Why is this Spidey version so forgettable?

Why is this Spidey version so forgettable?

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Spiderman, and all capeshit, is fucking forgettable
Fucking grow up

he was Chad instead of the nerdy incel that Peter was originally written as and therefore not relatable to the average spidey fan

cringey bullshit like "I've been bitten" and that fucking music video they threw in the middle of the movie. holy shit any section where the character talks to bug eyed girl is so horrible

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Not good like Toby's, not connected to the MCU like twinkbutt's

Soiboys hate this and tobey version of spiderman. The kid spiderman version of mcu is basically catered to soiboys. Tobey > Garfield > twink

Peter was never a nerdy incel and there's probably fifty people who've read and give a shit about 1960's Peter.

Garfield was better than both autismo Peter from the first movies and Iron Lad in the new ones.

>FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>FOR YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU

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>Not good like Toby's
Because when I think Spider-Man, I think a mush-mouthed forty year old man who can't decide between overacting and not acting at all

MCU Spiderman is catered to people who actually know Spiderman and like the comics. Raimi's is catered to dimwitted general audiences who know little to nothing about the character. The Garfield movies don't successfully cater to anyone.

I would describe it not as forgettable but memorably horrendous, especially the second one

Who raped you?

Because best version is tobey
Most recent is holland
With the next version of spidey everybody will forget holland too

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try to make a single argument without using any buzzwords, I'll wait

Sony shills arrived

>MCU Spiderman is catered to people who actually know Spiderman and like the comics.
You can keep saying that but that won't make it true.

>Raimi's is catered to dimwitted general audiences who know little to nothing about the character
knowing nothing about a children's comic book character doesn't make you dimwitted.

Yeah if there's one thing the MCU doesn't appeal to it's the dimwitted masses

non-argument discarded

I had an older cousin that looked like this and I had a lot of sexual thoughts about him but never actually did anything.

It's irrefutable, unless you think it's accurate to the comics to have Spider-Man be a middle aged man who is interested in a girl half his age.

>You're a big guy

>MCU Spiderman is catered to people who actually know Spiderman and like the comic
so fucking nerds then

And you're implying Raimi's films weren't catered to general audiences? You're a hypocrite either way you answer this question now, congrats

afaik the movie didn't really make any sense, there wasn't any consistancy to it at all. even worse for the second film.

also he was spider chad so a lot of
what he did just didnt make sense

good chemistry with stone though

but it isn't accurate for spider-man to be ironmans fucking bitch boy apprentice either
raimi and webb were way more faithful than mcu ever was

thanks ben sharipo u sure ar smart

LIKE CLOCKWORK, THE SOIBOYS ARRIVE TO DEFEND THEIR SUBERHEWO, HOPE SONY SHITS ON YOU DISNEYKEKS.

acting like you know the character when you know nothing about it does though.

Duh?

All Spidermen are Sony, oaf.

although it wasn't specifically Iron Man in the comics, it is absolutely accurate to have Spider-Man be young and trying to prove himself to the older, more seasoned heroes. You don't know anything about the character because you've never read a Spider-Man comic, so please stop acting like your opinion on the subject matters

you still have an allegiance to a corporate juggernaut so you're just the pot calling the kettle black at this point
>b-but I'm more m-m-masculine
right. which is why you are posting on this site

based poster btfo'ing soiboys

the character was literally invented by Marvel, what are you talking about?

>you still have an allegiance to a corporate juggernaut
wrong again little soiboy
>right. which is why you are posting on this site
see pic related

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stop using buzzwords and try your brain instead

>I support Sony but I'm totally not supporting a corporation
I have no idea how anyone can be as stupid as you are. I also guarantee I've been browsing this site longer than you have.

Amazing Spider-Man 2 had the best Spidey outfit of film. Shame it was a terrible movie.

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>outs himself as a weaboo faggot
well this discussion is over

yea but he doesn't fucking rely on ironman or any avenger for him to prove himself, he does it all himself
spidey has always been his own man, and even then he didn't even join the avengers at first
mcu has painted him as this fucking nu tony stark and its disgusting

Well we already confirmed you are.

>N-NO Y-YOU CAN'T TALK BAD ABOUT MY SUBERHEWO, MARLEL ARE T-THE B-BEST, F-FUCK S-SONY!!!

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>and even then he didn't even join the avengers at first
You mean how he didn't join the Avengers in the films until he'd already been around for three movies? Stop pretending you're a Spidey fan.

I'll never understand this opinion. The AMS2 outfit looked like cosplay

>it is absolutely accurate to have Spider-Man be young and trying to prove himself to the older, more seasoned heroes.
Wrong. Spider-Man tried to join the X-Men in his youth, but they didn't want him so he made them look stupid and left. Spider-Man tried to join the Fantastic Four too, but their building's security attacked him so he said "fuck off" and left. He never tried to prove anything to anyone. He was always a loner. Up until the 2000s when they ruined his character and made him an Avenger that no one on the team liked.

Seriously, see if you can go one post without resorting to non-arguments. You might surprise yourself.

The only way to do Spider-Man is Ultimate Spider-Man, and they fucked that by making him Iron Lad

cringe and bluepilled

>N-N-NO U
it's time to stop posting

>Western movies at height
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>Action movies at height
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>Fantasy movies at height
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You are a saphead.

For me it’s because he’s fucking ugly. I can’t bear his face, he’s not right at all for Peter Parker. Add all his other flaws to that and I don’t bother with his films at all.

This. Tobey is viewed through rose tinted glasses here.

His first appearance was fighting for the official non renegade Avengers, his first solo movie has him kept in line by Stark with the RESOLUTION of him learning to be his own hero - only for that to be immediately revoked in his next appearance in IW.

>repeatedly tries to join various other groups
>he was totally a loner tho
???

>The only way to do Spider-Man is Ultimate Spider-Man
Or how about just regular Spider-Man

>Seriously, see if you can go one post without resorting to non-arguments. You might surprise yourself.

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>only for that to be immediately revoked in his next appearance in IW.
I think stopping Vulture single-handedly and then saving Tony's ass from Thanos' largest henchman might have had something to do with it. What does it say about you that you can't even follow the plot of capeshit?

This.

you get an F. next time apply yourself

He was a loner because he works better that way. That's how Stan Lee published him. After Peter was rejected, he didnt bother trying to team up with anyone again until like 20 or 30 years later because Marvel ran out of ideas.

>Iron "uncle ben who?" Boy is catered to people who actually know Spiderman and like the comics

ok then

My post was calling you a hypocritical retard, but then you come in and try to tell me im a hypocrite because I have to follow your line of argumentation. I don't.

Time to stop posting.

They all look like cosplay.

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I'm probably going to be flayed alive for saying this but Stan Lee's actual comics weren't that great. I'd say he's more of a big picture guy, he's great at creating characters and introducing interesting dichotomies but it was always other more talented writers who took it and ran with it. Also, if you don't like the Marvel comics and think they've been out of ideas for decades, I'm not sure why you would even bother with the cinematic universe.

>might have had something to do with it.
To do with what? Needing to use Tony's technology like a crutch?

>you get an F. next time apply yourself

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>when I think Spider-Man
Who gives a shit?

>I think stopping Vulture single-handedly
Yes, that was the resolution I mentioned.
>saving Tony's ass from Thanos' largest henchman
This proves hes his own hero and in his own words "friendly neighborhood spiderman" how?

You wanted them to do the Uncle Ben death a THIRD FUCKING TIME? You are out of your mind. Audiences would just straight up leave the theater.

The MCU is oriented towards the nerdy comic book reading fanbase and has only connected with general audiences because nerd culture has been completely co-opted by pop culture in the past two decades. You're the only hypocritical retard here.

I didn't say that, you said that. The argument was that MCU spidey was closer to the comics which isn't the case with all the rampant tony stark fanfic added in

youre a manchild, grow up.
never mind, just kill yourself

you have an entire folder for this, don't you

>just take my argument at face value and don't think too hard about its implications
hmmmm must be a really good argument if it can be dismantled instantly as soon as you follow it to its obvious 2+2=4 conclusion

Tobey's Spider-Man wasn't middle aged. He was a senior in high school and then a college student. What the fuck are you on about?

>Stan Lee's actual comics weren't that great.
Your opinion of his comics is irrelevant

>I'd say he's more of a big picture guy,
His big picture was that Spider-Man is a loner, not Iron Jr.

>Also, if you don't like the Marvel comics and think they've been out of ideas for decades, I'm not sure why you would even bother with the cinematic universe.
MCU Phase 1 distilled some of the best parts of early Marvel comics. But MCU slowly lost the plot with Phase 2 and Phase 3 was just a fucking mess. Phase 4 is going to go full current year Marvel comics. Its gonna be a trainwreck.

Probably. That's the reason they skipped it, you're right, audience appeal. Not to get right into the meat of spider-man, just so people didn't get bored and Disney can tell whatever story tests well.

Played by a forty year old man, you fucking mongoloid. What kind of idiot watches the first Raimi film and finds those "high school students" remotely convincing?

>N-N-NO U
it's time to stop posting

>the opinion of the person I'm spending all this time arguing with doesn't matter to me
why are you doing it then
>His big picture was that Spider-Man is a loner, not Iron Jr.
Saying this over and over again does not make it correct.

It's like you've never watched a high school movie in your life.

That goes double for people that claim Peter has to be a high school student because comics

He hasn't been that in the comics for fucking decades

You don't have an argument since it relies on an assumption of an outline for the movie I didn't make. The point was that the tony stark masturbatory moments in MCU spidey films aren't comic-accurate, and that's all there is to it. Feel free to seethe about it any way you see fit.

>never a nerdy incel
Read the ditko run

I very clearly and plainly explained the logical fallacies of your statements. If you're going to do the whole "I'm super clever because I said what you said back at you" thing, you do at least need to ensure that it makes sense before you go ahead and do it.

Tobey wasn't 40 when the movies came out and it's not the first time that someone in his 20s is playing a high school kid. Unfortunately this shit happens in almost every movie because most high school aged actors can't act for shit.

>MCU Spiderman is catered to people who actually know Spiderman and like the comics.
I don't think a 15 years old Mr. Stark Jr. with some negress as a lover, no Harry, no Uncle Ben and an aunt May that looks like a MILF model with incestous theme really represents Peter Parker from the comics or anything I've seen before those movies.

Actually, if we have to be really honest here, the MCU version of Peter Parker is by far and large the most disconnected from the source material. Even the Garfield one is more faithful.

I watched the new movies which feature age appropriate actors.

It's completely accurate for him to be trying to earn the respect and acceptance of more seasoned heroes as I already said. Stop acting like you know anything about the character.

So have him be older and not a high school student. The Raimi films claimed he was in high school and then hired an old man to play him.

>I DON'T LIKE BLACK PEOPLE REEEEEEE
great, that has nothing to do with whether the character is accurate to the comics or not in the ways that actually matter

I think we've already determined both versions are designed for general audiences. I feel like my point is made.

I don't know who you said that to, but it wasn't to me, you do know this is an anonymous website, right, reddit? And cope with it how you will, his actions in regards to character relations might seem surface-level accurate but the way the events play out for MCU spidey are not, and no amount of bickering from you changes that.

but Tobey can't act for shit either

>It's completely accurate for him to be trying to earn the respect and acceptance of more seasoned heroes as I already said
Nah, he isn't. Spider-Man has always been a loner and an outcast and he himself prefers it that way. He refused to team up with the Avengers and the other bullshit groups. He only did it on very rare and special occasions. The whole "Mr. Stark, Mr. Stark, help me with my diapers" is no way accurate to what Spider-Man is. Comic Peter Parker will just quip the fuck out of that B-list hero.

He was in high school only for a brief period in the first movie, moron. He was a college kid. Same way he was in most of the comic adaptations on him. Him being a fucking teenager like in the MCU is totally out of character.

I didn't realize Peter was supposed to have repeated multiple grades.

Meant for

bickering =/= pointing out the obvious holes in your arguments, newfriend

Agreed. Raimi already did ‘comics accurate’ about as well as it could be done, so marvel had no choice but to go weird with mcu spider-man. The PR blitz of ‘most accurate in tone’ keeps getting thrown around though by people that havent seem raimi’s movies but need an opinion

That "MJ" cunt is the least of Nu-Man's problems. But she is one of the long list of problems with the MCU Peter Parker.

Not if you acknowledge reality. Have a nice day.

Reading is for nerds.

Why the fuck does anyone give a shit about what's more accurate or how old spiderman is? The Raimi movies are better, Who gives a shit about any of this autistic anal retentive garbage?

>suit looks like shit
>shit villains
>gwen instead of MJ
>the bad kind of superhero drama

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>Saying this over and over again does not make it correct.
You're saying MCU Peter wasn't Iron Jr?

>pointing out the obvious holes in your arguments

You did no such thing, you assumed something about how I think MCU spidey films would play out and attacked a strawman you created based on that.

Only if you're an alt-right snowflake who lets his political opinions dictate how he processes everything he sees

Real talk: Sony should base new Spidey movies on the recent PS4 version and ditch all the old ones.

Why are you such a butthurt nigger? I only said she is a negress (which she is), I didn't mention anything political. Fact of the matter is that the MCU is no way faithful to the source material like so many retards here employed by the Disney PR machine try to claim.

Your argument was that without the Uncle Ben death, it's not legit Spidey. It is by no means a strawman to argue why having the Uncle Ben death a third time - which is what you are arguing for whether you like it or not - would be a very bad idea.

electro was a nerdy balding nigger that lives on the internet and obsesses about things like spiderman, and gets unreasonable mad about his obsessions. its almost like the character was modeled after niggers IRL

>still posts on Yea Forums
Lol

not the guy you are arguing with but no one other than a /pol/fag would use the word negress non-sarcastically

>It is by no means a strawman to argue why having the Uncle Ben death a third time
This is the dumbest argument MCU fags always bring up. No, it wouldn't be a "dumb idea". Uncle Ben is an absolutely integral character and plot point for Spider-Man, he is the reason Spider-Man exists. To replace him with "Mr. Stark" is an utter disgrace to the character and everything he stands for.

It's like adapting the Batman story and removing his parents from the plot. How does that work?

You're right lemme make a modification: Sam Raimi had much more of an individual artistic vision he was interested in telling than MCU spidey. It's unfair to compare the two in terms of their interest in appealing to drooling retards.

Amazing > Riami Spider-Man

He absolutely is even if the retards employed by the Sony PR machine are trying to spin it otherwise.

Garfield has no presence and comes off like a whiney bitch

>He absolutely is
how? Give me some examples.
>Sony PR
literally the "no, u" argument. Very low tier. The Disney jews must be paying you guys very few shekels for your work.

>Your argument was that without the Uncle Ben death, it's not legit Spidey.

It wasn't, it was that the tony stark worship from spidey is not comic-accurate. the "uncle bend who?" thing was banter at how much pete holds tony as a father figure over the classic depiction of Uncle Ben.

>which is what you are arguing for whether you like it or not

Again, a strawman you made. There are other ways to go about it then showing Uncle Ben dying in an extended sequence.

Great analogy. It is exactly like that because Zack "Hack" Snyder including the death of Wayne's parents in BvS even though we've already seen it on film three or four times was one of the many complete missteps made by his aborted cinematic universe. You can get to the core of the character without literally repeating the beats verbatim just like you can get the character totally wrong while repeating the beats verbatim while at the same time not understanding what they are there for, see for reference the Raimi movies.

You don't have to SHOW Uncle Ben's death, but it still needs to exist as part of Peter's past. His lesson in responsibility is the most important aspect of his character. Literally and figuratively.

Just pointing out how effortless and without substance it is to make the argument you are making, especially since you are arguing in favor of another slightly different flavor of corporate product.

>not the guy you are arguing with
Lol sure user.

Shut up nerd.

>There are other ways to go about it then showing Uncle Ben dying in an extended sequence.
That is what they literally did. How are you this stupid?

That is literally what they did. He gives a whole speech in Civil War that perfectly encapsulates it while at the same time not mentioning Ben directly once.

>You can get to the core of the character without literally repeating the beats verbatim just like you can get the character totally wrong while repeating the beats verbatim while at the same time not understanding what they are there for, see for reference the Raimi movies.
And what's the core of the MCU character since I have a hard time understanding it? He does a lot of quips and likes to suck Mr. Stark's dick? What else? Besides as this user said you do not need to show Uncle Ben's death, but to remove him from the story is ridiculously dumb decision. Furthermore, I haven't watched the DC movies and I don't understand the deal with them, but I doubt they are worse than the MCU shit.
But you've literally not made any sort of argument. The only argument you've made is that MCU Peter is faithful to the source material and when I asked you why, you were unable to answer.

>the Raimi films had an artistic vision
Raimi fags are so fucking embarrassing

They didn't, Uncle Ben's death is essentially a footnote in the MCU in regards to Peter's development. Remember, my argument was never that this is a bad thing, it's that it isn't comic-accurate. Follow along.

I already did in the thread. Read it.

Imagine reading a comic book. Literal picture book for grown men with muscular chads doing BING, BANG, WAHOO on “bad guys”

Name anything more soi

Because it was unnecessary, just like the new version.

You are absolutely arguing it's a bad thing. If you're going to be flagrantly dishonest I'm not sure what little point to this to this.

>I already did in the thread
Where? How long do you plan to keep beating around the bush?

>You are absolutely arguing it's a bad thing.

Show me in this reply chain where I said this or made this apparent.

Henry Cavil should be Spider-Man

Capeshit in general is forgettable af. And for a few very good reasons. Name the top 10 capeshit movies in the last 10 years and literally nobody talks about more than half of them.