Find a flaw

Literally one person was sacrificed and it was a ship that was about to be destroyed anyway. No waste.

Superior Super Star Destroyer fixes that.

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Yeah this. Don’t have the part that controls the entire ship sticking out and unprotected.

Except it still has the exposed bridge, as we see it get hit by an A-Wing in RotJ.

>SCIFI SPACE BATTLES SHOULD BE FEATURELESS ARMORED SPHERES LAUNCHING LIGHTSPEED NUKES AT EACH OTHER FROM ACROSS THE GALAXY

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>dollars

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It didn't take the neckpill

Your image makes no sense in this context.

Yeah definitely

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Amusingly enough, New Republic later managed to make a better star destroyer design than the Empire at it's peak. Nebulae are awesome, one of my favorite EU ships.

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>Nebula
will never compete with the Nebulon B, and it's big brother the Nebulon BENIS

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What is the advantage of the fore and aft engine placements?

The bridge is near the surface of the ship, it literally has a giant window/force field looking out into space. With cameras and video feed, why would you not bury the bridge in the core of the ship, farthest away from harm?

I suppose you could make an argument that in the event of a computer/electrical problem that fucks with the cameras, you'd still want to be able to look out. But honestly, if you're having that many problems then being able to see in front of you isn't going to help much.

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Rebels are attacking the ship! Quick, raise Shields!

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it looks cool, fuck if I know, I just like starships with dingle danglers

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This design potentially makes more sense. I imagine (head canon, I know) that you can breach that neck to separate the front from the rear in an emergency, like the Event Horizon.

Why the hell does it have two separate bridges right next to each other?

Nah. People make the mistake of treating the Nebulon B like its two separate hulls held together by a skinny boom, but that skinny boom is really the hull skeleton that the ship is built around. It just looks lopsided because the greebles and kitbashing are weighted towards one side or the other, and not centrally aggregated.

Only one of them is an actually command bridge, the other is flight control for the hangar complement.

>Build one Death Star Vs Build 28 fully manned Battlegroups equipped with TIE Defenders to constantly patrol all known regions.

Sheev, you done fucked up.

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You can still move if you lose half a ship.

You know, people always talk shit about Star Destroyers and their bridges, but seriously, what the fuck is this midsection? It is such an oblivious weak spot, what the fuck, KDY?

24 fighters seems very low, especially for a ship designed to launch several at a time. Modern aircraft carriers can have over 80 planes onboard.

The Empire was based on Nazi Germany, known for giant overengineered pieces of shit

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Holy shit, what a newfag, you were so desperate yo use that image even though it didn't make sense.

Not much into the lore of the EU of Star Wars but how it got retconned into the story is that the Yuzan Wong (or however you spell it) had planet sized ships, so the death star was supposed to take those on.

I just explained it here Ironically, for such an obvious weak spot, its only ever been blown up as such once, in Rogue One, and even then it was an internal explosion at the joint between that big spar and the frontal hull, not being cut in the middle where you'd expect.

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Honestly, the best depiction of sci-fi space battles was a Robert Heinlein (I think) book (maybe Citizen of the Galaxy?) where the sequence of attack goes like this:

>your ship detects the enemy ship
>gunner does some quick slide-rule math
>you fire your lazers
>if you're still alive a moment later, that means you got the drop on them

the death star was supposed to be an ultimate symbol of power that's impossible to destroy or stand against
and in all fairness, how the fuck would the rebels be able to do anything if it didn't have the design flaw

at least the death star didn't catch fire after getting off a train.

>how the fuck would the rebels be able to do anything if it didn't have the design flaw
point an x-wing at the middle of it and activate the hyperdrive

They didn't want the first one to get lonely

>1.5km ship with 72 fighters
>exposed as fuck bridge

None

This actually sounds cool.

They really did a great job on the new Armada ships.
I´m still an original X-Wing fanboy though, and DAMN glad I managed to snag one of the old Tantive IV.
New box looks fucking shit.

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The death star specifically has some sort of field that didn't allow hyperdrive to function. It's how the rebels were trapped in Return of the Jedi

The entire point of Death Star was a weapon capable of penetrating planetary shields.

Without it besieging a planet with shields could take years even with gigantic fleets.

But of course nobody cares about that anymore and now FO conquers the galaxy in 8 hours.

>They really did a great job on the new Armada ships.
except for the pricing, that new Starhawk is fucknig huge and it costs 80 dollars
that hammerhead star destroyer is 60 dollars too despite being smaller than the 50 dollar ISD

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Gravity well generators.

Doesn't matter in Disney canon where you can warp to and from planets directly.

In the Rogue Squadron games, the shaft is for fighters to dock.

Check out the Honor Harrington books.
It´s "realistic" space battles with a touch of old sail-ship battle horror.

>It's how the rebels were trapped in Return of the Jedi
What are you talking about? The Rebel Fleet was trapped because the Imperial fleet was hiding on the other side of the moon but snuck out to block their escape

I thought the hangar was in the big bulge up front

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I paid 90€ for At my local comic shop no less, because I didn´t want to sponsor the Jewzon.

The X-wing huge ships are like 2-3 times as large as the biggest Armada ships, so that's relatively reasonable

Although that Executor they just released is about the same size as the X-wing Blockade Runner and its 200 dollars

I bet you can't find a flaw in the First Order version. :^)

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>200 dollars
Wow, glad I stuck to X-wing.

Cheezus.
Absolutely retarded, as anything Nu-Wars

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it doesn't look anywhere near as awful if its shot at a decent angle, unfortunately its never shot at a decent angle so it always looks like shit
thanks jew jew and rian

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>It's ok from a literal Selfie Angle
Well sure.

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>most heavily armored and shielded part of the ship
>weak

>selfie
lol wut
but compare this picture with this fisheyed garbage and tell me its the same

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Dude, that damn thing has a literal "insert X-Wing here and fuk my shit up" open deck.

>The Empire was based on Nazi Germany
For a small portion of aesthetics yes but other than that no

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WHY do the fukn Jews keep pushing McQaurries earliest and most shittiest designs??

Space testicles essentially.

No Jacuzzi and wet bar.
No bowling alley.
No LAN set up to play 64 player Battlefront II.

That's not a McQuarrie design, that's a Colin Cantwell design.
This is Ralph McQuarrie's concept for the Star Destroyer. It looks pretty similar to the one we see in the Rebels cartoon, with the tall neck and the flat sides, but otherwise not too different from the movie prop.

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That's incredibly kino.

Looks like something from Gundam.

It's a dumb design though. A hangar bay or a hatch like on the First Order transport and Resistance one shouldn't face the enemy. It's the easiest way to get killed.

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where were you during starship troopers production

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Based gigaton chad

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Shit-posting AIs using hyper-grid intrusion ("gridfire") is what you want.

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What the fuck am I looking at?

Some fan design for one of the ILM artist contests.

Do you think it's a good design?
I don't remember too much about the Starship Troopers movie, I didn't like the tone. I want a straight adaptation of the book.

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>all these Imperial bootlickers
Make way for a real navy

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It's a bad design because it's ugly and they butchered a B-wing for it, not because the hatch is at the front. Lots of shuttle and transport doors are at the front in Star Wars - look at the Lambda and Sentinel and the MTT

hes talking about why they trapped the millenium falcon retard

Its too bulky. Their job is to hunt down rebels that are moving in quick maneuverable spacecrafts. The imperial star destroyer was made with fire power in mind not ship deplorably.

The venator while designed primarily for ship-to-ship combat. the Venator had secondary roles such as a carrier for smaller ships. The goal would be get to a rebel base and launch hundres of small ships. A typical Republic Venator carried a complement of 420 fighters: 192 V-wing or V-19 Torrent starfighters, 192 Eta-2 Actis-class interceptors, and at least 36 ARC-170 starfighters. Good luck escaping from that in a small craft.

he literally said RETURN OF THE JEDI

he said he was talking about a new hope

The space worm is so fucking stupid, how does it survive in space? What does it eat? How does it maintain its body mass? It would need to consume so many fucking calories

>he said he was talking about a new hope
Where?

>how does it survive in space?
It breathes space
>What does it eat?
It eats asteroids
>How does it maintain its body mass?
slow metabolism
>It would need to consume so many fucking calories
asteroids are pretty big

literally read the post you were replying to originally

Eternity War. Great military sci-fi novel.

>>It's how the rebels were trapped in Return of the Jedi
How does this imply "A New Hope" is what he was talking about?

>The death star specifically has some sort of field that didn't allow hyperdrive to function. It's how the rebels were trapped in Return of the Jedi
Where is "A New Hope" or "The Millenium Falcon" in this post? I keep using ctrl+f but I can't find it.

Jebaited

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>I was pretending to be retarded

>cis scum

Yeah pretty much, dont forget that the spheres should have minimal crew if not being fully automated, and rather than being armored they should be equipped with measures to counter projectiles and energy beams

And to add insult to injury they already had a great troop transport.
Just pimp it longer like they did the old A.Wing and it fits just as many men as this ugly shoe box.

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who greenlit this flying couch shit? why would you turn the vulnerable broadside of the ship towards the enemy?

u-wings were kino

If the Empire had fielded more of those artificial gravity well SDs, the Rebellion would've died with a whimper.

rogue ones lighting is waaaay too bright during the naval combat and makes everything look like cheap plastic models

Writers should see orbital fleet engagement not as WW2 Pacific fleet combat, but rather as tense duels between nuclear submarines.

then go to /trek/ instead of posting in this thread which clearly has nothing of interest to you

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why do they have this shape?

Too bad it turns into a series of boring Macross Missile Massacres after a while.

>Tiger 1
>Piece of shit
t. Seething Frog

That's because it's an escort ship repurposed into a patrol boat role.

Now you understand why people don't like """"realistic"""" space battles

L00ks kwel

>Find a flaw.
The exposed bridge is the most retarded design ever.

>who greenlit this flying couch shit?
It's a Chinook flying on its side, lol
There's always worse (pic related).

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>exposed bridge
wtf I hate naval vessels now!?

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Hyperspace collision.

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Star Trek's fleet battles are pigshit tho. I'm talking men in a cramped bridge with no windows staring at LADAR sensors looking for heat signatures and making quick calculations before launching their missiles at the target. Red October in Spess.

whats wrong with the Higgins boat?

wow that's real exciting totally what star wars is all about
fuck off faggot

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I want to live in an anarcho communist utopia.

Imperial Class could act as a carrier too, they just rarely utilized that function in the movies.

Like most of the rebellion's ship, it was repurposed to be a ship of the line.
It was big and fast so it suited their hit and run tactics.

You mean the Tractor Beam that Obi-Wan shut off?

>a small portion
Nigga, at least 80% of it
>Helmet shape of scout walkers
>grey uniforms
>STORM TROOPERS
>the name IMPERIAL
Maybe I been baited

I was talking about sci-fi space combat in general, you dumb mutt

snokes ship is way too fucking big, jesus

I like these pre-sequal threads that have been popping up more lately.

None of the reasons for bridges on water ships apply in space.

That aside why are Star Wars ships so poorly armed? You have a ship that's a mile long that has like 30 weapons platforms, meanwhile a water ship that is a couple hundred yards long packs hundreds of weapons. And I'm being extremely generous by looking at the length instead of the mass.

Point to where you think the bridge is on that ship.
I'll give you a hint, it's not in that big fucking thing sticking out above the deck like a target.

youtube.com/watch?v=5m3eG0dHVgE

Nigga I already told you, read Honor fucking Harrington.

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It's not that simple. If you have few but well trained crews it makes more sense to build a few very capable vehicles (mid war Germany). If you have lots of men but train them poorly, you should build lots of garbage vehicles (Russia). If you train your men wel, but have many of them, you should make decent but efficient tanks (USA.

Or you could not train anyone and put green idiots in extremely expensive machines (1944/45 Germany).

Uh....where do YOU think the bridge is on a US Naval carrier?

>T-34
>garbage

Realistic realistic space battles would be baring as shit because computers would make all relevant decisions in nanoseconds and you'd never see anything unless you blow up.

Culture series had ironically a pretty reasonable approach to space combat.

>shit ergonomics
>shit equipment
>shit radio if you're lucky, otherwise flags
>breaks down all the time

The Sherman was what people think the T-34 was, while the T-34 was poorly designed and even more poorly built garbage.

The first T-34s were so fucking terrible that Russian tankers preferred lend-lease Shermans to them.
T-34/85s were a whole different ballgame.

lol this guy is a fucking retard who gets his military knowledge from playing cod black ops, it takes literally 2 seconds to google the location of the bridge of a modern aircraft carrier, and they are both in the island

>searchlight (dazzles enemy)
really?

>You have a ship that's a mile long that has like 30 weapons platforms
Because George Lucas doesn't know anything about weapons, the navy, or engineering.
Also, those 30 turbolasers were enough to turn the crust of a planet molten.
The wedge shape of the ship is also so that they all have overlapping firing arcs.
In the EU is commented on many times that the empire never considered star fighters to be a threat because they could screen them with a million billion disposable TIE fighters.
After the first death star blew up they introduced the lancer frigate which was covered in quad-lasers (like the Falcon's gun turrets) for the express purpose of being point-defense and anti-air (anti-space?).

/thread
Still no reason to have an exposed bridge rather than one inside the heart of the ship.

yes really, but there are far more dazzling effects elsewhere

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>T-34/85s were a whole different ballgame.
Didn't reliability and ergonomics get even worse in those? I'm sure production quality went up a bit so they might actually perform to spec in regards to protection, and the bigger gun can't not have helped either, but the tank was fundamentally a bad design.

>Helmet shape of scout walkers
Based off WW1 British tanks
>grey uniforms
Based off Imperial Japan
>STORM TROOPERS
Aside from the name, they are a literal reference to Flash Gordon mooks
>>the name IMPERIAL
It's a generic term for Empire. Do you think Nazi Germany was the first Empire? Are you retarded? Lucas has gone on record saying the Empire was based off Rome, Great Britain, Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and the US military. Politically its based off '60-'70s US.

It doesn't eat asteroids though, it just lives inside a hole in one and waits for ships to come through on the off chance that one flies into it's mouth for some reason

>Also, those 30 turbolasers were enough to turn the crust of a planet molten.
Which makes no sense either if you purely look at the area of impact of one of those. Even if you assume that every shot turns the entire crust underneath it liquid and keeps it liquid it would take generations for one one to melt a planet, realistically it would never happen.

>Still no reason to have an exposed bridge rather than one inside the heart of the ship.
Reason #1: It's not cinematic.
Reason #2: It's not photogenic.
Reason #3: It's not precedented.
Reason #4: It's not necessary.
Reason #5: It's not practical.

>That aside why are Star Wars ships so poorly armed?
Like what? A Star Destroyer alone has the firepower to destroy cities.

I thought The Lost Fleet series had a pretty decent aproach

Read Hyperion/Fall of Hyperion.
The people in charge of the space battles comments how its so fucking boring, happening over AU's at the closest range, and nothing at all like what people have been lead to believe from movies and books... Right before they realize the Ouster's don't have the same doctrine, and turns the space-battle over hyperion into a melee.

Separatist ships btfo everything else in Star Wars

quintessentially british

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It's heavily based off Earth naval ships.

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>people clearly knowledgeable about star destroyers discussing its weak points
>waaaaaa crying memeface you don’t like star wars !!!

>based helmets off Samurai warriors
>thinks its nazi germany because hes blind

Turbolasers are shown to be similarly capable as WW II era Battleship guns, and a Star Destroyer, despite being hundreds of times bigger than a battleship, has maybe 2-3 times as many guns. And battleships have hundreds of smaller guns to engage aircraft and smaller ships in addition to that, while Star Destroyers don't for some reason.

Imperial ships are so cool. Mandalorian ones are comfy too though.

aaaaaaaaaaaaaah wtf???
> cockpit like a sore thumb begging to be shot
> turret gunner can only shoot on horizon level at targets at huge distance
> no possibility to clear landing area in advance as there are no down-faced turrets

It's clearly a WWI German Stahlhelm, not really Nazi, no

If "exposed" bridges are so vulnerable to attack, why do modern navies keep having them mounted on giant obvious towers? Surely, if we're discussing it now, they must have been discussing it for years, and yet even with all the advances is sensor and tv technology, they haven't turned the command centers of modern aircraft carriers and escort frigates into floating pillboxes. Why is that do you think?

Tell that to Taris!
I'm talking about sustained fire.
Hell if you can punch a hole in the mantle the pressure will do much of the work for you, look at the Siberian or Deccan traps, where the crust just opened up and flooded an entire continent with Lava.

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literally every fr*g tank between WW2 and the AMX-30 was some bastardized form of panther

You know you can literally watch any documentary about the making of star wars and see George and his crew straight up say the Empire is based off WW2 Germany, right? These docs shipped with the 1997 VHS editions for fucks sake

And yet Higgins boats won World War II, and virtually identical successors to them are still used in the present.

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A turbolaser penetrates at most tens of meters of rock, and it would have to evaporate more like ten kilometers, and it would have to do that over a large enough area for the walls to not simply collapse and fill up the hole with rubble.

Is dazzling enemies legal? I know it's a war crime if you use lasers.

that they designed them after world war II shit reminded me of how ridiculous designs in the second sequel were

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Often living in asteroid fields, space slugs would burrow into an asteroid until completely hidden. From there, they fed on stellar energy emissions, mineral-rich deposits from the asteroid, floating space debris, and other silicon-based creatures, such as mynocks.[1] Largely dormant, the opportunistic feeder could lunge upon passing ships. However, doing so used up all of its energy, exhausting it.[2]

Wrong.
This is the same rigid thinking that lead to the French charging the trenches of World War 1 in bright Napoleonic War era uniforms and battle lines.

And nowadays, thinking a humongous Air Craft Carrier is something else but a BIG beefy target for a hypersonic missile.

Everybody else already tore you a new one, but son.
Just watch Top Gun.
youtu.be/kUsFWO08CO0

You ignored part of the blurb, they don't just fall, they are launched away "magnetically" - that is, like a gaussian or railgun

>Wrong.
You said nothing, ok.

>Still no reason to have an exposed bridge rather than one inside the heart of the ship.

I too agree that this fantasy western/samurai franchise set in space which intentionally apes WW2 era technology and tactics should throw dramatic license and aesthetics aside to more realistically portray one tiny part of this fantastical and completely unrealistic universe.

Yeah uhh, how many space battles have they won exactly?
The concept is retarded for an assault from the skies where enemy fire comes from below not from the front. Therefore turret positions are dumb and there's no need for the cockpit sticking out like it does.

Yes, they are launched away and then magnetically attracted to the ship, ie back to the bomber.

>Turbolasers are shown to be similarly capable as WW II era Battleship guns
I didn't know WW2 battleships could vaporize skyscrapper sized targets in milliseconds with a single shot.

>has maybe 2-3 times as many gun
>over 60 heavy turbolasers
>over 60 ion cannons
>multiple heavy turbolaser batteries
It's pretty well armed.

>And battleships have hundreds of smaller guns to engage aircraft and smaller ships in addition to that, while Star Destroyers don't for some reason.
Because that's what the TIE Fighter was designed for. It doesnt need that when it carries full squadrons.

the ship they're launched towards dumbass, you think they're dropping these bombs in the middle of space with no targets?

>it's a 'autistic wookiepedia article tries to explain something from a movie that had absolutely no thought or backstory put into it by the actual people who made the movie' episode

That doesn't make up for any of this stupid design when every X-wing in the rebel fleet was capable of firing proton torpedoes into hardened capital ships. Y-wings having shield disabling ion cannons and a deluge of torpedoes. Let's not forget B-wing bombers which turned everything the Y-wing could do up to 11.

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>I didn't know WW2 battleships could vaporize skyscrapper sized targets in milliseconds with a single shot.
Turbolasers can't do that either.

>It's pretty well armed.
EU wank, IRL they fire 1-2 weapons at a time, which would imply insane reload times.

>Because that's what the TIE Fighter was designed for. It doesnt need that when it carries full squadrons.
TIEs are abortions of designs and no imperial ships are ever shown to run CAP, hell they don't even launch their fighters until rebel fighters have already fired their torpedoes and are running away.

Also battleships had fighter cover and they still had hundreds of AA guns, but then again the Americans didn't lose battleships to kamikaze while the Empire regularly lost Star Destroyers, food for thought.

Unshielded shield generators. This seems to be a recurring issue in Star Wars.

I love how sb made new wojaks for this Quite possibly, but you know what annoys me most? Empire has all those cool weapons on star destroyers and we NEVER see them just fucking up shit for good. Would pay to watch how some empire hick general bombards the fuck out the rebel scum half an hour till they soil their pants. Bury their quips under sustained laser fire till there's nothing left as molten steel and organic sludge.

>It's clearly a WWI German Stahlhelm, not really Nazi, no
>Lucas states it was based off the Kabuto

That's not how magnetism works.

>Honestly, the best depiction of sci-fi space battles was a Robert Heinlein

Yes that's the best depiction of space battles that's why every popular piece of sci fi media, whether movies shows books or video games, always depicts capital ship combat akin to a mid-20th century naval engagement. Screw exciting and tense engagements which still allow a human element of wit and error to influence them I want giant space balls run by computers which instantly recognize and fire on every threat which enters range within nanoseconds utilizing pinpoint accuracy. I wish someone would write that book I'm sure it'd make millions and wouldn't wind up as some obscure fiction read by less than 20000 people and referenced only by tasteless retards who don't understand what artistic license is and whose cumbrains have been addled by video games and futurism concepts created by autistic brainlets who don't even know how the power gets to the computers they sit down at hammering out retarded nonsense about how all humans will become cyborgs.

>build another shield generator to shield the first one
> but now the secondary one is unshielded
>I got you bro, just put it under the shield of the first one

X-wings, Y-wings, and B-wings all only have a few missiles, maybe 2 dozen at best. That big nig thing from TLJ has a thousand

Lucas said VADER's helmet was samurai inspired, not the imperial soldiers helmets

one for ship command duties, the other to direct the air wing carried on board.
also one could do the other's job in case it was destroyed

based

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>Turbolasers can't do that either.
Pic related.

>EU wank, IRL they fire 1-2 weapons at a time, which would imply insane reload times.
This is disputed in all the films. Especially Rogue One and Return of the Jedi. You see a Star Destroyers unleashing full volleys and destroying ships. One Star Destroyer annihilates the retreating Rebels in Rogue One.

>hell they don't even launch their fighters until rebel fighters have already fired their torpedoes and are running away.
When does this happen? Most TIE's are deployed before the Rebels ever reach their targets.

>Empire regularly lost Star Destroyers, food for thought.
No, they didn't. Rebels were taught to flee at the sight of them. You see this fear in the films.

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that big nig thing drops magnetic mines, it can't fire a payload of guided explosive warheads, a squadron of Y-wings could have taken that pizza destroyer out with little trouble at a safer range.

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The Russians had the best tanks of the interwar and world war period, with their flaws being crew training and the lack of basic shit like radios in the rushed early 1940s units. Their tanks were so good that they influenced all modern tank design to this day. You clearly don't know what you're talking about.

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Only Vader was based off Samurai shit, the entire Empire is based off WW2 Germany right down to Lucas copying the space fights from WW2 gun camera footage. In fact all the Imperial officers being played by British actors is a slight homage to WW2 movies at the time having all the Germans being played by Brits

Why is this called a B-Wing?

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B-cuz haha

B stands for Blade, which is the shape it looks like in profile

That looks like it would fall apart with the slightest wrong movement.

>there will never be a star wars film dedicated mostly to space combat

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Ecks wing.

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>exposed bridge
it’s basically a head. just aim for the head of this Jarjar lookin mf

Is that... Leeegal?

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The -real- reason is that ILM labeled their new fighter prop designs for Return of the Jedi "Fighter A" and "Fighter B". Fighter A happened to be shaped loosely like the letter A and became the A-wing while the B one wasn't really shaped anything like that but was nicknamed it anyway. So when it released they made the excuse that it was shaped like a sword or "blade" which is a perfectly reasonable excuse. I don't think letter-wings need to necessarily look like a letter.

ties are a bitch to launch and maintain, they need special racks and shit they can't just land and take off

Capital ship destroyer class Star Destroyer is the best

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It’s owned by Disney

T-Wing would make more sense, since it looks exactly like a lower-case t.

Need a really big gun?

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The one two punch combo with the ion and plasma blast is a fucking brilliant weapon for fighting against large capital ships

>ship with multiple auxiliary bridges
>Palpatine places it right next to the DSII and actively inside its gravity well
>it gets sucked in before any of its auxillaries can kick in

It's not a Battlestar.

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Keldabe battleship standing by.

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Prepare for attack!
All batteries fire! Fire!

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>that one retart flying the wrong way

Well it is made from legos

Remember what disney took away from you

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That poor Endurance class carrier.

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Considering that in real naval combat, the opposing ships are so far away from each other they can't even see each other with the naked eye, why are spaceship battles in scifi always massive retarded clusterfucks with ships from all sides mashed up together?

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Why are you retarded?

Because that doesn't make for an entertaining movie?

Does it matter? Maybe there's a loss of firepower if fighting from a distance

>implying it wouldn't

>there will never be LOTGHesque star wars with space battles encompassing entire episodes

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>but the tank was fundamentally a bad design

T-34 was in military of some countries up until 90's.
Also, if it was "bad design" why would Germans/Finns use it? Why would Guderian demand an exact copy of T-34 from German tank manufacturers in 1941 (and why did Porsche's team actually produced several exact copies)? Why would German High Command had to issue an explicit order to Panzerwaffe to avoid direct engagements with T-34s in 1941?

>The first T-34s were so fucking terrible

So fucking terrible that even Germans and Finns used them in their tank regiments. Sooo fucking terrible...

>Why are you retarded?

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It is but there are also external shafts that ships can connect/disconnect to directly and quickly.

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>transmission breaks down in your path

I can come up with two possible explanations. The first one is fighters, the capital ships need to be close enough to launch their fighters at each other. The other thing is speed. Spaceships in Star Wars are agile as fuck (while lasers are not) and hyperspace drives are basically teleporters. You would not hit shit at long range.

How can one post be so wrong

>for me, it's the ARC-170

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I fucking doubt that the Germans fielded t-34's in any large numbers and out of anything but curiosity and the need to learn about the tank they are fighting against and the Finns used them because they didn't have anything else
>Why would German High Command had to issue an explicit order to Panzerwaffe to avoid direct engagements with T-34s in 1941?
Because most of the german tanks at the time weren't armed with a gun big enough to take on the T-34, but that doesn't mean T-34 was good design, it just means it had thick enough armor for the time being

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Commies obsession with negrophilia and trannies will permanently hinder their ability to accomplish their goals.

Good Lego sets are actually fairly sturdy and won't shatter completely when dropped.

Find a flaw.....

>Only two highly exposed shield generators.
>Highly exposed bridge.
>Lack of point defenses makes it vulnerable to fighters.
>No ion cannons.
>No long range cannons.
>Poor turret placement.
>Vulnerable to attacks from the rear.
>Building more smaller ships would allow for better force projection across the galaxy.

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>I fucking doubt that the Germans fielded t-34's in any large numbers

Because your opinion is probably formed by wehraboo YT videos. Germans used all the T-34 they could capture intact or repair. They would often install a commander's cupola on the turret.

>the Finns used them because they didn't have anything else

Well, if the design was indeed soooo baaad then they wouldn't use T-34s at all, now would they?

>Because most of the german tanks at the time weren't armed with a gun big enough to take on the T-34, but that doesn't mean T-34 was good design, it just means it had thick enough armor for the time being

T-34 was an amazing design, especially if you take into account the fact that the USSR had no tank factories 10 years prior to the war and their heavy industry build-up was only beginning when the war started.
Few flaws (like the lack of radio) doesn't make it a bad design, if it was a bad design the tank won't be fighting in conflicts up until the 1990's and won't have been mass-produced until 1960's.

Brainlet tier, only the ARL 44 was even similar. Amx 13-50 were nothing like it.

>Germans used all the T-34 they could capture intact or repair.
Everyone did that, but never to any substantial degree because maintaining a tank you don't have spare hands at hand for is a chore

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God that's such a terrible design. Every time I see it I remember that clip of the poor art designer trying to tell Rian that a flat ship is visually boring and getting shot down because Rian wants a flat pancake for his shots of Po flying around blasting turrets.

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>Why didn't they just crash one of the ships into the rebel base
That was the original point you fucking double nigger.

You keep mistaking T-34/76s from 1942 and 1943 for T-34/85s made between 1944-1953. Nobody used first-gen T-34's after the war if they could avoid it, they used IS-3s or Shermans.

I normally cannot stand the no explanation DUDE BIG SHIP LMAO meme in sci-fi, but the First Order having not only the biggest goddamn star ship we've seen in the franchise but the Death Star 9000 AS WELL is insultingly retarded.
FO should have been insurgents waging asymmetrical warfare and maybe by Ep 8 they'd have a fleet of ships that defected from the Republic. Basic world building oh my god

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>while the T-34 was poorly designed and even more poorly built garbage

>"In November of 1941, high ranking engineers, industry representatives, and armament directorate officers came to my tank army in order to familiarize themselves with the Russian T-34 tank. Frontline officers suggested that we should build tanks exactly like the T-34 in order to correct the unpleasant position of our armoured forces, but this position did not receive support from the engineers. Not because they were opposed to imitation, but because it was not possible to rapidly set up manufacturing of important components, especially the diesel motor. Additionally, our hardened steel, whose quality was dropping due to a lack of natural resources, was inferior to the Russians' hardened steel."

>H. Guderian, "Panzer Leader", page 268

>Frontline officers suggested that we should build tanks exactly like the T-34
>Frontline officers suggested that we should build tanks exactly like the T-34
>Frontline officers suggested that we should build tanks exactly like the T-34

but of course a fucking teenage moron from Bhutanese basket-weaving forum would know better about WW2 tanks than all the frontline Panzerwaffe officers and Guderian himself.

The original post didn't make any distinction between early models and later models, just "T-34 le bad, kek lmao".

literally everything from the AMX50 & co were based on some form of a panther hull, even those disgustingly ugly casemates

>Frontline officers suggested that we should build tanks exactly like the T-34
And so they did.

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France fielded more upgunned Shermans postwar than they ever did "Panther" """clones"""

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INTENSIFY FORWARD THRUSTERS

I remember love
youtu.be/kgMIwuUsOME
youtu.be/xKiu30uKR7s

>On October 6th our headquarters was moved forward to Sevsk, 4th Panzer
Division was attacked by Russian tanks to the south of Mzensk and went through
some bad hours. This was the first occasion on which the vast superiority of the
Russian T34 to our tanks became plainly apparent. The division suffered grievous
casualties. The rapid advance on Tula which we had planned had therefore to be
abandoned for the moment.
>H. Guderian, "Panzer Leader", page 123

whew, such bad design... must have listened to wise Yea Forums fags and wait 2-3 years for LL shermans to arrive... stupid russians...

>Disney doesn't want gritty war movies that appeal to the now older audience that grew up with Star Wars
>their most successful nuWars film is the remains of a gritty war movie after having all the edges ground off
A Star Wars: Armada series that follows two opposing Imperial and Rebel fleets in the midst of the Galactic Civil War would be a massive hit and a good draw for their streaming service. It would also be relatively inexpensive since you only need a handful of sets/props and reusing space battle CGI scenes is pretty easy to get away with i.e. BSG 2004.

t. Mitya karamazov

it took them a decade before they dropped the projects without a single adopted vehicle
also fr*gs only used regular ones, they only made the upgunned ones for the jews

>revs the engine

Have you read The Forever War? Best description of what space combat would actually be like ever. Also just a great story.

>t. no arguments

They have dorsal shield batteries too.
All bridges are exposed in some way.
Long range cannons are useless in sw, people can just hyperspace away.

Having an exposed rear is Inconsuquental in fleet battle

What if the ship is attacked from below?

Aka the best brother

there is no "below" in space idiot

Those “bombers” were so retarded. There’s no reason whatsoever to “fly over” your target in space. Like just tilt the ship 90 degrees and the target is now “below you.” Just launch your gay little magnetic balls from several miles away, or better yet, launch missiles. The entire concept of those bomber ships was colossally retarded and the only accurate part was that every one of them was blown to bits.

What’s the point of having a rotating cockpit in space? The b-wing doesn’t make any sense.

Anyone who would willingly use a Soviet Tank deserves their steel coffin

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