Rian Johnson's Star Wars trilogy confirmed: Star Wars fans already seething in the comments

I agree. i also like the mysticism he incorporated into the film, something that's been missing from this science FANTASY franchise for decades. i will give his next star wars movie a fair shot.

Rian Johnson must have proof of Kathleen Kennedy visiting Epstein's island. There's no other reason to let him keep working on this franchise he clearly hates so much.

Do kids care at all about Star Wars? I only ever see kids wearing comic book shirts/backpacks.

>he's a total faggot
>breaking bad reddit plebbor
Try watching his kinos like Brick and Looper he's a very good filmmaker. TLJ was better than most Star Wars movies they aren't all good or even decent.

Based

Incels just can't catch a break lately

Incel Last Jedi haters btfo:
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> Star Wars is not about the galaxy, it's about Luke and Anakin Skywalker
That's where you're wrong, the Star Wars saga is about Skywalker but not Star Wars

Everything he has ever made sucked. There's no reason to think his next Star Wars will be his first non-shitty movie. Looper is brainlet tier bad time travel schlock.

I wonder how much he'll rip off Cowboy Bebop. He did it with Brick.

>clearly hates so much
Cry more faggot he's a huge fan and went to the same fucking film school as George Lucas.

Name the movies you like from the last 20 years pleb, you guaranteed like things that actually suck 100 times worse.

>brick ripped off Cowboy Bebop because the opening song sounded similar in tone not composion

How much is Rian paying you to shill?

>TLJ was better than most Star Wars movies
Imagine believing this

Star Wars needs to evolve beyond the original premise of rebels vs big bad empire, or every movie will be the same shit. I'll take a cinematic interpretation of Knights of the Old Republic over any more rehashed sequels starring Lukes great great granddaughter.

Nothing sucks worse than Rian Johnson movies. He's bottom of the barrel trash. And he hates Star Wars. You can tell from everything he wrote in the script and everything he said in interviews. He just wants to destroy the franchise because some Star Wars nerd beat him up in high school and even the Digimon kids wouldn't let him sit at their table.

>huge fan
>doesn't understand the OT characters at all nor why hyperdrive attacks completely ruin the original film

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So this guy is making star wars movies, the GoT fags are making SW movies, how many fucking star wars movies are planned exactly?

>Brick and Looper
These are legit terrible. The end of Brick is so fucking bad it is unintentionally hilarious.

>my headcanon the post
Amazing every word of what you just said was wrong

You mean just like Lucas didn't understand the OT according to purists and ruined Anakin Skywalker aka Vader

Shut the fuck up you know nothing about cinema, TLJ was the only disney entry that drew from the OT and PT with it's themes and visuals and writing and mise-en-scene

As many as there are Marvel movies. At least that was the plan until Rian's awful movie destroyed the franchise, killed Solo, destroyed the theme park, tanked ticket sales, and made Disney cancel every upcoming Star Wars movie except IX.

>hotly awaited murder-mystery “Knives Out”
said no one
who the fuck cares about this
and especially after that awful trailer

>these are legit terrible
If you have shit taste, which you do because you're here and parroting the same opinions as marvel plebs.

>TLJ was the only disney entry that drew from the OT and PT with it's themes and visuals and writing and mise-en-scene
>Meanwhile in reality TFA was a shot for shot remake of IV
You're retarded.

>TLJ was better than most Star Wars movies they aren't all good or even decent.

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>meanwhile in reality TFA was a shot for shot remake of IV
exactly TFA had nothing from the PT in it and TLJ had both OT And PT shit

You're fucking retarded and didn't give one argument against me and instead proved me right

>We’re doing something that steps beyond the legacy characters
Well that won’t be hard since you and JJ murdered most of them (after ruining them).

I like Rian running Star Wars because he's almost as smart as me and I understand his humor

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This is what autism and inceldom looks like.

>gif from a shit tier reddit show
Exactly lad, you can't into cinema all you watch and consume is garbage. Especially if you think Star Wars has ever been consistent.

How much you wanna bet that the next main character is a woman with brown hair again?

But it seems Rian's trilogy is still confirmed? How is this possible after his movie made 1 billion less than The Force Awakens?

>consistent with his character
>In the OT Luke wanted nothing but to be a resistance fighter pilot and fight the empire
>In Rian's movie Luke abandons everyone and tried to murder a sleeping boy
Sure, Rian. Sure.

>no retort
This is what Yea Forums incels posting in 2019 look like when they are btfo

rian confirmed alcoholic

He has dirt on Disney executives or he's sucking someone's dick.
You've already been defeated. Everything you said was proven wrong with a single sentence. Your humiliation is infinite.

"In development"- Rian twisting chains of paper clips in an office counts as in development.

Until casting, a movie is just ideas being kicked around.

>luke can't make mistakes MUH HERO
>you can't into pottery from the PT
Lol pleb

You know what? I want it to happen.

I want them to spend millions of dollars on the first movie, just so it can't even earn a quarter of what they used to make it in the first place so it will finally kill the franchise.

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t. Rian

>despite internet trolls
haha take that you fuckin incels! if you don't suck the mouse's dick, you're a misogynist alt-right terrorist! Yea Forums btfo!!

>until casting
Hey faggot Rian doesn't pump out capeshit every year this is taking years to develop and make because it's gonna be actual kino. He's writing it and Lucasfilm and his jewish producer partner are all on board. Cry more.

i feel sleepy

>rejecting his reason to exist is consistent with his character
Total brainlet. OT Luke never once backed down from being the hero. He tried to save people no matter what. TLJ Luke is the exact opposite. It's super inconsistent.

Isn't this an old article?

What are you worried about, tranny?

Argued like a true shill

Shills are out in full force in this thread.
TLJ was terrible, regardless of what he was given. The story and writing were pathetic.
Anyone who defends or even attempts to downplay how bad it was is genuinely only on this board to either shitpost or because they were paid.

He has the right instincts but its too late.
Star Wars has strangled itself with its own backstory.
It may be hard for you pesky kids but the Star Wars universe before the Prequels was a vast and mysterious place. Imagine how cool and enigmatic Boba Fett was before they rode that character into the ground.

Audiences think they want things that they really don't want when they get them, filmmakers should understand this.

The nearest equivalent I can think of is if Ridley Scott deciding it would be a good idea to do a film about C-beams being fired at Tannhäuser Gate. It will never be as good as what you can imagine and the audience's imagination is the last thing you should try and compete with.

Then again, even Ridley couldn't leave Alien alone with the same kind of outcomes. This shit literally never works, I can't think of one good example.

Stop being such a brainlet you think Lukes character arc actually ends in act II

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He was given to much freedom, thats mostly the fault of kathleen kennedy and JJ who were so incompetent they didn't seem to understand that if you write one movie in a planned trilogy you should probably have the rest of the movies at least planned. I don't particularly care though, episode 8 was the last star wars I'm seeing in theatres, I just wanted one scene with the original cast together. I don't care much about the new characters and I don't care about a fictional endless war.

knights of the old republic is just yet another sith vs jedi conflict with more sabers.

You're a retard, TLJ was one of the only good movies of 2017 and 2018 and 2019 have been dogshit thus far.

just make a new IP if you want it to be completely different

>no its actually based and redpilled and edgy to like the TLJ, GoT S8, etc

This is some desperate and pitiful astroturfing from these shills, I swear.

>shit tier bait

I understand he fucked Star Wars irreversibly but do people really hate Brick? I thought that was a neat movie. Looper was kinda shit though, not sure why everyone loved that movie.

That’s true, but it doesn’t really speak well of him as a storyteller that he was given setups he could take anywhere, yet he took them nowhere at all.

It will never happen. Rian is going to fade, fade away.

Of his three 'big' movies, 2/3 of them were complete dogshit.
I have ZERO interest in watching Brick, even if it is his """"""""""""best""""""""" movie.

After being tricked into watching Looper, I cannot trust a single word anyone or anything has to say about this soi-addled hacks' filmography.

you can't think of a good example because no one does them right.
A good mystery is still a good mystery after being understood fully.
we wouldn't have so many Sherlock Holmes rehashes and retellings if that wasn't the case.

The problem lies in that no one has any agenda for good story telling when it comes to revealing origins. It's always about subverting expectations for the sake of it, or trying too hard to explain every single goddamn thing to the point where it feels like a checklist.

>no retort
Post the movies you think are good faggot, they aren't at all

The 2nd movie in a trilogy is supposed to give more questions than answers you dumb nigger

Wow this brainlet thinks TLJ follows Campbell. kek
>freedom to live
>dies

You better start praying

Has anyone ever confirmed a real shill? Or is it just people on Yea Forums being their typical contrarian selves?
Not that it would be surprising just curious if anyone has been caught.

I get the impression that Johnson is worse than Lucas in regard to control. It's not corporate board meddling, he surrounded himself with good writers and artists and flat out rejected their suggestions. The concept art book is riddled with really cool ideas and designs that were shot down by Rian, not to mention it's pretty clear that Hamill disapproved with Rian's writing for Luke. Maybe he'd do better with no expectations to subvert, but I really do get the impression that he enjoyed doing the opposite of what people wanted, like it was some power move that he thought made him avant-garde.

this... just double down you shills keep it going.

It's pretty obvious Rian Johnson was trying to make a bad movie. He truly wanted to destroy everything good about Star Wars in order to "subvert expectations" that the movie would be good.

What didn't you like about Looper? It was convoluted, sure, but I liked the main character(s) and I thought the premise was interesting. Also that scene where the guy's parts start to go missing is some of the scariest shit I can imagine.

True although Sherlock committed the same crime and that is effectively done now too. I had no interest in his family and Mycroft was always most interesting in the stories as a largely unseen off-stage character, its the Boba Fett thing again in a way.

I can't quite articulate why but I find there is something terribly needy and entitled about it having to have every little thing shown and explained and it feels like part the zeitgeist of millennials. Nobody watching Star Wars in 1977 had any expectation they'd see the Clone Wars, but it was mysterious and fun to speculate about.

>calls someone else a brainlet
>you're literally a fucking brainlet
Freedom to Live (for an eternity) Mastery leads to freedom from the fear of death, which in turn is the freedom to live (for an eternity)

I haven't watched TLJ but I have been spoiled on some things (Luke and Snoke die, mainly) not much else. I liked The Force Awakens a lot, actually and will probably want to watch last movie. I guess what i'm asking is is TLJ at least watchable or should I just read a wikipedia article?

>Also that scene where the guy's parts start to go missing is some of the scariest shit I can imagine.
That's the worst part. That's not how time travel works.
>Cut off a piece of someone 20 years ago
>Takes 20 years for that piece to fall off
Doesn't even make sense.

>calling Luke, Han, and Leia legacy characters

JUST FUCK MY FRANCHISE UP SENPAI

It's pretty obvious you have no original thought in your head and just repeat the same meme garbage you've heard and think is correct.

Yes but its also supposed to give a clever hook to keep the audience excited for a potential end. TLJ didn't have that hook, the bad guys were bad the good guys were good and all the best characters are dead.

It's fucking stupid. I feel like it's worth one watch through just so you can understand how fucked up our world has become.

Just watch it, it's much better than TFA. Only plebs here.

>cut off a piece of someone 20 years ago
>takes 20 years for that piece to fall off
>Doesn't even make sense
It makes no sense because you're fucking retarded and got it wrong. Both ages of the same character are in the present and the older ones nose and shit disappears when they cut off the younger ones in the future, both in the future/present. Not past

TLJ is like a mindless popcorn action flick. Lots of stuff happens, pretty pictures, loud noises, bright colors, lots of motion and noise and things that keep the monkey brain entertained. But then afterwards it's like you just binged on cheap gas station food and you're about to shit it all out as your brain catches up and starts to think about what you just watched. The more you think about TLJ the worse it becomes. It doesn't stand up to scrutiny at all but on the surface it's a bright action movie with pretty CGI explosions.

>being this autistic and butthurt
go to bed rian. your movie a shit

Maybe if he directed a spinoff from the get go SW wouldn't be so deep in the shit. He had no clue how to handle the "legacy" characters. Fuck Disney for this ill conceived trilogy. It's clear they needed a better roadmap, not let every new director start from scratch and subvert expectations.

Oh fuck you're serious... I'm sorry little buddy but if you genuinely think that's the case nothing I can say is going to help you. But good luck out there and I feel sorry for your parents supporting you until they die sad, tired deaths. :(

Holy shit you get dumber with every post. And the bar you set with your first post was already very low.
>The future guy is in the present so his body parts will be affected now because of something that happened 20 years ago
Full retard. I now realize you weren't even trolling. You're just actually a low IQ moron.

>TLJ is like a mindless popcorn action flick.
That's why it filtered all the plebs who loved JJ's mindless popcorn action flick. Fucking retard.

kotor 2 isn't tho

The future guy is the same as the one in the past/present, it's an alternate timeline where both are existing at the same time, if you fucked up or killed the younger one the older one wouldn't exist.

Normies and Yea Forums included literally can't understand time travel if it isn't back to the future.
What an embarrassment.

Hyperspace ramming fucked the universe over worse than anything in ep 7.

Only if you're an autistic retard, the scene was nice and unexpected in a good way

Fuck I have to point this out.
If you change anything in the past it changes the future. Meaning if some cunt chopped your nose off, you're not going to make the same life choices to end up in that situation 10 years down the track.

Imagine not being allowed to not like a movie.

JJ was kino compared to Rian's brainlet garbage. Even uncreative rehashes are better than the bad writing of TLJ.

Unexpected in the sense that going full retard is always unexpected. Rian, this is just pathetic. Stop drinking yourself into a stupor and shitposting on Yea Forums.

This "trilogy" has supposedly been in the works for 2 years and there hasn't been a single detail leaked about it to the shill media. Stay seething, Rian.

I heard an interview with Greg Proops who was a voice actor in the first prequel.

They were asking him what you should do to fix Star Wars, he said it was obvious you just let a fan make one of the stories they'd imagined over the years because it was so embedded in the culture that George was the last person who really understood it anymore. I think this is actually a good insight. Its like Paul McCartney saying he always wondered what it would like to go and see The Beatles.

Somehow Disney found people that actively disliked Star Wars and 'had problems' with it they wanted to 'correct' in the sequels. These people are themselves wild outliers. Its such a strange thing to do but then it also occurs to me after George himself, who would really have a deep disconnect with Star Wars as a cultural phenomenon. Virtually nobody...except the Disney Corporation who it was well known spent a good decade basically seething about losing what they thought was their by right to a fucking 20th Century Fox film and never being able to get it back.

Its really messed up when you think about it.

Why are you so threatened?

He will be kicked off half way throw for "Creative differences" and the movie will have 80% reshoots

Ewok trilogy, fully subtitled. Calling it now, screencap this post.

flashy things gooood
universe consistency baaad
who cares about rules as long as it looks nice and fresh.

why didn't they just hyperspace ram the death star with a x-wing? you just have to sacrifice a droid to do it

They had the guy captured and were amputating him systematically, if you get fucked up your future body will bear the scars regardless, simple as.

>Everyone who doesn't like my movie is an internet troll.

Gee this has to be the most retarded business model in history.
Its akin to Hillary Clinton calling 1/2 the country "deplorable" and then expecting them to vote for her.

looper is stupid shit and the plot makes no fucking sense in dozens of ways it just has that faggy rian johnson gangster noir paint on it that probably awed you

they should do it more like wayne's world and austin powers. make the same film but give it a completely new setting

>If he's given breathing room simply to play around in the land of Star Wars, without needing be tied down by the Skywalker/JedivsSith saga, I think he could make a reasonably enjoyable movie.
He shouldn't have been picked to direct that movie then

It was happening at the same time, the reason they were cutting off the nose and arms/legs of the younger one is because the older one, came back in time and escaped when he should have been killed. So they mutilated the younger one and tricked the older guy to come to them and get killed.

>Merchandise stalling because they are trying to JEW Lucas out of his percentage
>Dying theme park
>Cancelled cartoons
>pulled back plans for movies every year and taking a "3 year break"
>Angry divided uninterested fanbase with a movie coming out in about 4 months.

Yeah lets give this faggot another show and throw some money at him.

I can't wait to see them ruin Marvel too.

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>universe consistency
>star "midichlorians" wars
Stop while you're ahead

The only thing that matters about film is presentation fuck plot

THAT'S RIGHT SHOW THOSE INCELS

YOU'RE NOT TOTALLY IMPLODING A MULTI-BILLION DOLLAR FRANCHISE

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>merchandise stalling
zoomers don't buy toys they buy video and still most stores with clothes still have star wars t shirts selling like hotcakes.

Rian is patrician.

Oh no the Kylofag

Rian's trilogy will never see the light of day, this is just them stalling. They can't outright say they cancelled this shit because it would be admiting that The Last Jedi was trash, right when its sequel it's releasing. After Episode IX, this whole Rian Johnson thing will fade away.

might as well right? If they're gonna do it, might as well burn some money along the way.

?
>Rian's trilogy will never see the light of day, this is just them stalling
Keep coping you fucking bluepilled freak

user I bet you ten bucks they make all those movies. Just to rub your incel face in it. So what if they completely lose everyone's interest? SO WHAT?

Zoomers don't buy anything. They live with their parents and the one that do have jobs have to save up to buy vape pens.

If you think he's "patrician" you shouldn't post here and you're just a contrarian shill.

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Sure kid. D&D is still doing their trilogy

Star Wars is Disney’s DC.

Why seethe? This is a great thing. 3 more Johnson movies and Star Wars is fulyl in its grave. Problem solved.

What is wrong with the world?

Why can't humanity just collectively say "No, that's stupid. We're not going to let you do that."?

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If it hadn't been a mainline installment I might have a shred of sympathy.

>zoomer don't buy anything
Exactly why declining merchandise sales for star wars toys shouldn't matter when you're a monopoly

Star Wars is better than DC and Marvel no matter what, capeshitter

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Because thankfully the entire world isn't NPC tier with shit taste in cinema, rian johnson is a fucking saint

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Based. Let the past die. Kill it if you have to. Rian will trigger you lowlife faggots, and Star Wars for a new audience can finally thrive. Destruction is the precursor to creation.

Fuck OTtags
Fuck "It had potential"fags
Fuck RLMfags
Fuck polfags
Fuck prequelfags
Fuck Rogueonefags
Fuck Solofags
And
FUCK
GEORGE LUCAS!

Rian Johnson is an absolute manchild but he has potential, if he would only ever sack up and try to be serious and stop hiding behind a cover of irony. Right now he's too cowardly to actually try to present himself with any gravitas.

You can stop acting like it wasn't the best SW since ESB now.

>Paige Turners, they were not
Why was Yoda talking about a porn actress?

I wonder if he'll ever direct a couple of episodes of Better Call Saul like he did with Breaking Bad. That guy needs to stick to television and not do any writing.

>rian johnson is a fucking saint

youtu.be/xi-1NchUqMA

Now this is based and honestly, quite redpilled

Based fuck plotfags too
TLJ was serious and had consequences thats why manchildren were so distraught there wasn't another bing bing death star to blow up and that rey wasn't skywalker

He does as he's told.
He makes things move around on screen.
He delivers a film on budget and on time.
He likes propaganda.

He's perfect, so why wouldn't Disney give him a trilogy?

Still looks better than anything else that has come out the last 18 months

>He does as he's told.
>Written and Directed by Rian Johnson
>he also is an editor and edited his debut film Brick
>essentially involved in writing, editing and directing every movie he does
>he does as he's told
Kek

>TLJ was serious and had consequences
You didn't even watch the movie did you?

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>Star Wars is better than DC and Marvel no matter what, capeshitter

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Television is pleb shit you're a pleb for ever watching BCS. He elevated BB

As long as IX significantly underperforms, and I think it will, he won't get his trilogy.

It was amusing how all the promo stuff for Knives Out noticibly never says "From the director of The Last Jedi" or indeed ever mentions it at all. Behind all their bluff and bluster they know what's up in marketing.

I did the new jedi order and resistance will have to exist without Luke Skywalker that's a big consequence and the main reason you and your pleb manchildren friends freaked out over The Last Kino

Pic related is you?
It's better than both combined even if you don't like any of them.

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Why were people decrying Snyder's specific vision of the DC universe never described as internet trolls?

>marvelcucks and dcfags are the ones hating on Rian Johnson kino and plaguing Star Wars with their shit tier film opinions because they consume Marvel and DC shit and like it

Makes sense actually.

>JJ Abrams flick
>under-performing with the masses
>literally Sheev in the movie
It's gonna do more than the middle entry just like the original trilogy and prequel trilogy
1>3>2

Probably because nothing Synder has made was ever this critically acclaimed

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GotG2 was a much better deconstruction of tropes than TLJ.

>critically acclaimed
>paid for by disney

Sorry sweetie. They buy scores and opinions.

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>he doesn't know
Aladdin, The Lion King, Nutcracker, Marry Poppins, Wrinkle in Time and Dumbo all got bad reviews from critics you dumb cuckime fag

Try again you have no original thought

AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 5 minutes from TLJ has better direction than Gunn has ever shat out in anything his drama was unironically weak and cringey especially that blue faggots death

TFA set literally everything up for him

>As many as there are Marvel movies
Did Rian unintentionally give Star Wars a quick and merciful end?

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I care less about the actual movie and hate that this faggot is always yawning or sleeping on-set.

For a shit NPC movie that those fags who praised TFA would have wanted.
JJ set up nothing but the most lame ass shit possible

Rian's a fucking saint for doing otherwise you dumb nigger who wanted MUH REY 2.0

His "mysticism" is the equivalent of a toy comercial.

Have you tried shooting a movie that a couple hundred millions of budget while writing and directing it lad?

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That is most likely the reason anons on Yea Forums look down on capeshit in general: meaninglessness, and a lack of intimacy.

Wew lad. Unironically based. Fuck Lucas dick riders. He made 2 good movies so fucking what?

If you only watched the last 2 minutes of the movie, maybe.

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>It's gonna do more than the middle entry

I honestly believe you are in for a surprise. But I guess we will see. We will know in four months so not long to wait.

You sound autistic.

Oh no the retard

user I'm usually completely right when it comes to knowing what movies gross and which bombs. There's a big difference between a manlet Solo movie that nobody wanted coming out 6 months after TLJ and Episode IX which is supposedly going to have Luke Skywalker and Emperor Palpatine in it and possible Anakin

It's going to gross over TLJ easily. Just like ROTS grossed more than AOTC and ROTJ grossed more than ESB

>He had everything set up for him in TFA
>If by everything you mean Muh REY 2.0 stronk womyn
>you sound autistic
Don't hate the messenger, plebs majorly loved TFA and hated TLJ

>the scene was nice and unexpected in a good way
It's ok to be dumb. But it's not ok to say dumb things are good.

Considering the SW Toys in toy stores ended up in plastic recycling, I'd say no.

>Aladdin, The Lion King, Nutcracker, Marry Poppins, Wrinkle in Time and Dumbo all got bad reviews from critics you dumb cuckime fag
Not that user, but disney didnt just play 4 billion for those movies.

The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi were the highest grossing movies of their years, buddy

Thank you for that bit of information that is unrelated to the topic.

>it's unrelated to the topic of buying a franchise for 4 billion
>then having a 2 billion dollar movie and two billion dollar movies

As I said yesterday, I was so fucking bored watching TLJ that midway through I paused to watch a stevenmreinfo review of an mre... that I had already seen before.

Reading comprehension dumb dumb. The topic was "Disney paying for good reviews"

He can do whatever he wants. I'm not going to watch it, fuck Star Wars, so what do I care?

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Everyone hates midichlorians, for the same reason they hate lightspeed raming

>The only thing that matters about film is presentation fuck plot

Fuck no. Plot is only one of many things that matter in a film.

Not really, no. It's mostly just manchildren and womanchildren

Well, on a purely subjective and anecdotal level, I've seen every sw movie that has come out while I've been alive on opening weekend but I have zero interest in IX after TLJ and won't be going to see it at all.

Honestly TLJ left such a bad taste I dont even want to watch a rip or anything. I dont care what happens to Finn, Rose, Poe, Rey, etc, don't care how their storylines resolve.

Here's my hot take.
I'm concerned but I'm willing to give him a chance. I don't blame Rian for trying something different considering that TFA was nothing but rehash of ANH and people complained about it night and day (and rightfully so).
But I think Rian took it too far in the other direction by changing too much, his treatment of Luke was God damn awful.
TFA was too safe, it felt like it was written by a team of calculated robots, but TLJ was written by just one dude and it came off as fanfic. He needs help with the writing and the films might be pretty good.

Which they clearly don't since their live action remakes of well liked movies mostly have been getting trash reviews

That's every movie today with a female/black protagonist.
>I didn't like this movie because of x, y and z
>lol you just hate women incel!

>Fuck no. Plot is only one of many things that matter in a film.
Plot is the one thing that matters least

>casting
>cinematography/lighting/camerawork
>director
>composer
>pacing, tone, atmosphere
>editing, sound editing, effects
All matter more

Lucas unironically had Luke on that island after his temple being massacred by a jedi killer in his treatment for Episode VII

I've seen Episode I, III, III, VII and VIII in theaters opening weekend/night/day
Saw the OT re-released in cinemas back in the mid/late 90s

I'm moreso less excited about IX because it's JJ Abrams but I'm not put off by it or TLJ. For me RO and Solo were more insulting.

Keep posting the propaganda, Thanh. We all know that Disney pays Vietnamese troll farms quite well relative other jobs there.

>kinos like Brick and Looper

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Why isnt he blacklisted for life forced to work retail for the rest of his life? Why do these rich fucks never have to suffer any consequences to their actions and if anything get more money/work?

Listen moron. The target audience for the new lion king etc. movies are people who go watch movies opening night and ignore ratings. These people are couples with children and mexicans. Paying for better reviews is a waste of money since the movie attracts a reliable audience. Flagship movies like starwars are different. herd mentality is a thing and movies like ghost busters (2016) and Black Panther are examples of how corporate meddling can help movie exposure. It's just basic business now.

>Lucas unironically had Luke on that island after his temple being massacred by a jedi killer in his treatment for Episode VII
I don't mind he was on an island, but I think JJ and Rian executed it really poorly, more so JJ.

Can confirm. Me and my gf took our Mexican to see it opening night, and all of us had a wonderful time.

>Lucas unironically had Luke on that island after his temple being massacred by a jedi killer in his treatment for Episode VII

Yeah but in his treatment they meet Luke in Episode 7 and his was still connected to the force or at least thats what it looked like in the art work

>If he's given breathing room simply to play around in the land of Star Wars, without needing be tied down by the Skywalker/JedivsSith saga

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>It really makes you think and figure out what the essence of ‘Star Wars’ is for me and what that will look like moving forward.”
The fuck? He didn't even get what was the essence of Star Wars was in the movie he DID do

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>npc response
Everytime

Rian Johnson is literally fucking based and one of the few good directors under 50

We know, Rian

>There is no "next." Star Wars is not about the galaxy, it's about Luke and Anakin Skywalker. The rebels, the empire, the Force, the jedi, robots, aliens, bounty hunters, etc. are just window dressing and/or plot devices to advance the story of Anakin and Luke.
>Star Wars is fundamentally about these two characters. Nobody really cares about the "Star Wars universe," because anyone can just make stuff up as they go.

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It's funny because you can just tell it's women making these decisions (kennedy being a bit but not the sole reason, Iger basically has no balls so)

It's just how they think.

That's why the John Williams' accompanying soundtrack was better than it was in TFA right?

literally every single thing in this post is wrong

Not that guy and I don't even know if it's better or not but TFA's soundtrack is an extremely low bar. Might as well say just say exists it.

>extremely low bar
Just like rogue one and solo. TLJ has the best soundtrack that accompanies the film and has some nice usage, not as nice as the PT but definitely in the spirit of things more than TFA

youtube.com/watch?v=9L7miwXL4og
best part is from 2:15 onward and before that is a medley of sorts but you can tell theres emotion and thought actually put into the composing

>There is no "next." Star Wars is not about the galaxy, it's about Luke and Anakin Skywalker. The rebels, the empire, the Force, the jedi, robots, aliens, bounty hunters, etc. are just window dressing and/or plot devices to advance the story of Anakin and Luke.

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I know two zoomers (9yo) and they love Cars toys. They know Star Wars exists, but they just don't watch it or care.

I feel sad for them fast n furious niggas

Hey I'm not really a big fan of The Last Jedi but anytime I go to a thread related to TLJ, I usually see this picture of Moses by the burning bush. I'm curious as to what the connection is between Moses and Luke Skywalker in The Last Jedi. Would you mind explaining?

Why not just cut the younger ones throat then you fucking retards? There's no point for the extra steps but to make a tense scene.

The plot is weak as fuck and filled with stupid contrivances and flashy moments to wow plebs like you. It literally hand waves time paradoxes away ffs.

Rian is a terrible writer.

I post the picture to bait people but Yoda uses a burning tree to send Luke a message just like God did for Moses
So it's actually similar

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>Why not just cut the younger ones throat then you fucking retards? There's no point for the extra steps but to make a tense scene
I actually thought of this before and found the answer
The answer is they don't want the older ones body being found by the policeman with matching DNA of someone who is much younger
They are criminals and gang members who want no authorities involved, so they want to actually dispose of the body completely, which is why they make him come to them and then shoot him and bring him inside to dispose of

Yeah, this That's why they write the address on the arm because they want to collect the body. If they just killed him there and then the older version would drop dead and implicate them.

sounds like someone's been self-medicating and venting their resentment on social media

He pretty obviously had nothing but contempt for everything Episode VII set up, which is fine because Episode VII is garbage.

Wow, that's a neat observation. This completely flew over my head despite how much stuff (good and bad) I heard about The Last Jedi.

He turned the rape into a murder.

If there was a time in Star Wars movie to rip off Cowboy Bebop, doing that for the movie Solo might have made it of noticeably better quality.

I mean, Guardians of the Galaxy IS one of the better Star Wars movies...

That doesn't make any sense. It's the future where disposing of bodies is difficult, not the "past". The past is shown to be a lawless Wild West. It's literally the central premise. Despite that they still go guns blazing at Bruce Willis in the future because fuck actually sticking with your own internal laws and kill someone lmao.

It's an awful film and people try too hard to justify it.

Reminds me of a scene from Inuyashiki

> It's the future where disposing of bodies is difficult, not the "past". The past is shown to be a lawless Wild West.
Nononononono it's impossible to get rid of them in the future and possible in the past. There are still massive amounts of law enforcement that seem to crack down harder in the future and actually get shit done.

They are definitely wanting both bodies to not be found out about at all, the young body and the old, if authorities found the older body chopped up or something they would look into it like crazy.

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If you were born in like 2005 or later maybe...
And like in Scotts Exodus: Gods and Kings we see that Moses is dealing with his faith just like Luke is in the movie

Yes, only thing he liked about it was the slight banterish OT humor being back, which only really happens with Poe's opening quip. That's probably all he liked.

Bruce Willis disappeared when JGL shot himself so I don’t know what you’re talking about.

This is peak Yea Forums contrarianism.

No it's actually the one contrarian thing Yea Forums has been right about for years.

Not if he just got his throat cut? I mean it would be literally impossible to figure out how he died. The wounds appear as if 20 years old. So would the slashed neck that killed him, logically. Plus no one would actually do it to the old version, he'd drop dead in an alley somewhere with nothing linking him to the mob.

I'm just saying it might not be ideal but it's not impossible. Especially as, like the move shows, the "past" is supposed to be a ghetto wild west.

Their shitty guns also pissed me off to no end. Just use literally anything else.

If they cut his throat or something the older guys body will be found and analyzed for DNA and they could see there is either no records or records of someone 30 years younger

Maybe that was the only time anyone had ever done that, ie kill their younger self

yeah well x wings are smaller than a capital ship so they wouldn't do any damage

Wrong, fucking Black Panther made more than TLJ.

You're assuming they have those records. Nothing in the movie indicates that iirc.

More importantly, what then? They have an old body, no sign who killed him. Potentially one that doesn't match their records (if they have those - which I doubt).

And what happens if he just disappears like when JGL shoots himself to kill Willis? As his user mentioned You also didn't respond to the fact the future mob kill Willis' wife without a second thought when it's """impossible""" to dispose of the bodies. Isn't that a pretty glaring hole?

The movie is shit. None of the plot would even happen if they used normal guns. Literally all major points happen because they use weapons less effective than musketoons from 1650.

>let's make a Batman movie, but without legacy characters

Black Panther came out in 2018 you dumbo

Good point, could be a first time thing.

the capital ship took out an entire fleet

Maybe they literally don't know he will disappear since nobody has ever killed the younger self to kill the older self and since he isn't there to see disappear they don't want to risk it. So they end up disposing of the bodies and still getting away with it clean, mobsters don't have to always act 100% rationally or intelligently. But they do often do things to keep secret.

Here's my two cents. I hate that prick, Ruin Johnson. However, I hate Disney more. If the rumors are true, they purposely wanted to shit on the OT to make way for Disney characters. JJ started it and Ruin continued it. Kennedy and Iger should get the full blame for the mess SW is in now.

I can accept that, if they do need to get the body what they did make a sense but in the rules of the universe being what they are the movie still seems pretty flawed.

Like the last Jedi he has set pieces and puts them in without thinking how they actually work just because he wants them in. Not the mark of a good director.

>Disney stills gives Rain another trilogy despite TLJ being a shitshow
>GoT writers also recruited despite them being proven hacks the moment they ran out of source material and were mostly left on their own
>All of this combined with Disney's terrible management of anything related to Star Wars
By this point its an unintentional comedy

>Solo bombs
>Galaxy's Edge bombs
>toys sell like shit
>tv shows are cancelled left and right
Yeah Rian, keep making those SW fans seethe, it's working great so far lmao

>Brick and Looper
Almost as bad as TLJ if such thing is even possible

I have 3 nephews that are around 5-9 years old. They give 0 fucks about Star Wars, but they love Marvel movies and characters. For them, it's about the movies and characters being cool, and none of the Star Wars stuff looks cool to them. My sister said the kids were bored out of their mind watching Force awakens and last Jedi, they thought they were girl movies. I imagine most kids find them boring and have no interest.

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>He will be kicked off half way throw for "Creative differences" and the movie will have 80% reshoots

he's literally the only guy who has delivered a new star wars movie on budget, without behind scenes clusterfucks over creative differences and without requiring emergency reshoots

this and
But I don't think Disney will greenlight a "good" Star Wars.

>Canto bight
>canto
>one of the sections into which certain long poems are divided.
He did nothing wrong

Hey Ron Solo bombed because nobody wanted it or your stale flick directing ass. Plus it legit couldn't have been shot any worse.

>that star wars nerd always spamming this gif and the samurai shit

don't you have a life my man?

>Hey Ron Solo bombed because nobody wanted it
Yeah nobody wants another SW movie after TLJ, we all agree on that

>nobody wanted a manlet solo movie 6 months after a star wars movie when star wars movies historically were 2 or 3 years apart.
FTFY Ronald

Sure Rian, now show me your COPE about Galaxy's Edge being a massive nuclear BEE OU EM BEE

>galaxy's edge is bombing because of Rian Johnson
Lel ;'')
Can't wait for his trilogy

In all seriousness if they released Solo in december instead of 6 months after TLJ it would have grossed a couple hundred million more easily. It was drowned out by the summer disney capeshits

Bullshit. Brick was awful, Looper was a boring mess, and his Star Wars film was garbage. He has never made a good film and he never will.

One thing I always love is how quickly and eagerly shills will throw Solo and it's entire production cast and crew under the bus.
"Lol nobody wanted to see that movie at all. Who would ever DREAM of seeing a movie about Han Solo!?"

Hey, if you knew that ahead of time why did you green light it, dumbass?

>Solo bombs after TLJ
It's a c-coincidence
>a Star Wars theme park is empty in the middle of the summer just after TLJ
Alt-right i-incels are behind this!
>toys sell like shit
E-EVERYBODY LOVES KYLO STOP SHOWING ME FACTS PROVING OTHERWISE REEEEEEEEEE

And so on

Another trilogy????? WHEN THE FUCK WILL IT STOP FUCK

Disney is scared of releasing Episode IX trailers now, that's how dead Star Wars is after The Last Turd

>There is no "next." Star Wars is not about the galaxy, it's about Luke and Anakin Skywalker. The rebels, the empire, the Force, the jedi, robots, aliens, bounty hunters, etc. are just window dressing and/or plot devices to advance the story of Anakin and Luke.

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Total fucking bullshit. I was worried from the first day I heard he was gonna direct, because of how extremely shit his movies are.

he does the chris-chan sweetheart-from-the-ground-up autism writing

and another and another and another and another and another and another

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Fucking this. Let's encourage Disney to destroy themselves. Why do we want to help them make hood decisions?

Well contrarian, my response would be that, it's too soon to tell; whether he's a good director or bad. He's bearly made 3 movies.
> frankly they don't look so good.

>toys sell like shit
>E-EVERYBODY LOVES KYLO STOP SHOWING ME FACTS PROVING OTHERWISE REEEEEEEEEE

No no, the shill arguments that (poorly) try to counter toys selling like shit is usually:
"people buy from Amazon now!"
(This one assumes you don't know about the Amazon Top Action Figures chart where it usually shows Marvel stuff outperforming Star Wars toys by a vast margin. Hell, even around the time of Solo, a Funko Pop of Superman from Justice League, a movie named as a bigger disaster than Last Jedi, was doing better than Star Wars toys.)
And then "Kids don't play with toys anymore!"
(This also ignores everything else mentioned earlier, plus how even on Hasbro reports they mention that Marvel stuff is doing well. Also, Titan Heroes line, a line that's targeted for kids and not collectors, have Spider-Man, Miles Morales, and Black Panther all out-performing Star Wars toys.)

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The teaser hyped up people with Palpatines laugh that even hated TLJ, it's coming out soon.

>The teaser hyped up people with Palpatines laugh that even hated TLJ,

Where?

>Star Wars is oversatured because of The Last Jedi and not because of
>rebels
>resistance
>solo
>rogue one
>yadda yadda
>disney + shit
Should have just focused on 7 8 and 9 and not done the spin off shit yet, that's disneys problem. Nothing Rian did effected Solo, nobody fucking wanted a Han Solo movie without Harrison Ford and nobody wanted a manlet younger version of him.

I'm not a shill, I'm telling the truth nobody wanted that movie and it bombed because of no interest in a Han Solo movie that had fired directors and no Harrison Ford.

A majority of star wars fans just wanted 7 8 and 9 and rogue one was a nice surprise. Solo wasn't anything that anyone actually asked for, you know this.

>After episode 9 people will have to wait years for the next film to come out because Disney wants to slow down releases
>When it finally does come out it will be a Rian Johnson movie
This will be the definite end of the franchise, right? Any interest will die off in the several years between releases, and when a new film finally does come out the name Rian Johnson will turn people off.

Then why waste money making it?
Makes me question Disney's decision making.

>>rebels
What? Another show that bombed because of TLJ?
>>resistance
See above
>>solo
Never stood a chance after TLJ, poor guys
>>rogue one
Made a billion if I recall correctly
>>yadda yadda
No argument huh?
>>disney + shit
Not even out yet

And this doesn't even cover the toys and theme parks bombing, TLJ making only 60% of the previous movie and so on

>>>resistance
>See above

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He's not wrong. Using the same fucking characters forever is a terrible idea. Luke deserved a better death though.

Because they make so much money that they didn't lose money because of it it was a gamble and they have billions and billions of dollars to utilize every year. And everyone wanted Star Wars to get the marvel treatment of movies every year. Everyone being marvel fans that also like star wars.

What gets me about all this though is that there still doesn't appear to be any solid ideas for it. And yet they're arbitrarily deciding it's a trilogy.
To me, the idea should come first. The conversation should be, "I have this amazing idea! It's going to take three movies to do it all!" Instead it's "well we're not sure what direction we're going yet, but the unknown is what's exciting etc etc."

It just seems backwards. Now you have to come up with material to fill three movies. It's artifice. Compulsory. Anti-art.

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>The rebels, the empire, the Force, the jedi, robots, aliens, bounty hunters, etc. are just window dressing and/or plot devices to advance the story of Anakin and Luke.
>Star Wars is fundamentally about these two characters. Nobody really cares about the "Star Wars universe," because anyone can just make stuff up as they go.
>The sequel trilogy is pointless and directionless because it seeks to remake Star Wars as some kind of grand mythos, but that's not what it was meant to be. It was a big-budget Flash Gordon, that's it.

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It will be hype as fuck. Rian Johnson is unironically a top tier director for blockbusters, you want fucking Shane Black to helm it or some shit?

He is unironically going to make a kino trilogy to rival the prequels in terms of ambition and to dually rip those who hated george and made him sell the franchise another new asshole with movies that are made with a sole vision that he is not going to pander to 90-100% of the audience like JJ. Lucas and Rian both aimed for a 50-50 with the prequels and tlj and it shows

And yet the resulting bomb caused them to shy away from that tactic completely. Remember them talking about a Boba Fett movie? So they made a movie that was a bad idea that OBVIOUSLY no one wanted just because they were Disney and they could? Even if it hurt them enough to cancel projects? Pretty questionable decision making if you ask me.

my point is they should have done all of that after doing a trilogy instead of during, you dumby
it's simple, that's why the sequel trilogy has been pieced together and wasn't planned out like the OT or PT moreso

Boba Fett movie would be reddit tier and completely jumping the shark type shit, that we don't need or want. Now they are actually taking the one good idea for a spinoff film, Obi Wan, where they could actually make it for 100-150 mil easily and rake in a profit, but they want to do a series and it will have amateur hour stuff going on compared to even JJ, Garreth Edwards, Rian etc

Avellone > Johnson

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This bait isn't even coherent. Your anger is affecting your hands. Take the time to calm yourself before hitting send.

I read your first few lines in Kylo Ren's voice
>it's time to let it all die
>the rebels
>the empire
>the force
>the jedi
>the robots
>the aliens
>the bounty hunters
>Rey I want you to join me

You want coherency, Rian Johnson doesn't pander to make a movie that "everyone" will enjoy, like JJ abrams.

Like Lucas did with splitting the audience of sw fans, Rian said, hold my beer. Both are examples of artists getting ragged on by pleb masses that like a big franchise but just want bing bing death star flicks

So you agree Disney is mismanaging this franchise?

Probably but Rian Johnson is uniroincally the only guy they have in place doing something right and not giving a fuck for artistic purposes like he should.

It's been split alright. Practically shattered.

>Probably but Chris Avellone is unironically the only guy they have in place doing something right
Fixed

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I like that shills are now acknowledging Lucas instead of trashing him to prop up JJ and Rian

I'm sorry but "who"?

I'm not a shill I'm the patrician who doesn't hate on Rian Johnson

>good star wars directors
>george lucas
>irvin kerschner
>richard marquand
>rian johnson

>at least you tried
>ron howard
>garreth edwards
>JJ abrams

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TLJ only purpose was to shit not create. Kotor 2 added so much to the lore of old republic that you can't fucking talk about Kotor 1 lore and story without mentioning it, which might be a reason why only Kotor 2 threads manage to survive while Kotor 1 die 50 posts in. In Kotor 2 characters from previous game are done justice, more so than in original, are treated like heroes and those that return have satisfying development and more complex personality. Story is written by people who actually liked and knew SW and EU. Characters are likeable or interesting or both and story and lore is intriguing.

Kotor 2 deals with ptsd, force philosophy, conflict between jedi and sith, politics, Mandalorian culture and philosophy, Jedi hypocrisy and Sith stupidity, state of the Galaxy after war, foreshadowing bigger threat, asking questions about past events and looking for answers etc

TLJ just shits on everything without purpose and without meaning for no reason. It brings nothing.

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You either think half of star wars fans are retarded or you don't. If you don't then you support them trashing the prequels as well as the last kino.

>irvin kerschner
>director

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TLJ is kinography, one could argue it's even the best entry.

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$5 HAVE BEEN DEPOSITED INTO YOUR DISNEY EMPLOYEE BANK ACCOUNT

I'm not concerned with half of anything. A movie is either trash or it isn't.

>KOTOR 2 is kinography
Fixed

>kerschner isn't a director but marquand is

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kotor II is probably the best thing besides star wars bounty hunter in terms of star wars content outside of the movies, it's nice and so is TLJ

Looper completely lost me towards the end when that rival Looper (the Kid I think he was called?) died from charging at the main guy.
The Kid had previously talked about how his weapon was better than the standard Looper weapon because it could be used long range, while the main guy's weapon has close range only. And then when it came time for them to fight the Kid rushes in close range and gets blasted because of it instead of using his weapon to shoot at him from long range. And it wasn't even a situation where he needed to get close because they were on an open road.
In retrospect it's a major red flag for TLJ because it shows Rian favours spectacle and things that are cool in the moment over story and character consistency.

>someone who had Lucas do all the work to the point where Joe Johnston has said that ESB is "more of a Lucas film than a Kershner film".

"I failed you Ben, I'm sorry"
- Luke at the end of The Last Jedi written and directed by Rian Johnson

looks like Rian plays kotor ;)

faggot

> I liked The Force Awakens a lot,

What work did he do? It seems different from ANH besides scripting

FUUUUUCK ! IM KILLING EVERYBODY !

>not the far more thematically superior sequel
>when that quote is ripped right from RotS

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KOTOR II did everything TLJ tried but better. Besides destroy the franchise.

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It's fucking Hollywood - you have to actively try to fuck up the technical aspects of a film. The production is filled with niche niggers like directors of photography whose job is to be hyper competent at one specific aspect of filming. Being "well shot" means absolutely nothing. All that matters is plot, characters, and tone, all three of which Rian had complete control over and all three of which were completely fucked up in the film.

He basically ignored everything Jewjew set up in TFA. Saying Rian was "shackled by episode VII" is a retarded lie. His trilogy is going to be worse than the prequels and will likely be the final nails in the star wars franchise. Even that stupid cunt Kathleen is obviously upset by how terrible her little soiboi performed.

Kotor II is a fucking video game that you play and control, TLJ is cinema

>a VIDEO GAME has superior storytelling than a movie

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ROTS AND TLJ are the pure kinos outside of IV and V
If it ripped off ROTS fanboys would have loved it more, consider that

KOTOR 2 is severally overated. It had some good ideas, but the execution of them was horrible.
Take Kreia for example. Her anti force ideals are a cool topic to explore. In the story though she was just a generic evil sith, and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made, which shows she has no real character of her own and only existed to be a hurdle to the player.

>KOTOR II is the pure kino
Fixed

>a bingo game that can take you 20-40 hours to play has more going on than a 2 hour 20 min movie
Wow I'm so glad we have you here to tell us these things, 3PO

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>and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made
You haven't played the game if you say that.

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Kotor II could be kino if someone filmed it but it looks like D&D might be the ones doing it LOL

>2 hours 20 min
>when even watching cutscenes on youtube for that long provides a better product

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Not him I'm playing the game and sometimes she's a bitch from our previous convo and agreeing with me out of nowhere when I'm responding similarly and I'm over halfway probably

That's nonsense. Did you help the husband find his wife on Nar Shaddaa? She praises you if you tell him it was his effort. The easiest way to get influence with kreia is say you'll think about it. Easy peasy

>cutscenes from ps1 graphics
>better than anything in Episode I-VIII

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>In the story though she was just a generic evil sith, and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made, which shows she has no real character of her own and only existed to be a hurdle to the player.

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Like, protip for getting Kreia to like you in this game; recognize that she might have SOME idea of what the fuck she's talking about. She's not about BLUE or RED, she's about reactive decisions given the context of the moment, and long lasting effects that cause the universe itself to solve its own problems instead of you being some spandex wearing superhero that compulsively feels the need to butt into international politics.

She's as far from a generic evil Sith as you can get.

>Her anti force ideals are a cool topic to explore.
Jesus Christ. Let me help you out.

Atris is the only person to ever mention the whole "literally kill the force" plan. Ever. In the entire game, from the end on, that is the only mention of killing the force (not counting Nihilus just chowing down on all life, which, I think we can all agree was not Kreia's master plan). This is because it's a lie. Just like "I'm going to stab myself and then you'll die too" is also a lie, because the Exile not only manages to survive Kreia's death, but the death of THOUSANDS of force bonds (even though that one took some desperate measures). Just like Kreia leading the Sith to conquer the galaxy is ALSO a lie, because she fucking hated the Sith.

>she's [He's] about reactive decisions given the context of the moment, and long lasting effects that cause the universe itself to solve its own problems instead of you being some spandex wearing superhero that compulsively feels the need to butt into international politics.

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Goes to show how crap those are.

>In the story though she was just a generic evil sith, and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made
Reading a TVTropes or Wikia article would produce a less wrong statement. The only way to do that is mindlessly only do black and white choices.

kotor 2 has so many tiny details in it and the way it melds gameplay and story together is fucking lovely and gets my braindick so hard every time i play it

>kreia has force camo at level 1, which is why none of the jedi masters see her when you take her with you to their planets

>kreia genuinely wants people to figure shit out for themselves and not rely on others, which is why if you make the refugees give into the exchanges demands shes overjoyed and gives you the biggest influence gain you can get with her as they will be forced to deal with the issue instead of you or someone else fixing it for them

>force powers that work best for companions are tied to their personalities. bao dur for example wants to build shields and protect others from the horrors of war, and with his inability to use robes his only way for defense is armor. all light side force powers that can be used with armor are shields and healing.

>kreia can negate influence loss from companions if shes there with them, because your party fucking hates kreia and would rather side with you than agree with her

>kreia through you actually wins. you effectively destroy both the jedi and sith. and only you and what youve learned remains.

>kreia will call you out for min maxing and not role playing

>and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made
>Literally all Kreia says is to consider the consequences of actions
>I should be able to feel smart for saying no fuck you I'll do what I want!
>Reeeee why can't I just get the good boy points and get the blue ending!

>which shows she has no real character of her own and only existed to be a hurdle to the player.
Past all the plot nuances and Star Warsy stuff, the big advancement this game made was to create the best written female character in a game ever. This is even a greater accomplishment if you consider that the writing staff, judging from the credits, was all male.

Have any games before or after this tried to write in the protaganist's mother as a deep, main character? You of course have miles and miles of paternal icons scattered everywhere, to the point where it's clichéd (for exhibit A, see progenitor unit Gandalf), but the feminine point of view is utterly lacking. Part of this is a function of the demographics of the developers working in the game industry I guess, but you'd think a shockingly simple idea as writing an in-depth maternal figure would have gotten more mileage elsewhere.

Kreia has gone through 3 names, 2 costumes, and countless lies at this point, but you always get the sense that she's stayed true to her own character throughout. That's good writing.

>In the story though she was just a generic evil sith
She's nothing like a normal sith.
>and would criticise the player no matter what choice they made
You literally can tell her that what you did was the right thing to do though
What would you have said in real life to counter her claim that there could be consequences to this that you hadn't considered?
>which shows she has no real character of her own and only existed to be a hurdle to the player
She's one of the most beloved characters there. She's a rather motherly figure, in a twisted and manipulative way.

Why did TLJ need to be that long?

>2 hours 20 minutes
>long
>not ideal
>three 40 minute acts

>He basically ignored everything Jewjew set up in TFA.

Good.

>Even that stupid cunt Kathleen is obviously upset by how terrible her little soiboi performed.

Yeah the women who has multiple times kicked people immediately the fuck off Star Wars movies the instant she's not liked what she's seeing is secretly seething as she gives Rian three more movies.

You're saying that a video game is better than TLJ, I agree.

>Imagine sitting through 4 minutes of this guy

>premieres at 10pm on a school night
>ITS FOR KIDS

Disney management is the most corporate piece of shit ever. they make products for kids that kids find boring yet sell it to adults who they actively insult. they aren't even shooting themselves in the foot at this point, they are just biting their own leg off with filled down teeth