Watching Mindhunter has got me wondering what happened to larger-than-life serial killers. Thoughts?

Weird millennials and zoomers aren't repressed and isolated, they find other freaks that agree with them on the internet easily and share common delusions, serial killers had years of faking normalcy, crystallizing their weird tendencies into genuinely bizarre behavior.

Nowadays if you're antisocial you just get into lookism and snap before you hit your 30s, no one has the intestinal fortitude to work dead end minimum wage jobs, lead the cub scouts, etc, like these guys.

Serial killers are still a thing. For example, there is the Long Island killer who specializes in murdering whores, so far has ten confirmed kills and six possible more, and he is still at large and active.

Everyone is walking around with a gps tracked camera that can call for help in their pocket

Stapler

Less lead paint and abusive ex-military parents

The Anchorage Murderer had potential, too bad the cops caught him so soon.

This is what I was thinking. Nearly All serial killers lived double lives because they had a reputation to uphold in the community, but now no one cares about that because they think their life is already over.

OK idiot, here's how it works.
Real life serial killers. The real ones, alive, now, today.
They don't brag about what they do. They cover up their tracks. And they target homeless near BLM land and know where to dispose of corpses where living people haven't visited in 20 years.
CUrious where they are? Check along I-5 between California and Washington. Lots of BLM land to dump corpses.
Lost of homeless.
Lots of illegals.
Lots of people to take care of that sinister urge.
Why do you think there's such a large FBI presence on I-5? Just the drugs?
Nigga please.

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There's theories in any large city that serial killers get their kicks by targeting homeless etc, people they know aren't going to be missed, they still get off by killing but not the same spectacle as all those in the latter half of the century.

Hell the most recent one was that gardener in Canada who targeted gay men (mostly new immigrants) killed them, shredded their bodies and used them in his fertilizer while he did his lawncare work

They probably kill hookers and homeless people, FBI probably told them to stop covering them.

With increase in credit cards, cell phones, post-9/11 security, etc it's harder to hide

He didn't "shred" them, he just chopped them up. They found full on arms and shit.

He shredded some of them. Plenty of lots were torn up when bone fragments where found in the soil

This. Disgruntled people with something to say don't kill the odd woman or girl here and there. They buy a gun from Walmart and shoot up a school or a church.

Arguably modern day serial killers are devout true crime fans, do their homework, and kill without leaving any evidence or trace of their pathology so that local law enforcement doesn't realize a serial killer is active, just random unconnected killings over random spans of time

serial killers are cringe desu

But that takes all the fun out of being a serial killer if you don't leave a clue behind that the same person is responsible for all the murders and cause the public to panic.

Not all serial killers want notoriety

some just want to kill people because it feels good

>cause the public to panic
Nigger that's not a serial killer - that's a terrorist!
FBI, get em boys!

For every killer they catch there are dozens they don't catch. You wanna know where they went? Google how many unsolved murders are in your city.

youtu.be/P2jtu3hDhMU

and he is probably a 50yo boomer

came here to say this. theres like a less than 20% clearance rate on murders. You only hear about the ones they catch.

Most serial killers these days either stick to murdering hookers or are rich enough to buy their bodies. If you wanna be larger than life, shoot up a school

Most serial killers don't have riddler syndrome.

They don't scare people enough anymore (aka less ability to take away rights from law abiding citizens in the guise of ""safety"") so they moved onto making mass shooters/terrorists the meme.

Kemper alludes to this fact in the latest season

What was his motive? He just seemed to shoot random people in parks and on bike trails.

Not even close.

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>Between 2010 and 2017, a series of men disappeared in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. In the early part of the decade, the Toronto Police Service (TPS) had created Project Houston, a divisional task force which linked the disappearance of three men of South Asian or Middle Eastern origin to Church and Wellesley, Toronto's gay village. The investigation was unable to determine if the disappearances were related or if a crime had been committed. In mid-2017, amid public speculation of a serial killer in Church and Wellesley, evidence was gained from another missing-persons investigation which led TPS to create a second divisional task force, Project Prism. In January 2018, Project Prism investigators obtained evidence connecting two disappearances to Bruce McArthur, a 66-year-old self-employed landscaper, whom they arrested on January 18, 2018.

>Police say that they found evidence in McArthur's apartment leading to homicide charges and that they found the dismembered remains of several men in planter boxes at a residence where McArthur stored landscaping equipment. McArthur and many of his alleged victims were active on online dating apps for men who have sex with men, where McArthur stated that he wanted to meet submissive men. By April 18, McArthur had been charged with eight counts of first-degree murder in the deaths of missing men, most of whom had been linked to Church and Wellesley.

>The criminal investigation of McArthur has been described as unprecedented, involving numerous possible crime scenes, identification of skeletal remains, judicial authorizations for data hosted on foreign servers and examination of cold cases dating back to the mid-1970s. It became the largest investigation conducted by the TPS and also called on the resources of the Ontario Provincial Police (OPP), Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and other police and forensic services.

DC Sniper attacks has to be the most recent in collective memory?

serial killers were cia psyop to control the people.

now it's mass shooters.

Lead removal from gasoline.

Firstly, these figures are really debatable. Secondly, clearance is a misleading term here:
>Within the U.S. criminal justice system, criminal cases can be cleared (or closed) one of two ways. The first is through arrest, which means thatat least one person has either been arrested, charged with an offense, or turned over to the court for prosecution. The second way a case can be closed is through what is called exceptional means, where law enforcement must have either identified the offender, gathered enough evidence to arrest, charge, and prosecute someone, identified the offender’s exact location, or come up against a circumstance outside the control of law enforcement that keeps them fromarresting and prosecuting the offender.
Prosecutiom rates for homicide cases would be a much more applicable figure here. Thirdly, what I said is not disproven by this image. Every homicide is not conducted by a serial killer. In fact the vast majority are not.

This, killers like Charles Manson, Ted Bundy, and OJ Simpson were mass media theater the glow in the darks used to fuck with American's minds. We can only speculate as to why they do it, but it probably boils down to divide and conquer, bread and circuses, etc.

People are way more suspicious now too thanks to a general breakdown of social trust in society over the past 40 years. How many people do you know who don't lock their doors/windows at night vs how many would've in the 70s or 80s.

Crime has gone down since then but so has overall trust.

the people that murder prostitutes and the homeless can be a group of men all framing a fictional serial killer

>Media stopped covering them
Now they have tv shows, movies, documentaries and books made about them.

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Isn't it funny literally everything dropped in quality since the turn of the century? Even our murderers suck ass now. Only the Golden State Killer carries on the true serial killer tradition these days.

I agree with this. My mom was telling me how in the 70's/80's, she would be walking down the street with her friends and random dudes would drive up and ask if they wanted to go to a party. And that wasn't even weird, people did it all the time.

Can you imagine if someone did that now? It would only work if you were uber rich and even then it's up in the air.

Oh wait never mind I forgot they finally caught him last year.

they are based if you ask me

Feel free to post other sources with different figures. Seems like the two posts I replied to just took a shot in the dark without any research and were wrong.

What's the best way to kill someone and get away with it nowadays?
I'm thinking you'll have to at the very least
>drive across the country
>kill a hobo
>tell no one
>pay for everything in cash
>do it in an area with minimal cctv

What's your plan?

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–2017_Toronto_serial_homicides

Pretty fun killer in Toronto fairly recently.
They're still around.

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I'm pretty sure I could kill at least 20 people in one week and not get caught. I live in a third world shithole though.

Did you hear about that story of the fitness guru who shadowed as a killer for the mob? Cops caught him because the GPS in his smart watch matched the time and place with several murders

>Kill myself
>There is no step 2, I'm dead.

The real question is how to kill yourself and get away with it.

Well first I would target those in low socioeconomic...hey waita minute Mr fbi

law enforcement have it rigged so reporting on anything that is an active investigation is a federal offense and obstruction of justice. So if the media receives anything from a guy trying to be the next big serial killer, they forward it directly to law enforcement and pretend they never received it.

So they're still around, but they can't get any attention.

Police have dubbed him The Jokeman

>theres like a less than 20% clearance rate on murders.

go look up how many people go MISSING each year

>What's your plan?
Well first I'm gong to

hey wait a minute

They just need your car footprints and any ccv camera on a road close to where the person went missing to be in your ass, you really need to do it in desolated places or be very lucky

Not have a motive, operate alone, and don't move the body. How would they be able to catch a stranger that drives by and blasts you from a distance?

they caught the DC Snipers

I was thinking about the DC sniper. He was successful for a while. Don't remember how he got caught though

Person of Interest is real. After 9/11 The Machine was created to counter terrorism and as a by product it detects most serial killers early on

Fuck. Imagine what those diaper forum guys would be doing if the internet didnt exist.

They are mostly mass shooters now. Takes less time to get that high body count and you still make the news

>10-16 prostitute deaths
>over a timespan of 17 fucking years
>no activity in 6-9 years
It's fucking nothing. A single MS-13 in long island probably has triple the kill count

>age of pray and spray
kek

What was the horror before serial killers? Women voting?

you can find 90% of runaways at the LA bus terminal. they're usually underage and willing to do anything to make it in hollywood.

That is some blood god aztec shit. Goddamn.

its more like the media can only report on mass shootings because of how huge the event is. they can't report on serial killers because by the time the investigation is closed, reporting that some dude killed 40 people over the last 10-20 years and is only getting charged with 3 would be a totally nothing story.

fuck for some reason this is making me imagine like an avengers style crossover featuring all the various mass murderers over the years

all of that seems connected to broader societal problems.
how anti-social is the average person nowadays compared to even 20 years ago?
how bad at socializing is everyone?
i'm pretty fucking reclusive but most interactions i have with people my age group seem radically different from how people interacted with each other 20+ years ago.
i've only been in uni 2 years but literally half of my semesters no one fucking talks at all, or tries to be social.
it's so eerie.

they're talking; just not talking to you

dumbass zoomers would probably instagram the crime scene and what they ate after!

>People are way more suspicious now too thanks to a general breakdown of social trust in society over the past 40 years
and that's mostly because of white people. almost every serial killer, serial rapist, mass shooter, and modern day terrorist is white. and they are the ones who try to convince us that we should be scared of normal people (non-whites). but nowadays we know better - when you see a white person walking on the side walk, you clutch your wallet with one hand and cellphone with the other and cross the street.

Boo, get some new material

everything in that post is true
the fact that you choose not to accept the truth is irrelevant, it is still true
whites cannot (and should not) be trusted

Despite making only 2.5% of the population. 40% of serial killers are men. adherents.com/misc/hsk.html
With further cultural acceptance of faggortry, homosexual white men no longer had to pump boy asshole and them murder it.

There are still serial killers it’s a particularly private criminal life and the guy was right about-I-5 thru California to Oregon/Washington small towns littered with hookers still walking the streets Bakersfield has tons right there they just pick one up and leave and she’s never heard from again because hookers are always moving around. It’s sad but they’re out there

Can you imagine how many serial killers there are in 3rd world or Eastern European countries with little to none security cameras? Like women must just disappear all
The time

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perhaps they got wilier when it came to concealing evidence of their crimes and avoiding apprehension. certainly many people with the driving serial killer impulses are hard at work satisfying them right now, although obviously we cannot know their numbers

As President Trump wisely states video games created a milieu in which mass shootings are the thing. They should be immediately banned.

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kek

All these people talking about auto forensics and cameras are overestimating the cops and what they can do in the 2-3 weeks they have to solve a murder before giving up.
You just dress non-distinctly for your race. If you're white that means northface, columbia, w/e. If you're black just a white tea and basketball shorts if you're dark skinned, long sleeves and long pants if you're light skinned. Wear a cap to concel your face from cameras, and know where they all are ahead of time so you keep your bill covering your face.
Just drive whatever the most populous car model is in your area, that's usually a toyota corolla or something, steal a license plate fro ma different vehicle and slap it on. Go right up to their home and do it quietly, then leave. Leave the body, don't try to move it.

So many people get away with murder just like this, and you gotta remember, if you're unaffiliated with the victim they'll likely never find you to even come up with you as a suspect, only thing you'll have connecting you to the murder is your height, build, race, and that you also drive a white carolla or something.

Pretty sure there's a reason so many successful killers put in work out west. There's just so much land to drop a body without anyone noticing. Wyoming scares me a bit just knowing anyone missing could be chocked up to a bear or cougar attack, not to mention hardly anyone lives there so probably easy as fuck to maneuver.

What they need is non circumstantial evidence

Right? We need more nigger serial killers that only kill other niggers. sigh I guess we'll have to settle for normal black on black crime...

Bless you Wayne

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Uhhh Tarrant livestreamed his massacre on fucking Facebook. If that isn't a spectacle I don't know what is.

Charlie never killed anyone though

That's about as far as I've gotten myself. Even then all it takes is getting your plates ran once, one traffic camera, anything. I'd wager it would be a bit easier if you're "supposed" to be out and about like a truck driver but that always puts you where it puts you. If you go it alone in your own vehicle it would definitely have to be an opportunistic approach. Being prepared to drive all the fucking way there even if you're pulled over 2 hours from home, learn every damn road you could, basically live like a drifter with a home base of sorts that no one outside your home town is aware of, plate swapping (read as hauling contraband), just not fucking worth it

>so that local law enforcement doesn't realize a serial killer is active
that completely misses the point of being a serial killer. the most basic thing about serial killers is that they want to be recognized.

You don't even have to go that far. I've always kind of worried that someone will just decide to hit and run me on purpose when I'm walking about at night. unless it's in an intersection with a traffic cam, or someone saw something, it won't be solved.
Captcha: Vehicles.

They kind of do anyway for the many sex-trafficking rings.

Yeah that's not a bad idea. Even if you do get caught, you can only be charged with vehicular manslaughter and maybe serve 5 years or less.
Drunk drivers sometimes get away with killing whole families and barely serve time for it

>Yeah that's not a bad idea.

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>Firstly, these figures are really debatable
lol

What? Drunk drivers are charged with murder if they kill somebody.
Almost nobody gets away with hit and runs. Cops are immediately looking for dented cars.

Half the Slav girls on pornsites are probably trafficked girls who disappeared from their village.

I miss good old prey and slay killers

if that's not a term in the serial killer community it should be

The bad ones get caught before they become notorious now, and the good ones are so smart thanks to the internet that they never get caught.

Police got more competent and the media simply doesn't talk about them as much.

They use that to get a warrant and get real evidence

Grim and awful as it was u can help but agree that it was a spectacle

Serial killers are partly to blame for this. They abused that trust and kids were told to be suspicious of friendly strangers.

To be fair, I'm wary of friendly strangers because usually they want something. Primarily money.

And that's a good thing.

Good that I'm wary of friendly strangers, or good that they want money?

Good to be wary.

>park car in garage
what now, coppers?

Missing vulnerable people indicate serial killers still exist, theyve just learned not to leave bodies for evidence.

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>43% misunderstood plans
>well shucks, ma said to meet her in the back of this stranger's van but where is she?

>Wyoming scares me a bit

Me too. Still put Montana first though, it's fucking huge and practically empty of people.

Nuke America already

Go ahead and try, little squirt.

>105%
A M A Z I N G

Soon

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i bet you think you're smart
it literally says the numbers dont add to 100

he looks like a maitre d'

Go after women who live alone, duh.

Worried you might fall into the big sky?

I am now.

What kind of people make up the FBI Most Wanted lists nowadays anyway?

I don't think it's used much. There has been a spic who killed his girlfriend and fled to mexico on there for two years.

>Are you saying we're some kinda serial killer squad?

They run the plate to see who owns and drives the car.

This. Eastern Europe it's pretty fucked up.

Pretty sure being a serial killer nowadays is easier than being a domestic terrorist.

what I did was get a car and hea

It's ingrained in peoples heads now days to expect the worst, I don't think it was in the 60s-80s, you're not going to really be a serial killer in America now unless you do some Son of Sam stuff really carefully or something.

I'm sure there are still serial killers out there though in countries like Brazil, China, Spain where the Police simply don't care.

Made me chuckle

Yeah and that's only half of it, either you're lucky enough to get into the UK and get a job or you're stuck there going to either be sold off by your family or your kidnappers.

Now if that's bad just imagine how crazy it is in actual failed states with no police.

You really think the media gives a shit about that? If it bleeds it leads senpai

>different state
>stranger you’ve never met
>wear the Wahlberg outfit
>be on your fuckin way

or if you have loads of time and resources, plastic wraps + small pieces of body like Dexter Morgan

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As already said itt, there are serial killers around. They aren't dumbasses anymore leaving breadcrumbs and having a blast epic trolling the police. If that makes them less 'larger than life', that's your interpretation.

It's too hard to be a serial killer these days. All the cctv and shit

Just like your popcorn marvel shite. People today don't like to savour and stew on a nice well planned series anymore.

To everyone saying "mass shootings are on the rise" that is literally because they changed the definition of a mass shooting to encompass more crimes. There only has to be three victims now, shooter included, for it to qualify.

Canada bringing up the rear. God bless em. The new free world.

Proper spree speak this. Just take the time to work out a method. Take ur time don't haha lead news story one day. Live in infamy.

>Not calling him L I E K

Actually mass shooting happen less now than they did in the 70-80s it's just the people doing em have gotten better

Having a calling card is not leaving evidence, U See.

>Not doing it remotely by drone. Tape a knife to a drone go to town.

Think they arrested some sick fuck who was trying to tape an explosive thing to one. Humans will always find a way to be utter sick degenerate mutts.

13% of population
60% of murders
90% of rapes

Oh wait thats niggers

You have no idea how rural & remote most of America actually is

Fucking idiot, that means 60% of serial killers are women, the majority. Whats your theory on that?

Neither did O. J.

Coz we run dis sheeeet homie.

>t.Lazy zoomer

He was found guilty for being responsible for two deaths.

Or have superior fire power. Bump Stocks for one.Who thought that could reek such carnage.

Murder means premeditated, which means you planned it out before hand 90% of drunk driving fatalities are charged as manslaughter and get less than 5 years. Hell most plea out and see less than a year in prison

You can't be found guilty of anything in civil court

I bet you can be a serial in some third world shithole. You can do that shit in Mexico, Brazil etc. In US and Europe you would have to target people no one is missing like others have said.
Are there any interesting serial killers outside of US and Russia? I only know some of the Russian ones and US ones.

And through all that your toaster is still more likely to kill you than a mass shooter is

I find you guilty of fuck you.

>theres no clear motive for why bigfoot takes these people

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Wettlaufer, the nurse who euthanized like 8 people in retirement homes has also been considered a serial killer

This is a good use of faggots.

Don't leave obvious signs that it was you:
Guard hair and prints (prints are more difficult to pick up than you would think, and hair and such could be okay if you have legitimately visited the location recently)
Have an alibi
Leave your phone and other tracked devices behind
Get rid of the weapon or swap out or re-tool the barrel if using a gun
DON'T TALK BOUT IT (this is the biggest thing that gets people caught)
Most murders go unsolved. Most are solved in the interrogation box...plead the 5th on literally everything and lawyer up immediately

What kind of fucked up toaster do you have. Yanks anything to shift the blame. I laugh at every mass shooting in your shithole country. HAPPY MASS SHOOTING DAY YALLL.

the fuck are you trying to say

The CHAD Prey and Slay vs the virgin pray and spray

>leave phone at home
Yes. This is a super important detail that everyone forgets nowadays. It's too easy to link up cell towers with the location of the body, murder site, etc.

Some hardcore ones in South America, probably a lot in Asia but since noone gives a fuck about another dead souled but they don’t get caught

*soulless bug

>tfw once upon a time a serial killer could stalk, rape, torture, kill and bodydump upper middle class good looking disease-free white women or handsome white femboys and get away with it for decades
>now they must settle for sperging out as a spree or only go after hookers with hyperSTDs or hobos that have missing teeth and reek of piss

no not at all. look up Arizona's Serial Street Shooter/Maryvale Serial Shooter who was caught and the Alaskan Anchorage shooter who's now deceased.

The only serials left are those who target prostitutes, the homeless and those who are in the hospital/medical center (whose killers are medical staff).

The slow police response makes me think that he probably would have gotten away with it too

pfftt they're Boomers, they're dying out

do you mean 2.5% of the population is homosexual men??

People with a bone to pick with society need to kill the people that made it that way, not just normal people who have nothing to do with it.

pretty soon they'll realize a bomb is way more effective at mass killing. the sand niggers are way ahead of us in murder tech.

why do gay people "look" gay? wtf is that

why were young Boomers stupid enough to get into strangers' cars? were Boomers mentally retarded?

>tfw only American left in top ten is a nig
>tfw only white men in top ten are Russians

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Its a combination of internal and expressed genetics. As an example, a man predisposed to homosex will always be more feminine in feature than a comparable male, but the expression of it, including intercourse itself, is generally limited unless they are sexually maligned as a youth. Generally, a predisposed homo who is molested will epigenetically express more femininely. Whether this is a defense mechanism, who knows. Evidence is my ass.

Pretty low murder rate where I live and women walk home alone during all hours of the night. Just last week me and a friend walked home two we met the same night. Don’t base your opinion on /pol/ memes. The balkans are far safer than France, UK or the USA. I have stories for lady friends where they would not dare to walk at night in Paris for example.

>tfw only eastern Europe is still non-shitted to death with shitskins
good luck m8 don't ever let them destroy your home

>Pedro Lopez
>Current whereabouts unknown
BUILD THE WALL

That's bullshit but I believe it

11th through 20th place top ten serials (not including medical serials)

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Why is there so many ecudorians and columbians on this list ?

One of those is actually free and apparently keeps a youtube channel.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Rodrigues_Filho

few different factors

mass poverty + high population density + overall very shitty and corrupt police + kids just roam around by themselves + overall violent/dangerous part of the world

ermmm

Among the top 20 non-medical serials there are:

>6 white men, 4 of which are Russian/Soviet
>The other two white men is a white American and white Canadian.
>There are two Americans, one of which is a white man (already mentioned above) and the other is a black man.
>All others are non-white.
What diversity these serial killers have!

Thanks. This place has many problems but there are some things worth saving.

>Filho was born on a farm in Santa Rita do Sapucaí, south of Minas Gerais, with his skull bruised as a result of his father kicking his mother's belly during a fight.
>At 14, he killed the deputy mayor of Santa Rita do Sapucaí by shooting him in front of the city hall, for having fired his father, a school guard, then accused of stealing school lunch.
>Still in Mogi, he executed his father in a city jail for killing his mother with 21 machete blows. His revenge was cruel: in addition to 22 stab wounds, he ripped out his father's heart, chewed a part and spat it out,

The dude had a hard life. Ive noticed a great deal of serial killers have a large physical trauma when they were young, almost like a psychological turning point. This guy literally had a bruised brain from birth.

There does seem to be a strong link of receiving a physical blow to the head or a shockwave force to the head and then later developing antisocial behavior.

The recipe not only for a serial killer but overall antisocial behavior is this:
>related to a relative with antisocial tendencies +
>getting a blow to the head +
>being abused as a child +
>unstable/stressful/abusive overall periods during early childhood/teen development

Oh yes and of course being male is a huge factor as well. 95% of all violence and sexual assault is committed by males.

Men still do this. You're just too pathetic to never be a party to it.

Blatantly false. For starters, things like domestic violence and sexual assualt perpetration are almost half and half. Its just that everyone thinks a woman is empowered if she beats and rapes a man.

Women constitute nearly half of all sexual assaults and homicides? Amazing how much of a fool you are user.

Only some of them. Dahmer didn't want any publicity, the only reason he got caught was one of his meals got away. Only a handful taunted the cops and tried to be "famous", like the Zodiac and Berkowitz. The Toolbox killers got caught because they fucked up and got sloppy. The ones who wanted publicity are outliers, and isn't one of the big criteria of what makes them kill. Read the books the real guys from the show wrote.

Google Israel Keyes
He killed himself rather than confess to anything

The guy was so prepared yet at the end made such a retarded mistakes. What the fuck was wrong him?

I wonder about him, was he really as prolific as some assume? Wonder how much law enforcement knows about him. Isn't it known he "only" killed a couple then that poor coffee barista woman? Hardly the stuff of legends if simply three people.

Psychopathic arrogance and assumption he was untouchable probably along with compulsion to escalate and take bigger risks or he wouldn't be able to feel the rush and/or possible sexual pleasure in his acts.

Bundy acted shocked later whenever someone had noticed him at places where his murders had occurred, he seemed to assume no one noticed him because he didn't pay attention to other people (besides the woman he murdered).
I have noticed from what I've read that people with antisocial tendencies along with autistic people seem to lack the ability to have theory of mind. Apparently some autists have difficulty with this, if they know something in a group but others do not have awareness of the same thing, the autists have a hard time grasping the others don't know about it. Autists also lack empathy.

I think psychopaths do just hate people and don't bother to pay attention to them at all unless they want something from them - and yet in addition they seem to truly be have something wrong with their brain or thinking, it's like a blindspot. Watching that interview with Bundy in the jail in Colorado, when asked what he thinks the families of the missing/murdered women are going through you can tell he's lost for a moment - he doesn't seem to know the "right" thing to say when it's obvious to most people.

He was an actual psychopath. That's it. That's what was wrong with him. They just... do stupid shit like that.

This. Technology has gotten better and forensic science getting fucking waaay better.

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There are still serial killers its just with modern forensics the learning curve is much steeper. All the active serial killers we don't even know about because they're successful.

bundy was not a psychopath, and he acted shocked because he was lying. he was denying that he was there doing the things he was caught doing.

You ever feel like you're waiting for The Big One? One that lives out his whole life and only when he's dead or like 90 years old he gets found out and he literally ends up having hundreds of confirmed kills. And not someone from a shithole like South America.

I guess guys like Gary Ridgway and Joseph DeAngelo (EAR/ONS) are kinda what I'm talking about but I'm thinking more some guy who started when he was like 15 back in the day and kept going his whole life.

partially. many gang members kill people at the same rate that serial killers do, making them de facto serial killers as well. it's not just the white male ted bundy types out there. there are tons of people who kill people every once in a while.

Why wouldn't Bundy have had antisocial personality disorder?

It's curious that gang killers seem to not be included, yet the definition of a serial killer is someone who kills at least 3 people on two separate occasions with a long time duration in between.
>Although psychological gratification is the usual motive for serial killing, and most serial killings involve sexual contact with the victim,[5] the FBI states that the motives of serial killers can include anger, thrill-seeking, financial gain, and attention seeking.[6]
None of the above copy/paste rules out gangbangers who shoot up people in the hood either.

I think the motivation is a key reason why people distinguish. In practical terms there is little difference but people tend to see those that kill for personal gratification as serial killers. And see gang killers or hitmen as no serial killers because they are working for an organisation and mercenary reasons. However there are plenty of examples of serial killers who's primary motivation was financial, e.g H.H Holmes or Harold Shipman. Yet hitman serial killers like Richard Kuklinski seem to be seen in a different light.

I'd say the main criterion for the classic serial killer is:
1. They kill over 3 people with a period of time in between, the cool off period.
2. The killings are often ritualistic and committed for personal satisfaction either sexual, for fun or for financial gain.
3. They work alone, in a pair or a small group but not as part of a criminal organisation committed contracted killings.

Yeah probably, there are plenty of unsolved killings. And people would surprised how incompetent the police really are when it comes to discovering links between murders even when the similarities are obvious. If you kill random strangers and they can't get any solid physical evidence to link to you it is very hard to catch them when there is no obvious connection.

I think there's multiple factors that contribute to this. In the modern age it's a lot easier to be a weirdo, you don't have to live a double life and this effectively makes it easier to become a full-blown society rejecting nihilist who doesn't value his own life. Serial killers would rarely ever accept dying for their crimes, but most of these shooters are all too eager to throw their life away. On top of that, everything is so politicized nowadays it's easy for sociopaths to channel their malice into generic racism.

I also think that nowadays people are genuinely convinced that they WILL get caught. Very few people are so stupid that they think they can outsmart modern police. If they do, they are either genuine retards who will get caught immediately (thus not become serial killers), or they are impulsive morons with no self-control (which again rarely becomes a serial killer).
The organized, methodical type of person that USED to become a serial killer, nowadays would be smart enough to know that he can't get away with it.

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Another layer to consider is that in the cases of John Wayne Gacy and Dean Corll (candyman) there is a kind of organization component though. Dean recruits boys to lure kids to him and one survivor of Gacy saw another man in the house watching on as Gacy tortured the survivor. A few of the kills attributed to Gacy were done when he was for certain not in town at the time.

I feel like some of these men are selling porn or snuff tapes or broing it up with fellow predators and possibly making profits off of it. Yet, Gacy and Corll are considered to be staple serial killers.

holy based OC

Wait what, why the fuck would you think Bundy is not a psychopath? He had one of the highest scores of any serial killer ever on whatever that the psychopathy test is called that they use.

pls delete apostrophe after "know's" under virgin shooter thank you

1) cops got better at catching them
2) the media stopped giving them attention, which they never should've done in the first place
but it's probably more the first.

kek

>extremest
pls fix to be spelling, thank to you

wasn't he 40/40 on Hare's antisocial inventory? lmao that user is smoking crack, Bundy is THE high functioning white serial killer that everyone has as the template in their mind when they imagine a serial killer

Thats true, so maybe they were contracted? Or maybe they were traditional serial killers but also profitting from their hobby? Either way if there was some shady group of people comissioning him then it would be in there interest to close the case by branding him as a lone serial killer. There are blurring of the edges in cases like this. I would say that Gacy and others still differ from a gang killer because even if they were recruited in some way they were still killing for their own satisfaction as a primary factor.

To illustrate this more clearly I would give the example of 2 street gang members who kill over 3 people in seperate incidences. One kills rival gang members in 3 seperate incidences in disputes over drug dealing turf. The other kills people at random for fun. The latter would be considered a serial killer in the traditional sense in my mind but just operating through the context of gang crime.

then again apparently during EAR/ONS's reign of terror often people report they weren't even aware what was going on because the cops and the media weren't talking about it, news used to travel slower even in the 70s/80s. internet and smart phones changed everything

eastern europe is worse than many countries in africa

I get what you mean but some of these gangbangers probably just pop off and kill just for the thrill of it too. It just seems a bit bullshit they're not also considered serials. I understand why that is but ehhh

Most of them were from the era before DNA. I think the Green River Killer did everything right, but was caught because of leaving something as small as a hair follicle

Yeah in that case they are, its just easier for everyone concerned to dismiss it as gang crime.

>tfw Ridgway was jokingly referred to as "Green River Gary" by his coworkers long before he got caught
"Ha ha, y-yeah guys, t-that's me, Green River Gary..."

>attach phone to cat
>let it run around the night you're out
>jackpot

I'm a fucking genius.

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Didn't they track him down by paint pariticles from somewhere and he worked in a paint factory as a sprayer?

You are actually right that autism and psychopathy are somewhat similar. I've read a lot of stories about non-violent psychopaths, the types that "blend in", and they basically came across more like autistic vulcans to me than anything.
From my understanding the issue of how they choose to act really ends up just being how much they want to blend in. Some psychopaths care very much about blending in, having a social network etc. So they actively try to be good people even though there is no genuine motivation behind it. For example there was this one psychopathic woman I read about, she had a husband and friends, but she absolutely had no emotional attachment to them, and basically described all the social niceties she did as hard work, exhausting, and a pain in the ass.
But other psychopaths will care a lot less about blending in. These types might just want to be left alone. They realize they have nothing in common with the rest of humanity so they don't bother trying to interact.
The danger in psychopaths is always that there is nothing stopping them from just becoming abusive or outright killers. Nothing at all. If they don't do that it's probably because they don't see it being worth the trouble. Why risk your job by acting abnormal? That kind of thing. But if those concerns aren't there, why wouldn't they?

Another thing people don't often know is that they don't JUST lack empathy. It's more accurate to say that they can barely feel anything at all. They only experience what is called "shallow affect", ie. superficial emotions. Even their anger for example is just temporary bursts, they never hold long-term grudges. This is why I said they are like autistic vulcans, because it's not just empathy they lack, they lack the whole package. Just fundamentally empty people, practically soulless.

>What is tinfoil. And why is it so cheap.

Farraday cage kill room baby.

lmao

I think so

this is why so few are serials anymore, all that prep and planning is exhausting. everyone under the age of 40 seems perpetually tired and lack any drive outside of their soul sucking job

Psychopaths are definitely better than Autists at learning social cues and mimicking emotional behaviour to their own benefit. Autists can't do that. Thats the main difference and the only real similarity is lack of empathy. But obviously that lack of empathy manifests in two completely different types of people. Nobody would consider a full blown autist as charming or even ruthless.

you sound mad about a bunch of worthless cattle getting murdered in someone else country.

are you worthless cattle too? lol

You're right user.

Compounding all of this, everyone is so tired, depressed and anxious these days. Our way is living makes people weird and asocial. Invasive modern tech and soulless, thankless jobs make people check out. Social trust is utterly decimated.
I'm not saying these things make people sociopathic - but our culture rewards that behavior to an extent. This environment cannot be healthy for regular people, let alone sociopaths.

Or maybe I'm wrong and this kind of lifestyle is more beneficial to them or allows them to relax with themselves. I do think the way things are today make a lot of people wonder if they're sociopaths - no, We Just Live In A Society.

>EARONS caught
>LISK will probably be caught one day
>Zodiac most certainly was Arthur Leigh Allen, unless Graysmith just fabricated all the evidence

Is there any serial killer left that won't get caught?

maybe ruthlessly annoying kek

Time Magazine no longer promotes serial killers as they used to

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Honestly I've wondered about certain e-celebs being psychopaths before, like that guy Asmongold. I would think they definitely have it better these days, because you can mostly pick-and-choose how much social interaction you want in your life.

I bet LISK is a cop, just like EAR/ONS was.

There's loads of serials who won't get caught, there's articles on them out there but few have heard of them.

Probably. I bet lots of insta or youtube e-celebs are clinical narcissists or have ASPD.

When is EAR/ONS case up anyway feels like ages ago since he was geanology.commed.

Cleveland Torso Murderer

One of my fears is raising a kid that becomes a serial killer or is deformed/birth defects. How do fathers cope with this feeling is beyond me.

>Americans give cute nicknames to inanimate objects used to execute people
And you wonder why you have so many mass murderers

Men certainly dont represent 95% of perpetrators. The statement was "violence", not homicide, which still wouldnt be 95%.

His next court appearance is literally tomorrow, I believe.
But who knows, the legal system is so fucking insanely slow. He's not even convicted yet afaik, wikipedia still lists him as a "suspect" lmao.

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Some interviews with Bundy to me he comes as as... well, honestly like he was retarded but only in a very specific way that had nothing to do with his intellect. Also like a bit of a space alien.

I have heard self proclaimed sociopaths say their lack of feeling doesn't distress them and they don't suffer for that - but who knows if that's even true (sociopaths lie 24/7 just for the hell of it) and also nobody knows if these people online are actual sociopaths or edgy teenagers whose brains haven't matured yet.

it's going to takes years and years user

Imagine how many serial killers Yea Forums may have defused over the years?

There are loads of inborn psychopaths, the magic combo for a serial killer is almost invariably an inborn psychopathy coupled with a traumatic childhood. You can be a psychopath but if you don't have a bad upbringing you will not have the same psychosexual warping that makes someone become a sexual sadist. If a psycopath is beaten and abused as a child they make that connection and in adulthood can only be satisfied when committing violence especially against the source of their sexual desire and obviously naturally lack the empathy and conscience to resist that urge. Psychopaths or perhaps I should say sociopaths can often exist in normal life without issue until someone gets in their way, they might kill if they see it as the only logical option. That is when you get the opportunistic father that kills their entire family and blames it on a home intruder but it turns out they wife was planning to leave him and he took out life insurance on them.

birth defects are much, much more likely than becoming a serial killer. reproducing is always a huge risk in a civilized society.

FUCK is that him recently. He looks fucked probably won't last through the trial.

Just dont be a piece of shit and beat your kid, give them a loving upbringing and you will reduce the chances to a massive degree.

He lost a lot of weight. Looks way more evil now than during his first appearance where he pretended like he had alzheimers or some shit.

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all those people who go missing in America's national parks are probably attributed to a serial killer

Wasn't there some theory or study that fathers who were veterans of Vietnam came back super fucked up and raised all these psychos?
Also, it's far simpler to track and catch a killer with modern technology and surveillance.
As other anons have said, they've been replaced by mass shooters who can execute sporadic acts of violence and rack up a similar body count, but they lose out on being in the public conscience once everyone forgets after the new capeshit movie comes out

There's no difference between psychopaths and sociopaths, neither are clinical terms that mean anything.

Most people with ASPD will never kill anyone, just act like raging asshole and make everyone around them hate them and feel miserable.

It's possible but people underestimate how easy it is to die or get lost in wilderness, even right next to a hiking trail.

Yeah I actually agree with that but everytime I speak on the topic on this site, there is some cretin who crops up and argues that there is a clinical difference.

Ughgh yeah it's a guarantee with online conversations like these
>ackshully sociopaths are different-
No! No they're not!

With something like the Hare psychopathy quiz can't someone just fudge their answers? I really doubt psychology and psychiatry as a whole field, nearly all of it seems like soft, unproven science. Neuropsychology is where it's at, when they scan brains and whatnot.

>my feet hurt
>this serial killer-rapist smells
>I have to babbysit criminals all day
>I want to go home

I'll quote one comment about someone who had a sociopath friend
>He was a very self aware sociopath. Most socipaths when they realise they are different (a lot never do. They are not good at introspection) come to the conclusion they are a superior type of human being. Their lack of empathy makes them more capable (in their eyes). This guy did not think like that. He was aware something was missing. Once or twice he made allusions to being empty inside. Like life was just a long boring video game and he was doing stuff to keep occupied until he died. I think he could sense other people were feeling things that he could not. And he was attempting to copy that by mimicking their behaviour but it was not working.

Honestly, reading about them made me realize that not all sociopaths are the same. Yeah they all lack emotions but just like people who have emotions can be wildly different, people who lack them can also be different in many respects. So I wouldn't throw them all in one box (aside from the "doesn't feel emotions" box). They might reflect on their unique situation differently. But most psychopaths think their lack of emotion makes them superior.

Interesting thing about Bundy is a lot of the professionals who interviewed him were absolutely convinced everything he said was part of some manipulation scheme, literally everything. They never even entertained the idea that any reaction he ever gave was genuine. Sometimes this seemed a bit hard to believe to me, but what do I know, I have a bad habit of taking people at their word. Given Bundy's psychological profile it's not far-fetched to say everything he said was manipulation in some fashion. Even his last words, "send my love to my friends and family", was just an attempt at making it look like he had a connection to the world, like he would maybe be missed, in other words - making it look like he had a bit of control.

what is going on here?

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>Once or twice he made allusions to being empty inside. Like life was just a long boring video game and he was doing stuff to keep occupied until he died.
Lots of people feel the same but it's likely worse for them more consistently. I don't think it's the lack of feeling that gives them any suffering but their boredom and the drudgery of life hits them harder than normal people.

>reading about them made me realize that not all sociopaths are the same.
I agree with that

I do think for most of them, they simply cannot or will not stop wheeling, dealing, wheedling, spinning their bullshit no matter what, so what Bundy was like in jail is no exception. Interestingly though, some stuff in his ex gf's book caught my eye, give me a sec, I'll post it after I submit this one.

>statista.com/statistics/194213/crime-clearance-rate-by-type-in-the-us/
61.6%
>murderdata.org/2019/02/black-murders-account-for-all-of.html?m=1
61% with a big disparity between race
>ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2016/crime-in-the-u.s.-2016/topic-pages/clearances
59.4% the previous year (different from his graph)

The figures are debatable.

Elizabeth Kendall's book "The Phantom Prince"
except from when Bundy was finally caught for good in Florida:
>"You shouldn't be calling me," I told him. "There's a trap on the phone," I lied.
>He was crying. "It's okay, it's okay. I'm in custody. It's all over."
>"Where?" I asked.
>"Well, I made a deal with the police. They aren't going to announce my arrest until tomorrow morning so that I can talk with you and my family. It's going to be bad when it breaks."
>"I'm not going to call up Channel 7," I told him. "Where are you?"
>"Florida - Pensacola."
>"Oh, no! I was hoping you'd be picked up anywhere but Florida. I saw this picture in the paper last month - those sorority women were murdered. I told the FBI that I hoped you weren't there."
>"It's going to be bad," he said, "real bad when it breaks tomorrow. I want you to be prepared. It could be really ugly."
>"Are you a suspect in those murders?" I asked.
>"I wish we could sit down .. alone ... and talk about things... with nobody listening ... about why I am the way I am."
>There was a long pause. I didn't want to know but I asked anyway. "Are you telling me ... that you're sick?"
>"Back off!" he barked. " I meant how come I've hurt you so many times."
>I was startled by the abruptness of his answer. I said nothing.

will continue with some more

>"How's your love life?" he asked. "Anyone new in your life?"
>I told him that yes, I had fallen in love.
>"He's a lucky guy," Ted told me. Soon we were talking as freely as we ever had. My friend Hank came into the bedroom where I was and demanded that I get off the phone. Tina had told him that I was talking to Ted. I shook my head, no. Hank
stormed out and I soon heard his truck roar away. Ted and I kept talking.
>I asked him about his escape from Colorado, but he wouldn't talk about it. He did talk about his first days of freedom and about sitting in a bar in Michigan and watching the University of
Washington Huskies play Michigan in the Rose Bowl. I tried to remember how afraid I had been when he escaped, but it seemed unreasonable now. Soon I heard Hank returning. Ted asked if he could talk with Hank for a minute. Hank looked so agitated that I thought he might throw up, but he was answering "I know" and "I will" to Ted's exhortations to take good care of me and Tina.
>"May God have mercy on your soul," Hank said and gave the phone back to me.
>Ted and I continued to talk. I told him I was surprised that he was back in custody, that I thought he would rather be dead than be a prisoner again.
>"I thought so, too," he told me. "I'm realiy disappointed in myself. I just didn't have what it takes to die."
>I wanted to talk more about the circumstances of his arrest, particularly about the murders I'd read about. He told me not to bring it up again, that he didn't want to talk about it.
>"But why are the police waiting till tomorrow to make this public?" I asked. "What was your end of the bargain?"
>"They didn't know who they had," he told me. "I've been playing with them since Wednesday. I finally told them who I was in exchange for these phone calls."

cont

>At 2:00 A. M. the next Saturday, the phone rang. I was out of bed and into the living room before I was even awake. It was a collect call from Ted.
>"I want to talk about. .. what we were talking about on Thursday," he said, haltingly.
>"About being sick?" I asked.
>"Yes . ... I've been talking with a priest." He was crying. "I'm going to try to clear things up in away ... that I'll be back in Washington. I have a ... responsibility ... to those who have suffered and I want to reconcile things," he went on in a weak voice.
>"I love you," I said. "I just don't know what to say..."
...
>I knew that I wouldn't remember what Ted was telling me if I didn't write it down.
>"I was afraid you would have nothing to do with me if I told you." His voice was so weary that I started to cry. "Didn't you ... always think it was possible?"
>"No," l said. "I didn't think it could be true. I had my doubts but .. I just couldn't accept it. Sometimes ... I wondered if it was me ... that you hated me ... and wanted to kill me."
>"No. There is something the matter with me. It wasn't you. It was me. I just couldn't contain it. I've fought it for a long, long time ... it got too strong. We just happened to be going together when it got under way. I tried, believe me, I tried to suppress it. It was taking more and more of my time. That's
why I didn't do well in school. My time was being used trying to make my life look normal. But it wasn't normal. All the time I could feel that force building in me .... " His voice faded off for a moment. "You can ask me questions, if you want. I'll try to answer the best I can."

cont

There should be a 10 year rule for cereal killers. Like if you evade police for 10 years as a cereal killer, than your crimes are dropped and your allowed to go public with what you did with no repercussions

My frienf said if the cops dont show up after 15 mins you get to go home

No, murder just means you intended to kill somebody. That's why first-degree and second-degree murder are different charges, since planning it is not the same as intending to kill.
Manslaughter is when you kill somebody on accident. It can be in involuntary (completely an accident, such as hitting somebody who ran across a busy highway without using a crosswalk) or voluntary (beating somebody to death).

You're right that most drunk driving cases are manslaughter, but it has nothing to do with planning or not.

>"Did you ever. .. " How was I going to put this? "Did you ever want. .. to kill me?"
>There was a long, heavy silence. "Well, there was one time when I was reatly trying hard to control it so I'd been staying off the streets and trying to feel normal. But it just happened that I was sleeping with you at your house when I felt it coming on. I closed the damper so the smoke couldn't go up the chimney, and then I left and put a towel in the crack under the door so the smoke would stay in the apartment."
>I remembered that night well. I'd been pretty drunk by the time we climbed into the hide-a-bed in front of the fireplace. I woke up briefly as Ted was leaving, and he told me he was going back to his house to get his fan because the fireplace was backed up. I had sleepily pulled the covers over my head because I couldn't breathe. But soon I couldn't breathe under the covers, either. My eyes were running and I was coughing. I jumped out of bed and threw open the nearest window and stuck my head out. After I had recovered some, I opened all the windows and the doors and broke up the fire the best I could. I had gotten on Ted the next day for not coming back with the fan.
...
>I told him that I sometimes wondered if he used me to touch base with reality, like the night Carol DaRonch was kidnapped and Debbie Kent vanished and he called me at midnight. Or taking me out for hamburgers after what happened at Lake Sammamish.
>"Yeah, that's a pretty good guess," he said. "It's like it's over. I don't have a split personality. I don't have blackouts. I remember everything I've done. Like Lake Sammamish. We went out to Farrell's for ice cream after eating hamburgers. It wasn't like I had forgotten or couldn't remember, but it was just over ... gone ... the force wasn't pushing me any more. I don't understand it. The force would just consume me."

cont

Unironically one of the biggest reasons is porn on the internet, people can now watch their fetishes and jack off to them getting rid of the compulsion to act them out in real life, it's also the reason why male virginity has risen so high as well as why so many men aren't in a relationship

Serial killers are smarter with the information age. Mass shooters would also be jacking off at the same time, idiots.

Mass shooting doesn't have a sexual component to it, whereas a lot of serial killing was done as sexual gratification, even when no sexual acts were committed on the victim, the killer got sexual pleasure from the murder

>"Like one night, I was walking by the campus and I followed this sorority girl. I didn't want to follow her. I didn't do anything but follow her and that's how it was. I'd be out late at night and follow people like that. . .. I'd try not to, but I'd do it anyway."
>"What about Brenda Ball? I remember you took my family and me out for pizza that night and then hurried away only to be late for Tina's baptism the next day. Is that where you were?"
>He mumbled something that I couldn't understand and then said, "It's pretty scary, isn't it?"
>"But the police are saying that the murders started in 1969 - that's the year we met. What was it that made it start in '69?"
>"The police are years off," he told me.
>"I thought if you ever got free, you'd never so much as jaywalk to stay free ... and now this in Florida," I said.
>"I know. Me, too. I loved my freedom. But I have a sickness . .. a disease like your alcoholism ... you can't take another drink and with my ... sickness ... there is something ... that I just can't be around ... and I know it now."
>I asked him what that was and he said, "Don't make me say it."
>Throughout the conversation he kept telling me that I never needed to worry about Tina or myself. He talked of his responsibility to society and again, of arranging things so that he would be back in Washington State.
...
>I try to live my life according to God's will. There is comfort in knowing that if I stay sober, the worst is behind me. I have always prayed a lot and still do. I pray for Ted, but I am sickened by him.
...
>I was distraught as the days and then weeks flew by after his last middle-of-the-night phone call. He said he was going to make things right, but nothing happened. Why did he tell me the truth and then not act on it? I felt as if he had laid a burden on me.

cont

Yes they do. Brain imaging.

>I managed to force myself to tell him that I was surprised that he had done nothing about making things right as he had said he would do. He said that I would have to understand that it had been a very emotional time for him, and that in the light of new developments it was an inopportune time for such action.
>In other words, he hadn't meant to tell me the truth, but it had slipped out under the stress of his recapture.

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So it seems like it was another manipulation by Bundy or during a time of severe stress he was off his game so much that some amount of honesty came through while on the phone with his ex gf. Soon as he was feeling more stable and that maybe he still had some cards left to play he was back to his usual self.

Bundy wasn't smart or superior. He was lucky. The PNW police that were trying to catch him were too busy watching porn and eating lard to do real police work. One of his ex girl friends even dimed out Bundy and the police basically told her to put her husband on the phone.

He escaped from jail TWICE due to police incompetence.

He goes down to Florida, kills a few people, and is almost immediately apprehended in a routine traffic stop after pulling an illegal U turn by some hillbilly cop. Bundy tried to fight the guy and was knocked out cold and that was it.

He might have wanted to create an insanity defense or something like that and wanted to bait her into acting as a witness to attest to this.

Yep. His gf kept calling the police.

EAR/ONS was also very lucky but he was also "hard working" and very physically fit and cunning, he managed to evade a police car on a fucking bicycle. Once a neighbor who was a fed overheard him attacking a household and jumped in his car to pursue - then the fed's car engine shit out and died right as soon as he was trying to follow EAR/ONS.

In neurology, psychopathy has been attributed to lack of empathy caused by issues with the amygdala. You will notice many of these guys don't understand certain concepts like friendship because of this lack of empathy. Brain damage definitely probably contributes to many of these, and sociopathy arises in others that had extreme psychological abuse as children.

Maybe but he outright stated that he didn't have black outs nor a split personality and his gf Liz didn't attend any of his trials IIRC.
Maybe give her a nibble of truth so she feels satisfied and would continue to interact with him/give him money/help him/etc? I do think it's possible he was actually honest with her for like half a minute due to losing all chances of freedom, he felt like he had nothing else to lose in all likelihood at the time.... then soon after realized body locations were still cards he had to play along with the fact the prosecution had no actual hard evidence against him (bite mark analysis is now recognized as bullshit).

Yeah EARONS was hilarious how much he relied on athleticism to get away, it was such a joke to me that he never got caught back then.

Though I would say that it's more fair to see that your intelligence matters little in getting away with crimes. The perfect mastermind criminal who leaves no evidence simply doesn't exist. It's inevitable that they make some mistake.
Police being incompetent is one of the primary causes for killers getting away. The other is them choosing low-profile victims.
In that respect Bundy and EARONS were "impressive" for getting away for a while despite killing extremely high-profile victims.

Does that mean that psychological abuse actually physically damages the brain? Or damages its neural pathways or something similar?

>being treated like a nothing results in viewing others as being nothing
pottery

>*spends hours stalking people and mapping their comings and goings*
>*rapes your gf/wife or daughter*
>*eats your food*
>*steals your valuables*
>*casually vaults over a six foot fence one handed and evades police on foot or on bicycle*
>"Heh, nothing personnel kid..."
amazing since he was a Big Guy (for you) and ate so much junk food his coworkers nicknamed him "Junkfood Joe" how tf does that square with his nighttime proclivities?

Not him, I think the "abuse = sociopathy" link is actually somewhat overblown. The science says that environment is a contributing factor, but they say that for fucking everything.

I am not sure genuine antisocial personality disorder is ever 100% "learned" merely through abusive childhoods

gotta have the genetics/epigenetics for it along with a blow to the noggin then maybe

Trying to establish a psychological profile for this dude is fascinating. I feel like all these little things like eating from their fridge while they were tied up and so on, were all for the sake of feeling control over his victims.

That would be pre 80s so stuff like modern gang wars were prevalent around then. Not mafia stuff so much as modern gang stuff.

It was and I think it was also for convenience. He spent hours in their homes raping and going through their stuff then vaulted and jogged his way back home - a man gets hungry doing all that. Apparently part of his M.O. that was secret was that he would steal a photograph of the woman/couple and take it with him.
>be EAR/ONS
>demand victim take off ring, says "I'll cut off your finger if you can't take off your ring."
>as soon as he leaves and goes outside EAR/ONS just hurls ring onto the roof of the house

His version of pic related would feature California suburbs and "I love to rape" with him wearing a balaclava.

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Also a high chance they're being used to clear up unsolved crimes / mob crimes

Yes, very much so

Childrens brains are still wiring, and if you aren't exposed to certain stimuli at a crucial age you will grow up without the ability to understand that stimulus. This could include language, it is impossible to rehabilitate feral children with language after a certain age for example. If you never make a bond attachment with a caregiver and you are treated like shit the whole time and even physically abused that will be reflected in how your brain becomes wired. I suggest that its an evolutionary advantage if you grow up in a shitty, poor and violent environment that your brain rewires itself to make you violent and lacking empathy simply to survive.

Abuse is more crucial in the serial killer phenomenon. Two factors predetermined psychopathy and childhood abuse come together to create the serial killer.

Imagine how many this site has supported into following their dreams.

we live in a society that stopped looking into narcissism as an epidemic in 2006

If you're a doctor you won't even get a sentence for crippling a man if he survives and points you out, because it'd ruin your future business prospects too much.

It has died down since adult swim canned his show

Bigfoot totally has a motive. He takes the shit hikers. He's sifting us until we one day match up to his innawoods standards.

>psychological abuse actually physically damages the brain?
Yep of course.

Uhhhhh that's not good