How do these universes make any sense?
How do these universes make any sense?
What do you want to know? Are you implying these happen in the same universe?
No I mean I understand that they're conceived as the future from the 70's/80's idea of what the future might be like, but beyond that I don't get how their society is supposed to hold together.
Money and greed. Same as now.
Maybe it is that simple. But then how do you bring Replicants and Xenomorphs into this universe cohesively? It just seems like a huge breakaway from the realism of the setting.
what is the xenomorph's tax policy?
Ask China.
They dont. Ridley Scott is an amazing world builder but kind of a story hack.
>Replicant and Androids are same thing
Whoopdeedoo
It's annoying because I wish there was a cohesive way to mix the narratives together.
How do they not?
>but beyond that I don't get how their society is supposed to hold together.
Go look up the current state of United States. A literal fucking clown is running things. If that's possible, then so is Alien and Blade Runner universe.
Replicants are specialised vat-grown labour used off-world in places where sending humans is too expensive of politically unviable. Its the same today with most manufacturing and chemical handling except you send it to Asia where human lives are cheap.
Aliens are just aliens. What else is there to be had?
HOLY FUCKING BASED
They do happen in the same universe...
In movies, evil corporate overlords are badass. Real life turned out much, much worse.
yikes
They are in the same universe though.
Corporate-military dictatorship, aka fascism.
Next.
Can you be more specific?
What is it that doesn't make sense to you?
I figured it out. It is because both take pace in act-1 and 2, but end at the start of act-3, so the films end before you can start to question how retarded everything is.
You're not making much sense.
We can't read your mind, write it, then try to think from an outside perspective and see if what you wrote makes sense.
Okay this is what I mean:
Films have narrative structures.
1 - Introducing the world and characters.
2- You know who the good and bad guys are, and they start becoming aware of each other
3 - The good and bad guys clash idealogically and sometimes physically, this becomes repetitive, with the stakes being raised each time they face off.
4 - Finally a decisive move is made by both sides, which has major consequences that change the status quo forever.
5 - Either the good or bad guys win. The end.
I'm saying that Alien and Blade Runner only operate in Act 1 and Act 2.
ALIEN:
Act 1: The crew are led to discovering the alien
Act 2: The alien starts killing each crew member
Act 2.1: Ripley kills the alien
--the film ends here--
(the sequels are act 3, 4, 5...)
In Blade Runner
Act 1: Deckard roped into the case and he meets Rachel for the first time, starting their romance
Act 2: Deckard kills the replicants, and finally meets his match against Roy Batty.
Act 2.1: Deckard decides to protect Rachel and go on the run with her, inspired by the mercy he received from Roy Batty, and his love for Rachel. Also he realises he is also a replicant.
--film ends here--
(Act 3 would be them on the run with other blade runners coming after them, 4 and 5 would deal with the outcome).
/fuckin thread
/unthread.exe
Aah, let's see if I can answer it then.
With Ripley the problem was the alien, they solved it and she is on her way to a rescue, what more would you want? That's the climax, anything more and it might ruin the pacing.
Yeah I agree. But by finishing the plot at act 2.1 is doesn't explore the ideas of what the alien is, or who ripley is, but instead presents a no-frills dynamic narrative struggle between an evil alien entity and a crew of individuals trying to survive (with one schemer). As a writer I think the idea is to given the reader more character and story for their dollar, but in the case of Alien and Blade Runner, less narrative acts is far more.
The sequels prove that the same timelessness can't be captured in a continuation of the film's narrative ideas.
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I can answer Blade Runner because it's fucking great.
1. Dystopian world is introduced
2. Replicants are bad because they kill people, Deckard is good because he kills replicants
3. Deckard hunts for the replicants, who in some ways act like people
4. Deckard kills the replicants, and in Roy's "tears in rain" monologue, Deckard is flipped into being the antagonist because he's hunting people who just want to live lives
5. Deckard is the bad guy. He wins but is changed forever
>thinking a director writes the film
>director still has to read the script
Well Blade of Runner wants to be a slice in this world's life, not just tell you everything about it, is about the small scale.
Yeah there are act structures within act structures. But knowing the macro and micro act structures makes a huge difference. Good post though.
They tax the bonuses gained from the bonus situations.
>drumpf is a clown!
>hes orange and has tiny hands!