Was Harry Potter really any good?

Yes. A lot of tards take it way too far--same with Trekklies and Star-shit fans. But it was a pretty good series over all.

Books were good, yes. Not GREAT, but they did many things right.
I think SOME of the movies were good. It's hard for me to say, but at least the first 2 were goddamn magical. I have no idea about the rest. But they were worth it for one reason Rifftrax was amazing

> I think it started to fall apart around the fifth book or so, though, with the last book really rushing to wrap things up.
I agree it's good up till book 5, but the last book isn't rushing. It's DRAGGING things out.

Any minute now...

No piece of literature will ever reach the level of
global hype that Harry Potter reached and I can respect that even if I'm not particularly interested in it anymore.

What's going on with her leg? She is stretching her legs?

I got into the series after I watched the first movie in first grade. I read them all, waited for the midnight release and dragged my dad out for the 6th book. And by the time I had finished it I realized it was a hack job. I didn't buy the 7th. I haven't watched the last 3 movies, and I left the house when someone put on grindenwald. I outgrew Rowling by 10. Ignoring the holes in the story and the poor acting, it was trite and repetitive to put it nicely
Please stop discussing it. Do your book reports somewhere else

First two movies were prime comfy
The problem with the later movies is that the restrictive time format means trimming down all those comfy moments to get straight to the action

I was pretty surprised, though I shouldn't have been, reading the books after having watched the movies that despite everything that goes on, Hogwarts remains comfy far longer in the books
Going back to the movies afterwards I was disappointed how you lose a lot of those comfy moments post Chamber of Secrets, there's a constat t oppressive and moody atmosphere that makes even most moments that are light hearted feel heavy

I actually stopped reading and watching the films then, so I guess I agree

Total agreement. But the books hit a severe issue with book 5. Least comfiest shit know to man. Book 6 does regain it though. Book 7 clearly not.

Yes, I stopped reading after book 5. Then I got convinced to read 6, which I thought was ho hum. But the end of 6 was written in a way that I thought CHILDREN were dying and I LOVED it. Then I realized the kids were fine, Bill Weasley was the only one who got mauled. Cheap trick.

it only became popular because the author is a woman

"No!"

feet are crossed, leaning on the wall

There is a popular suggestion that JKR over uses the term 'stretched x legs' to tell the reader when a character goes for a walk.

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t. incel who had no friends growing up

In my opinion, Harry Potter was an early precursor/trend starter for YA series such as divergent, Maze Runner, etc, but it really is just one of the dullest franchises in the history of movie franchises. Each episode following the boy wizard and his pals from Hogwarts Academy as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Rowling vetoed the idea of Spielberg directing the series; she made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody?just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for her books. The Harry Potter series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-James Bond series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though r-right
"No!"
The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character went for a walk, the author wrote instead that the character "stretched his legs."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Rowling's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that she has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Harry Potter by the same Stephen King. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading Harry Potter at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Stephen King." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "Harry Potter" you are, in fact, trained to read Stephen King.

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What were you expecting?

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the books were insanely popular before it ever got a film deal.

it was all marketing and didn't take off until like the 4th one but still.

who is jenny

A lazy, soulless husk of her former self.

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At least the books are good

To put it simply, "No!"

However, it is a very entertaining film series for children. The books are also a decent foot in door for kids to get interested in reading. If you're watching any of the movies without a child being in the room, you're a woman and/or a pleb.

You are my absolute favourite user.

someone to white knight for Harry Potter probably.
I have doubt that its popularity was entirely organic, I think a lot of 2nd wave feminist librarians and school administrators pushed it on kids hard, but I'll admit, it has a lot of fans in the "literary chick" community

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Whether it is good or bad is debatable on whatever arbitrary rules you make. It certainly wasn’t artificially popular though.

What made Harry Potter so popular was the fact that kids didn’t care about the plot or characters but the setting itself. It was literally a faux going to college fantasy where someone day they will get a letter to go to the prestigious college and be swept into a world where they are the top athlete (harry with quidditch), the smart prodigy student (hermione), or the guy who is friends with people better than him (Ron). They even have faux fraternities you get placed into based on what the sorting hat thinks your personality would fit best in.

That’s why you always see stupid normies posting shit like “I thought I was going to get a letter to hogwarts!”

Oh, I wouldn't know I don't read this garbage.

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Yes, Harry Potter became popular through word of mouth, parents read it to their kids and discovered they enjoyed it too and told other parents about it. It was pre-internet and there was no advertisements for it, it was completely organic.

Says here. Its meme now

They’re enjoyable books for young people. The idea of kids at a magical academy is very appealing even nowadays. I see it in my video games.

I kept rereading each book dozens of times and I never feel the joy anymore of getting a new harry potter book.

But in hindsight I wish someone introduced me to LOTR a lot sooner

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I really don't remember any hype post 3 or 4.
The good shit was with the comfy first two films. And Azkaban had a lot of hype in Mexico because Cuaron.

But after that the hype only came back at the end because conclusions are important.

>tfw my mom's bible study convinced her that Harry Potter was satanic and it was banned in our household
>same with most video games, pokemon, etc

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I wish all the filthy beaners were range banned.

Harry Potter is gay yo

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Well they were right, thou shalt not suffer a witch to live

>Least comfiest shit know to man.
kek I remember feeling this very heavily as a kid when reading book five.

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The bottom of the barrel fat chick that the saddest incels from Yea Forums beta orbit.

the first few books were pretty comfy

>Living in the age of manufactured popularity has me wondering, was Harry potter even an interesting franchise?
Yes.
It was interesting for a time.
Books 1 to 3 are stellar examples of original world building in a children's and the series peaked with book 4, which sadly also marked the series getting more 'mature' and its decline.
That being said, there are countless other examples of of children's/young adult fiction that are even better than Harry Potter, for instance His Dark Materials.
Harry Potter just won the accessibility and timing lottery.

Why u so mad bro? Did she block you on twitter?

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Had some interesting world building, lots of neat concepts, and had some decent mysteries for kids. That said, the story declined heavily once Voldemort fully returned at the end of 4 (and would obviously pivot from intriguing yearly school adventures into typical good vs evil junk), and most of the world building doesn't hold up when you put much thought into it.

I wonder why it declined, was she rushed, did she force out more books than she planned?
she has a following on v? I guess now that shes a streamer she would

Agreed user. Though I quite like that this fantasy wizarding teen fiction series had such an eerie, gothic aesthetic to it. Goblet of Fire in film is absolute kino production music and set design. The scene when the underwater ship rose out of the lake- soul.

The first two Potter kinos are dope. The rest is pretty darn okay.

Congratulations! You're dumb.

I was rewatching the series with my girlfriend with the intent to make fun of this silly teen fic series only to be surprised that they were actually really fucking good. I hadn't seen em in years and was only really going off the cringy fanbase stuff and the rowling twitter bullshit but damn they were pretty good
Tho the later ones drop the ball pretty hard. OOTP was such a slog

>OOTP was such a slog
All of the books have serious pacing issues. With the exception of the last, they all have some mystery that's set up at the beginning, then there's a whole long middle section where the mystery is sidelined for school drama, only for the mystery to come back with a vengeance at the very end where everything is revealed and resolved in fast forward. The only real difference with the last one is that school drama is replaced with camping and making poor decisions.
I think all this just became more obvious with the later ones, when a hundred fifty pages of filler became five hundred pages of filler.

I was talking about the films but I agree about the books. Thankfully despite the differing book lengths the movies are all around the same length (2h30m) so you can thank the filmmakers for cutting down OOTP.
>only for the mystery to come back with a vengeance at the very end where everything is revealed and resolved in fast forward
Sounds like a scooby doo episode innit

her face really bothers me

>Living in the age of manufactured popularity has me wondering, was Harry potter even an interesting franchise?
Its popularity always seemed weirdly forced to me. I wouldn't really be all that shocked if there was some kind of conspiracy behind it. I mean, the first book became an international success almost instantly despite just being a slightly above average children's book. And Rowling herself kind of seems like an idiot. Which makes me think she and her "inspirational" personal story about nearly being homeless are just a front for some ghostwriter(s). It's also really weird how Harry Potter clearly stole a ton of ideas and story beats straight from other children's books like The Worst Witch and yet nobody seems to care

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IMO the films were what pushed it forward by far. Other teen fiction series like percy jackson have tried similar things only to blunder on being poor movies while the HP movies just managed to be good enough to carry themselves

can't --- coz she's ugly and so are you

She's cute, stop being gay!

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>he didnt go along with a trend
>he must be dumb

I always read this all the way through. It’s lethargic.

The first HP movies came out at the same time as LotR and I remember the general consensus was they were very mediocre by comparison.