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>we are not afraid
lel

The thing is he was afraid, he was shitting his pants when trump got elected and the guy he talking to murders him with his clown cult after terrorizing him

We are not afraid of Trump. We are worried about the damage he will do to our country. The funny thing is after more than a year of claiming Trump didn't inherit an improving Obama economy, when the #TrumpRecession hits Republicans will jump to blame Obama for Trump's economic incompetence

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>muh economy

Huh? Right now it's the only topic in which Trump is polling positive approval in. When the #TrumpRecession hits he'll be underwater in that too though. Also it's the topic that Republicans consistently say is the most important issue(The country as a whole says health care)

Any of them are superior candidates to Hillary, and since Hillary came so close, they could almost certainly beat Trump. Buttigieg > Warren > Biden > Harris

What's his tax policy?

fuck republicans, the most important thing was kicking out 20 milion ilegals and building the wall

>When the #TrumpRecession hits
They've been saying this since 2016. It hasn't hit and probably never will. The fundamentals of the economy is too good.

Which never even happened. What an absolute waste of time Trump was.

>cuts taxes, keeps spending at the same rates (so much for the fiscally responsible party)
>GDP growth continues to hover around 2-3%, same as under Obama
Cringe

he's not all powerful, not his fault that's how the goberment works
at least he tried

I don't believe he did.

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Kink

>breaks out of the TPP, the point of which was to contain china, rather than just renegotiating it
>breaks out of all agreements obama and past democrats made not because he thinks those agreements were bad (as if he even knows what they are), but solely because he hates obama

Uh oh...

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Obama's economy.

>superior candidates
>free healthcare for illegals
>gun ban
>more wars for the neocon deep state
>high taxes
>abolish ice and open borders
Rust belt whites find these ideas abhorrent

no one wants your corn beef amerimutt

>implying the president actually has anything to do with the economy never mind Trump who can barely write his name

oh man I sure hope this time is real and the real state crashes, then maybe I will able to afford some roof over my head

No it isn't. Trump INHERITED Obama's economy, which was steadily growing. But then he opened a trade war with China

It means nothing.

>pure and innocent
>Yea Forums
user, it hasn't been 2007 for 12 years now

The "free healthcare for illegals" is retarded, I grant you, and there's zero doubt they'll walk that back after the primaries are over.
>gun ban
Not trying to ban all guns. Just trying to put more stringent background checks in place.
>more wars for the neocon deep state
You're just making things up, there's been no talk of this.
>high taxes
For Medicare for All, which means no one would be paying for private insurance anymore, and with the government being able to dictate prices to pharma companies and hospitals a la Canada or even running hospitals themselves a la the UK's NHS, the total payment for healthcare would almost certainly go down.
>abolish ice and open borders
Cringe. No one's talking about abolishing the United States' borders. We're just against the ridiculous "immigration bad!" ideas pushed by the right.

this, he shouldve let china eat even more chunks of the worlds economy
fuck drumf

>Cringe. No one's talking about abolishing the United States' borders. We're just against the ridiculous "immigration bad!" ideas pushed by the right.
you already get 1 milion legal migrants, thats more than enough
and migrants are most of them non white and USA was a white founded country

It's still Obama's economy, idiot.

Or, well, it's his economy when things go right. :(

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It has predicted recessions with incredible accuracy before. Tell me how it means nothing

>that's more than enough
Says you. I don't see the harm in letting more people in. By all accounts, economists are generally on the side of increased immigration.
>and USA was a white founded country
Cringe. It's a globalized world we live in. You can't run from different ethnicities mixing together forever.

>We're just against the ridiculous "immigration bad!" ideas pushed by the right.

Cool. How do you propose dispelling this while also claiming to be against open borders?

I'm not sure growing the pool of the lower/middle class is going to help with wage stagnation in a globalizing market with steep competition already and growing separation from the upper echelon.

The backlash on tv to the election was really strange to watch. Like I remember that one sitcom starring the black guy from Kangaroo Jack did an entire episode where they just sat around the dinner table and talked about how horrible things were now. It was like people thought we elected Hitler and not just an opportunistic scammer with no real political convictions.

shut up faggots this is a comfy ahs thread

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>there's zero doubt they'll walk that back after the primaries are over.
kek so they basically lied. Trump has 2020 in the bag. He hasn't started any wars, millions of jobs added, reduced tax burden on families and is actually trying to enforce the immigration laws in the country. He is literally despite all his faults 1000x better than any dem candidate

>an opportunistic scammer with no real political convictions.
So basically Obama

so you want to be like brazil? kys pal

What was a better parody of the insanity of recent times, AHS Cult or the Gamergate episode of Law and Order?

>. By all accounts, economists are generally on the side of increased immigration.
yes of course, more consumers and less wages but how is that good for the common folk? what do you work on?

a trade war that obama started and trump will finish, yes

It is a fun word though

We just want to allow more people in. It shouldn't be uncontrolled, but this shit with multi-year waiting periods just to get temporary visas are ridiculous.

Of course they lied. Trump lies all the time, brainlet.
>He hasn't started any wars
Civilian death rates under Trump are higher than they were when Obama left office.
>millions of jobs added
The economy has continued improving at the same rates as under Obama, i.e. all Trump has managed to do is to not fuck it up.
>reduced tax burden on families
He reduced the tax burden on the rich much more than on the middle class. Oh, and what effects have his tax cuts had? Nil, the economy has continued along the same trajectory it was on before. What effects have his cuts had on wages? Oh right, nil. And how did he offset the tax cuts in the federal budget? Oh right, he didn't. In fact, he spent more, increasing the deficit after Obama had it going down year over year. So much for the party of fiscal responsibility.
>and is actually trying to enforce the immigration laws
To what end? Economists generally agree that immigration, even illegal immigration, is a slight net positive on the economy.

No. Cringe.

4channel is pure though

All of them beating Trump in the latest polls ;)

Oh now you're experts in economy? Guess what fuckface the president has little effect on the economy himself. You would know this if you actually understood economics

it should've been 8ch tbqh, since 4channel is just filled with harmless neets who are sad with their lives so they shitpost about politics all day.

what the absolute fuck is this chart

All of them support "assault weapons" bans

>We just want to allow more people in.

Why?

>but this shit with multi-year waiting periods just to get temporary visas are ridiculous.

Not really. That's how you vet potential citizens. I don't think lowering standards sets a good precedent for the perception of the people you want.

oh yeah the reliable polls
i still remember hillary at 98%
lol

>the economy has continued along the same trajectory it was on before.
Lies. Pic related

And the fact that you support illegal immigration just like your dem candidates proves without a doubt that Trump will win the rust belt again and 2020

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>Trump's Recession
>Obama's recovery
So do liberals not know about how the economy works?

le cringe

Still Obama's economy.

Sad stuff.

Economists estimate that illegal immigrations - all 12 million of them - have lowered wages for unskilled American workers (of whom there are about 25 million) by 0.4-0.7%. To repeat, that's 0.4-0.7%. And that's all you fucking retards can talk about.
>muh immigration
>muh wages
Are only down by 0.4-0.7%, and that's only for unskilled American citizens. Everyone else, the other 100 million people, are slightly benefited by the presence of illegal immigrants.

I know, you don't like how they're vaguely defining assault weapons, but I really have no problem with that. I don't see what purpose semi-auto weapons serve.

>Why?
Because it's the ethical thing to do. I know, conservatives don't believe in helping people, especially people who weren't lucky enough to be born here, but some of us do.
>Not really. That's how you vet potential citizens.
Oh, so you're saying they're spending years on end vetting someone, and that's why it takes so long, and it's all justified and the system's working perfectly. Right.

It was pretty absurd
>This was an event as impactful as 911
>The Russians have taken over the White House and attacked us
>Trump is calling Synagogues from the White House and harassing them
I remember a thanksgiving special on the news basically detailing how Trump ruined thanksgiving by dividing families. Now almost four years later Trump is basically saying the same shit, taxes are lower, everything is about the same.

But right above your post is something claiming it's Trump's Recovery

which is it?

You know most pistols are semi-autos right?
Also it's a bill of rights not needs.

AHS Cult because the parody was intentional

Wait, aren't you that schizo artfag?

Clarification, the "other 100 million people" should really say "other 100 million workers".

the dangerous 8chad (banned4beingtoochad)
vs the harmless 4chancel (50% of a real man, every normie knows about him)

BASED

public schools becoming zoos, entire neighbourhoods becoming ghettos, safe districts only afordable by milionaires, but hey, apple says they are increasing profits and we have all these new spicy food lmao

Likening Trump's victory to Palestinians protesting their genocide.

>we need more mexicans
I never got this

>Civilian death rates under Trump are higher than they were when Obama left office.
what new wars has Trump started you say?

lol is this liberal bitch ass nigga seriously typing up a passive aggressive essay no one is going to read?

This is 4channel, not your personal diary, bitch.

They seem pretty afraid to me, or else infinitych would still be up

democrats want more mexicans because they will vote democrat
they are against voter IDs too
that should tell you everything

>We're just against the ridiculous "immigration bad!"
fuck off, we’re full.
you just don’t like the people who already live here and you know it

>Everyone hates Yea Forums now
meh, everyone hates me offline, mind as well make it online as well

>public schools becoming zoos,
You have no idea. When the Obama administration came down hard on public schools for suspending minioties way too much a lot of schools turned into literal zoo/war zone.

Obama was such a piece of shit.

I'm shitty at art, so I don't think so.

>it's a bill of rights
To be clear, neither I nor almost anyone else on the left wants to flat out take away all guns unless the 2nd Amendment is actually repealed through the constitutional process. Second, let's look at the actual text of the 2nd Amendment:
>A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Convenient how conservatives forget all about the collective rights theory perspective on the amendment regarding the well-regulated militia part. It also doesn't say *what* firearms specifically - for example, if I had the money, is it reasonable that I be able to buy a tank and the rounds to use in it?

>public schools becoming zoos
So you're saying brown people are animals. Great.
>entire neighbourhoods becoming ghettos
That's not how you spell neighborhood. Fuck off, britbong. Fix your own country. Maybe we wouldn't have ghettos of poor people if we actually pushed for public education harder and fixed income inequality.

Say we have one President with a war in one country, and we get another President who starts wars in 10 new countries, but in all ten countries combined, he's only dedicating 5% of the forces the previous President was dedicating in one country, and fewer civilians in total are getting killed. Is the new President worse?

>lucky enough to be born here
no one is lucky to be born here or there, you are the result of your ancestors mating
you couldnt be born anywhere else from any other parents that the ones you had
usa was created by wasp people and once they are minority usa wont exist anymore

Not a chance. The Dem candidate will keep the states Clinton won. They are also very likely to flip Michigan & Pennsylvania(if Biden's the candidate PA isn't just 'likely' but a lock for the Dems). All they need is to flip Florida, Wisconsin or Arizona and the white house is theirs. Pic related is more probable than Trump winning re-election

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yes he is for implying more countries, also source on the civilians rate

>the /pol/ colonization project marches onward

Brazil is light-years ahead of us in their brap tech and Dragonball lore knowledge

LOL the delusion that Texas, Georgia, or Nevada would ever go blue is hilarious.

>Because it's the ethical thing to do
Nations aren't charities. We have charities for that.
Besides that, picking a few lucky people out of a world (7 billion minus US population, apparently) full of people living shitty lives doesn't do a thing except help you masturbate over your own altruism.

>usa wont exist anymore
this, mexican americans will always love and defend mexico first, the same with asians, pakis, africand and of course jews,

>collective rights theory
The supreme court has already ruled it as an individual right, this theory is trash and completely ignores the history behind the amendment's creation.

>It also doesn't say *what* firearms specifically - for example, if I had the money, is it reasonable that I be able to buy a tank and the rounds to use in it?
Yes, Paul Allen owned a bunch of them.
pewpewtactical.com/how-to-buy-tank/

Don't forget the literal slop that Michelle Obama forced schools to serve.

>Convenient how conservatives forget all about the collective rights theory perspective on the amendment regarding the well-regulated militia part. It also doesn't say *what* firearms specifically - for example, if I had the money, is it reasonable that I be able to buy a tank and the rounds to use in it?
>2A only applies to well regulated militia
>unironically using the "it was actually muskets" defense
Kek you're a fucking parody m8

Nevada is already blue for 11 years now... And Georgia & Texas are heavily trending blue.

Is this you by chance?

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all your buildings, paintings and monuments will rot once latinos become majority cause they dont see themselves as americans, cause they just arent
yet these liberal fagots try to portray a future mutt nation that still keeps the washington monument lmao

you conveniently avoided the part about most pistols being semi-auto to jerk yourself off about constitutional law.

>They are also very likely to flip Michigan & Pennsylvania
I'm actually very interested in seeing states like these vote for someone like Biden. Biden is soft on China. His son is basically a Chinese agent. And the Chinese hollowed out the industrial capacity of the rust belt using economic cheating. I doubt Trump will lose a single rust belt state. He might lose Florida though.

>they'll walk that back
They never walk anything back, ir's always full steam ahead on the dumbest ideas, which is the best explanation for their unpopularity.
>they don't want to seize guns
Of course they do, the current pattern is to eliminate due process and go to the French accusation system.
>background checks
Already exist, what they want is to bring in totalitarianism in the elimination of private sales.
Why do you think you can lie so baldly?

>fuck off, we're full
Saying something doesn't magically make it true.
>you just don't like the people who already live here
Let's not be putting words in my mouth. I just believe that relegating American prosperity to the few who were lucky enough to be born here isn't ethical. I have no problem with the people who live here now, nor do I prefer people who live in Mexico. I see them all as people, and hard as it may be for you to understand, I don't see one group as being better or worse than the other.

The point - whether you want to ascribe it to luck or causality -, putting semantics aside, is that *you* didn't choose to be born here. You didn't make it into America on your own merits.
>usa was created by wasp people
You're obsessed with categorizing people based on race. I'm not. That's the difference between us. You think that when I say "I'm not afraid of brown people and white people intermixing", I'm saying that it's a good thing that white people are becoming less dominant. I'm not. I just don't care, because I don't see different ethnicities as being especially different. Your us-vs.-them mentality will go by the wayside someday.

>yes he is for [invading] more countries
I don't see it that way. If you're killing fewer people, that's a win, hands down.
>source on the civilians rate
The numbers I've seen were actually number of drone strikes, not civilian death rates, so excuse me. I've seen these numbers thrown around a few times and I'm sure I could find you a source if you wanted:
>During Mr Obama's eight years in office, 1,878 drone strikes were carried out, according to researchers. Since Mr Trump was elected in 2016, there have been 2,243 drone strikes. The Republican president has also made some of the operations, the ones outside of war zones, more secretive. As a result, things have different today: under Mr Trump, there are more drone strikes - and less transparency.

Reminder an investigation is now underway into Biden's relationship with chinese companies.

>NYT source
BIG THINK

No because I knew the pendulum was swinging towards the Republicans as Obama's term was up. Hillary being underwater in her favorability rating gave Trump a big chance of winning, and he did. But this time, the pendulum is swinging back. Just like Obama underperformed in 2012, Trump will underperform in 2020. But Obama could afford to win by a smaller margin, while Trump won 2016 by a hair.
In short, say goodbye to the white house.

>You didn't make it into America on your own merits.
I made it into America based on my family. Are you denying the concept of inheritence? Are you denying the concept of culture? Of genetics? People in shitty nations are descended from shitty nation-builders, and carry that baggage with them wherever they go.

Bruh if you really think fucking Texas and Georgia are going to go for a democrat over Trump I don't know what you're smoking.

>Hillary
>underwater in favorability rating
Backpedaling, considering (seemingly) every fucking poll showed her winning by significant margins. Also keep in mind that the democrats are well known for voter fraud, which is why they're so anti-Voter ID. Shit, take out all of the illegals from California alone, Hillary would have lost the popular vote.

There's literally nothing wrong with wanting voter ID requirements

he hasn't accused anyone of working for the russian CIA yet so he cant be

I didn't say they WILL. I said it's more probable than Trump winning re-election.

>If you're killing fewer people, that's a win, hands down.
no its not, not all people are equal, 10 italians are worth more than a thousand blacks

leftists literally burn the flag and they are mostly americans, they cant have power, never

>Saying something doesn't magically make it true.
The real issue is that even accepting 1 million immigrants a year puts us at an exponential rate of population growth, which I'm sure even you can agree is unsustainable.
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Saying that nations aren't charities kind of distracts from the issue. We're self-governing and we consequently have the power to make our own decisions. I think that we should make ethical decisions. You don't; that's fine.
>picking a few lucky people out of the world
Give me a break - you don't think we should be out there trying to help the rest of the world. We do.

They ruled it as an individual right in 2008. They ruled it as a collective right in 1939(?). The unfortunate reality is that the writers were too vague, leaving the SCOTUS to rule on what should be a clear-cut issue differently at different points in time.
>and completely ignores thee history behind the amendment's creation
I can only guess you're referring to its creation to defend against authoritarianism by the national government. I don't see how that contradicts collective rights theory.

Kek you're a fucking parody m8
Not an argument.

No, you're right. The way forward on firearm regulation is complicated, more complicated than politicians like to make it out to be. There's still clearly some path that can be taken that will mean some form of increased regulation. You conveniently ignored everything else I said in response to your point.

t. retarded zoomer. Democrats and Republicans always take extreme positions during primaries and flip flop on them during the general election.
>Of course they do
It's very clever how you can just say things and they're magically true without you having to provide evidence.

This is the actual source: thebureauinvestigates.com/projects/drone-war

And what credit do you deserve for the decisions of your ancestors? That's my entire question, and I'd appreciate a straight answer. Justify it.

Cringey deflection from the point I was making.

She beat Trump in the polls(and indeed, the popular vote by 2 points), and not in significant margins. There were large margins during the campaign but near election day it was close because of Comey betraying her.
I'm not talking about Trump vs. Clinton polls, I'm talking about Clinton's favorability ratings. Both Trump & her were in the negatives, and this gave Trump a window for winning.
As for your "illegal vote" conspiracy theory, save that for Fox News

>The point - whether you want to ascribe it to luck or causality -, putting semantics aside, is that *you* didn't choose to be born here. You didn't make it into America on your own merits.
the ancestors did, Im not american, Im spanish and USA is a white country, whites build it, not blacks, not indians, not asians, not south europeans, but north europeans, anglos to be exact
their language, their culture, their art, that's USA, an independent british country with grecoroman, christian past.
Mexico is shit, USA put the man on the moon by being majority white and it should be maintained that way
One mexico is more than enough

>Your us-vs.-them mentality will go by the wayside someday.

Not in the next few centuries. Things stand in state relative to their antithesis, ex: us v. them.

Even you operate via us v. them; whether you will accept it is unknown.

Pretty sure this qualifies as spam

our ancestors did what they did so that we could live better lifes, not worse

give trump a chance, obama didnt start any new wars until his second term.

drumpf has still objectively droned more people in just his 1st

A few leftists sometimes burn the flag because they disapprove of what the government is doing.
>free speech bad!

What credit do you deserve for the decisions your ancestors made?

>Even you
Then to me, who is the 'them'? I believe that anyone who believes in the principles America was founded on - democracy and the Constitution - should be welcome in America.

>he wrote too much, my head hurts!

That's not really my question. I'm asking what credit *you* deserve for their decisions.

IM MAD I NEED TO BE CONTRARIAN NOW AND VOTE PARTY LINE DEMOCRAT IN THE NEXT ELECTION SO THAT WE WILL BUILD A WALL OR SOMETHING

I WANT TO WATCH 40 MORE HOURS OF ANIME RATHER THAN KNOW WHAT ACTUALLY IS HAPPENING IN THE WORLD LIKE HOW MANY OBAMA JUDGES AND PELOSI JUDGES STOPPED THE WALL FROM LITERALLY BEING BUILT

ITS ALL TRUMPS FAULT FOR NOT TRYING I GUESS

>he wrote too much, my head hurts!
No, because you're doing these massive replies and attention whoring.

>we're
lmfao nigger has made politics a part of his personal identity

>government being able to dictate prices
This doesn't lead to prosperity or even success.

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>And what credit do you deserve for the decisions of your ancestors? That's my entire question, and I'd appreciate a straight answer. Justify it.
Oh, shit, I didn't realize you were a literal communist.

Seething

The 'we're' I'm referring to are liberals.

Funny, it's worked for Canada, the UK, etc.

credit? Im their descendant so Im entitlighed to what they created, the same way my kids will inherit my home
nations are bigger families, they arent a corporation runing for profit

Calm down m8, you're having a mental breakdown

Still not answering the question.

I know that's how inheritance legally works, and them moving here certainly gives you the right to live here. I'm questioning why you seem to think it makes you *better* than people whose ancestors didn't choose to move here.

Reminder than an incumbent president hasn't lost an election since Bush Senior, and he lost because of the exceptional change in circumstances between his first and second campaign, ie the cold war ending.
Without something truly exceptional happening Trump will likely win. It's just how things are.

Have sex

not better but this is my world's parcel, not theirs, they have their own nationuilt by their own ancestors dont they?

I find it highly unethical to utilize people from Nation A to benefit people from Nation B. Especially since we live in a world of limited resources. It's funny because I bet you'd say slavery was wrong too.

>Bush Senior, and he lost because of the exceptional change in circumstances between his first and second campaign, ie the cold war ending
And Ross Perot eating away 19% of the vote. But to this day Dems are talking about 'muh no new taxes'

>the asshurt commie ITT
Oh no no no no no

>Funny, it's worked for Canada, the UK, etc.
And India simply pirates drugs wholesale at the national level. It doesn't matter. These are hanger-on's to the US's success.
Remove profit motive from the US and everyone downstream will suffer as the US's healthcare degrades.

>my groupthink is ok
have you ever had a unique thought in your life or do you just repeat what """"""your"""""" side say?

At what point do you draw the line on the idea of the family? Should all babies be sent to some communal, state-run facility to be raised equally so we can avoid any unfair advantages from the circumstances of their births?

Dilate

Matchup polls of the incumbent vs. the opposing party's primary candidates don't usually have the opposing candidate beating the incumbent by double digits.

And why can't it be theirs too? Look mate, I'm just asking you to fundamentally question why the idea of inheritance works the way it does. Why should people be given credit for things they had nothing to do with? My point is that - apart from your ancestors' decisions, which you didn't make - you have no more intrinsic right to be here than Pablo from Guatemala.

Central Americans want to come here, and as I've already pointed out, their presence is a slight net boost on the economy.

Nice theory, no evidence.
>India
I didn't bring up India.

The reason I sided with liberals in the first place is because I came to the conclusion (on my own) that their ideology is 90% correct.

>burn the flag because they disapprove of what the government is doing.

are they retarded? the flag means more than some politics,

>you don't think we should be out there trying to help the rest of the world. We do.

The US shouldn't be the nanny to the world, or the charity to the world. I've no idea where the idea it should be either came from when it still has internal issues that seemingly don't get addressed -- like the massive issue of stagnating wages.

I mean, if you want to help the world with your own money, that's fine; I think a lot of people would rather the collective money go to fixing things that impact them directly, like infrastructure.

Again, the US shouldn't be the nanny for the planet. No one expects China to do so; no one expects the majority of nations on the planet to do so; only the US is seen as the open-purse for everyone.

Canadian here. The reason why we have low drug prices is because American drug companies make most of their money off the American citizens while other nations like Canada, UK and etc pay the drug at very low rates. Americans literally subsidize the healthcare of other nations. Just an FYI

>Nice theory, no evidence.
The survival rates of pretty much every lethal disease. America is better at it.
>I didn't bring up India
I brought it up because it's a clear cut example of the USA > Then everyone else pipeline. India doesn't honor IP law for drugs / medicine in general. While not ever example is as clear cut as this it's still a good example.

>Not trying to ban all guns. Just trying to put more stringent background checks in place.

really now

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>Based Americucks paying for my medication
God Bless America, am I right?

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Americans don't want Central Americans to come here.

That's pretty much the exact point I was making with
>remove profit motive from the US and everyone downstream will suffer
The drug companies benefit from IP law in America and the other market regulations to prop up corporate profits. Because of that entire nations can negotiate prices or even ignore US IP law completely and the big pharma companies end up in no danger whatsoever.

yes I do, pablo from guatemala ancestors didnt fight the brits

Exactly. I liked what Trump said he would do, and he's done NONE of it. Get this fake fuck out and get Yang in and give me $1000 a month. Fuck you.

>Matchup polls of the incumbent vs. the opposing party's primary candidates don't usually have the opposing candidate beating the incumbent by double digits.
Well, what do you know

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In and of itself, the flag doesn't mean anything, and conservatives latching onto it like it does is ridiculous. The Constitution is the core of America and it's what fundamentally matters.

>or the charity to the world
Not to our own detriment, but like I've pointed out several times in this thread and cited evidence to support, illegal immigration doesn't hurt us, and I've read conclusions from several economists suggesting that there's room for increased immigration. I also think we could help the world *and* prevent ourselves from getting embroiled in future conflicts by pointing the developing world in the right direction.
>No one expects China to do so
Because China's a corrupt dictatorship that doesn't respect human rights. And I think you're misunderstanding; I don't "expect" the US to do anything. I think we *should* try to get the rest of the world developed.

>The survival rates...
That doesn't really support the argument you were making.
>I brought [India] up because it's a clear cut example of the USA > Them
India's still a developing nation. Show me a developed country that uses socialized medicine where it doesn't work.

Show me actual statements from candidates saying they'll enact mandatory buybacks, and of what weapons.

I'm an American and I don't care whether or not the grocer at King Soopers is white or latino.

And you deserve credit for your ancestors fighting the Brits? Did you fight the brits?
I have to go in a minute here, but I just want to recap that my question in this thread has been: why do people who were lucky enough to be born here deserve to live here more than people who were unlucky enough to be born elsewhere? and all I've gotten in response has been "you don't like inheritance laws, commie!" instead of actual justifications.

>Give me a break - you don't think we should be out there trying to help the rest of the world. We do.

lmao. finnfag here, not everyone gives a shit about altruism and solidarity toward homo sapiens and you cannot expect the majority of people out there to be okay with that, especially since we are born into a system where we cannot allocated our tax money into the areas we choose. if people could choose, i would expect immigration would get far less than currently allocated in every country.

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>graph dips a little bit
>everyone says "that's the death graph! the dip is evil!"
>everyone sells
>everyone selling crashes market
>recession
>"the death graph did this!"
I don't think anyone should be able to trade stocks except me

>Show me a developed country that uses socialized medicine where it doesn't work.
You seem to be terrified that I'm trying to equate India's quality of care with socialized medicine's efficacy as a whole. If you read my posts that's not the argument I'm making at all.
What I am illustrating is that entire states outside of the USA benefit directly from the prevailing healthcare regime. Cheap negotiated, subsidized, or even third party unlicensed clones of drugs and other medical techniques exist in these nations because they existed first in the USA.

>the commie is still spamming the thread

>Show me actual statements from candidates saying they'll enact mandatory buybacks

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>We do.
You tried that. You keep trying it. Libyans aren't grateful. Neither are Syrians.

>In and of itself, the flag doesn't mean anything,
so its ok to burn it because the constitution is more important, you are so disconnected from reality

Jesus this user can't seem to get anything right

imagine actually believing that fighting for pedophilia and sodomy make you heroic

>You conveniently ignored everything else I said in response to your point.
I’m not who you were arguing with, I just wanted to call you out for avoiding their point.
I agree there has to be a more nuanced way to limit guns than “semi auto” which hits too many types

>. Why should people be given credit for things they had nothing to do with?
It's not about giving credit
Generations of people in this country worked their whole lives with the intent of providing for their children and their childrens' children
What gives you the right to decide that what those millions of people wanted over hundreds of years doesn't matter

>/vip/
lel

>amerimutt telling others to fix their country

People seem to forget that trump lost the popular vote by the largest margin of any president who won the election. He is by definition the least popular president ever elected, and I agree that the any pendulum effect will probably be enough to lose him 2020.

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>He is by definition the least popular president ever elected
Technically that isn't true, but in the 2 party system yeah you're right

But who do you think he's going to lose against? Biden isn't going to have the backing of the hardcore Democrats, nobody who voted for Trump is going to vote for Harris or Warren. Trump's going to win again by losing less than everyone else, again.

>Americans unironically believe in their politicians
Is there a more easily brainwashed people than clapistanians?

None of the democratic nominees for 2020 are half as bad as Hillary, and she still won the popular vote. I'm kinda hoping for Yang v Trump 2020 for the memes

Did you just say I believed in Hillary Clinton?

Listen here you little shit...

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