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S2 was a piece of shit except for the Son of Sam & Manson interviews.

I wonder if this guy is a prelude to Dahmer and his predilection for crossing racial lines.

Reposting Bittaker comments:

>The FBI interviewed you twice to learn about serial killers. What was that experience like?
>Yeah, John Douglas [a now-retired FBI profiler]. He thought he was smart. He dressed down for me. He brought another FBI agent, Mary Ellen O’Toole. She was hot.

>What was your problem with Douglas?
>Well, the first thing I mentioned was that he dressed down. He wore denim and a jacket. This guy thinks he’s slick. He thought he could fit in with me. He thought calling a woman a bitch in front of me would get me to like him. He thought he could con me. I wasn’t saying anything. I can’t blame the guy for trying. He was playing little mind games. He used the term ‘bitches’. I don’t refer to females as ‘bitches’

Holden BTFO

Atlanta changed Holden

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Anyone paid attention to Tench's soundtrack when he would deal with his son's problem?

So creepy, felt like a sci-fi terror OST, I wish they would use it in other scenes
I can't find it on youtube, do you guys know the name/link?

SHUT UP HOLDEN I CANT HELP YOU CATCH A NOTORIOUS SERIAL KILLER THIS WEEKEND I HAVE TO FLY HOME TO TAKE CARE OF MY WIFES SON OK?!?!?!

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Tench's kid won't become a serial killer. It's too obvious, too on the nose. They'll use him as an example of a kid with a fucked up childhood who won't become a monster himself.

very slow chilling burn with meaningful tension

>Latinos and blacks would respect an elderly woman too much. No, we are looking at poor white trash.
what did Tench mean by this in s1?

???

or he'll become homosexual

This season was better than S01

More interviews and it felt like a real detective tv show, altho I enjoy it more when all the Atlanta stuff was in the background

Anyway, Holden will definitely get a personal arc like Tench and dr "need a dick in her life" next season. I didnt mind these characters arcs, it was good, I guess. I just cant stand Tench's wife and
I hope FUCKING DEBBIE DONT COMES BACK REE

I felt for Holden, all alone, nobody calling or waiting for him, specially the final scene of the season, he is just like me, guys

Happened last year I think. A guy posted a pic of the woman he’d just murdered. He was caught the next day or something.

Is Holden /our guy/?
I loved him this season

Is his wife retarded? Do 400 Social Services agents just go away when you stop being in compliance and kidnap "your" (their) child?

Was this relationship anti-lesbian propaganda?

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>it's a Holden can't outwit the mentally disabled despite being a psychologically gifted profiler episode

holden knows the score

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the bartender isn't a real lesbo desu

next season Holden starts reading Foucault and discovers MKUltra glowniggers behind every serial killer

>outwit
he didn't even try and half-assed the interviews because he thought there was nothing to gain from those literal retards

Why was this scene so ominous like something horrible just happened?
He got in time and put the cross in place.. Right?

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The fucking lesbian relationship ruined the whole season for me. Holy fucking shit. It was about 50 times more dragged out and pointless than Debbie & Holden.

nah, Billy Bob Thornton outsmarted him

I was fast forwarding that bullshit. The most boring, forced storyline in this whole season.

Oh damn, BASED Pliers

You can't trust eye witness testimonies even in non-threatening situations. You definitely can't trust the ones of people under duress. We simply haven't evolved to remember specific details about an attacker, because we're too focused on the short-term survival.

It was about nothing, no message there, but it actually showed things are more complicated then it seems: things an incel virgin can't understand because they think relationships are a fixed set of rules

I like the part where they revealed that Dr. Carr might not even be a lesbo, since her first sexual thing wasnt about gender but about feeling recognized, apreciated and all that gay bs
If it was a man, she would have felt in love in the same way
"You are just a bartender" based, i want to fuck the lesbo out of her so bad

Holden's gf stuff at least had some purpose in his character arc and the way the killers affected him in his personal life. Lesbian stuff this season was kind of pointless.

reposting my reply

Could be responsible for a different concurrent string of murders, could be a family member, lots of things are possible
anyway
>Identified as a suspect via public DNA database
sign up for a free report of some bullshit about your ancestors with 23&me today!

>intelleck? what is he saying? I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S SAYING

it was just filler to give the doc something else to do

>ruined the whole season for me
Are you stupid? Just fast foward
Jesus, you guys whine about everything
Just fast foward like me and be done with it

why not have her do more interviews, and then they develop more conflict between her desire for field work and Gunn, plus giving Smith more screentime to be less of a joke

>"WOULD YOU FUCKING BABOONS LISTEN TO THE PROFILE, PLEASE?! IT'S ONE OF YOU DIRTY COONS THAT'S KILLING YOUR 'CHILLUNS', YOU BRAINDEAD MONKEYS! TENCH, GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING LIGHTER!"

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I'm signing up just to make sure any rapist or killer relatives I might have will get caught. :^) My dad's side is full of truckers, so some will probably be sifted.

And no, it couldn't be a family member. They put the DNA up online and got a match with a family member. Then they checked out which relatives were present in the area during those years and took DNA from those people's trash. Then once they got a match with his trash they brought him in and did another check. The profile 100% matched him. He did it, it was all his MO and it all happened while he was in the area, there's not lots of things possible.

Did you black out the second the scene ended?
Another body was found while they were putting together the cross.

I did you braindead fuck. The sheer amount of fast forwarding I had to do in general with this season speaks volumes. I didn't expect Netflix to make something of a good thing 2 seasons in a row anyways.

I'm 3 episodes into season 2 and it's fuckin awful.
WTF happened?
the acting is off. the dialogue or something. I can't pinpoint it, but something is off.

>I'm signing up just to make sure any rapist or killer relatives I might have will get caught. :^) My dad's side is full of truckers, so some will probably be sifted.
bootlicking snitch

It's only going to get shittier and shittier with the high points being a couple of interviews. Have fun.

Georgia really redpilled Holden.
Him joining the KKK was pure Raimi kino!

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Day of the rope coming soon, uncle.

idiot, the early episodes of s2 is the series' peak

Nah This season was alright. I drop 95% of all series, but this one kept my interest.
Lesbo and autist storylines were boring filler though

probably cured him of his fagmount too

So? It's one of many. Why would this affect their plan?
The implication was that he asked black mother task force to help, but he fucked up with the cross somehow.

Only thing I gleaned from the lesbo storyline was how Carr is similar to that first gay killer she interviewed and how she was just another bottom in the new one can someone inform me on what else I missed? Tench's stuff at least had some relevance to the plot

It was a sloppy edit, in the originally shot scene he burned the cross

He wasn't able to put them all down in time

>everyone liking Holden
I found him stupidly annoying. Like unbearable narcissistic everything gotta be about him. He can't just shut the fuck up and not ruin things. So fucking needy for approval yet does the opposite of what he's told and be a smug prick about it. Reminded me of how I hated Sabrina from her show with her "I know this is against the rules but I'm special" bs. His stupid insisting that there's one killer and so sure he's gotta be right and pissy attitude when the world didn't go his way sucked. I wanted more tench on the scene than anything cause Holden was so unbelievably stupid without him. Hopefully next season he goes full into work now without a family and does more interviews.

>similar to... killer
i think that's the point of a lot of the subplots/characterizations

Holden was right about everything.

nah probably just an incel

Yeah no shit he's a dick.

He was right tho, he was just frustrated about all the politics and hoops he had to jump through, they were letting his unit employ the new tactics they were formed for

>"C'mon, Holden. You can't seriously expect us to believe that 13 percent of the population is commiting 50 percent of the violent crime."

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>Like unbearable narcissistic everything gotta be about him. He can't just shut the fuck up and not ruin things.
I hope you know this is 100% intentional
He's an arrogant dickhead

Manson it's overrated. Jim Jones was a better manipulator and he caused more deaths than Manson.

No it isn't you pathetic state cucked slag. Unbelievable that you would reference a fantasy popular revolt after deferring to technostatist authority for petty vendetta points against your own family. You don't know what you believe in. But keep meming online about how you're gonna own the shit out of your family members by selling out your genome

they should let Kemper join the team next season

underrated

The show literally showed him as a copelet who got cucked out of leadership position in his own cult by a chad, and then went on to cope in prison by bragging about trivial shit while all the real serial killers like Kemper just laughed at him.

The most authentic Manson portrayal ever

There was even a scene where he tell bill how he should know the narcissistic types and bill just gives him the side eye

He is based. Turbo high functioning autist who is almost always right and doesn't give a fuck about politics and authority.

>tfw Manson didn’t do the speech from the death grips song

I was hoping he would’ve

Anyone else catch the glimpse of our boy in episode 6?

Season was good overall. Looking forward to Alaska next season.

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>"You've convinced me. I'm gonna abandon my kid and my cunt of a wife. From on out, we're the Baboon Slaying Unit."

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>He dindu nuffin da kkk keeld dem keedz

>Looking forward to Alaska next season.
The actor that plays Tench says production moves to LA next season.

He's not wrong but he's still a vermin. Bittaker should have been tortured to death for weeks and weeks.

So who will they have then?

I thought it was just how hard it was to date and how lonely she was. That trying to get a pet cat and failing and it probably dying in the beginning before she starts the relationship that also dies. She just doesn't try hard enough to make one work. Not just the closeted aspect but her pretentious cold attitude. She wants the cat and the woman and her job to come to her. She doesn't work toward them and gets mad they don't just go towards her and the relationships die.

I think it's kinda interesting cause she is good at her job. She did great at interviewing and can remain calm unlike Holden or Tench because she doesn't get emotionally invested and is patient enough to wait for others to reveal themselves without giving her intentions. But that trait isn't good for relationships where you have to communicate what you want. It's kinda the opposite problem the guys have. Where with the strain of dealing with psychos changes how they see others. Wendy is used to dealing with psychos, doesn't change her, but her emotionally restraint that allows her to be good at that makes her fail at normal relationships.

Next year I hope

Night Stalker? EARONS?

Spoonfeed me. I haven't had the time to watch the new season yet

Ramirez

Disappointing, Ramirez was kind of boring and I don't even know if profiling made much of a difference when catching him.

Agree. The evidence against Wayne isn't even strong for the 2 murders he was actually convicted of, and it's obvious he had no involvement in the majority of them. It wasn't until Barney had one of the cops look into pedo records that they discovered the pedo ring, but by then they already nabbed their scapegoat. I think it's extremely likely Holden was part of the cover-up so more black children could be murdered, and then just by "coincidence" their last day on the bridge watch happen to catch his profiled suspect.

>EARONS
I wish but it's imposible. The main villain it's BTK.

Ramirez was (is) such a cocksucking faggot.

This. Ramirez it's only the typical edgy. Dahmer would be the guy.

The show would spike into 11/10 kino if they covered EARONS. Won't happen though.

I just hope they dont cover Ridgway, he's so goddamn boring
>hurr durr me kill hookers
Who the fuck cares, god, Ridgway was literally known as an actual moron by everyone who knew him, and confirmed sub-90 IQ lmao.

Why is it impossible? Kemper foreshadowed him this season and mid 80s is when he moved to murder. It’s possible that they might just not catch him and have to grapple with a case going cold.

>She did great at interviewing and can remain calm unlike Holden or Tench because she doesn't get emotionally invested and is patient enough to wait for others to reveal themselves without giving her intentions.

Except that gay dude shut her off completely

If they do Ridgeway then there will scenes of them interviewing Bundy for help

>Kemper foreshadowed him this season
when?

Literally wrong about there being a single killer and has to admit he was too fixated on being right to see that. In fact his constant insisting there was only one killer let Atlanta justify not solving the full case. Plus he was wrong on the killer being at the march and another boy died. Thinks because he's good at making a profile he's clever enough to solve whole cases without any legwork or evidence and gets pissy when told that's not how the legal system works.

It doesn't seem likely that they would pull TWO cases of serial killers getting away.
The reason BTK is built up slowly as the final boss is precisely because Douglas never caught him, and was frustrated about it.
They can't just add ANOTHER one that they can't catch because this would make BTK not be special anymore.

Exactly what do you think will happen from uploading some DNA markers to a corporation's website, except for cucking potential rapists and killers?

How? He wasn't caught in 2005, do you think they'll do a timeskip?

Ed asked if they were trying to go after him

He asked if they had someone they couldn’t catch and then specifically asked if it was the East Area Rapist

>implying season 5 doesn’t end with them catching BTK

>Jim Jones
Just reminded me, when are we going to get some Jonestown kino? Vince "Bravo" Gilligan said he was working on it with HBO

>most boring, forced storyline in this whole season
>when whatever that lesbain storyline was supposed to be exists

>no user, selling out your DNA along with literally every other piece of personal data that accumulates about you in a lifetime of online exchange is actually a good thing, and here's why
>those who have done nothing wrong have nothing to fear!
this is what sub 100 IQ feels like?

Yeah but considering other interviews aren't all successful it's not bad since she's starting out. Plus I liked that she could admit she was wrong without ego and wanted to improve. I was really hoping she'd interview more since she could potentially be better than Holden and Tench at it with her calm demeanor and psych background.

>Vince "Bravo" Gilligan said he was working on it with HBO
pls no

fucking kek!

Production moving to LA has nothing to do upcoming plot lines. The first two seasons were shot in Pittsburgh yet don't take place there. Word is Fincher is moving production to LA because he's literally run out of background actors to use on the show, and he's too autistic to reuse anyone even if they're just a blurry figure in a crowd for half a second. Season 3 could be about anything.

that doesn't mean shit. you can shoot almost anywhere and claim it's somewhere else. alaska isn't completely covered in snow and you can find similar terrain in california

You're not selling them tissue that they can do something with, like if you gave blood or anything like that, it's literally just DNA markers stored in a database that can't be used against you, you fool. Nobody's going to store the swab to frame you in ten years, they'd just get some of your trash and get DNA from that. Or there'd be a fuck-up at the crime lab and your test would be tainted. And once again you tried to conflate a corporation with the state. Do you live in some communist country or what? Way to go trying to move the goalposts to being about online data though. Real subtle.

It's worse than that even. You have to pay to give away your genome and cuck yourself and your family out of your genetic anonymity.

>Literally wrong about there being a single killer
Yeah? Prove it.

I think it's somewhat telling that a lot of the interesting things that happen to Holden in the show (like Kemper waiting for a guard change then saying he could probably decapitate him before they could do anything or the Mason sunglasses thing) that are based on real life events actually happened to Robert Ressler not John Douglas.

>even if they're just a blurry figure in a crowd for half a second.
To be fair, a series dealing with serial killers is the one time you really wouldn't want a guy to keep showing up in the background, because it might very well confuse the audience into thinking the extra is the killer revisiting the crime scene, or a killer stalking the main character. You don't have that problem with an action movie or anything like that.

>alaska isn't completely covered in snow
Sure but isn’t the killer they would cover in Alaska a guy that would take his victims to frozen tundras and hunt them down? A little hard to find something that looks like that in LA

In what way?

>iterally wrong about there being a single killer
wut m8, Holden knows Wayne didn't kill *all* of them, and wants to look into the pedos he, Tench, and Barney, discover, but the city of Atlanta and the FBI stop him for various reasons

Which one joined the Klan IRL?

They have woods in LA. Do a shot of a plane landing on a lake and then slap a blue filter on the forest scenes and you're golden.

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kek

Would a Klan member want to join the feds? Seems counter productive to their ideology.

Is Fincher actually staying involved with the show? Originally Season 2 was listed with Fincher directing the finale like Season 1, but then he got replaced by le black TV man

On the show Holden joins the Klan.

>The evidence against Wayne isn't even strong
Yes it is. The retrospective analysis in 2007 further proves that he killed the boys.

It's understandable. A show like this has a lot of different locations with people milling around in the background. Plus Mindhunter is period specific, so that eliminates a significant pool of people use can use. Even finding more 70's cars in good condition probably became a challenge. The show is a hit, though, so it seems Netflix has no problem coughing up the extra costs of filming in LA.

I see no possible scenario in which David Fincher is content with a blue filter standing in for actual winter. He’s a crazy perfectionist and would do shit like Iñárritu demanded for The Revenant

This see

why did people at the APD cover up other possible murders when referenced at the end?

>they purposely destroyed the photos of black children
>at least 2 other killers may have gotten loose

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DNA tests were done later on. Wayne allegedly did the majority. Even the real life Holden said that he believes majority was Wayne but that there are some murders which weren't done by him and that the cops know who did them.

Man I'm sorry. I didn't realize how ignorant you are. If you aren't aware of corporate complicity and cooperation with ABC agency personal data acquisition, storage, sorting,aggregation, etc, I just don't know what to tell you that would convince you. Oh maybe except WE LIVE IN A SURVEILLANCE STATE, ARE YOU LIVING UNDER A FUCKING ROCK? THERE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS STATING PLAINLY THAT THE STATE ENGAGES IN MASS DATA COLLECTION THROUGH CONSCRIPTED MASS MEDIA COMPANIES LIKE GOOGLE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER, ETC. WAKE THE FUCK UP

But go ahead, DNA is just one more straw on the pile right? You feel safe in your anonymity because nothing has ever set off alarms in your lizard brain that everything you do online is tracked and recorded to the highest degree afforded by modern technology. This isn't goalpost moving, DNA *IS* personal data. It is the ultimate personal data, and you just said 20 minutes ago that you would fucking give it up just for some petty, misplaced sense of justice over your weird little disdain complex for part of your family. What a faggot

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Epstein level of pedophilia involving politicians, FBI etc.

The Klan learnt their lesson about being flamboyant with the crosses and hoods and started talking about joining police forces instead. You'd hope the FBI would have a good enough check on their people to not be fooled by them, though, with all the background checks they do.

This show is unwatchable because the main actor is gay in real life
Gay men can't play straight

The murders stopped so it makes no political sense to pursue it further and let the public think there are more predators out there

>i never saw The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
besides, filters are one of the most important and basic tools in photography/cinematography, i doubt someone as technically obsessed as Fincher has a fundamental problem with them

It’s implied members of the APD were in on it.

Good thing Holden is asexual then.

I am o /pol fag and i like him, he plays well and is autistic and direct.
He also didn't care about the melanins feelings, straight up told them a kang killed the keedz

but I thought there were no signs of sexual abuse to the children's bodies when found

why would a pedophile ring with members of the APD just kill kids without sexually assaulting them first?

wish I could give Holden some lovin

I get the impression that was sort of a strategic decision on Fincher's part since the last few episodes had a much bigger black cast. Maybe he felt an older black director could capture the sentiments of the case better.

They couldn't determine that, the boddies where rotting in the water.

What kind of filters are you talking about? Optical filters?

Fincher went to film in Sweden for TGWTDT I don’t see how that works against the point that he would want to film in the real thing as much as possible

Here's the thing, tho - this is just like the movie about the black NASA mathematician. They took a real story, and changed it to fit their narrative. That woman did work at NASA, she was respected, but that's not good enough.
Same here. The woman Wendy is based on wasn't a doctor, wasn't gay, didn't move to Quantico, didn't go on interviews, and didn't take a position in the FBI. She was a nurse practitioner, had a husband, and kids. She consulted with the FBI, from Boston.

See, this is historical fiction. I'm okay with a little fuckery, but this is Braveheart fuckery, just to sell a show and an agenda. The development of the FBI's techniques and profiling is interesting enough without changing this much. Her being gay brings nothing to the story. Her having 10000000% more to do with what was going on in the real story is just nonsense. This is happening more and more, where actual history is being changed to insert women and minorities, because the efforts of white men - the FBI and cops who caught these killers, isn't acceptable on their merits now, they have to share the glory with a fictional lesbian insert.
I like the actress, she's attractive, but her character is shit. And what her character represents is filthy. Do a show about successful lesbians, that actually happened. Stop inserting them where they didn't exist. It's like doing a movie on the Lewis and Clarke expedition and making Lewis a tranny. It's not accurate, and only serves to push an agenda. (Unless, of course, there's proof he was a tranny)(Spoiler, he wasn't)

wat

Fincher is known precisely for CGIing the shit out of anything he works on.

yes

impossible to watch him as asexual or straight after seeing him like this
show is ruined

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>highly improbable subplot instead of using the IRL story of his wife hiring an assassin to kill him
Wish pedowood had good writers. Too busy making mary sue tier black characters to interview two serial killers because Holden suddenly losing all brain function and knowledge of his job

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Holden wouldn't have known he was wrong because he refused to look at other options despite other clues. Tench and Barney are willing to keep an open mind and look for other killers outside his profile but by the time they get enough clues to look for other killers and Holden is on board with it the shits shutdown.

I mean it's hinted early on with the black girl making a point to say some of the boys are prostitutes, it's stated by a cop that the KKK is likely killing a few boys just cause they could get away with it, there's the houses, boys knowing each other, etc. But Holden closes himself off to the idea of multiple killers early on and focuses on mind games through media that don't work.

I think the point is we'll never know who's responsible for the other killings. Could be pedoring for some and KKK for a couple but we'll never know cause all the FBI/Holden contributed was profiling on one killer and nothing else because that's all he felt mattered.

This. He is autistic about CGI, at some points you have to wonder why is he even doing some things with CGI.

They did the same thing with Chernobyl. Watching people jump through hoops in order justify it is pathetic.

They're fucking with the timeline hard if they're jumping to Ramirez. He started in 84, and I don't think the Feds got involved until 85. The Atlanta murders happened in '79-81.
But, considering how far off into the weeds the show is when you compare it to the actual people and events, they probably will move Ramirez earlier in the decade, because why the fuck not. It's TV.

I liked Wendy's romantic story line but I wonder if it added anything meaningful to the show. She went from dating the pedantic closeted lesbian mistress to a poor-ass single mom bartender who isn't even a real lesbian. So Wendy finds her real place in between all of that now? I really like her character.

Also season 1 was pure kino.

>Holden wouldn't have known he was wrong because he refused to look at other options despite other clues
Douglas talks about this in one of his books in regards to the World Trade Center bombing. They focused on some nobody security guard because they thought he had a hero complex and orchestrated the whole thing. Fit the evidence to the profile instead of the profile to the evidence.

Surely they won't be showing a 2 minute scene of BTK every episode for 5 seasons right

The subject still isn't online data collection. That IS a big deal, I've never said it wasn't. The fact of the matter is that DNA isn't telling anyone about your habits or political ideas(the stuff that's actually important), unless you're in the habit of leaving your DNA around at a lot of crime scenes. If the government spook agencies actively wanted your DNA they'd just get it at one of the hundreds of medical visits you make during your life time, and at that point they'd get stuff they could actually use to make some kooky DARPA-tier shit, rather than some saliva on a q-tip. If all they wanted was some saliva then they'd collect it the next time you threw away a soda can or a trashbag filled with hair and nail clippings.

>catching a rapist or killer
>misplaced sense of justice
You're fucked in the head. The family thing was just a joke about truckers being serial killers, you autist.

Or a time jump

In every dream home a heartache
And every step I take
Takes me further from heaven
Is there a heaven?

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Also I feel like Wendy needs a dark side. It's like she's too smart, too elegant, too collected on the show. Make her a full blown alcoholic, or angry, or spiteful, or egotistical. Just something dark, cause right now she's too idealized. Also Tench meltdown when?

Ressler is dead, he can't call bullshit on Douglas, like he did a couple of times when he was alive.

>who isn't even a real lesbian
None of them are.

Well he’ll go dormant for a while. They should’ve never shown his face to be honest.

>that feature on TGWTDT about getting the snow right in the background of a driving scene
no one would ever notice

Fincher is tasteful with CGI. The blue filter meme wouldn't cut it.

Did Douglas actually have any real input on the show's writing?

Time keeps on slippin slippin slippin
Into the futureeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Time keeps on slippin, slippin, slippin
Into the futureeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I want to fly like an eagle

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>"M-may I p-please have s-some coochie m-miss? Coochie please I've been so good"

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The season 2 music montage wasn't as good. I didn't recognize the song either.

There's no such thing as "a real lesbian". The amount of retarded sluts who "experiment with women" but go right back to sucking cock demonstrates that homosexuality is entirely a choice.

Oh ok it's just that you don't like. That's a different argument.

I like her ok. I don't really care about how much it changes of what actually happened cause every character does that. Holden is way worse than his real life person personality wise. Idgaf. I'm here for a cool story not a documentary. Most of my favorite historical fictions got nothing close to what really happened or how the people were. I don't get sperging out about that so long as the story is interesting. She's more interesting to the story as a cold hearted bitch representative of science directly involved in the FBI study than as some boring old psychology doctor they call on the phone. That's just an opinion but if you got issue with "reeeee forced representation in my historical story" take it up with tumblr.

Fincher CGIs shit to do things he can't do, like show an old skyline of a city or adding subtle blood splatter that couldn't be done right at the time of shooting, like in Zodiac, or adding a snowstorm for more ambiance because simply filming in Sweden wasn't enough to do TGWTDT. He doesn't just slap a shitty-looking blue filter on a scene because blue=cold.

M.E. by Gary Numan? You’re a pleb if you don’t know Numan

>obsessing over a char and actor’s sexuality
>”yeah i’m totally straight”

>Keep humming free like an eagle at work
>For a week straight
>Start getting paranoid that everyone hates me

Wendy at least feels like she has reasons to think she's a lesbian. She feels like a real character that doesn't know where to be

fucking hot tbqhf

I only know Cars. Always thought it was a dumb song.

Baboon
Slaying
Unit

You’re missing out pal

a jammer

kek

I am surprised that there is no "virgin Holden vs Bill "Special Agent Chad" Tench" memes yet

Dahmer's case echoes Gregg's thoughts on how killers operate within their own group. For Dahmer it was homosexuals.

Based

Lewis died without having found a wife and was a freemason. He was fucking gay, bro.

He looks like he's going to literally vomit

What was the point of the season 1's cat and lesbian lady? WTF was the point???

It was so good at first but they started overusing it. They only used it for particularly unsettling moments like Tench learning about his son's involvement in the murder, but later they use it for shit like Tench pulling up to his driveway. It's clearly intentional but it lost a lot of effect.

, WEST VIRGINIA
BLUE RIDGE MOUNTAINS, SHENANDOAH RIIIVEEEER.

This scene was so fucking weird. The filter to make it look like old march footage was just baffling. I wish Fincher directed all the episodes.

I can't find any links, even as a consultant. I've seen the term "loosely adapted" when the show is discussed. They changed the names and people around, probably to avoid lawsuits. I just consider the show an "alternate reality", like Hitler being shot in a theater in a Tarantino movie. Or the fuckery that is Braveheart. It's entertaining, but it's fictional.

>virgin Holden
The show literally showed him getting laid.

You're retarded, the Fincher directed episodes are kino as always. It starts falling off after the other guy takes over, but it's still pretty good.

Virgin vs chad is so 2018, now it's all about gigaposting and basedjak.

I just see her whole homosexual subplot in relation to serial killers who often is sexual deviants. How she has to cover it up, sometimes feel ashamed, "correct" her co-workers on homosexuality ect. The whole frustration of her situation which we see in a lot of serial killers.
>Wendy is used to dealing with psychos
No she isn't. They make a big point out of the fact that she is too theoretical, but has no actual experience with psychopaths. During her interviews she says herself that she either got manipulated or shut down the conversation completely. She was just better than the snitch who froze up, but that isn't saying much.

>"Look, changing from Behavioral Science Unit (BSU) to Baboon Slaying Unit (BSU) is going to help us prevent more murders but we need to keep in mind what we're up against. Black Americans are 13-14.9% of the population. Now, we know nearly all violence to include homicides are done by men. So cut that figure in half. Then, if we select for an age range that excludes infants and the very elderly, what that means is this: about 7% of the US population commits 50% of US homicides. We must come up with an answer to the following: How do we get ahead of baboonery if we don't know how baboons think?"

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>it's easier to go through every hospital's administrative and legal bureaucracy than it is to enlist a private company to collaborate with mutual access to data they are collecting constantly, campaigning ads for, digitizing reliably and receiving on EXPLICIT, CONTRACTUAL CONDITION of relinquished ownership
>DNA isn't included in the mass of data compiled into your individual dossier along with literally every other iota of personal data ever released into the internet, because...uh... well because it's only gathered by field agents and police footsoldiers just like in criminal investigations!
Hmm user, have you ever asked yourself how it's possible that targeted ads and algorithmic recommendations remain tailored specifically to you across platforms and devices? It's almost like there is a thing called a PROFILE. But yeah this definitely lies outside the capability of the surveillance state intelligence community's tech, which is why they build aggressive tools to aggregate and collect personal data and the two fastest growing fields in computer science right now are AI and big data. You fucking tool

nice attempt to slip out of being called out for saying some retarded shit about your family too.
>i-it was a joke you autist!!
sure

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>the snitch
It's amazing they kept him around after he sold them all out

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The guy who directed Assassination of Jesse James directed 2 episodes i think.

Oh yeah, forgot it was 3 guys. I remember thinking the Dominik ones were pretty good, and the Franklin ones were fine too except for the episode where he puts the crosses up. Really weird forced drama there.

>"We bring one onto the team. Good thinking, Holden. Call up that one from Atlanta."

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wait what???

based holden

I'm dying help ahahaha

Wendy has experience with psychopaths. Her whole last project was interviewing white collar psychopaths. She even mentions being in a prison before to interview them.

Usually it's a point that she has no sense of dealing with the serial killer psychopaths and that she's too rigid in them following the interview questions vs Holden's "I'm gonna follow my instincts fuck the rules".

>every hospital's administrative and legal bureaucracy
So you think the government spook agencies are interested in your DNA, but somehow a hospital's bureaucracy is going to protect you? You're fucking naive. Again, tell us how your DNA markers are going to be used by the government. Don't change the subject to digital data profiles again, actually stick with the DNA marker databases this time.

And how have you never heard of the common "truckers are serial killers" joke? Jeremy Clarkson did it on a BBC show for god's sake, that's how old and neutered it is.

Its setting her up for next season when she becomes a lesbian serial rapist. She holds women at gunpoint and forces them to spread their legs while she eats them out til they cum, then leaves. Its rumored she may force another woman to do ass to ass with her

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He'll do more eventually

Why did every white character in the show have blue eyes?

>"Is y'all muhfuckas finna intraview mah blackkass?!!!"

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Because the where real whites and not 56% ones!

Looking forward to the Connely cameo.

>Holden meets Manson
>within a month hes burning crosses, reading statistics and calling for a race war
How does he do it?

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He has charm

youtube.com/watch?v=2bnSUiF3yJs

then explain it. do it now.

>"Sheeiittt, we finna bout dab on a brotha? That's real cold."

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This show shits all over True Detective. BRAVO FINCHER BRAVO.

holdens a shit but his character has nothing to do except push the story forward to the interesting stuff instead of family or lesbian drama. That makes him best also you can like him even if he has a massive ego.

pray tell, what was this oh so subtle imagery supposed to suggest?

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It was the only PUSSAY she could get.

Targeted ads are driven by cookies. Keep thinking it's the same as a profile generated by the NSA or FBI.

True Detective pussed out and had a cowardly ending to season one. I expected some Epsteins, not a hillbilly in the woods. Even Mindhunter is better since it has some courage (no, morons the killer is ONE OF YOU!).

The white mans burden weighing heavily on a man.

It was overused and mixed too loudly. Good little leitmotif tho.

oh my gawd

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kek

So who's going to rope themselves off a door knob whilst puling the old fella into nylons, blasting this out.
youtube.com/watch?v=G56DaSAeZfM

red oni, blue oni?

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Fincher just thought it looked cool

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I used to be with you on that but the science keeps coming back in that homos have brains that wired differently. In all likelihood, it's actually bisexuals that are the ones making a conscious decision.

HOLY FUCKING KINO BRAVO VINCE
BRAVISSIMO

>Her whole last project was interviewing white collar psychopaths. She even mentions being in a prison before to interview them.
There is a big difference between white collar sociopaths and blue collar psychopaths. She didn't have access to actual psychopaths. She jumped on the FBI project since she could have a look at convicted psychopaths instead of the white collar sociopaths she theorized about. So no, I'll maintain that she has no experience. She admits it herself after interviewing Elmer.

Yep visit a trap thread.

are homosexuals unironically born that way or not? does anyone actually know yet?

>has RAD and selective mutism
>drives your family apart
>WILL blossom into a man you later have to hunt down
>WILL get blood on all your stuff
based

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Go to prison let us know bro.

No. Otherwise how do you account for homo serial killers and rapists? They wouldn't have been gay if they didnt get molested by their family member when they were young

I prayed my gay away. BASED CREATOR. He really is amongst us. Jesus waz a G.

Do you think homosexual animals are homosexual because someone fucked them in the ass while they were young?

This is what i was thinking

It’s superior to TD s2 and s3. Not s1. Bill & Holden are the spiritual successors to Rust & Marty.

>Tench: "Generations of violence and systemic racism!"
stopped watching right there.

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Current state of research supports that it's a bit of both. There isn't a single cause for homosexuality

S1 SWIRLY THING IN SKY CHTHULU LOVECRAFT FUCK OFF CUNT ENDING SHIT THE BED

>sicko murderer's background is literally you

I hate that I haven't achieved anything b-bros. I'm gonna be okay right?

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Most parents of gay kids say they knew from an early age. Homosexuality isn't exclusive to homo sapiens.
Both of these observations would indicate it's indeed natal.

Best part was
>black mayor
>black police dept
>all blackies
IT BE YT'S FAULT N SHEEEEEIT
just like Flint

Well Holden is the redpilled one!

She literally talks about interviewing white collar psychos but that they aren't as controlled for as psycho killers. She mentions having been to jail to interview some. Sure the serial killers are another league but you can't say she's got no experience with any psychos. As a psychologist she has to go out and study the real thing to come up with her novel ideas on psychopaths that's how that works. By the way she would talk in the first season it seemed that's what she was doing but with less psychos at her disposal to study.

She admits needing more experience with these kinda criminals but c'mon it is known she's the one with more experience with psychos in the beginning before they start the interviews because they go to her to even see if anyone else working in that area of study agrees with them. I remember them even saying she should do some at first but she says her presence as a woman would effect the results for these kinda sexually motivated killers.

Like no way could she be like the agents but she is literally their expert on psychos in the show.

>Holden starts running through the march
>scary violin music starts playing like he's in a horror movie
>film and color filter turns on and off
>hand held camera starts following him like it's a zombie flick
huh? what were they thinking with this shit?

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wait seriously? I haven't seen season 2 yet because SOMEBODY in my household keeps being TOO BUSY to watch it with me

You have to take into account that the 13% figure represents all black people in the US. Black males make up about 6% of that. Discounting kids between 0-12 years old you have the number down to like 4%. It's a really dire situation.

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Just don't kill/rape young boys!

This, it's not contrarian it's the sad truth
Cowardly ending

>“Although much research has examined the possible genetic, hormonal, developmental, social and cultural influences on sexual orientation, no findings have emerged that permit scientists to conclude that sexual orientation is determined by any particular factor or factors.”

Science genuinely doesn't fucking know.

>hospitals are going to protect me
>shit I never said
No you fucktard it's just easier and more expedient to secure the cooperation of private companies than it is to bankroll some ersatz legal procedure that would justify collecting it all from hospitals. There's this thing you may have heard of called medical confidentiality that companies like Google, Ancestry, 23&me, Instagram, etc don't engage in.
>n-no user you just didn't get the joke haha.. cuz, see, like my family has truckers in it, and truckers... are serial killers! isn't that funny? I'm gonna sell my genes to the state because my family are truckers. Lol!
>can't provide hypothetical scenarios for me to lambaste in which the government possessing databases full of personal genetic information would be bad for anyone? Looks like I win!
>more shit I never said
If petty advertisers possess the technology, it's far and beyond an established means. There are far more sophisticated and privileged means of getting relevant data than deferring to what advertisers collect, which is mostly aimed at audience retention and sales. I agree, your buying habits aren't of any particular importance to most 3 letter agencies.

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OK fine. God whatever, why are they so weird and cagey about it? It's just a question!! REEE

I swear the modern gays are LARPers: the queer, trans, non-binary, mogai, asexual crew. They're mostly straight people who have no personality.

>adult male
>lives with his parents
>never have a gf
>some acquaintances but no real close friends
>up at odd hours of the night
>main hobby is music but no real success at it
>thinks he's smarter than normalfags but an underachiever
I feel like this is 90% of this site

Well you can meme and you haven't raped and murdered multiple young kids so you got that going on for you

Who is your favorite serial killer?

Mine is Bundy, smart, handsome, pussy magnet.

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>waiting on the girl
fuck that bitch watch it yourself if you actually want to

Watching Frozen Ground to keep the KINO serial killer marathon going. Nicky baby chewiing scenes up I knew mah boy could do it again.

how else if fincher going to redpill everyone if he doesn't have a character they can relate to and be shown that he is wrong

???? wait what

You would Hope And Pray that's the case. Mentally ill fuckers litter this place. Desu.

Even 4% - 7% is an insanely low number, it's a fucking national emergency for this one super tiny demographic. And they have the gall to give women the stinkeye if they cross the street, give me a fucking break.

>OK fine. God whatever, why are they so weird and cagey about it? It's just a question!! REEE
what?

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Weird. Actual gay people should just say what they think caused it then.

Im not saying ALL you autistic fag.
Ottis Toole was getting pimped out by his dad at the age of 5. He then went on to say he knew he was gay at the age of 10.
There's no doubt if he didn't get assraped by his dad and his friends as a toddler he wouldnt have grown up to be a disgusting fag

Blacks are trying to alpha u limp wristed cold fish handshaking melts out of your apathy. RISE UP.

no, that's not the situation I'm in. but SOMEONE better HURRY UP

Its genetic it seems but how it's passed down has a few theories. One with some studies implies it's less a gay gene more a "want that dick" or "want that pussy" gene. Gay men tend to come from families of promiscuous women and lesbians tend to come from more masculine families with men that get a lot of women. Also tend to be the younger siblings with older siblings of the opposite sex, so gay boy with older sisters, gay girl with older brothers so could be an epigenetics thing too.

But not a lot of studies on this. I guess cause sexuality is kinda tricky to classify what with so many bisexuals.

In black families, lack of male leaders in the household leads to matriarchal figures that take on role of nurturer and enforcer— older women are inherently respected more for this reason

In latino cultures the mother is extremely sacred for various cultural reasons, so the grandmother by extension has even more reverence

>"I'll watch with you user"

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I enjoyed it because it focused more on Bill Tench instead of Holden. The only thing that was completely pointless filler was the whole shit with Carr and her gf, but season 1 had similar stretches desu.

This is the beiggest lowd off feeeezalogical booowshit ah eva hurd. Here the ball theres the hoop, lets play.

>*takes you to clown pound town*
Does that pussy honk if you fuck it?

>Someone took the time to make this

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>The scene when Holden joins the KKK and they dance around the burning crosses while singing ancient tribal songs

You can what you want about Raimi being a guest director, but he did a great job.

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>Comfy general ruined by fags and niggers.
This is the new normal now. World is fucked.

I'm loving Raimi Holden. That scene where he used a black child's arm as a toilet snake was brutal.

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not colonizing Tanja in your hotel room. truly a fagget of the highest order.

Based and redpilled.
It's crazy he hasn't gotten a kino adaptation yet. His whole case lends itself so hard to it.
>interesting psychology, pure evil
>mastermind type (kind of) criminal with excellent knowledge and planning
>could have copious amounts of creepy stalking scenes
>could literally use his creepy as fuck phonecalls to creep out the audience
>could have copious amount of high-tension scenes of him just barely getting away

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I made it while taking a crap

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/

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He lost interest after smelling her, in the car.
Redpilled him about black women.

>he trained a dog to rape the victims with him

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Based earboy

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we gotta get through the trial first for any kino.
anyone who hasn't yet read this article should.
latimes DOT c0m/projects/
man-in-the-window-joe-DeAngelo-golden-state-killer-serial/

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whaaa no he didn't???!!!

Dhamer wasn't molested and was a gay necrophiliac

Bundy was almost certainly molested and only killed young women

That fucking image is shooped right
LMAO

That was David Parker Ray.

why... is.... his.... head.... so.... massive
are aliens abducting it? is this a galaxy brained nigga in real life?

>that fucking fivehead
What the FUCK

ackshually Dahmer's dad said Jeff did get molested as boy by a man

His wife was fucking gorgeous.

EAR also did this iirc

I'm a gay. We do talk often with each other about why we think we're gay. There's no consensus. I will say a lot of gay men are actually bi but gay is just easier to say since women won't sleep with a bi man and I know a lot of lesbians that slept with men because they like a dude and guys are so easy to sleep with so they try to be straight but then they hate the sex so they stick with women. And a lot of bi women that prefer women but say lesbian cause if they said bi only men would hit on them.

Some say it's trauma, some just noticed attraction early but ignore it, a lot go through a phase of trying to be straight. That's why so many of us hate the whole "it's a choice" cause most gays tried to be straight really hard at first and couldn't. And if a lesbian were to say "well I slept with a couple dudes and hated it" some dudes gonna say that makes her not gay cause she slept with men she just needs a guy like him to fuck her.

But the general consensus is you know you're gay cause the sex is so good. Like idk the reason but the sex is some shit so good you know it's real. And most gays wonder if straight folks know their sex lives aren't as fun so we wonder why y'all put up with it. We figure it's for the family aspect which is fair. But I think it's just different strokes and all that.

LMAO I know right dis nigga's head is ENORMOUS
BURSTING with deviant thoughts
What is that an 8head? 9head?

Dahmer's dad is also king of cope and a habitual liar.

He's a beautiful lady

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Bonnie? Bonnie was never his wife, just ex fiancee. IDK about the woman he actually married, Sharon

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True

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>t. fagmount

why? his memoir was pretty unflattering of himself and seemed honest.

Whoops

I've never heard this, he brought his dog on a few attacks but it never fucked anyone.

>the absolute chad landed this
It's kind of funny how people used to theorize that he was some butthurt incel

noo you disinfo doofus, they were never married, just engaged

no homo but that actor has beautiful hands

Well i was molested by a 14 year old friend when i was 8, and now i am BI.
I only love women, but i get aroused by teen boys and Traps.

Most Gays where raped/abused as kids, Gayness comes from that.

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See here

what went wrong

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>admits to minor things to try and skirt bigger issues
>makes everything about himself somehow
He has every sign of a pathological liar.

Damn he looked good

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Are you on drugs. Looks sinister as fuck.

Ring a Ding Ding baby!

Honestly bros would you let her tie you up.

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I am the Gay user, and i know he looks scary but he is a literal 10/10.
He would get all the pretty twinks in the gay bars/clubs!

>We do talk often with each other about why we think we're gay. There's no consensus.
OK... I don't know what I was expecting but this seems odd to me. Whatever.

>But the general consensus is you know you're gay cause the sex is so good. Like idk the reason but the sex is some shit so good you know it's real. And most gays wonder if straight folks know their sex lives aren't as fun so we wonder why y'all put up with it. We figure it's for the family aspect which is fair. But I think it's just different strokes and all that.
Are you mentally retarded? Sex feels so good for me and I'm straight. Wtf wouldn't straight sex feel as bomb as gay sex? Honestly user the way you phrased this is just bizarre to me, do all gays think straights are pretending? You make it sound like a fetish or something. Just... wat.???
>wow kablowie the sex is better when I'm with partners I'm truly attracted to
>uhhh does this mean straight people have crappier sex lives?? don't they know gay sex feels better??
nigger what

fpbp, netflix shills trying to turn this into a general

EARONS never had a dog fuck anyone you dumbfucks that was Parker Ray

t.steve urcle

You lot actually covet aids. So can't say I'm not suprised.

Unironically, he lost his hair and his good looks started to evaporate. He got JUSTED so hard homicide was his coping mechanism

You don't understand how female attraction works do you?

He was just goofing around

Yep
See
And his pig fuck ugly daughter.

he literally looks evil but in a hot way

>NEW BREAD
>NEW BREAD

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Wrap your lips around a shotgun.

how does his daughter manage to look ugly as fuck in literally every photo/video? nowadays if she lost weight and didn't dress like a special ed class I guess she'd look at least neutral but goddamn

Tell me oh wise one, showed that pic to my misses. She said and I quote "Fucking creeping fuck spot"

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Faggots should be executed before they graduate to pedophilia.

she's lying m8

If only. She's mental in a good way proper venom in her sentence. But I love that about her.