Why is Citizen Kane so highly rated? I enjoyed Casablanca and 12 Angry Men, but I just couldn't stand this one. Does anyone feel the same way? Am I just crazy?
Why is Citizen Kane so highly rated? I enjoyed Casablanca and 12 Angry Men, but I just couldn't stand this one...
Adam White
Ian Brown
If its black and white its automatically shit
Isaac King
Because you can watch it today and it actually comes off as a movie, using the same styles and direction we would use today, but it came out so long ago. Compare it to any of its contemporaries and its night and day how ahead of its time it was.
Its not the greatest movie ever, but really special
Grayson Bell
This is true. It is a land mark film in the history of cinema and a cornerstone of any kind of education in film criticism or film making.
However it does not change the fact that the movie is incredibly boring, the main character is horribly unlikeable, the pacing is slow as fuck, and the ending has been spoiled to everyone since birth about what Rosebud is that there is zero mystery left to the movie. I can't stand Citizen Kane, and I know there are others like me who rolled their eyes when they had to watch it for the sixth time in school.
Jack Hernandez
>Compare it to any of its contemporaries and its night and day how ahead of its time it was
How many films from the 30s and 40s have you seen?
Lucas Sullivan
>the main character is horribly unlikeable
The fact that you think this is a valid criticism is how I know you're a faggot
Juan Carter
it’s one of those movies that are supremely boring but because it was innovative for its time it is considered “important”.
Jonathan Brown
>it was innovative for its time
It wasn't very innovative. The only real innovative part about it is that a Hollywood studio gave the director complete creative control. Didn't really do anything new besides that
Jonathan Sanchez
At least six
Jose Thomas
I'm not familiar enough with film history to comment on the "innovation" aspects, but there was something jarring about this film I can't quite put my finger on. Perhaps the bombastic noises and transitions? It seemed like a set of scenes strung together without real narrative momentum or flow.
Jonathan Evans
I worked at a small media company that would take public domain movies, upscale them, then post on their app.
Theres way more crap from the 30’s and 40’s than the Criterion Collection would lead you to believe
Jayden Wilson
If you watched more, you'd see how wrong you are. Stylistically, Kane isn't that different than a lot of films that came before it
Michael Flores
Cringe
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Based
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Brody King
Dont respond to my (you)’s
Wyatt Bailey
Cringe
Based
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Based
Jonathan Gonzalez
Cringe
Jose Miller
>based!
>cringe!
Why don't you say something substantive you retarded faggot.
Samuel Adams
>public domain movies
No shit, you're watching garbage public domain movies no one gives a shit about
there are good pd films, but most of them are there because they're shit and no one cares about them
Grayson Brooks
Vertigo beat it out for #1 on the BFI top 100 movies list, and rightfully so- Citizen Kane is the pleb's choice.
Jace Peterson
Based
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Cooper Ward
I really really enjoyed it. I dunno, man. Just scratches an itch, y'know?
Isaac Carter
no idea what you're talking about
Jeremiah Sanders
Based
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Cringe
Jayden King
Because it's a real movie unlike movies today and adaptations of stageshit.
Liam Fisher
Based
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Gavin Wilson
Surprisingly, a lot had stars and recognizable names. We put up one called need for speed, and it turns out the movie studio got the name from it.
Often with these old movies, studios dont care or forget to renew them, and they fall into public domain.
Still, point is there was a lot of crap, and citizen kane really does come off as more modern than the vast majority of them
Wyatt Sanders
smells like virgin in here
Ryan Russell
Based
Cringe
Adam Lee
yeah i felt that way when i first saw it. then i saw it again and i really liked it. maybe it's the hype, maybe it's whatever, but it's a really solid filim. Try it again in a couple years when one of your friends says "i've never seen it"
Colton Turner
Cringe
Matthew Bennett
The Wizard of Oz feels more modern than Kane, and that came out two years earlier
Brody Anderson
No one ever wants to admit it, but all these black and white movies suck cock.
Hudson Lee
Based
Cringe
Jace Evans
Cringe
Based
Caleb Sanchez
Adam fuck off
Lincoln Williams
Based
Cringe
Charles Green
At least they don't suck dog cock
Isaiah Flores
And it is often put on top 10 lists with citizen kane. kane just lacks musical numbers so has a bit more of a mature dramatic feel. Both fantastic tho
Ian Rivera
Citizen Kane does not exist. It was filmed in the 90s and made to be intentionally shit but appear kino so people could oust pseuds
Liam Harris
>does not exist
>It was filmed in the 90s
James Scott
burn
Grayson Brooks
no it does not wtf
James Flores
>using the same styles and direction we would use today
I'd say it even uses styles that would be great today even if they're not used. It's a great film all around, OP is just a fag as usual
Gavin Moore
vertigo is overrated as fuck. It popularized the worst tropes in cinema
Thomas Green
This. Citizen Kane is just a kike by the jew nigger the planet and eliminate the white race.
Nathan Roberts
TRIVAGO
Jaxon Howard
Citizen Kane is not innovative. It's really good, but it didn't do anything newother than the fact that a Hollywood studio gave the director complete creative control
Ethan Murphy
A bold claim since a saw it in the 80s.
Blake Morales
The movie was made to insult a major newspaper magnet.
Daniel Barnes
99.99% guarantee you wouldn’t think that if Wizard of Oz was b&w
Joshua Edwards
it doesn't exist as commonly known
glownegro
Dominic Richardson
It’s just picking over a dead man’s belongings and talking to his “friends” to try and make some sense of his life.
Wells was admittedly ignorant of film making and that’s why it’s a good watch.
All the $$$Hollywood$$$ (((bigwigs)))has it out for him, (((they))) hated him.
Even tried to frame him as a pedo.
Ayden Campbell
ceilings, "impossible" camera movements, and some interesting splicing. it was also incredibly well shot.
Joshua Johnson
>ceilings
Watch Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, or James Whale's Frankenstein
>"impossible" camera movements
I guess it may have been the first to have the camera go through something(not saying it was the first, just that I can't recall any film that did it before), but people often act like Kane was the first film to use the camera in an interesting way, which isn't true
>interesting splicing
I don't really know what you mean by this. If you're talking about the editing, it is interesting, but many films before had had interesting editing as well
>incredibly well shot
True, but it wasn't the first film to be incredibly well shot
Justin Thomas
The plot of 12 Angry Men makes suspension of disbelief impossible. The amount of evidence against the kid is
so staggering that a lawyer would have to argue that there was a conspiracy to frame him, like the OJ Simpson defense team. The "logic" the protagonist uses to dismiss the evidence is also deeply flawed.