Now that the dust has settled. What went wrong?
Now that the dust has settled. What went wrong?
Ian Barnes
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Luis Wright
pfeiffer’s suit wasn’t tight enough
Lucas Howard
Tim Burton
Dominic Scott
Nothing.
It’s still the best Batman movie by far.
William Martinez
Unironically the best Bat film so far
Wyatt Ross
Cool style but a weak script. It was also too dark for the studios.
Angel Sanders
I wish we had gotten the sequel to this as well as Superman Lives with Nick Cage.
Dylan Howard
Nothing, it's a great film and one of the best capeshit films ever.
The problem was the studio (and by extension, the public) were expecting something like Batman '89, less dark and more kid-friendly. They didn't get that and so people hated it.
Wyatt Williams
cringewoman and cringeguin
at least the first one has the joker and the batwing
Mason Fisher
Different drafts had this character straight up be Harvey Dent. They could avoid the weird legal/contract trouble with Billy Dee Williams by making a new character. This ends up an issue in Batman Forever. It still managed to balance its characters well. Batman, Catwoman, Penguin all got good screen time.
Really, it's a pretty dang good movie, which is only ruined by trying to follow it up.
Landon Perez
Ryan Cooper
The tone is all over the place. It goes from adult humour and grittiness to campy many times. Batman is also barely in the movie at all and the plot is a bit weak in spots
Josiah Morales
It was shit, but nowhere near as shit as pic related
Camden Martin
The catsuit was so tight on Michelle Pfeiffer that she often had trouble hearing her own voice. Tim Burton had to tell her to lower her voice register, because she would often shout her dialogue instead of just saying it.
Julian Jackson
This. Not enough Batman
Aiden Kelly
as i said, not tight enough
Lucas Cook
>Forgot to green text.
As an act of contrition, have another Michelle.
Anthony Reyes
Literally nothing
Landon Sanders
>”dust has settled” = 27 years
It was concluded this movie was average when it was released? A movie for those of us kids born in the mid-late 80s to rent at the video store. Entertaining as a kid but unwatchable as an adult
Camden Fisher
So what if she farted in it?
Nicholas Torres
gib psycho gf.
Jason Gray
Burton didn’t want to do a sequel but ‘’89’ was such a hit the WB gave him complete control. So he made it a Burton movie.
It’s not bad it’s just not a Batman movie. Turning The Penguin into a Burton circus freak and giving Catwoman cat powers.
My biggest gripe with the movie is how wasted Keaton was. He is by far my favorite Batman but always got pushed to a side character over the villains
Nolan Harris
Audiences at the time weren't ready for the best Batman film.
Hunter Campbell
The real question: catwoman or tied up ice princess qt?
Colton Flores
I can see that to a certain extent. Like when Bruce scratched the CD like a record.
>Dat snarl.
Carter Ward
that comfy christmas atmosphere
that black shiny ass
more like what went right
Samuel Wood
I use to play the NES game all the time when it came out.
Christopher Jones
This shit was the best
David Brooks
Nothing. It's the best solo Batman movie.
Hunter Thompson
It was attacked by (((critics))) because it was secretly anti-semitic
>German artistic influences
>Child in a basket thrown in a river like Moses
>Child returns 33 years later (age of Christ at death)
>He grows up to be a hook nosed, fat, pale, bald guy wearing a fur coat and hates successful whites
>Long nosed villain tries to seize political control
>Long nosed villain wants to kill children
>Jew inspired villain is kicked out of his home city once his true ways are discovered
>Score based on Nazi music from Richard Wager
>Architecture based on "fascist architecture"
Even liberals said it was:
>In their article, the two Ivy League Jews charged that Batman Returns was anti-Semitic. The Penguin, they averred, “is not just a deformed man, half human, half-Arctic-beast. He is a Jew, down to his hooked nose, pale face and lust for herring.”
>Using “images and cultural stereotypes,” director Tim Burton “depicts the Penguin as one of the oldest cultural clichés: the Jew who is bitter, bent over and out for revenge, the Jew who is unathletic and seemingly unthreatening but who, in fact, wants to murder every firstborn child of the gentile community.”
>The message from Batman Returns is that all our ills arise from the work of some small but evil bunch of rich and powerful people who are different from us—not quite human, beasts, vermin—and are therefore after blood, wanting to kill our children and our God and the Christmas holiday
Wyatt Turner
wtf i love Tim Burton now
Liam Hall
the tomato soup was cold
Juan Hernandez
not a damn thing. best live action batman movie ever made
Justin Harris
I'd be curious to see how that would've turned out with Harvey Dent (Billy Dee Williams) in the role of Max Schrek
Then to see him play Two Face in a Burton 3rd film