Why do the English lie so much?

>false because if english players were really "important" they'd be superstars on many teams across many leagues and have more international success.
Why would English players move to a foreign country to play in a worse league where they'd get paid less?

>TAA, Henderson, Stones, Foden, Walker
>Not important
None of the Spanish players would even be in the conversation for top 10 players at Real Madrid

well the highest wages for a player are in madrid or barca or psg. does that make la liga or ligue 1 better than epl? no of course not.
so, to answer your question, you would go abroad and get paid less if it meant you would get more experience, game minutes, intensive training...

basedleirão has only 12,8% foreigners

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>you would go abroad and get paid less if it meant you would get more experience, game minutes, intensive training
British players that aren't starting in England are doing that when young to gain experience, see Sancho, Oxford, Bellingham, Hickey, Edwards, Madueke, Abraham. It's just the PL is the pinnacle of football right now so there's no reason for the top players to leave

the problem isn't top players, it's the frauds that are getting paid tons of money to do nothing and don't want to leave. look at united right now or what happened to barcelona. when those teams lose and miss out on tv revenue they have to up the price of tickets, viewership, merchandise etc. and asking fans to pay more to watch shitty teams is ridiculous. it's all good now but blowing insane amounts of money on blundershitga frauds is a death sentence, especially on english players like sancho. so when revenue cant cover costs they have to make new sources of revenue, which is the whole point of the super league--it wasn't greed, it was a shared-revenue league with stability.

I agree. Real Madrid fans can't and shouldn't say a word about foreigners in other clubs. For a team and a fanbase that likes to claim they are "the most Spanish", it's embarrassing. That doesn't make Liverpool or City English though.

In any case, attacking Villarreal or other La Liga teams for that reason is stupid. OP's picture about the quantity of outsiders in each league has a point.

>so when revenue cant cover costs they have to make new sources of revenue, which is the whole point of the super league--it wasn't greed, it was a shared-revenue league with stability.
United are completely fine in that regard, they have one of the lowest cost to revenue ratios in the league. The English teams weren't the ones really pushing for the super league it was the European clubs who are nervous about how much TV revenue the PL gets compared to them

Spanish clubs are smart, They have the smallest average squad sizes too. You don't play better football with 30 average shitters rather than 22 good players

How do you let the riches of a football obsessed continent slip through your fingers to Portugal?

>Sterling isn't English

OK then. so if he was born in London and moved to Kingston Jamaica aged 5, would be he English because of his birthplace, or Jamaican because of where he grew up?

but why did those other leagues lose revenue?
does a team like United lose fan (and future player) loyalty, good-will, faith and nostalgia when they bring in foreign shitters and overpay hometown bums? the average zoomer today doesn't remember rooney or ronaldo, just the jlingz and the trashfords and the masonic greenrapes of the club.

Jamaican because his parents are Jamaican

>How do you let the riches of a football obsessed continent slip through your fingers to Portugal?
Brazillian players are mercenaries

Gomez, Milner and Elliot get games. Jones is occasionally trusted. Chamberlain is a crock so perfect for his eventual move to the Geordies (his missus will love that). Grealish was a £100m signing for City. What is the argument here again?

Dont we have an extra domestic cup than them? And the bottom 5 teams in la liga are much worse than the bottom 5 in the prem

>Man City GA 21
>Liverpool GA 22

>Real GA 29
>Sevilla GA 28

Not to mention Bayern or PSG...

br*ts don't like facts. they lie as they breathe, it's in their nature.

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>Why do the English lie so much
Its their nature

Okay mate, then literally zero Irish novelisits are actually Irish, they're all English (apart from Joyce).

But we don't do that

You literally are though, where are Macatee, Palmer and Delap for Man City? Why have you included fringe players for the Dpanish teams but only pretty much 1st teamers for City and Liverpool? Never trust a Spaniard bros.

If your parents are from London and you were born in London, you are English even if you move to China. It's easy to understand. Same with Jamaica.

I just incluye the first team players.
If I had included the players from the youth team, Madrid would have 13 players.
Those you have named are from Man City U23

All of those players will be integrated into the squad if they're good enough like Foden.

>Miller isn't a star

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whered you get the table
looks cool

>No, Sterling was born in Kingston, Jamaica. It's like saying that Thiago Alcantara is spanish or Laporte is spanish because he grew up as a footballer in Spain.
Sterling grew up in England period. He arrived at age 6

this looks like transfermarkt

>Sterling grew up in England period.
and? Does that make you English?
Ansu Fati is spanish too? lol

>>City and Liverpool at least have english players on their teams, not like Madrid or Villarreal who don't have spanish players.
literally, and i mean literally, have never seen this said

you're mixing different arguments up though. you're making a birthplace trumps everything argument about Sterling. he's not English because he was born in Jamaica. if he had 2 Jamaican parents, but was born in England, and was raised in England as well, would you still say he wasn't English? if not, then had he been born in England with 2 Jamaican parents, then moved to Jamaica, surely he would be English, if you're going to be consistent.

if the argument is ultimately racial, then how are any black players counted as being English?

>Does that make you English?
Yes
>Ansu Fati is spanish too?
Yes

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Dude, Villarreal are fucking shit so of course they have lots of Spaniards. Real Madrid have about the same as Liverpool. And Liverpool and Man City literally did start the same amount of native players as Real Madrid, just like we said. We never said that they had more native players in their squad or that we have more natives in our league. You bring this up because you twist the truth.

As Spanish as Diego Costa or Laporte

i don't doubt that somebody tried to say it, but you're more than likely sperging out in response to 1-2 shitposters. the PL is well known to have lots of foreign players.

No, im not mixing anything
Are we seriously arguing that a person born in Jamaica with Jamaican parents is Jamaican? Are you stupid?

>City and Liverpool at least have english players on their teams, not like Madrid or Villarreal who don't have spanish players.
None of us care about which nationality of players La Liga teams have though. Why would we? We don't watch that league.

They are on occasion put into match day squads

Believe it. English always talk about """"banter""" when they are just being serious and stupids lol.

How many Spaniards started in Real Madrid's 3 CL finals in a row, m8?

>During this week I read that comment several times, always written by a briton, presumably english, using that argument to discredit and devalue the spanish teams that compete in the Champions League

Do yourself a favor and read well, I’m talking about CL.

>they lost the King's Colours

There's a difference between coming as a kid and growing up there and coming later for your career.

So what is Ansu Fati? Is 6 years old too late?

Did Ansu Fati grew up in Spain? Does he consider himself Spanish? I think you know the answer lad

Europeans weakmind. Countries small and weak. Unlike Chile. Chile long and strong. Can go across entire Europeans.

Callate awebonao.

No.
His parents even wanted him to play with Portugal, and he played with Spain because he knew the rest of the players. Ansu Fati cares as much about Spain as I care about France

Barcelona Spanish starters in 2015 CL final-4
Madrid Spanish starters in 2016,2017,2018-2,3,3
Atleti Spanish starters in 2016-5
Total Spanish starters in 5 CL final appearances-17

Liverpool English starters in 2018,2019-3,2
Spurs English starters in 2019-5
City English starters in 2021-4
Chelsea English starters in 2021-3
Total English starters in 5 CL final appearances-17

Why don't you lying Spanish cunts jump in front of traffic?