Was it rape?

was it rape?

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>Rape in the United States is defined by the Department of Justice as "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."
Now, what is consent, legally speaking?
>Consent is an act of reason and deliberation. A person who possesses and exercises sufficient mental capacity to make an intelligent decision demonstrates consent by performing an act recommended by another. Consent assumes a physical power to act and a reflective, determined, and unencumbered exertion of these powers. It is an act unaffected by Fraud, duress, or sometimes even mistake when these factors are not the reason for the consent. Consent is implied in every agreement.
>In the context of rape, submission due to apprehension or terror is not real consent. There must be a choice between resistance and acquiescence. If a woman resists to the point where additional resistance would be futile or until her resistance is forcibly overcome, submission thereafter is not consent.
Let's focus in here
> If a woman resists to the point where additional resistance would be futile or until her resistance is forcibly overcome, submission thereafter is not consent.
Does this describe Starlight's case? Would additional resistance on her behalf have been futile? Was there no way out of the situation for her?

>If you want on the team you have to suck my dick?
>sucks his dick

Sounds like a transaction to me.

Current law identifies coercion as rape. It's the verbal equivalent of physical force. No judge in the country would have the balls to say differently.

And before you fling shit at me, I don't agree with it. All women have the dignity to walk away from situations like this. I'm just stating facts, and it was, technically speaking, rape.

Coercion:
>The intimidation of a victim to compel the individual to do some act against his or her will by the use of psychological pressure, physical force, or threats. The crime of intentionally and unlawfully restraining another's freedom by threatening to commit a crime, accusing the victim of a crime, disclosing any secret that would seriously impair the victim's reputation in the community, or by performing or refusing to perform an official action lawfully requested by the victim, or by causing an official to do so.

>A defense asserted in a criminal prosecution that a person who committed a crime did not do so of his or her own free will, but only because the individual was compelled by another through the use of physical force or threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death.
>threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death.
>threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death.
>threat of immediate serious bodily injury or death.

Doesn't matter, it was super fucked up, cruel, pathetic, and manipulative. He's a fucking asshole

Oh shit just reread what I posted. Yeah technically it was rape via coercion due to the threat the Deep made to tell everyone that she attacked him.
Welp.

DUDE I HATE WOMEN LMAOOOO XD

>uncultured incel has shitty reading comprehension
What a surprise.

oh boy its my favorite troll thread
have sex incels

>episode where a dude verbally implies "rape" IS given a rape disclaimer
>episode where a dude almost forces his dick into a girl on the top of a car ISN'T given a rape disclaimer
>episode where a girl RAPES (by defintion) Aquaman by forcing her fingers into his body while he says "no" ISN'T given a rape disclaimer

In case you didn't realize, men have allowed women rule the world for awhile now. Which is why it's spiraling down the porcelain convenience.

imagine their babies

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Don't worry, it's understandably confusing. And then it can be twisted on a case by case basis anyway. The law is retarded and usually leans into female favor.

Read
you fucking moron, I already admitted I was wrong. I skimmed in the first time, get bent.

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>>episode where a dude verbally implies "rape" IS given a rape disclaimer
Legally rape.
>>episode where a dude almost forces his dick into a girl on the top of a car ISN'T given a rape disclaimer
Not legally rape, but intent to rape for sure.
>>episode where a girl RAPES (by defintion) Aquaman by forcing her fingers into his body while he says "no" ISN'T given a rape disclaimer
Only not legally rape off of technicality because gills aren't covered in our laws, but in legal principle it was rape.

Sounds like it's just the way things are. Unless you want to say Hollywood is run by rapists. No. Hollywood is a land of liberals and progressives. They never rape people.

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>not legally rape
>in legal principle it was rape
your mind has been raped

>the show makes it apparent that Deep didnt actually think of it as something harmful, just a part of the hazing process, something he himself was a subject to because of his joke powers
>gets MeToo'd anyway because Starligt makes it sound like he raped her forcefully, has nervous breakdown, loses everything, and gets raped himself while Starbitch pretty much forgets about it
Is the show secretly redpilled? The Deep is made to be very sympathetic after getting wrongly metoo'd.

Oh shit

>The Deep is made to be very sympathetic after getting wrongly metoo'd
No it literally doesn't. As someone who watched the show with women present, they all agreed The Deep raped her. What I found very interesting was that they all cheered and said he got what was coming to him when HE got raped.

The only subtle redpill to be found is that when he asked for a blowjob and got it, it ruined his career, but when he got raped it will have literally no effect on his life at all.

>muh law
Law could define sneezing in the presence of a female as rape, which it probably will at some point, fuck this shit. Rape is sex without consent, Starlight gave consent.

>Doesn't matter
>Because I say so

So if you put a gun to a woman's head, and say "suck my dick or die", it's not rape in your retarded mind? I mean she technically accepted the best of a bad situation, so it's not actually rape because she didn't want her head blown off?

/pol/ has ruined you.

Well yeah if you start using retarded hyperbolae, yes, losing a job is just as bad as getting killed. Hurrrrrrr

>suck dick or get fired
Doesn't that technically mean she prostituted herself? I mean, he technically bought her service right?

she had a bazooka instead of a gun why didn't she shoot?

Yup

The wording isn't really my point though, more that this entire "consent" thing is vague as fuck which is why most civilized countries phrase it as "willing consent".

Of course that doesn't actually clear anything up as a woman can -always- argue she was pressured into it somehow and thus it wasn't willing.

non-consensual sense is bad - blackmailing someone into sucking your dick is not 'consensual' /thread

She isn't legally obligated to fight back against her rapist. That being said, she looked sad and she didn't want it, but did she ever actually say "no"?

Like did she ever verbally or physically communicate that she was directly unwilling or unwanting? I'm not saying that makes it okay but if I remember right she looked at him funny, asked what he was doing, and then did it.

Duress is also a thing you retarded law student. Maybe do your case briefs instead of trying to school Yea Forums.

itt: thinking people conclude it was a trade while beta males think she didn't have a choice, just like actresses who suck dick for roles

She was forced into it. That's the very definition of rape. Put yourself in her situation, imagine entering your dream job and then being forced to blow and fuck a guy and if you refuse you're fired and treated like the agressor.

Also thematically, this adapted scene is shit when compared to the same scene from the comic. In the comic Starlight blew A-Train, Black Noir and Homelander and her situation seemed more dire and hopeless. When I read it I felt sick to my stomach, in the show that effect is lost because its only one guy and Starlight doesnt seem to mind too much afterwards. While in the comic you could see her terrified reaction afterwards and she dwelled on the moment a lot afterwards. All of this is lost in this shitty adaptation of a show. Also the Deep was the only truly innocent super in the Seven besides Starlight in the comic, in the show they butchered his character he's just as bad as the rest of them. Fuck this shitty adaptation and fuck amazon.

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It actually raises and interesting question: should women be allowed to use their sexuality for advantage?

If they weren't allowed to do so, should doing so be considered a criminal offense? Who draws the line? Does the man say "stop you are using your body for advantage" or should she be allowed to do whatever she wanted as long as she considered it okay?

Wouldn't putting the responsibility of drawing that line on women instead of men make this all a whole lot simpler? If the woman decides when she is officially using her sexuality for advantage, she can either chose to not do it, or risk legal repercussion.

shitty adaptation for a shitty comic fits tho. if you want edgy shit read crossed or god is dead. the boys is garbage for the sake of it.

Western porn is way fucking worse than eastern shit. For fucks sake his dick is longer than the width of her shoulders.

He preyed on her naivete. He said he was second in command with the power to make or break her career, when in reality he's the misunderstood loser of the Seven. If she was more intelligent she would have called his bluff and told him to fuck off. Never just take someone's word that they power over you, utterly ridiculous.

He's actually a victim of the legal system though, which is simply too complicated for a pedestrian like him.
Such a retard grows up believing one should do good (i.e., follow the law). He later learns of an asshole lawyer, of some dumb law or some corrupt judge. And his response will invariably be the easy one: The law is not perfect? To hell with it all.

>consent is vague
Is it though?
In that case how is
>suck my dick or get fired
different from
>come to work 40 hours a week ot get fired
In both cases the victim has to do something unpleasant to keep their job. Fuck, guess Im getting raped by my boss every day. Me too.
Just to be clear Im not saying that blackmailing women into having sex is acceptable or legal, but its not fucking rape. Rape implies lack of choice, or, in case of your gun example, lack of sensible choice (life or death isnt really a choice)

What movie?

did she bite his fish dick off?

so no, wasn't rape

she traded in fame for dignity through dick sucking

standard move by the majority of women

>>advertising is now rape

that's why america is a litigious shit hole

It's 'The Boys' on Amazon Prime

>lack of sensible choice
Ah and see this is where the lines go gray once again.

Not seeing. Starlight refusing to succ would affect her life no more than me refusing to come to work. Her life and well-being were never in danger.

Depends, do you consider THIS rape.

Same exact situation (courts said no, fyi).

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In the comics it legitimately wasn't rape though, neither legally nor colloquioally. In the comics she just whores herself out.

She could argue her livelihood was in danger and thus it was either suck dick or starve (eat or don't eat, if you will). And that's technically a direct threat to her life isn't it? Not being able to eat?

She could also claim that she feared for her safety in the presence of The Deep. He's a powerful guy, right?

>being this broken
you're not okay user.

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this show is full of accidental redpills

She never said it was.

>anime poster passing judgement
L O L

seek help, for your sake.

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Can't rape the willing.

Deep gave Starlight a choice, she chose to blow him. End of story.

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He was just a punk beta bitch that finally got to feel in control by tricking the dumb new girl into sucking his dick.

Make a case that it was rape retard.

your mom sucks dick

user btfo

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>get into The Seven
>Queen Maeve says that you have to eat her ass or lose the job
Would you agree to something so humiliating?

all me

Cringe

One of those posts was mine

she chooses to suck him off, for her career

was her choice, him raping her?

no 2019.

No her choice was not him raping her.

Are they dropping hints for season 2?

No.

Next question?

Why did Mike Tyson do 5 years for licking some girls twat?

A woman can not consent to a celebrity.

In court she would claim she was verbally threatened and he would claim consent. The court would rule in his favor without additional evidence and "I consented to an act because he threatened to tell the public what I did" is good grounds for jury nullification.

She had become a celebrity in her own right.

Don't you know? Simply holding eye contact for more than 6 seconds is considered rape in most countries.

Now go and have sex.

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Based St. Brie of Sacremento with the redpills

I'm pretty sure threatening her job and reputation is enough duress to qualify.

>women can't consent to celebrities
>she became a celebrity
New crisis, she rapes herself whenever she masturbates ;)

brie larson walks into a bar and says she will scratch you with her zombie toe nails unless you eat her ass.

would it be rape? yes of course it is you faggots

DAMN, Brie can even make rape sound enticing.
Is there anything she can't do?

That's literally a different crime though. There has NEVER been a rape sentence based on duress.

Clever retort incel, now engage in fornication before I claw your eyes out.

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>girl can suck a dick or not suck a dick
>girl decides to sucks a dick
Regret after makes it rape.

>a man looked me in the eyes
Yes.

I't wasn't, despite what femcels basement dwellers would like you to believe.
We get it, your god emperor Hillaryiff lost an election a few years ago, it's time to let go ok sweeties?
Also try leaving the house once in a while, get a job and have sex, it might help.

Its rape. Also the gun argument the one user had said basically stumps you all and you can't refute it.

is this from The Boys?

is it worth watching? looks intentionally edgy, like some HBO shows

>is it worth watching?
no
>looks intentionally edgy, like some HBO shows
yes

She sucked 3 cocks in the manga.

it’s called a comic book

Technically it is a doujin. Comic books don't have sex.

>Comic books don't have sex.
Just like their readers. :^)

Have a (you)

>He preyed on her naivete.


Oh im sorry are grown women naive and cant be held accountable for their actions?

sounds a bit sexist coming from you m8

>being forced to do something at gunpoint is the same as wanting a job

Who /Black Black/ here?

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>yfw you realise this show is about idiot liberals treating beta celebrities as gods who can do no wrong, corrupt politicians and lobbyists, and that only the little man can stop them.

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>Doesn't matter, it was super fucked up, cruel, pathetic, and manipulative. He's a fucking asshole

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Racism

If blackmail is rape than a girl demanding a dinner and a movie is prostitution.

Starlight is naive and got manipulated by a little beta.

the Seven is an /r9k/ fantasy where losers are actually popular, and the biggest beta loser of them all, Homelander is their boss

Kinda creepy that they're fuckin IRL. What's the age difference?

nah she whored herself

18 years. She's 25 so she has only 5 more years until the wall.

Totally /myguy/ I wonder if they'll take the comic book route with him with the "twist", but I doubt it.

Same but unironically.

yeah definitely

>Due to apprehension
The Deep threatens to ruin everything her life has been structured around. You can't ignore conditions of blackmail and extortion but still say submission in and of itself is not consent.
If your dad in a last ditch effort to get you to move out of his basement said you either need to get a job and move out in two months or he's going to make you blow him, that's still rape if the two months mark hits and you knew it was coming but did nothing.

If this was rape then why is Harvey Weinstein free? I guess it isn't rape after all.

she regret doing it so yes it is rape

Nope, she did it willingly. She could have walked away any time.

No. Scummy as fuck and probably worth firing over? Yeah. Rape? No

yes