Why did they have to drop the ring into a volcano when they could just drop it into the middle of the ocean?

The ring doesn't grant invincibility, let alone immunity to the laws of nature.

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Why didn't they just shoot the ring into outer space?

what does it even do, besides turn you invisible?

t. elf

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why did destroying the ring even do anything?

how is Sauron's power in any way tied to the ring?

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this too why did Sauron want it so badly?
how did he even lose it in the first place?

Jesus, are you fucking retarded? Did you not watch the movie OR read the book? It's spelled out loud and clear. Why are you even in this thread if you have to ask such a question?

Hiding or tossing the ring doesn't really solve the problem. Even without it Sauron was poised to win the upcoming war. The only hope was to destroy the ring and thus end Sauron's power.

Why didn't Sauron just make a backup ring?

If Sauron was going to win even without the ring then why did he make it in the first place?

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It makes you succeed at things. Gollum wanted to be the best at catching fish, and he became that. Frodo wanted to carry the ring into Mordor, and he did that. The problem is that it makes you drunk with success and leaves you aiming for higher and higher goals, until you lose sight of your moral compass and start unwittingly helping Sauron's agenda. Hobbits are incredibly simplistic and unsophisticated creatures who can't even begin to comprehend lofty ambitions, so they're ideal for carrying the ring.

He put 50% of his own soul into the ring. 50% of him was burned up together with the ring.

Because it took 50% of his soul to forge just one.

Why didn't he use the remaining 50% to forge a new one? Did the previous 50% contain 100% of his goldsmithing skill?

How do you expect him to walk around with no soul left?

he could have just used 50% of his remaining soul, leaving himself with 25% total.

They mentioned this in the book and they said it would not work because the ring has a will of its own. It would just delay the problem until it washes up on a shore somewhere and you're back right where you started.

It's not physically possible for a metal object from the bottom of the ocean to wash up ashore. The only way out for it is to end up in the middle of a sedimentary rock and get above the surface due to tectonic processes a billion years later.

That's why you shoot it into outer space.

you're assuming it would reach the bottom and a critter wouldnt eat it along the way down. could be a whale which would then wash up on some beach

Well, all the power of the wizards couldn't destroy it or they would've just done that. With the most powerful beings helpless, their best bet was to drop it where it was formed. They knew for a fact that Mordor could melt it, since it was shaped there in the first place. What were they going to do, throw it in a random volcano and hope it melted? If it didn't it would be perfectly intact and irretrievable.

If elven steel can't be touched by evil creatures (cabon),why dont the put the ring in the middle of a big fat block of steel? Then you throw the thing into the ocean or whatrver, you don't give a fuck anymore

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why they didn´t cast the ring away into space?

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*canon

>It's not physically possible
this is a fantasy series with magic you pedantic bag

same shit would happen on a different planet

You're assuming it reaches the bottom. Say they drop it at the deepest point (I'm using Earths oceans here, since we don't know anything about the ones in Middle Earth), and say that it sinks a full foot every single second. The ring still has almost ten hours to screw with fate and intercept itself. A sea animal would be drawn to it, maybe hold it in it's mouth. Take it back to it's den. One way or another, it would get passed around. And slowly, the ring would find it's way back.

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That's their fucking problem.

what if you like tied it to a really heavy thing

He already wasn't walking around

Then you use this

>all the power of the wizards couldn't destroy it or they would've just done that.

When did they have the opportunity to try that?

Tom Bombadil can put it up his ass

I think the Middle-Earth didn't have any other volcanoes.

There's not enough space left there for it.

Because Sauron was going to roll over them with his armies ring or no ring, so only be destroying it did they stand a chance of a victory. Also, there’s no guarantee it wouldn’t wash up on the shore somewhere and be rediscovered.

they needed to drop it in a specific volcano not just a volcano

Is the one ring stronger than the infinity gauntlet?

Do we have any concrete reason to believe the LOTR oceans are deep? They could be no deeper than the average lake or river. It's a fantasy world.

In Tolkien world magic is the pouring of your (or other's) life into an object which can be done responsibly or evil.
Remember the Elf bottled light? That light is from a living star that was light captured from a living tree originally. That's magic.
Sauron's ring made him much more powerful but he poured himself into the ring to make that magic work. He went overboard because he's evil. Separated from the ring he can't even remake his physical body anymore because he gassed himself so badly to make it.
The last time Sauron was killed it was from before he made the ring and it didn't take him terribly long to incarnate another body.
His physical body was killed. He became a disembodied soul.

>Separated from the ring he can't even remake his physical body anymore because he gassed himself so badly to make it.
Only in the movies. In the books he can still make a body, he’s just not as strong as when he as the ring, and eternally worried that someone will find it, master it, and use it against him.

>Only in the movies
I picked my words carefully. I said he can't remake his body, ie he can't reform himself as he was at the end of the second age after he was cursed to look ugly.

That's just winning time, you fucking troglodyte.
Sauron wouldn't die, his armies would fuck humanity, then he would just create some monster fish things to find the Ring for him. THE END.

>Ocean floor fauna can't swim up because the low pressure would tear them apart.
It could pass from one creature to another up the depths

Sauron is a spirit being, him losing his body is really not a problem, he had already lost a body when god sank numenor.

>It's not physically possible for a metal object from the bottom of the ocean to wash up ashore.
There is nothing impossible about that.
t. physicist

Just blast that piece of shit into space where it's never seen again. Problem fucking solved.

Smelt it inside a 1 ton iron cube, nothing will be able to move it from the deep

And how do you propose to make said blast?

This. The Ring (probably) never would’ve been found had Gollum remained in his cave uninterrupted but it had a will of its own and ensnared Bilbo when the opportunity arose.

fuck I keked you silly autist

They have explosives, rocket fireworks, and magic. I'm sure they could fucking figure something out.

5 giant squids will come get it

The Ring has a will of its own.

Why didn't Tolkein just make the ring disappear in the first couple chapters so that he wouldn't have to write all those books?

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Someone could ride an eagle as high up as possible and use a slingshot from its back to get it the rest of the way

How else do you destroy metal you dumb faggot?
They tried fire it didn't work
I think it was gimli or another dwarf that tried breaking it with an axe and the axe shattered
And Gandalf can't do it
So if heat, kinetic energy and magic can't destroy it what exactly do you suggest you numbskull?
Gandalf and the elves decided the only way to destroy it was to destroy it with the original magic fire that created it and unless you have a method that doesn't include heat, brute force, or magic it looks like that's the only way you stupid homo
And if they threw it to the bottom of the ocean it'd make its way back too
Or did you forget the part where it was thrown in the water and two fishing hobbits found it
What an idiot you are really

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I love these threads. Idiots come up with the dumbest alternative suggestions and get btfo every time.

None of those options are anywhere near powerful enough to reach space
This has to be bait
You people can't be that stupid can you?

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I'm not sure. Can completely submerged metals erode? If they can, then that would happen over years and years. It would take centuries, but it would happen. If not, then some sea creature might manage. If dragons are on the land, then there's no reason similarly huge things can't exist in the water. They could swim by, get influenced, and help bring it up.
Gandalf had the whole journey to try what he wanted. If he thought the wizards could destroy it, he would've brought the Fellowship to Saruman so they could blast it together. Radagast and the Blue Wizards are a moot point, since Radagast is far weaker and the Blues were too far to the East.

A fucking hearth fire and an axe chop performed by an stumpy humanoid? Truly the upper limits of thermal and kinetic energy

They’re just pretending I hope. Anyway, as others have pointed out already, the real reason they needed to destroy the Ring is that it was the only hope to defeat Sauron. His armies would’ve won out had they just hidden the Ring.

It's a fucking ring, not a 1000 ton rocket

Are you guys implying that either of those could leave Earths orbit? If not, the ring just hangs out there until it gets hit by some space debris falling towards Earth and falls back down

This was glossed over in the movie but Gandalf did his research. 17 years passed between Bilbo’s party at the beginning and Frodo leaving the Shire. He said dragon fire could probably destroy the lesser Rings of power but only the fires where it was forged could melt the One.

What if they buried it deep in the ice in a glacier?
No animal could get it there and no man would go anywhere near it accidentally

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>‘Then,’ said Glorfindel, ‘let us cast it into the deeps, and so make the lies of Saruman come true. For it is clear now that even at the Council his feet were already on a crooked path. He knew that the Ring was not lost for ever, but wished us to think so; for he began to lust for it for himself. Yet oft in lies truth is hidden: in the Sea it would be safe.’‘Not safe for ever,’ said Gandalf. ‘There are many thing sin the deep waters; and seas and lands may change. And it is not our part here to take thought only for a season, or for a few lives of Men, or for a passing age of the world. We should seek a final end of this menace, even if we do not hope to make one.’‘

They could have used ionizing radiation to alter the atomic structure of the ring, causing it to become brittle.

Do you not realize fireworks and birds don't go anywhere near space
Mankind has literally never got anything at all into space until after rockets were invented
You stupid shit

but they have magic n shit

See . Hiding the Ring would’ve ultimately been pointless.

Not true. The first thing to be put into space was a manhole cover that was blasted away in an underground nuke test.
businessinsider.com/fastest-object-robert-brownlee-2016-2

Making the ring was what got him becoming powerful enough to become a threat to middle earth in the first place, but as time when on, his powerbase became stable enough to grow on its own.

OK, but could Gandalf or anyone else use like 90% of his power to forge another ring to dominate the One?

Even Saruman can't forge a ring of equal power.

Do they have guns?
No
So what are you proposing that is stronger than swinging an axe?
Ignoring the fact that the axe SHATTERED when hitting a regular stone table wouldn't have shattered a metal axe
Are they gonna shoot an arrow at it?
There's nothing else stronger medieval people can do than axes and arrows you simpleton
And with the fire they used the ring remained COLD clearly its immune to thermal energy
And then there's the fact that elrond and the numenorians already tried using a forge to melt it and magic and all other methods available
Hence why elrond said no craft they possessed could destroy it

ah yes, the nukes of middle earth, how could I forget

>user gets raped every day in elvish prison

We had rockets before nukes

The atmosphere is 12 kilometers high, and has temperatures going up to 1500 degrees Celsius (2700 F). No creature could survive the trip, and they can't launch it that high vertically.
You're telling me the only reason we need huge rockets to get to space is because of how much the huge rockets weigh? That we can just launch people into space with Middle Ages slingshots? You should work for NASA, you'd save them a shitton on the literal million gallons of rocket fuel it takes to get people into space.

There's literally nothing stopping them from making nukes. With magic it would be even easier than it is now.

A rocket didn't put the manhole into space.

the manhole reached space a few months before the first rocket reached space
get rekt

Please tell me how magic could be used to achieve nuclear fission

And your story is bs
io9.gizmodo.com/no-a-nuclear-explosion-did-not-launch-a-manhole-cover-1715340946

They could drop a huge boulder on it from a height great enough to achieve terminal velocity just off the top of my head, or stack a shitload of iron blocks or other heavy shit on top of it
It's like you're limiting your imagination just to avoid acknowledging that they didn't really exhaust their options before declaring the cause hopeless

Those ghost niggas could have got it for him

>terminal velocity is stronger than a swung axe with a cutting edge
Lmao what an idiot
And idk what makes you think those things would do anything to it
Let alone how they would set that up
When an axe gets shattered just by hitting it
Do you think the axe was made out of pottery?

Glaciers melt. And how, exactly, do they get it inside of a glacier in the first place?
No they couldn't. That's like saying they could've used pic related to melt it. Since when was ionizing radiation a thing in Middle Earth?
Yes, because wizard magic is famous for making extremely strong fireworks to launch rings into space.
Even if he could, he would need the fires of Mordor to forge it in.

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No one said anything about launching people

but niggers can't swim

None of those things are stronger than swinging an axe you dumb autist
And I'm pretty sure stacking
Iron on top of an iron ring wouldn't even destroy a real ring
I just Can't believe the stupidity I'm reading

But there's no ice creatures that would be able to dig deep enough into a glacier
And humans don't live in places that cold

Well, if we accept the fact that a slingshot can launch a ring into space then why can't a really big slingshot work for people? But it can't, because slingshots can't launch stuff into space

>idk what makes you think those things would do anything to it

I don't, the entire argument is about how they could know for absolute certain that nothing would work besides hellfire and I'm just spitballing things they could have tried such as heavy pressure

>believing a gawker article over an astrophysicist
All credibility lost.

>Since when was ionizing radiation a thing in Middle Earth?
Ionizing radiation isn't something people "invented" or "built" like the LHC.

The G forces would obviously destroy a human user

Because they're not stupid like you and have a good idea what destroys metal and wouldn't
Dropping a rock at terminal velocity wouldn't even destroy a regular ring come to think of it
Trying to cut it in half with an axe would however work if you hit it multiple times
And the point is elrond and all the elves and all the human armies already tried destroying the ring with everything they could think of
That's why they invaded mordor and tried to bring it there

can we hunt down and rape people who asks why a macguffin magic ring exists in a fictional fantasy movie?

No, but we had to harness it to actually use it. Water was always a thing, but we didn't always have high pressure water jets that could cut through steel. They didn't have the tech to. Even if they did, chipping at the ring wouldn't work. It would be like trying to erode it away with water, the rings magic would ignore any weak attempt. At the very least, anything weaker than hitting it with an axe would be useless.
Yes, but that wasn't my point. My point was that a slingshot can't launch a ring into space. Besides, launching a person into space would kill them anyway with or without G forces

Probably not without being corrupted which is what he wanted to avoid by destroying the One instead.

>Ring let's a nigga live on for 500 years by preventing his cells from deteriorating, a literal cornerstone of nature
>Turns solid matter invisible.
> Let alone immunity to the laws of nature

You absolute fucking idiot

can u guys stop talking about volcano shit and post more hot elves pls

Why didn't the ring fall over?

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