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Let us discuss who they will have in S3

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Me.

monster of the Andes

I've gotten to the last episode, so I don't really know but presumably Dahmer?

reposting

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I doubt they'll cover him but man would it be awesome
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Why fagmount. He fuck normal ?

11th through 20th

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LArry Eyler
Lucas & Toole
Richard Ramirez

What the fuck was his problem?

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don't know, but season 2 was based. liked it more than season 1. don't get all the bitching about the Atlanta story. it was really well done.

Was Dahmer ever profiled?

thank fuck they got rid of Holden's gf, all their scenes did was drag on the plot until it stood still

that would be a huge time jump. they finished this season in the early 80's

lucas only victim was his mom

Yes, by the guy Tench is based on

drifter killers like o'toole were so scary. they always came from deranged childhoods and did some depraved shit. if you want someone else like him (who was caught in the 80's so could be featured as an interview) look up Gaskins. Similar guy to O'Toole

BUT BUT MUH NRA AND RACIST SEXIST AMERIKKKAN CULTURE

so did Wendy's this season. Wendys sublot was the only blemish.

this season was seriously one of the better things Netflix has ever put out imo.

That fucker was pure fucking evil scum PeeWee raid his book fucking turned my stomach.

Where's Harold Shipman?

Didn't he start killing in the late 70's tho?

Pic related, McCallany on Fincher. Netflix make all kinds of awful shit so Mindhunter will surely go the distance if Fincher wants it to. I just hope they up the pace of production. It can’t be 2+ years between each season.

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This was necessary. Thanks op.

In the top 20 list above, 6 of the serials are white men, 4 of which are Russian/Soviet

The other two is a white Canadian and a White American

There are two Americans total on the top 20, one is a white man and the other black

WE LOVE OUR DIVERSE SERIALS DON'T WE FOLKS?

his first murder was in '79 when he was a teenager. he was arrested in '91

read the fine print above the top ten, this top 20 does not include any medical serial killers, probably because their victim pool is more readily available and because medical serials kill in huge numbers that may be harder to verify

Dark and Mindhunter are actually kino

nobody should go to Colombia

Fred West.

Narcos as well, haven't seen Mexican series yet

Fincher is doing a netflix original movie with Gary Oldman so it's unlikely we get another season of Mindhunter in the next year.
That is unless he doesn't plan on directing any more episodes himself

Robert Christian Hansen
Alaskan wilderness kino.

I have two questions
(1) does Dr. Carr ever stop being a bitch to Holden?
(2) does Debbie show up in season 2?

>tfw The Monster of the Andes it's actually free

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Only watched season 1, got the impression Holden was gay for Ed. Did they fuck in the new season?

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BUILD
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>when the investigator and the giant serial killer have the best romantic chemistry in the entire show
uhhh OK

Did he do it?

I watched his interviews and he it's a fucking liar. He's arrogant as fuck, he's exactly like Ted Bundy but without being a chad. He believes his owns lies. I think that he do it. And you ask about how he kill all of those childs. Well, it's not difficult when nobody give a shit about these kids or their families and the police don't care. Just looks other cases likes Chikatilo or Garavito. It's not difficult if the conditions are aproppiate. Maybe another pedos help him or maybe his fathers burning the evidence. Also, the racial thing it's another card, this was a big problem in the investigation.

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holden isn't gay, he just has autism.

as far as character, and makeup, this show is arguably the best ive ever seen. all the actors look like the fucking killers, it's surreal.

Holden is autist, Bill's son has RAD for sure

he's only gay for Manson and Kemper is jealous

>Described by FBI Special Agent John E. Douglas as the most disturbing individual for whom he has ever created a criminal profile
Yeah i'm thinking he will DEFINITELY be feautred in the third season

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Is Holden a sociopath?

Not Toy Box Killer?

Imma chalk it up to the administrative incompetence of Hispanics. Their cops are just too dumb to catch anyone.

I live near the place where he murder-raped a literal baby.

Wendy isn't really a bitch to Holden. Debbie isn't so much as mentioned in S2

lol no, he just don't have sociable skills

Maybe the guards that released him killed him.

S2 is a Debbie free zone.

how tf do you manage to look gay just walking in handcuffs. I'm not even trying to be a dick but he LOOKS gay somehow

Thank fuck

WE ARE FREE FROM THE DEBBIE MENACE!

Yes. Everything he does in s1 is classic sociopathic behaviour. In the first episode of s2 is narcissism comes to the fore again when he feels the need to speak on the mic after Bill has paid tribute to their old boss.

don't celebrate just yet. Wendy begins a lesbian relationship and Tench's son was involved in baby's first murder

Haven’t you heard?! Latinos are white!

Did the showrunners forget that Holden was having major anxiety isssues in the first couple episodes? Feels like there was never any payoff.

1) Not really, but she gets her own pointless and long sub-plot.
2)Nope

yes

Yes but not all. This is the common consensus.

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that irked me too. it just never reappears and is hardly mentioned later in the series. almost like it never happened

>"WOULD YOU FUCKING BABOONS LISTEN TO THE PROFILE, PLEASE?! IT'S ONE OF YOU DIRTY COONS THAT'S KILLING YOUR 'CHILLUNS', YOU BRAINDEAD MONKEYS! TENCH, GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING LIGHTER!"

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the lack of any personal focus on holden in general is what made this season shit

>Manhunter (and the rest of the Will Graham movies)
>Criminal Minds
>Mindhunter
Name a irl person that’s directly inspired more fictional pop culture characters than John Douglas.

>Wendy begins a lesbian relationship
meh to Debbie tier
>Tench's son was involved in baby's first murder
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I hate the fucking pedo ring. Here in europe we discover something big years ago. The case it's so big and so fucked up.

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Hoping Wendy does some ASS 2 ASS.

BASED

How is Dark kino? I just can't get into the series

ehh he got over his nervous breakdown

Yes, I'm interested in Tench son subplot.

he actually looks a little bit mad here kek

Wealthy pedophile men literally rule the world
wew

He manned up and joined the Klan in Atlanta.

it's pretty far-fetched, didn't happen to Tench in reality (though there was a case that the plot is based on) and weakens Tench as a character. it's as pretty shitty sub plot

are you watching it in German with English subtitles? the english dub is beyond awful. however, if it's not for you then what can you do?

hey guys
MY name is Holden
I'm JUST like Holden Ford :)

Just an autismo without social skills.

ohhh so you're a robotic yet driven man who would get topped by big bois like Kemper or Tench?

maybe I'm overthinking this, but:
Ford = Holden Caulfield
Gunn = Judge Holden
Tench = William Holden
the three Holdens

let's be real you're probably more like that little worm Gregg

I cannot get enough of character's-dark-side-gets-unleashed-stories so I say pls make Brian Tench's babby killer plot happen

>While traveling around the country providing instruction to police, Douglas began interviewing serial killers and other violent sex offenders at various prisons. He interviewed some of the most notable violent criminals in recent history as part of the study, including David Berkowitz, Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Charles Manson, Lynette Fromme, Sara Jane Moore, Edmund Kemper, James Earl Ray, Sirhan Sirhan, Richard Speck, Donald Harvey, Gary Ridgway and Joseph Paul Franklin.
Yes yes, it seems that we will have Bundy.

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you're retarded and I want you to stop watching this show. that whole side plot is the most contrived shit

I didn't understand what Holden did wrong during the speech scene

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people in these threads keep saying that they want Zac Efron to reprise his role for Netflix but I don't see it. He wasn't terrible but he wasn't great either. let someone else take a stab at it

Who's the most fucked up of all?

You racist bastard.

the toast?
they just had to reinforce the retarded FBI professional standards theme from season 1
fuck boomers

Tench already made a speech and a good one at that. Holden's was not only an awkward speech but he didn't realize that the director (i forget his name) resented him for being such a difficult to work with prick

>TENCH, GIVE ME YOUR FUCKING LIGHTER!

Apex kek

>Zac Efron
Pls no. He's so fucking terrible. The cast was very well, I don't think and I hope that we won't have Zac for the role.

They assume he popped the benzos House MD style. There s a scene where he check the pills in his coat and sometimes he seems to get triggered.

It kind of makes sense. If you want Bundy to radiate pure evil, having a kike play him will do it.

Probably Ted Bundy?
>He sometimes revisited his secondary crime scenes, grooming and performing sexual acts with the decomposing corpses until putrefaction and destruction by wild animals made any further interactions impossible. He decapitated at least 12 victims and kept some of the severed heads as mementos in his apartment.

He was deeeep into that necrophilia shit

Career-wise I almost feel bad for Zac Efron. He seems to want to break away from his past and become more serious as an actor. Problem being that he's not that great an actor

how about that guy from It's Always Sunny?

Glenn Howerton? Might be too on the nose considering his Always Sunny character but I see your point. He was hilarious as the 'might be a psychopath' in the earlier parts of the show

I will only increase my desire to see this plot play out
>Tench teaches Brian The Code

Dennis, yes.

lol stop you're giving me flashbacks

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>be FBI agent in the late 70s
>genuinely want to help find serial killers
>go to Atlanta
>get rused into meeting victim’s mothers
>they are all finger snapping MMHMMMing negresses
>blame his race for everything, from cops not following through with promises, cops ignoring them, and the black mayor, the klan too
>agent still does his job
>goes to the negresses and say he has built a profile
>”NUH UH, AINT NO BROTHA KILLIN OUR YOUNG KINGS!”
>still do the job
>find the killer
>niggers today still blame whitey for the Atlanta killings
It’s all so tiresome

I'm convinced Holden joined the KKK after

*AHEM*

FUCK DEBBIE
FUCK PEDOS
AND FUCK NIGGERS

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God I wish I lived through the mid 20th century

So many rapists and killers got away scott free because of shit forensics and surveillance

Could've shagged anyone I wanted

He did. Didn't you see the Raimi deleted scene?

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Tell me about a time you were caught GOOFIN, Yea Forums

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>late soviet Russian serial killer
Sounds kino as fuck

10/10 ^^

>"Honey, lots of guys dress up like bitches and hang themselves while jerking it when their wives are grocery shopping! It's tradition!"

>Tench leads Brian through Bill's Code
PLEASE IT WOULD BE KINO

this white boy cute

Based

He has a cunt for a mother so his mommy issues are literally turning him into a serial killer.

Kek

This is me goofin

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Shoved a pencil up my ass when i was 10, mom came in the room.
Thought i was gay until she died.

more holden memes

what's the difference between this and trannies? plenty of trannies attack women and kill them too

more like before he was at the Tench's home he was in an orphanage for 13 months and before that probably in an abusive environment. dis little nigga has RAD.

>FUCK WYPIPO
>WYPIPO HELP
What did she mean by this?

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What was it that Holden said again the Raimi deleted scene where he was holding the cross?

Why did he go for the raggedy ann look and not something realistic? Lost all my respect for him after seeing these photos.

Because autogynephiliacs get off on being a caricature of women. And they're also just retarded.

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>BLACKS ARE INHERENT PEDOPHILES AND NEED TO DEALT WITH, IT'S IN MY PROFILE

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A guy can't dress up like a woman, bind himself and take some photos?! I thought this was America!

See

Based Raimi

I've never read that real BTK actually choked himself, only that he replicated the murder scenes for the sake of photos to fap to.

Did the scene with his wife discovering him even happen?

That Pakistan Judge knows justice. What a way fitting way to deal with that monster.

Doing it on an overnight Boy Scout camping trip not far from children though? Then murdering women? ruh roh

It's the Netflix Cinematic Universe so Zac Efron has to come back to reprise his role

Now I KNOW you niggas don't "curr" when you keep killin' each other. So imma b real witchu for a moment. *takes a knee* This nigga... he a faggot bruh. This cat fucks little keeds. Yeah, you probably thinkin' this some whyte ppl shit, but nah dawg. This jive moterfucker is a brutha.

Axe me how I know, go on axe me! We found this on a crime scene *pulls out a doo rag, unemployment benefits check and a half eaten rind of a watermelon*

not sure about the choking but his wife did walk in on him once cross dressing

>"C'mon, Holden. You can't seriously expect us to believe that 13 percent of the population is commiting 50 percent of the violent crime."

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yes

Unbelievably based. When did Holden learn ebonics?

I don't think they forgot. I think they are playing the long game on purpose. They're waiting for another crucial moment for it to happen again. Holden didn't really process the thing correctly, just went to back to work. At some point it will bite him in the ass. Again.

>released in 1998
>current whereabouts unknown

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So what you sayin is
>*molests children and pays them cash*
OK so lemme peep what you sayin is
>*doesn't listen to law enforcement*
hol on hol on so what you really sayin is
>*gets pisses at law enforcement that is actually trying to help*
That this foo' is a downlow brotha who wanna mess with keeds?

I Want to Shag This.

Are the first 2 safe? Why does rarbg only have the 14gb version why aren't people downloading higher quality

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This season really demonstrated the intelligence of the American negro.

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>"Actually Wendy, considering that black Americans constitute about 13 to 14.9% of the overall population then factor in for sex - male - and age, 15 - 50, the reality is that roughly 7% of the population commits 50% of all homicides."

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I live in Pittsburgh I saw them filming this shit all the time

LOL this is now a /pol/ thread. Guess the yanks are up.

>"Shit, Holden. Why are we even profiling serial killers? Shouldn't we be assembling teams to hunt niggers?"

some kind of institutionalized russian rape baby with attachment disorder

>"I think I'm convinced, Holden. We're renaming this department the Baboon Slaying Unit. "

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I was skeptical about them covering the atlanta child killer but I agree, it was actually really great and a case that isn't discussed often.

Wendy shouldn't even be in this show. Pandering bullshit.

How is Atlanta now. Is still as impoverished as it looked?

and that's the final truth! although he is a fucking liar, just like otis and henry.

Based

>find the killer

And that my friend, is exactly where you are wrong.

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Haven't heard about this one yet..

What a fun read this was
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Bittaker_and_Roy_Norris

>Bittaker informed Norris that he had told Hall he was going to kill her and challenged her to give him as many reasons as she could come up with as to why she should be allowed to live, before thrusting an ice pick through her ear into her brain. He then turned her body over and thrust the ice pick into her other ear, stomping on it until the handle broke.[24] Bittaker then strangled her before throwing her body off a cliff.

>"I heard you're building a team and you want my assistance. I refuse to work for free, I'll require egg salad sandwiches or pizza for compensation. BSU no longer stands for Behavioral Science Unit, I approve of this, Holden."

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don't bother, it's a slog

why does Wendy bust Holden's balls so often? Is she just trying to be a good guiderail or does she think he's a cocky prick?

just thinks he's a hotshot who's too impulsive and hotblooded

Disagree it's great tv. Also El Chapo is also a decent watch.

>"Kemper, if we get you out of here, you answer to us. There will be no more coed murders. And there will be no harvesting of white ripe cunts. Baboons only. I don't mean to insult you, but...are we clear?"

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An overweight, low-IQ, African-American single mother was giving a speech about the Atlanta child murders.

"Y'all be doin' nuttin' while our babies is bein' killed! Only a white man would go after black kids. Why ain't y'all finna arrestin' KKK members?"

At this moment, a brave, insightful FBI agent who had interviewed over a dozen serial killers (a new term for compulsive multiple murderers) and understood the necessity of building a complete psychological profile stood up and held out a photograph.

"Who is this picture of?"

The arrogant mother frowned quite primitively and angrily replied “Thass my young black son, who y'all still ain't done justice for.”

”Correct. And as I've discovered from my research, there kinds of murderers rarely choose victims outside of their socio-economic background. We're looking for a black man in his-.”

"Y'ALL RACCISS, WE WAN' YOU TO GET A WHITE BOY FOR THIS YOU USELESS MUTHAFUCKA"

The FBI agent was visibly shaken, and dropped his necktie and copy of Helter Skelter. He stormed out of the room while the single mothers cried those black crocodile tears. The same tears the cry for their "chilluns" (the very same children they let run around on the streets all day with no adult supervision besides the occasional pedophile) while they sit and home and collect welfare checks. There is no doubt that at this point our FBI agent, Holden Ford, wished he had stuck to interviewing Kemper and Manson instead of trying to help these ungrateful apes.

Later that day a black guy was arrested for the murders and the FBI agent took a victory lap. The black single mother died of diabetes from eating too much soul food and was tossed into the lake of fire for all eternity.

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he's always been a paper bag though

He said that to speck you moron. At least pretend to have a brain.

Based

From different victim:
>Norris then reached for the sledgehammer as Shirley Ledford—seeing him do this—screamed, "Oh no!" Norris then struck Ledford once upon the left elbow. In response, she informed Norris he had broken her elbow, before pleading, "Don't hit me again."[11]:262–263 In response, Norris again raised the sledgehammer as Ledford repeatedly screamed, "No!" Norris then proceeded to strike Ledford 25 consecutive times upon the same elbow with the sledgehammer, before asking her, "What are you sniveling about?" as Ledford continuously screamed and wept.

There's a fucking audio tape of this shit somewhere, jesus

It's part of his lingo. In season 1 when he was eating out Debbie, he was holding his nose and going "Damn! That is one ripe cunt."

It seems to me everything you know about serial killers has been gleaned from the ones who've been caught.

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Prefer taking their time than shitting out episodes quickly to meet a deadline

yeah I was going to say
I literally remember hearing the audio for this before
I can hear it vividly from the transcript

How the fuck do you survive an icepick through BOTH ears?

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I mean, this guy was a real jerk!

So did everyone in the 80s you zoomer cunt. We played out till nighttime. God u fuckers are thick.

It's crazy how racist the FBI is in this show. Holden sneaking Manson a lock pick in his sunglasses was a bit much.

>she lived through the ice pick stomping

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Based and /ourguy/

Yeah we played. We didn’t fucking sell our bodies for arcade money you dumb fuck.

why does she look like an angry burnt Mr. Peanut?

This season legit sucked nads

to each his own, michael pena was terrible in it.

wut did he mean by this

youtube.com/watch?v=ufZtjugoe14

Not BTK if they keep cock teasing this much.

Anyone got the S1 quote from Ed on anal?

Anyone paid attention to Tench's soundtrack when he would deal with his son's problem?

So creepy, felt like a sci-fi terror OST, I wish they would use it in other scenes
I can't find it on youtube

These kids were hanging around car parks all day selling crack.

You didn't have to daddy took care of you.

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They can't catch BTK for like 3 decades yet, genius.

The way his eyes widened behind his glasses as he said this was great.

They specifically showed that several of the victims had homes and that their mothers were home all day. There was no need for them to be making their kids sell air fresheners in parking lots with a child killer on the loose.

>Bittaker was sentenced to death for five murders on March 24, 1981, and is currently on death row at San Quentin State Prison.

Jesus fucking christ how is this even possible? On death row for over 30 years? What the fuck? He's still alive.

not even in gore videos do people sound like that, sheer agony and terror.

the reason the audio is odd/chopped is that full audio has never been publicly released. what you're hearing is snippets that could be heard through the courtroom's doors during the trial.

> Span of crimes January 15, 1974 – January 19, 1991
derp. Then have scenes with him?

>The FBI agent was visibly shaken, and dropped his necktie and copy of Helter Skelter.

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In the deleted version, he says "it seems to me everything you know about black people you've gleaned from the ones you've caught." Then they all burst into laughter and played air guitar for ten minutes.

That old director really annoyed me, he deserved to go for being so anti-progress.

Never been poor have you.

very kafkaesque

The music was really on point this season. The Opening music in the final episode was fucking wild. True Detective season 1 opening tier

>C A L I F O R N I A

They've had a BTK scene every episode.

go smoke your reefer you satanic hippy

>Jim I need your help translating these statements from the boy’s neighbours. What does “sheeit, whitey finna kill them chillins” mean?

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>tfw not courageous or intelligent enough to rape and kill dozens of women

Wish I was dead

I am becoming more autistic with every post. I wanted to say "why have scenes with him?"

>"Let's see here... OK, 'Shit, Caucasian people are going to kill those children.' Typical African American vernacular English as you can see."

>half the posts in here are racist drivel
You pol shitturds need to leave.

it wasn't nearly as bad the past few days. now that's it's a stupid fucking general they've come in droves

He's the ultimate serial they can't catch and it haunts Tench. Only because BTK was a stupid Boomer did he fuck up and get himself caught with the floppy disk fiasco.

This. I really wish /pol/ would stop living in my head rent-free. I just cannot stop thinking about /pol/ everywhere I go.

I also cannot help myself from commenting about /pol/. I am -- one could say -- obsessed.

When roughly 7% of the population commits half of the homicides there's a problem and it isn't racism.

Probably as a juxtaposition to all of the productive work Bill and Holden have done. They’re great at their jobs but if a killer is smart enough, there’s virtually no way to stop him. At least back then.

I'd rather have people meme about the niggers than constantly read whiny posts about how Netflix is forcing "duh diversity" and that's why the season sucks

Funny you hide behind fucking anonymity. If you were found out to be posting this shit, you’d be fired from your job and your life would be ruined.

Relax it’s just a few jokes. The season dealt heavily with race relations.

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Cute ^^

Because they're showing that not all of the serial killers get caught easily and quickly. BTK also goes against some of the things they've been developing in their profiles, which is partially why he managed to keep doing it for so long. BTK had a family, job, volunteered at church and shit.

cry harder you embarrassing pussy

Sounds like you’re on the wrong site friend.

He killed some of them but the rest were probably killed by a pedoring.

>all white main cast
>one character is a lesbian, one actor irl is homosexual, everyone else normal
>entire season devoted to BTFO out of sassy niggresses
is Fincher /ourguy/?

Kek

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yeah it is funny that blacks are protected from criticism by those in power

>NOOOO you can't have freedom of speech or anonymous imageboard websites!!!!!!

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So did BTK do the murder of the woman and son in season 1? Or is that a completely different state?

Imagine thinking it’s totally fine that whites are one word away from having their lives ruined.
This is why I say NIGGER as much as possible here

Best one yet.

Transcript is horrific
>tapatalk.com/groups/watchingrobertpickton88015/transcript-of-shirley-lynette-ledford-audio-record-t3312.html

what was up with that anyway? what was I supposed to take away other than the taste of bitter failure in Holden's mouth that he wouldn't be able to catch a killer?

nah, it was a drifter, case closed

The Baboon Slaying Unit will find you.

next Mindhunter general needs to be BSU: Baboon Slaying Unit edition

Appeals, appeals, appeals.
Even when someone pleads guilty they can stay on death row for years because of court shenanigans.

This. It's a lot easier to kill more victims when the local authorities aren't really competent. Otherwise burgerfats would be leading the list.

Bundy got fried quick in Florida

Supposedly next season Holden witnesses Dahmer drilling a hole in a black guy's head and just sits there eating popcorn.

Note the word "can".

>"Well Jeff you'll be instated as an honorary special agent."

How many active serial killers there are? How do they can do it in this day and age when there are surveillance cameras, smart phones, internet surveillance etc. everywhere.

Are you asking for a friend?

>Bittaker hasn’t paid a dime of rent since. We’ve been picking up his room and board for nearly 40 years. He’s outlived half the jurors, the judge, the lead detective on the case, an assistant prosecutor, and many others who were part of his trial.
>“I think they’re just going to let him die of old age,” says Stephen Kay, former Los Angeles County assistant district attorney who prosecuted the Bittaker case, and the Manson family.
>That’s the death penalty in California today for cold-blooded killers – old age.

Nuke Commiefornia

Fincher, you sick fuck! Recruiting demented sex killers to hunt minorities?!

I thought he made it 10 years or so.
McVey got the needle pretty quick.

Is also bet that the police forces in those countries pin unsolved murders on these mythical serial killers for convenience.

70s and 80s were peak serial killer years.
There's barely any left today. They either get caught faster, or just don't act upon their urges due to improved surveillance and communication.

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It's like if George Foreman grew out his hair and smiled. And somehow he's ten times more scary.

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>Supposedly next season Holden witnesses Dahmer drilling a hole in a black guy's head and just sits there eating popcorn.
Mega Kek

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There's something wrong with him that's for sure.
But people with ASPD generally lack empathy, and Holden clearly has a great deal of empathy, so probably not that.
It's more likely that he's just awkward, and if he does fit some diagnosis it's probably something more mundane like being on the spectrum.

Jordan Peterson for S3.

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We need to start making more meme, i will do some!
Be back soon

no, it's california
>The state carried out 709 executions from 1778 to the 1972 California Supreme Court decision in People v. Anderson that struck down the state capital punishment statute.[2][3] California voters reinstated the death penalty a few months later, with Proposition 17 legalizing the death penalty in the state constitution and ending the Anderson ruling. Since that ruling, there have been just 13 executions, yet hundreds of inmates have been sentenced. The last execution that took place in California was in 2006.
>As of March 2019, further executions are halted by an official moratorium ordered by Governor Gavin Newsom.[1]
everyone knows they'll eventually abolish it entirely

Are there any examples of true empathy throughout the series from Holden? He listens to those mothers because he’s interested in the cases.

How did he do all that by himself

He compartmentalizes lots of shit

He's crazy and has a camera on a tripod

This one of the reasons why the death sentence doesn't work, even when you catch real killers. Just make a new punishment for serial killers and the like. Solitary with zero human contact and stimulus, only fed nutritious gruel to keep them alive. Let their brains rot while spending the least amount of money on them. If they actively stop eating to try and kill themselves then force-feed them to keep the punishment going as long as possible. Serial killers will never be fit to walk the streets again, and so the only purpose a sentence can have is to keep them away from regular people and to punish them.

He can empathize with the killers because he puts himself in their shoes, it's weird, but I consider it empathy.
He also clearly feels bad when Bill tells him about what's happened with Brian.
I also think he felt genuinely bad about the mothers, even though he primarily cared about the case and proving the BSU is good at their thing.

Don't know why but i kek'd

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Fuckin dope. Bill is my favorite character. Is Tench’s IRL counterpart also the parent of an autist sociopath and married to a vindictive wife?

Say, isn't that akimov

It's this BTK or photos of his victims?

Irl his kids are normal, but his wife can be a real cranky Sue.

You're delusional, what gives you the right to make that assumption?

ha i thought the same thing when i watched Chernobyl. different actors though i think

HE'S A NIGGER! HE'S A NIGGER! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY IT? IT'S NOT HE FUCKING KLAN!

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That's the man himself enjoying some non regulation bungie jumping.

Bittaker:

>The FBI interviewed you twice to learn about serial killers. What was that experience like?
>Yeah, John Douglas [a now-retired FBI profiler]. He thought he was smart. He dressed down for me. He brought another FBI agent, Mary Ellen O’Toole. She was hot.

>What was your problem with Douglas?
>Well, the first thing I mentioned was that he dressed down. He wore denim and a jacket. This guy thinks he’s slick. He thought he could fit in with me. He thought calling a woman a bitch in front of me would get me to like him. He thought he could con me. I wasn’t saying anything. I can’t blame the guy for trying. He was playing little mind games. He used the term ‘bitches’. I don’t refer to females as ‘bitches’

kek Holden BTFO

that's btk himself, he enjoyed dressing in women's clothes and taking selfies

>immediately think you're asking just to know whether you can fap to it or not without being gay
This place really has ruined my trust in people's psyches.

man s2 was a letdown

Why wouldn't he talk though? It's not like he has anything to lose.

He's not. They decided to rename Douglas and Ressler to Holden Ford and Bill Tench because they wanted more leeway with the personal storylines of the characters. Most of the interview stuff is dramatized/maybe recontextualized to a degree but mostly authentic to what happened. The personal lives is where the show takes creative license.

>Mary Ellen O’Toole. She was hot.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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he's Dexter

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nothing to gain either

>So user, there's a couple of things in your file we're curious about. What is "cunny"?

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Then why agree to be interviewed?

get out of your cell. maybe some food courtesy of the FBI. all for the price of bullshitting with them for an hour or 2

Some killers get pleasures from telling someone about what they did, to brag. Some take greater comfort in fucking with the FBI man who tried to con him.

Cute and funny!

these types like to frustrate people and often try to get special privileges by appearing to play ball

Mexicans do that.

Sounds like Bittaker’s ego was bruised by Douglas’ clothes.

What a gentleman. Sure, he'll rape, torture, and murder girls, but he draws the line at calling them "bitches".

It feels like season one was act one an two, this season was act three, one and two.
Like they pushed last seasons conclusion to this season and this seasons conclusion to next.
I don't know, I feel vaguely unfufilled.

>the BTK killer was caught in 2005
What the fuck? That seems way too recent. That means when I first heard of him getting caught it had just recently happened, instead of being old news like I thought. The dude really got caught because he used a floppy disk in fucking 2005? I always put him getting caught in the late 80s or early 90s.

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w-why are posts getting deleted?

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What?! It's true. After being subjected to all that MMHMMMing by the glasses negress, Holden is woke to the 13=50 question.

nope, it was 2005. and that's why they keep putting his creepy ass in little cameos in this show, because he eluded capture for a long time

The jannies are serial killers.

user was an autist who had to delete and repost because he fucked up greentexting. Possible homosexual, must investigate further.

I was still being taught how to use floppy discs in school back in ~2004.

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Caucasian male, late 20s to early 40s, possibly autistic, no steady job, poor history with relationships, quite possibly overweight, lives with female family member.

The autistic newbie agent and boomer dad veteran agent duo is such a good dynamic
Great performances across the board too

>post serial killers

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No. He stopped killing for awhile. An excerpt from the book Mindhunter:
>"BTK was, and is a frustrating case. My partner and I surmise that he may be currently dead or incarcerated, as the killings seem to have stopped. If I had to guess, I'd say that he's a balding white male who has a fondness for trees in his face. He probably dresses up like a girl and masturbates, probably when his wife is about to come home. He's a true degenerate, much like those uppity negro women in Atlanta."
-John Douglas, the inspiration for Holden Ford

This is kinda bullshit because Pedrinho Matador (no. 6) isn't really a "serial" killer, he's just a psychopath who kills anyone who does anything towards him. He doesn't have a MO and shit, he's just really fucking angry.

How do we feel about Smith, should Barney have gotten the job instead? Does he like BDSM? Should he have pulled his dick out?

imagine being THIS FUCKING NEW

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He seemed to be genuinely sad when he learned the mothers wouldn't get any justice

>The autistic newbie agent and boomer dad veteran agent duo is such a good dynamic
That dynamic is what makes Mississippi Burning. Any more movies with that FBI dynamic? Especially if they're going rural.

So... who was him? Leigh Allen or Gaikowski? or maybe both? I think I will watch Zodiac again. Fucking Fincher, he's so good making crime kino.

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There was a distinct lack of scenes dedicated to just Bill and Holden together. They need to fix this in s3. It doesn’t matter how big the scope of the cases get, their relationship is the lifeblood of the show.

Cruz.

Donald Trump

But they did get justice.

Zodiac Killer is a mith, DO NOT talk about him never again, now go back shitposting on Yea Forums or else

They are a lot in 3rd world countries I'm sure. Probably a bunch in first world too that are just really smart and evade capture

>Investigation suspended, but we probably got him
I'm surprised they didn't break out the watermelon and chicken on the spot.

Who dresses up as a supervillain to attack couples and fathers and sons?!

He interviewed Ed Gein? some user in other post said it.

For true crime fans it’s great to have Fincher around. He’s got an obvious passion for it and has the talent and clout to get these movies and shows made.

CIA recruitment program

>check his wiki
>Pedro Rodrigues Filho (born July 17, 1954 in Santa Rita do Sapucaí, Minas Gerais), also known as Pedrinho Matador (Killer Petey), is a Brazilian serial killer who pursued and killed other criminals. His victims included 47 people who were murdered inside the very jails he was imprisoned in.
>He is currently free and regularly uploads videos to his youtube channel, Pedrinho Ex Matador & Pablo Silvia 2p.
Sounds pretty based to me.

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They did, but only after there were no white people in a three mile radius to blame for their own neglectful behavior and for Williams's crimes.

Charles Manson? Hitler? King Louis?

Robert Ressler the person Tench is based on, interviewed Bundy on multiple occasions without the assistance of Douglas.

Yeah man particularly the stuff about sucking his cock...all at 16, some people just pull the short straw I guess

what's wrong with you lad, why are you so angry?
maybe the one who don't want to be caught

explain pls

Yes, but the excerpt was about BTK. Here's a passage on Gein.
>"While technically not fitting our criteria for a sequential murderer, Ed Gein shared many traits with those who do, and in my opinion would have eventually claimed enough victims to qualify. That guy was fucking weird, I despise transvestites."

He was in some psychiatric half-way house and then let out on his own, wasn't he? So not guards, but I still think someone simply took him off the board because they knew he was getting too close to freedom. They're just too chill about the whole thing for it to not be a case of everyone knowing he's really dead but not being able to say anything without implicating their buddies.

No not really it was never confirmed all the killings were Wayne

The murders stopped after Williams was locked up. Atlantans don’t want to admit that he was the guy. The KKK would’ve desecrated the bodies in some way.

He was directly tied to two of them, and DNA would later tie him to like 8 others. Get your BLM ass the fuck out here, Wayne

Who was the user who killed a couple of girls and posted it in Yea Forums? Anyone remember this? any captures about these post?

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The KKK wouldn't have ran around strangling kids in the first place.

Nobody seems to be complaining about Holden's acting like in the first season. Guess it just took time to get used to the character.

It's the big lips and soft brow ridge.

Lmao I wasn't aware of his channel. But I've seen interviews with him and whenever he brings up a murder, there's always a clear pragmatic reason. He killed his dad because he beat him and his mother, he killed the dudes in his cell to prove he was bad, and so on.

New

They get pleasure out of trying to fuck with investigators. They will always bullshit. Some like to brag, others just get a sense of power from leading the interviewers by the nose. Very, VERY few of them are honest (Kemper).

>Five minutes into the interview, he began crying. Yes, he had raped the girls, but he didn’t murder them, he said. His partner had done that, not him.
>And then he smirked. It was the same smug look he had on his face sitting at the defense table doodling on a pad when Kay played the terror tape in court