>hold on let me just attack the USSR for no reason at all real quick
Hold on let me just attack the USSR for no reason at all real quick
>no reason
based retard
Not because they're diseased subhuman rat people?
An absolute retard. Why did he think he could direct the military better than his generals?
>Germans are the best race!
>Hold on, let me do a shitload of drugs to deal with all my chronic health issues
Was there one? The Nazis had a fucking treaty with the USSR. If they'd remained nonconfrontational until they'd defeated Europe, they might've had a chance later on when they could throw their full military weight at them.
Funny how those subhuman rat people defeated your Aryan master race.
>hitler we are going to be surrounded at stalingrad and everyone will die if we don’t retreat
>HUUURRRR BUT THE ILL LOOK LIKE I MADE A MISTAKE JUST LET THEM DIE LOL
i will always love the nazis solely for how intense and absurd they were, for as boring as a lot of life is, they turned shit up to 100 so fast and so hard, absolute madmen, they knew what they wanted and went out to get it, even if it killed them. thats all i care to say and my thoughts don't go anywhere else concerning their success or morality, i admire them for their intensity. come at me discord trannies
>WHAT THE HELL DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE SURROUNDED, OUT OF FOOD, AMMUNITION AND LITERALLY FREEZING TO DEATH I DONT CARE PAULUS YOU CANT JUST SURRENDER, HERE HAVE THIS USELESS PROMOTION AND THEN KILL YOURSELF.
>MEIN FUHRER IF WE MOVE THE TANKS TO NORMANDY-
>NO
Germany was in dire need of oil, which the USSR had plenty of. Hitler also (correctly) suspected that the USSR was planning to eventually attack Germany and again, correctly, surmised that the sooner he attacked, the better his chances were.
He knew that once they'd lost the Battle of Britain, this war was going to drag on and Germany would inevitably lose a war of attrition, simply because they lacked the resources, and possibly get invaded by the Russians in the meantime.
>y’all mind if I attack everybody around Germany, like literally in all directions
>hmmm ok but we’re gonna need some allies
>ok, the Japanese
>alright
>and... the Italians
ohhhh nononono
The USSRs goal was International Socialism.
They wanted complete control over Europe and for the entire world to become communist, conflict with anyone that opposed that was inevitable.
>Hitler also (correctly) suspected that the USSR was planning to eventually attack Germany
god the times i have seen nazitards use this stupid argument...
Nigga streiht up lost the war hahahahah and he killed himself lmfao
Didn't Hitler order his generals to hesitate after they took Stalingrad rather than immediately marching on Moscow?
That was Lenin's and Trotsky's goal, brainlet. Stalin was a bigger fan of socialism in one country. Granted, he spread the sphere of socialism to Asia and Eastern Europe in his later years, but my point is just that defeating Europe should have been a higher priority for Hitler than launching a nigh unwinnable assault on the USSR.
Yeah I'm sure the largest Marxist state in the world would be overjoyed as they watched a fascist state take over Europe. They totally wouldn't eventually take some sort of action, especially if they saw Germany starve themselves in a stalemate with the UK.
he even wore the same dumb ass hat the whole time lmaaaoooooo
>Not because they're diseased subhuman rat people?
Germans? Sure.
>Was there one? The Nazis had a fucking treaty with the USSR. If they'd remained nonconfrontational until they'd defeated Europe, they might've had a chance later on when they could throw their full military weight at them.
Hitler's entire ideology was based on hating socialism. 100x more than the Americans hating it. Half the reason Nazis disliked Jews was because so many of them were socialists.
Also, spending several years fighting most of Europe, while Stalin gets to do nothing but build more tanks and planes the whole time would have been suicide.
Yes. Von Bock could have taken Moscow in August but Hitler ordered him to turn around and help the infantry in destroying the encircled Soviet armies. Of course its impossible to know what would have happened if von Bock had taken Moscow, whether he would be able to hold it, whether that would result in a Soviet capitulation. For all we know it'd be just another "6th Army in Stalingrad".
His charisma and ambition was amazing, and he even knew how to work the base level politics to get the unwashed masses on his side, but he lacked the military mind to see it all through.
He grew too paranoid at the end, disregarding lots of sound advice in fear of personal safety.
He'd already killed himself long before he pulled the trigger.
>hates socialism
>calls party national socialists
More accurately, he hated Marxism. Most socialists, then and now, are marxists, even though socialism predates Marx and his ideology.
Iirc it was Drexler who renamed it to that
And attacking Russia while he was fighting Europe and America was suicide too. He was a retard and should have surrendered.
I wonder how possible it would have been for him to form a long term truce with the USSR rather than attacking it all. On one hand, Stalin was a socialism-in-one-country kind of guy. On the other hand, a Nazi Europe would have been in shambles and would be easy to conquer for a rested USSR. On the third hand, defeating a Europe united under one flag, even though it just came out of a war, would have been a risky bet, especially with the US still at its full strength.
It's well documented that the Nazis spent their first few years persecuting socialists and communists. 'Socialists' being in their name was largely irrelevant to their actual goals.
I mean he had reasons, they were just completely retarded and the result of a progressing comedy of errors.
>Haha Slavs are dumb, fuck commies, right Heinrich?
>God, my super cool National Socialist state is so badass, look at how quickly we militarized, who knew you just needed to throw money at a military to make it strong? Especially when you violate treaties you only just signed!
>hah, take that, Jew. Capital flight? Who cares, as long as we can nationalize everything (except when certain tycoons pay us a lot to not have that happen)
>God, we're the envy of the world. Look at our economic recovery
>Oh shit, our exports aren't doing so well now. Our goods aren't in demand and we keep getting internationally boycotted.
>Well, well we have a surplus of raw materials, right? W-we don't need to import anything, do we?
>Oh... We do? Uhh... But we were supposed to be self-sufficient, soon
>What do you mean all this rampant spending is eating away at the economy? House of Cards? What?
>Uh, fuck, FUCK, ANNEX AUSTRIA, WE NEED SUPPLIES AND THEY'RE ALL FOR IT, ANYWAY
>IT WASN'T ENOUGH? UHH, INVADE CZECHOSLOVAKIA, THEY WON'T PUT UP A FIGHT. INVADE POLAND, THEY'RE SUBHUMANS AND ARE IMPEDING MUH CORRIDOR, SET UP CAMPS, PUT PEOPLE IN THEM AND MAKE THEM DO LABOUR, FUCK BRITAIN AND FRANCE JUST DECLARED WAR ON US??? OKAY, LET'S JUST PREPARE TO INVADE EVERYTHING
>PLEASE HELP BENITO, I DON'T CARE THAT A WAR MIGHT BANKRUPT YOU, YOU'LL GET YOUR NEO-ROME; ROMANIA, GIVE ME OIL, SWEDEN, GIVE ME IRON, I NEED MUH CAUCASUS AND MUH LEBENSRAUM, AAAAAGH!!!
Not a single thing I've just typed is inaccurate or incorrect.
>Hitler's entire ideology was based on hating socialism.
And on today's episode of "Conservatives pretend Hitler was a left winger"...
Based
National socialists is an incredibly accurate name to describe Hitler's party and movement. It is literally that - a nationalist, non-Marxist socialism, as opposed to internationalist Marxist-Leninist socialism.
Socialism doesn't have to be left wing, especially not in the first half of the 20th century. Also the whole left-right dichotomy is retarded, inadequate and needs to be done away with entirely.
The impression that I always got from the Nazis was that they nationalized a lot of industries, but they did it to support their total war effort rather than it being for ideological socialist reasons.
>Socialism doesn't have to be left wing, especially not in the first half of the 20th century. Also the whole left-right dichotomy is retarded, inadequate and needs to be done away with entirely.
I wouldn't argue with that.
Hitler - capitalist
Stalin - capitalist
American university student trannies - capitalists
Yikes
no
Dilate.
yeah ok
That's a Strasser quote
Readers: how you didn’t deny he was socialist
>>>/elchapotrannyhouse/
the guy who wrote that was killed on hitler's orders
>be in war against entire world
>need manpower
>decide to gas millions of people instead of just using them on the front lines as cannon fodder
>tfw to intelligent too win wars
>Hitler
>ever gassing anybody
Kek.
>source: ass
Adolf Hitler as quoted in Adolf Hitler: The Definitive Biography, John Toland, New York: NY, Anchor Books, 1992, p. 224. Quote is from a speech at the Clou restaurant center on May 1, 1927. Hitler is paraphrasing Gregor Strasser’s one-page Nazi talking points memo from June 15, 1926.
>hits pipe
>invades Russia
Germans were always terrible at grand strategy
see
>gas millions of people
Never happened.
...and the mods do it again.
Take a break, mods. You've earned it.
>Hitler is paraphrasing Gregor Strasser’s one-page Nazi talking points memo from June 15, 1926.
This part seems important. It's also seems important to separate quotes from actions and to recognize that once Hitler & the NSDAP achieved power they killed that guy & his adherents within the party.
>Hitler was quoting Strasser when he was still cool with Strasser
YOU DON'T SAY
It did you retarded holocaust denier.
germans also refused to allow women to go to work in the factories to free up more men for the front. they lost because of their own retarded trad ideology
>muh jews
Everytime