underreact

No. That's Kung Fu. Don't know what the exact style is but you can see the stance and footwork.

It gets clowned on a lot but he was basically just catching and pitching punches to a dude who wasn't holding his hands up.

>conor mcgregor is a nigger
ftfy. Don't go tarring us all with the some brush user. If that was the case we would write your country of completely as a lost cause.

Amateur boxer here. There was a legit kyokushin dojo in Little Tokyo near my house. Mulled it over for years, put off slipping in time after time. Used to just watch guys spar from the outside. They closed shop some time ago. Still occasionally kick myself (no pun intended) for never giving it a try. Oh, and check out Fighter in the Wind if you haven't already.

Humans murder any chimp, not even a contest.
Humans win against chimp by applied pressure.
Again, you have no retort against a basic reverse choke hold, a simple kick or a punch.
Chimps only know to grab and bite.
Their arm muscles may be strong enough to rip off an arm but they don't know how to apply that strength in a meaningful manner against human fighting styles.
The strongest animal on earth can't protect an artery against teeth or balls against a hand grip.

Please go and try this nonsense. Don't forget to get it on video, with a note in your pocket that says "upload to Worldstar"

>Humans murder any chimp, not even a contest.
not possible unless the human has a machine gun. A chimp's muscles, dexterity, and agility are on a whole other level than a human's.

not to mention their teeth and bite strength.

no you aren't.

>dude a chimp is a literal killing machine I've read some articles on the internet
fuck off, retard.

It would be so pitifully one sided in favour of humans people would probably call it animal abuse.
Muscles don't mean shit if you don't know how to block a kick to the head.
Don't underestimate human bite strength.

you're not even trying to troll now.

Humans would murder trolls with ease as well.

I wouldn't fuck with one and I have been doing martial arts since I was a kid.

youtube.com/watch?v=al-f_WWoHI4

you are indirectly saying that a buffed up midget can beat a normal human
this is factually incorrect

>dude i have seen videos a chimp can kill a human with ease!
How can a chimp kill anything when it has no eyes and its balls are crushed by someone two sizes bigger than him?

a chimp is not a buffed up midget though.

smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-are-chimpanzees-stronger-than-humans-1379994/

youtube.com/watch?v=w98mem4FVQ0

I am. I also have the advantage of not being a self-proclaimed retard.

slate.com/technology/2009/02/how-strong-is-a-chimpanzee-really.html

the reality is quite different from your meme articles
>t-t-the chimp is stronger than a human!
>....if it was actually the size of a human....

the fact that you didnt say gun tells me you live in a cucked society