2019

I didn't hate it. I was just disappointed by it.

Obviously, it was really fucking bad

It's not a bad movie, it's just a horrid Star Wars movie. If it didn't have the SW name, people would say it's brilliant. Take out the lightsabers;et al and it's a generic modern space wars flick.

Solo is still the best Disney Wars film-and it's set during the Empire's height. Comfy.

the plot is still a nonsensical mess and half the characters have no arc but sure man

It's about half of a good movie. Rian is better suited for TV because he is only about to write 40-60 minutes of good material. I can imagine him being a Joss Whedon-ish showrunner, complete with obnoxious quippy dialogue.

TFA was ten times worse in retrospect. I'm honestly glad ruin Johnson shit all over jewjews mystery box plot that had no outline for the trilogy

>If it didn't have the SW name, people would say it's brilliant.
What the fuck man, the movie was fucking garbage

no it wasn't

As I have matured and grown more intelligent I hate it more than ever. It's the kind of movie where each rewatching reveals more depth of stupidity. Whereas each rewatching of a Kubrick movie reveals more subtle layers of genius, Rian Johnson's movies only reveal lower levels of his extremely low IQ.

you can like it but its still an objectively shit movie

That user has it backwards. If it didn't have the Star Wars name the ST would have gotten the Jupiter Ascending treatment

You can like anything you want. Some people like Twilight, some people unironically like the Spice Girls movie. That doesn't make those movies good. This is objectively a shit movie but people have always liked shit movies.

This has always been the correct take. TFA was phoned-in garbage that shat all over Star Wars. Rian tossing out Snoke like an afterthought was heroic (and funny)

Nah, in retrospect TFA was derivative but consistent with the earlier movies. TLJ was just garbage by any standard. It's the worst of the SW movies and a bad movie as a standalone treatment. It doesn't hold up by any standard. There is nothing positive to say about it except some pretty CGI in certain shots because they did work with a talented effects team who unfortunately wasted their lives and potential working on bottle tier trash.

>/pol/ buddy man
it's just a shit film get over it

>get over it
/pol/ certainly can't.

Crazy how right you are.

Solo by virtue of being a simply told, entertaining film is actually the best of them

>Nah, in retrospect TFA was derivative but consistent with the earlier movies.
PLEASE kill yourself, I'm begging you. It was the most inconsistent with the original films it could possibly be. All character arcs reset, the universe reset back to square one and whole bunch of questions about wtf happened in the last 30 years that the creator had no intention of ever answering.

TFA is the root of the problem, people won't acknowledge it because it's still better than TLJ but none of this shit would even be happening if TFA wasn't a literal reboot of the OT. JJ deserves most of the blame, not Rian Johnson.

Or the valerian treatment

TFA was perfectly consistent with OT. TLJ was degenerate tier brainlet trash. Anyone who likes it should genocide themselves in a homemade gas chamber.

This movie is horrible. Please don't tell me people on this board legit enjoy it.

This is probably the most pathetic thread I've ever seen.

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>TFA was perfectly consistent with OT.
Just repeating your 100% false statement doesn't make it true. What TFA did is make everything that happened in the OT pointless

>If it didn't have the SW name, people would say it's brilliant.
No way.

Imagine still defending a shit movie in a children's franchise

>Just repeating your 100% false statement doesn't make it true.
That's what I'm telling you, Rian. Literally no one likes TLJ. Not even you. When you're drunk in these threads at least you're honest about your own failures. Just admit you fucked up and you didn't understand Star Wars when you wrote your terrible script.

I love it. The internet fan shitstorms can finally end interest in this franchise.

What makes you think I'm defending TLJ? It's complete trash too, I'm just telling your stupid ass that TFA was shit and it was inconsistent with OT from the beginning.

It has turned to strong apathy with me. I never ever ever want to see it again. Just get it away from me, thanks.

TFA was 100% consistent with OT because it's literally a beat for beat rehash. You can't get anymore consistent.

Yep. Can't hold a candle to Lucas' films, but the best SW film Disney made for sure.

Actually this.

How can history repeating itself be 100% consistent with the OT?

it's a really bad nonsensical movie

>repetition isn't consistent
m8, rethink your life

I still hate it. And I mine my own salt on the regular to keep me hating it. I've seen TFA once, TLJ once and will just watch webins for TRS. I hate Dinsey-Wars so much that I intentionally make myself angry about it.

I hope you’re just shitposting because that’s a truly pathetic existence.

>2019
>still defending this movie

lol, I'm done trying to reason with you, brainlet. One last attempt to get through to the single brain cell in your head:
Yes it is a rehash of Episode 4. But it's Episode 7. It's a continuation of the story after Return of the Jedi. So resetting everything back to how it was in Episode 4 and doing all over again while ignoring everything that happened in the OT (particularly Episode 6) is completely inconsistent with the story.

How can something be objectively bad?

You're not unallowed to not like anything you retard. You can feel whatever you want.

>2017
>even pretending to like this movie

Unlike the prequels that gathered a cult following a decade down the pipeline this will forever be a reviled piece of ass for all eternity.

I liked it at first, but the more I think the more I dislike it

Rian Johnson is a very capable visual director who can create some striking images. As soon as his greasy nubby fingers start typing away at a screenplay, all hope of that film being good is lost. The combo of "looks good but it's shit" will be the same for Knives Out, no doubt about that.

no one will answer you because it's not possible
"objectively bad" is just a retarded buzzword

You clearly don’t remember how people felt about the prequels. History will repeat.

>the same thing isn't consistent
holy retard.
It can be written by Rian Johnson.
RJ should have been a director of photography. He can compose shots but he can't write or direct actors.

This. Zoomers who grew up with prequels now like them unironically. George Lucas predicted that. But unfortunately even kids are smart enough to hate TLJ. No one will ever like it because it's just bad.

lol even when it's explained to you in simple english you still don't understand. Maybe english is your second language and you think "consistent" means something else. Whatever the case, you are a moron.

if a story purports to make sense and it doesn't, it's objectively bad. There is no subjectivity to be had in the question "does x make sense?", it either does or doesn't. If your movie isn't a surrealist or absurdist movie, it should make sense, and any occasion where it doesn't is an objective failing.

>the same thing isn't consistent
Third time's a charm. Does your tiny brain get it yet or will it take more schooling from your intellectual superiors?

I didn't like it for a long time, but it finally all clicked once I realized that Rey has been a sith spy from the very start.

I don't hate it but it's worse than mediocre and I would rather it didn't exist.

I don't hate it, it's just a bad movie.

>hurr durr facts are subjective

>still hating this movie
You're not alone, OP. It's 2019 and I'm still hating it too.

I don't care about this shit anymore. Not worth hating, not worth watching.

Shit writing and self-contradictory themes that go literally nowhere, a meandering, ultimately pointless story that not only breaks the conventions of its setting, but also common sense application of the physical laws those conventions are there to address in the first place. TLJ has all these qualities.

If you were watching a Western and after having being held at gunpoint and seeking cover from gunfire, the protagonist just stood flat-footed bouncing bullets off his chest and no character, not even him, finds it odd or even remarks on it, you'd call that bad writing and a bad film - objectively - and you would be correct.

I will hate it for ever.

Did /pol/ produced and directed this movie? I didn`t know that...

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>“This is how we win finn! Not by destroying what we hate, but saving what we love!”
Star “WARS” alright!

>seething frogkike

I haven't seen it. I find it amazing how controversial it is, when TFA was just plain shit. TLJ must be some next level bad.

So Goblin 2 is not an objectively bad movie. Good to know.

Time didn't make it better. It's still laughably bad

>hate this movie
This was a horrid star wars movie...

I love how people think it’s cool to be contrarian.

It had a few interesting ideas but then that doesn't mean shit because having interesting ideas is easy, making them good is the hard part and it utterly failed at it.

>2 minutes later
>enemies smash gate with the weapon Finn would have destroyed
>only saved because by random coincidence there's an escape cave no one knew about but somehow Rei landed there and had exactly enough room on her ship to save the same number of people who were in the cave
How does writing work?

Hate would imply I spend energy criticizing it. This is one of those films you pretend don't exist

With Rian style you literally shove you finger up you asshole and whatever shit comes out gets called “plot”