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>Crime gradually declines as people see more and more crime in their lives
wtf are you talking about

crime musicals and fantasy documentary

Unironically a really interesting graph.

> Documentaries skyrocket at the same time as instrument of controlling public opinion

No, user - think about it a bit. I've personally watched way more documentaries over the last few years than I would have in the past, and it all has to do with the primary method of viewing films. In the past, who was going to pay for a ticket to see a documentary in theaters, or rent it on home video? But now with streaming sites, why not pop one on? Who doesn't want to watch Louis Therouxkino?

Why is there no such thing as drama? I guess americans cant comprehend anything thats not easily classified by how it looks.

You're actually retarded.

Documentaries have increased massively as the means to produce a decent one costs nothing these days. Not to mention you can produce a documentary yourself and have it distributed, it's not as though there's an ideological monopoly on Documentaries being produced and they're easier to perceive bias in than other genres.

Crime has and always will be a problem and your link between Horror and sexual excess is nonsensical given that if anything people don't get shocked at sex or sexuality in anything anymore. If anything people crave horror because of the comfortable trappings of modern society and the ease the internet allows viral marketing to push shitty jumpscare movies.

people don't want to see movies romanticizing crime when someone just broke into your car

>"For me, it's sissy hypno CEI, how did you guess?

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But crime had been going down between 1994 and 2012.

i thought he meant he impression of crime and violence in media making it seem all around despite it trending down

> horror
the connection between horror and sexual disgust is well established. The "Monster" in horror movies usually is related to some abandoned morality taking its revenge
> crime
Crime skyrocketed in the mid 60s to mid 70s as blacks were emancipated in northern cities. It has not been a constant, and explains the decline of crime as a genre

Giant Monster Movies

do you really believe that?

>Sissy hypno? Nice, very good, not a big fan of CEI however but each to their own brother

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I don't disagree that Horror movies involve playing on the audience by evoking uncomfortable sexual imagery. I disagree with you that this is what drives the rise in it when there are much more obvious and larger reasons. The relaxing of Censors being the most obvious one that comes to mind that resulted in the boom of Horror movies in the 70's and beyond.

As for crime they've simply been repackaged into network TV shows. They've not gone away they just don't much crime movies anymore because it's a network TV genre now.

What caused the collapse of the musical?

You don't understand horror.

Probably the rise of the actual music industry.

because musicals are fucking gay

That's impossible to answer because the best films have aspects of multiple genres in them.
The apex of the spike in "War" is during the war years.
> Westerns disappear when Jews break the production code and start producing porn
Wierd unrelated tie-in but ok.
> Documentaries skyrocket at the same time as instrument of controlling public opinion
I see where you're going with this, but you disregard the fact that documentaries are cheap to produce content for and distributed in different forms.
>>Crime gradually declines as people see more and more crime in their lives
Crime is way less than it was just 20 years ago. Almost every TV show is crime-based.
>>Horror increases as people's horror of sexual excess syrockets
What?
>>Musicals vanish as lyrical, harmonic music has been replaced by racially charged violent screeds
Yes because all music is a single genre, idiot. Also you disregard that theatre (the best medium for musicals) has grown immensely the last 30 years.
Anyone who wasn't born in the 90s or after does because they lived it you dolt.
This, literally every other TV show is a crime drama. Either fictional or real (which overlaps with documentary which has grown out the roof).
Considering Broadway and off-broadway musical theatre is making more bank than ever, it switched mediums.

Hi JIDF

where to start.
old fashioned, writing songs is hard, telling a story with song breaks is harder than just writing a story, getting actors that can sing, or paying singers to sound like their actors doing singing, niche - lots of people don't like them, disney cornered the market, etc, etc, etc

I used to think this too, but then I started watching the odd musical here and there on TCM. A movie musical is much different from a Broadway musical (which are in fact, the gay). Movie musicals are actually pretty based.

>each genre has a different axis range, so these lines show popularity relative to other years

into le trash it goes

It was still popular as hell in the 30s through to the 65ish, then it precipitously dropped.

That makes sense, any of the musicals I can recall and I don't watch them were broadway shit - Cats, Rent, ect.

I think your idea coupled with the user above give the best assessment.

Thriller, I guess.

I disagree with you on the difficulty. At least in terms of storytelling. It's actually much easier to convey what characters think and feel through song and montage since they're expositional by nature in most movies. You can literally have the characters tell the audience how they think and feel with the music providing emotional cues too, they're much easier to consume. The actual songwriting is obviously the hard part like you say along with Disney killing off the genre with their monopoly

Yes. It was basically state funded war propaganda.

It's hard for me to pin down one single genre, as my favorite series spans several genres. Horror, action, fantasy, sci-fi, thriller. I guess this flexibility has played a part in it's longevity. It's been going strong for 65 years. Why, now that I think about it there are
>only 205 days until Godzilla vs Kong

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>It's actually much easier to convey what characters think and feel through song and montage since they're expositional by nature in most movies.

yeah montage. or a monologue or narrator. writing an emotional scene and then having a character break into song runs the risk of being completely absurd.
and if you need to have your character sing to explain to an audience how they feel then you've already fucked up.

Crime, by far.

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>Western & War
Fucking hell, my favourite ones...

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horror is my fav genre. tfw no qt to cuddle and watch horror movies with all night.

you say that but that's literally how 90% of musicals are. Les Miserables is probably a good example. Javert literally explains his whole motivation and reason for being in the story in his big song and why he's doing the things he's doing. If we're talking older musicals singin' in the rain is nothing but catchy songs that sum up the characters' emotions

One of the reasons La La Land never worked for me was that the characters would have an emotional moment and then too long between songs makes you forget that it's supposed to be a musical and then when they start singing and dancing again it's pretty jarring.

>You will not post the following outside of Yea Forums:
>Racism
>>>/global/rules/3

Do drama films not exist?

Westerns
But there's like 2 good ones ever

look at this tool

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good musicals uses their songs as the release or a conversation, where an exchange has happened or where right about now you'd expect that character to start screaming. phantom of the opera has that great reprise when he seems christine and raoul confess their love and leave together, you know he feels betrayed, but the song conveys that he's made a decision and it's going to lead the direction of the rest of the story.
that takes a certain skill and dedication and t's hard enough to do that without throwing in some catchy lyrics and instruments, timed perfectly without breaking the flow of the scene. just pop a ''and that's when i decided to make her life a living hell'' voice over and cut, saves a hell of a lot of work.

War Westerns

My favourite is fantasy. Hard to believe this chart, because it feels like they don't make fantasy movies at all anymore.

It must be time for a musical-war-western.

That's because the axes are fucked.
The Axis for Fantasy goes between 0 and 4% while Comedy is between 0 and 40%, and that makes them look comparable despite comedies being 10 times more prevalent.

I only know one, and it's Soviet.

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You probably know more about it than me i'll concede. I don't dislike musicals but i usually don't choose to watch them despite having seen a few (mostly from social obligation to partner).

Out of interest what did you think of La La Land

>>>/chapo/

i haven't seen it yet it doesn't really appeal to me. all the acclaim it's won don't really sway me either (it's a movie about how great hollywood is made in hollywood, shocking).
it's nice to talk about musicals on Yea Forums though that doesn't happen much.

*snap*

it's high time for a western/war musical

It is overrated for sure and yeah occasionally on Yea Forums you actually meet people who are interested in TV and Film, that have wider interests than whatever disney or netflix have coming out

>he has not seen El Alamo

based

I like thriller horror, and comedy so I am doing pretty OK.

this, kids, is what happens when you browse /pol/ all day.

> Crime gradually declines as people see more and more crime in their lives

That is literally, empiracally, objectively false.

Yes, I too would pretend to be blind

Notice how the only country with genres is the US, foreign movies are all plain boring drama.

What if we separated real scifi from capeshit?

>1a - Sci-Fi
>1b - Fantasy
>2 - Casting Couch
>3 - Hidden Cam

Horror, followed by crime films

10 years ago did you have to worry about your car being broken into?
how about 5 years ago?
how about today?
> Crime is going down!
literally, empirically and objectively false

>interest in fantasy plummets during the crash of '29
Honestly, that one looks like it's indexed to the fucking Dow Jones.

Back to pol, faggot

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ass2ass

Maybe if you actually lived in the 70s and 80s, you'd realize the trend is going toward less crime rather than higher crime. Also you still never reconciled that crime drama type media has dominated Television, and that the rise of documentaries (which have a lot of "real crime" subjects) contribute to the "fall" of crime subjects in film. But you have a narrative to promote, so fuck all things outside of your narrative.