Mindhunter

I can (and do) regulate my own viewing. But the experience of watching a series is improved when you can discuss it with people in between episodes. It’s hard to do that when everyone’s going at their own pace.

If only you had a device at your fingertips that could summon knowledge at the push of a button

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In 19 or so hours

1 episode per week ruins all tension and full enjoyment of any TV show. I don't know why you would complain unless you lack even the self-control not to binge it.

Nice, looking forward to it.

It's boring. It's basically one episode stretched over one season.

Charlie Manson actor looks great in it.

2 hours

ppl today blame others for literally anything. that said, this >the experience of watching a series is improved when you can discuss it with people in between episodes
is true

*finishing the loudest voice tonight*
*get mind hunter tomorrow*

based

Loudest voice is underrated. City on a hill is good too

I prefer a suspenseful slow burn without any jumpscares

this, but unironically.

kills 90% of the discussion and theories and if you don't want to get spoiled you can't really browse Yea Forums

>1 episode per week ruins all tension and full enjoyment of any TV show.
Zoomer pls. Reflection, discussion and anticipation is fundamental to the episodic experience.

So you prefer the thriller genre not the horror genre.

She's only credited for one episode for the second season, and the girlfriend not at all.

>discuss it with people in between episodes
Why would you do that? Just finish the whole thing and then discuss it.

You're being desperately lonely and autistic.

This.

>this guy never experienced LOST when it aired
>he doesn’t know the joy of discussing a show with likeminded people as the series progresses
>DUDE just wait till it ends then discuss it LMAO
>no counter argument
Thanks for confirming you’re a retard.

I ignore all Yea Forums threads related to the show I am going to watch if it is a staggered release, then I watch it all at once the day the last episode airs.

FUCKING FIGHT ME

Say something nice about Debbie

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>does not refute truth
Thanks for confirming you're desperately lonely and autistic.

>meme pic
Translation: I can’t counter anything you’ve said.

>this guy never experienced LOST when it aired
I watched a season or two and then dropped that garbage.

FUCKING WHORE, in real life THE BOOK WRITTEN BY THE GUY, he had a nice catholic wife, also INSULTING to be played by a fucking homosexual god damnit.

I’m not arguing, I’m calling you an NPC

The girl that played Debbie in s1 isn’t in a single episode this season.

>incapable of discussing one season
brainlet

HALLELUJAH PRAISE THE LORD

Most of us aren't fucking NEETs with zero friends that can watch 8-10 hours of television in one sitting. Also, you are guaranteed to forget most of what happens in the show if you watch it all at once. Weekly episodes allows you to examine the details of the show instead of the show as a whole.
This is why Shitflix is failing by the way. Instead of letting a show's buzz last for 2-3 months, it lasts a week and then is tossed aside. Is anyone on this board still discussing Stranger Things 3? That's probably Netflix biggest IP at the moment and nobody is talking about it because everyone finished it within a week.

Fucking autism

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>can't pay attention enough to absorb a show you watch a few hours every night

ADHD zoomer fuck off

>caring about spoilers
Any kino worth watching is unspoilable, there are infintely more interesting things about a show than the basic plot or some fan theories

>watch 8-10 hours of television in one sitting
Why would you do that?
>you are guaranteed to forget most of what happens in the show if you watch it all at once
What? That doesn't make any sense.
>Is anyone on this board still discussing Stranger Things 3?
It's garbage. What do you want to discuss about it?

Dumb zoomer retards in this thread don’t understand episodic formula.

Agreed lad. Every time there's a good series on Netflix and you want to discuss it with someone, the discussion bleeds to death because one of you has seen more episodes than the other. No more discussions and speculation about what happens next, the discussion is limited to 'yeah it's a good series'.
I think you're right, when a series is airing only one episode a week all the talk and speculation about it generates even more hype, drawing in more viewers. Netflix doesn't have that.

It's going to glorify BTK's kills, isn't it

You are guaranteed to
>Why would you do that?
The Netflix binge release format encourages people to finish a show immediately before anyone else as to avoid spoilers.
>What? That doesn't make any sense.
Disingenuous faggot
>It's garbage. What do you want to discuss about it?
I'm not a retarded tweenager so I don't watch the show. Regardless, it would still be discussed on this board today (Even if it was bad) if they released it on a weekly basis.

The need for immediate gratification will be the death of our society. Screencap this.

Humanity has suffered from the need for immediate gratification since the beginning of time. We'll be fine.

It's going to be available when it's available.

IT'S BEEN 2 FUCKING YEARS

>We'll be fine
what delusion. we haven't been so for a very long time.

Hope to see more Ed Kemper!

Egg salad anyone?

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same. hold the bread, maybe add some tuna.

One of the worst actors i have seen in years, heard that most of the negative reviews about Mindhunter came because of her bad acting.

I'm having trouble believing that.

>The girl that played Debbie in s1 isn’t in a single episode this season.

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>I'm having trouble believing that.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindhunter_(TV_series)

>avoid spoilers
Oh no, spoilers! Only idiots are afraid of spoilers.
>Disingenuous faggot
Sure thing. You will forget about something you've seen two days ago, but not about something you've seen a month ago. Totally makes sense.
> it would still be discussed on this board today (Even if it was bad)
How is that a good thing?

please PLEASE tell me we don't have to deal with anymore Debbie in this new season

Y
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YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

who is the muppet depicted at Tench's waist? why is there a random person in there besides Tench, Holden and their female coworker?

Damn a contrarian NEET who's posting during work hours, haven't seen one of those before
I'm not going to reply to your post again, but if you honestly can't understand the difference between discussing one hour of television once a week over the course of a few months and discussing 10 hours of television in a single discussion then you might be a legitimate asocial retard and I genuinely feel bad for you. Also, seeing as that you can't extrapolate what I said about Stranger Things to other, higher quality shows that are actually worthy of discussion analysis, it seems that you actually are a retard.
Please tell your handler that you have had enough internet time for the day.

Looks like a melanin being

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That is a very kino poster but who is the person depicted at center bottom?

uh oh

>That is a very kino poster but who is the person depicted at center bottom?
See

ummmm

>who's posting during work hours
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_zone educate yourself.

someone remind me does Tench have an adopted son who's showing signs of mental instability? I can hardly remember Manhunter at all after all it's been TWO YEARS since season one

Yes, but i think his adopted son has Autism.

huh.... I thought the show was hinting his adopted kid was showing signs of blossoming sociopathy

I guess the good thing about having a somewhat shit memory is rewatching kino usually feels fresh and new to me each time

>Tench reveals that he has an adopted six-year-old son named Brian who refuses to speak.
might not be the 'tism nor sociopathy but RAD instead

He's just autistic, but Bill doesn't understand that the lack of speech and eye contact doesn't mean he's intentionally distant or uncaring.

maybe it's reactive attachment disorder not autism since the boy is adopted? funny since a lot of serial killers had RAD which can easily hop over to sociopathy or something that resembles it.

though autists do also lack empathy, which is a fact no one seems to enjoy admitting.

no wonder BTK developed raging narcissism

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how do you go from that to pic related?

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I skipped her parts but i like she does pot and is kinda cool

>Tench and Nancy talk about Brian's behavior at school. At their home, Brian's babysitter discovers a crime scene photo showing Ada Jeffries dead with a wooden pole inserted in her anus. The babysitter is too afraid to continue working there.
What did Tench and his wife talk about in regard to their kid's behavior? Fug pls do I really have to rewatch the whole show over again?

>Karen Sprinker, 18, abducted at gunpoint from a parking lot outside a department store in May 1968. Brudos was dressed in women's clothes during this attack.
>Brudos would dress up in high heels and masturbate after committing a murder.

True but 1 episode a week sucks too. Too long of a break. Should be 1 a day or something

how did this show get made in today's world where they blatantly admit men getting off to women's clothing are retarded violent fetishists?

>Is it going to be available from midnight tonight?
YES

Next season will be BTFOing the black community that blame white people for everything I guarantee it

that sounds so spicy I can't wait

>Tench's son is autistic to some degree. But we've overlooked a few important facts:
>When Ford is at Tench's house for dinner, he gets right on the floor with Brian and plays with and talks TO him, something we don't see from Tench. He sits in the chair by his son, not with him, and doesn't interact with him at all.
>While talking after dinner, Holden says well, you talk to him, right? Bill completely ignores the question and says you want a drink? This tell us Bill doesn't know how to talk to his child.
>2. When Ford picks Tench up at his house and Nancy and Brian come out to say bye, Tench holds his arms out for a hug which Brian refuses to give. Now, Tench is a large imposing man who doesn't understand children well enough to go to a knee to make himself less threatening to a small child. Tench walks away frustrated and if you read between the lines, Tench blames Brian for not showing affection.
>3. After the Lamplight, when Tench's babysitter quits, Bill and Nancy fight about Brian. Nancy says Brian tries to get in his office and wears his ties and shoes to try to get closer to Bill. Tench says I've tried to play with him and he's not fun, again underscoring the fact that he doesn't know how to relate to his own child.
>4. Not sure if it was during dinner at Tench's or the fight between Bill and Nancy, but Tench basically says his own father ignored him and didn't interact with him. This allows the viewer to extrapolate the circle of neglect; because Bill's father didn't couldn't or wouldn't interact with him, Bill can't or won't interact with Brian because he doesn't know how since he never experienced it. He's made attempts, but stops them when he doesn't immediately get his desired result (the hug, "he's just not fun").

She's amazing. Kind of like a blonde Scully.

>I realized that Brian is probably not autistic, but traumatized (PTSD). Nancy said to Debbie when they were washing dishes that her and Bill can't find out anything from the first 13 months of Brian's life, no matter how hard they tried. I think something truly awful happened to him as a baby, which is why he was a ward of the state and adoptable, and he's in a self protective state because of the trauma. Think about it, if your own father diddled you, how quick would you run to hug an imposing man like Bill Tench, especially since he now fills the role of the person who traumatized you?

:(
Is this show going to end up with little kid Brian ending up being a criminal/serial killer himself?

>Selective mutism (SM) is an anxiety disorder in which a person who is normally capable of speech cannot speak in specific situations or to specific people. Selective mutism usually co-exists with shyness or social anxiety.[1] People with selective mutism stay silent even when the consequences of their silence include shame, social ostracism, or punishment.
:(((

does Tench's kid speak at all, even once, during season 1?

>Besides lack of speech, other common behaviors and characteristics displayed by selectively mute people, according to Dr. Elisa Shipon-Blum's findings, include:[12][13]
>Shyness, social anxiety, fear of social embarrassment, and/or social isolation and withdrawal
>Difficulty maintaining eye contact
>Blank expression and reluctance to smile or incessant smiling
>Difficulty expressing feelings, even to family members
>Tendency to worry more than most people of the same age
>Sensitivity to noise and crowds

>On the positive side, many people with this condition have:
>Above-average intelligence, perception, or inquisitiveness
>Creativity and a love for art or music
>Empathy and sensitivity to others' thoughts and feelings
>A strong sense of right and wrong

So was the teacher a pedophile or what

>Next season will be BTFOing the black community that blame white people for everything I guarantee it
you already know that's how it happens

no.

yeah probably but above all his attraction and fetish was specifically tickling.
>imagine have a sexuality that revolves around one very specific non-sexual thing
very pathetic desu

uh oh...

>in episode 6, when Holden visits Tench's house for dinner, he meets Brian. Upon meeting Brian, Holden sits very close to him, touches & plays with Brian's toys, and knocks over Brian's tower. But despite Holden being so intrusive, Brian doesn't appear to get anxious at all, nor does he get upset at any point. Also, when Holden eventually walks away, he put his hand on Brian's head and rubs it, but Brian doesn't even flinch or change behavior.
>Generally speaking, some amount of anxiety is demonstrated in autistics, but Brian doesn't seem to show any. Given how aggressive Holden was when meeting Brian, although Brian didn't even acknowledge Holden (or his father for that matter), I feel like, if Brian was meant to be portrayed as autistic, he would have exhibited at least some change in behavior to emphasize this fact.

>TENCH: They all have a crazy, angry mother.
>HOLDEN: Or an absent father.
>TENCH: Aren't all fathers absent in some way? I know my old man was never around.
>HOLDEN: Imagine how different Benjamin and Rose's lives might have been if their father never left.
>TENCH: Not sure it would've changed much.
>HOLDEN: Your father really didn't speak to you?
>TENCH: No.
>HOLDEN: But you speak with Brian?
>TENCH: You want one more?

>Nancy said to Debbie when they were washing dishes that her and Bill can't find out anything from the first 13 months of Brian's life, no matter how hard they tried.

>doesn't mind Holden but is standoffish to his adoptive father, who's a big guy (for you)

I think Brian got abused by large violent man in his infancy and Tench is too emotionally constipated to react appropriately

Is the GF in it?

is Bill sterile? why did he adopt?

>I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL, PLEASE MAKE ALL DECISIONS FOR ME

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i unironically seethed hard in the dark room scene, what a bitch

Did they ever address her being a slut in the dark room with another guy? All that happens is the main dude runs out when he sees her and its never brought up again

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was she flirting or actually cheating on Holden?
why didn't he leave her right then and there???

she better not be, her character arc with Holden really dragged down the show, her only good scene was with Tench's wife Nancy

I'm with you my man

Damn he was a pure Chad

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over under on Tench's kid being found with a dead animal this season?

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yeah then I think he got JUSTED really fast when he was still young then couldn't figure out why he was getting a different reception from other people... then the killings started...

>here's your future serial killer bro

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test

you pass

its been a while since i watched but i`m pretty sure she actually cheated on him, the dude had appeared already

get fucking laid autistic incel

why didn't Holden dump her? he just... kinda didn't react then stayed with her until she showed up later to dump him

From what I can remember he was just tired of her and people in general. He outright says that he's tired of getting in trouble for breaking a few rules that doesn't matter

Yeah that was weird, and Holden comes back like a little cück.
And now the bad actress breaks up with him, WTF?
Holden is a Beta.

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>This is your future serial killer bro in 15 years

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He should've just shaved his remaining hair, and grow a 3 day beard.
His facial features where still there, and he didn't look weak even in his old age.

Also, why did he care so much when he had wife and kids?
He wasn't a single Beta.

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if only there were places where you could discuss a show episode by episode...

>incel

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well he's a psychopath with a psychosexual disorder for starters. that generally ends up not ending well.

T R A N C E L S rise up!

Dumb shit

The anticipation of a new narrative chapter brings people together and helps form long-lasting communities. Look at Mad Men threads. It's like people coming back together to reminisce. Shows released in a single splurge cater to isolated individuals. Conversation isn't as strong. There's no anticipation. The joy of unspooling a mystery or letting your imagination run wild with others trying to guess the next turn of events can't occur. Imagine if The Boys was an episode-a-week show. It would have taken over Yea Forums. Anons would be coming together trying to figure out what the fuck's going to happen next. Instead we all just sit patiently waiting for a new season, to discuss briefly before it's forgotten the following week.

What was his trauma, he looked like a pure Chad in his school photo.

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shows like this are right up my street but i flip back and forth on holden, sometimes i really don't like that fucker. bill is cool though.
the guy who plays Ed Kemper is brilliant but that really goes without saying.

I don't know if he had any. Maybe it's possible that all that's required is being male with a shitty amygdala and high sex drive with porn consumption and off the wall fetishes. He's never claimed to have trauma or been abused but at the same time some of these men would certainly never claim abuse that occurred since they may feel it makes them weak.

Sometimes.... shitty people are just shitty for no reason.

I don't get why everyone hates Holden, he seems utterly neutral to me. I didn't know actor was gay until I went to his wiki page. Bill is a bro yet the scenes with his kid are dismaying and depressing.

>trailer for season two shows that the entire season will be nigs REEing that the KKK is killing their kids
>real killer ends up being a nig
>trailer also shows that there will be juicy Tench's kid drama
K I N O

BRAVO FINCHER

>he seems utterly neutral to me
he's self centred, really doesn't give a shit about what's going on around him or who he's affecting because what he wants comes first. it makes him interesting, you never know how far he's going to push it (as far as he can get away with no doubt) but it makes me really dislike him sometimes and i'm a person who has to have sympathy for the protag or i can't enjoy the story.

I'm not disagreeing but I don't recall him being self centered. His gf certainly was. I remember he's utterly willing to "speak their language" when it comes to the men he tries to nab. When/how does he steamroll over others to get what he wants? I honestly don't remember.

So Fincher doesn't just shame Trannies (Brutus), but he also shits on melaninians?

Holy mother of based!

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>"I have some things to deal with at home. It's personal."
What did he do?!

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he gets warned by his superiors and bill tells him to cool off and he basically tells them to go fuck themselves because what he's doing is important.
i don't get how people can hate his girlfriend but not hate holden as well, they're about as irritating as eachother.

S*cked his own d*ck in front of the class

Brudos.
>yfw just telling the truth is being hateful or shaming in 2019

Even if he wasn't, he should've stopped tickling as soon as the parents told him to stop, and he especially should've stopped once the fucking feds start reacting. What a retard

Who should play Gacey?

>Gayce
A trans black midget from Sierra Leone.

Isn't it weird that most serial killers are gay/bi and like women clothes?

Will Holden shag the Lesbo Milf?

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Because they’re all sexual degenerates

Oh. Well if he didn't do that we wouldn't have a show. Also, while he and his gf are similar he's attempting to catch/prevent psychopathic violent men. What is she doing? Fucking around with other men? Being a floozy?
Now that you've refreshed my memory my take on Holden is that I recall feeling frustrated at Holden's boss(es) that were trying to prevent a guy from trying to catch bad guys. I wasn't irritated at the character Holden, if anything he was being held back.
I think I can see where you're coming from. But damn, the 60s and 70s had so much violence what he's trying to do is important. The few people that actually have drive seem to get put out to pasture too often.

>Isn't it weird that most serial killers are gay/bi and like women clothes?
All homos are potential serial killers and pedophiles. Nobody should befriend them.

its already out in my country, the first 5 minutes have holden going on a 30 second rant against white people

I hate Debbie because she's boring and shitty and she drags the story to a grinding halt every time she's on screen. Naturally, this is true for Holden as well since every scene she's in, he's in too. But when he's not, Holden is working and we get to see serial killer kino, which is what I want to see. Debbie is a black hole

what did holden said to the black people that got them so mad?

When women wear pants, it's just clothing. When men wear dresses or heels it's because they're sexually violent and fucked in the head. That's why this double standard exists.

Transsexualism and the societal endorsement of it today is outright encouraging and sanitizing the paraphilias of both autogynephilia and exhibitionism.
Russell Williams, BTK, Jerry Brudos, countless other serial killers cross dressed and stole women's clothing. Even non violent men are seemingly more attracted to things that have been coded as female than actual female attributes.
>getting aroused by a shaved trap in girly clothing moreso than just straight up cunt

fuck niggers and fuck jannies

user...

No midnight release.

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no

Sorry :(

>Also, while he and his gf are similar he's attempting to catch/prevent psychopathic violent men. What is she doing?
yeah. but the waters muddy on why he does that, his morality seems to change depending on his interests.
>my take on Holden is that I recall feeling frustrated at Holden's boss(es) that were trying to prevent a guy from trying to catch bad guys. I wasn't irritated at the character Holden, if anything he was being held back.
that's the benefit of hindsight, we know his techniques become a staple of finding and catching dangerous people, his colleagues don't know that. they see this guy coming in and doing whatever the fuck he wants and not respecting the existing protocol that allows him the power to enforce these new ideas. it makes him untrustworthy.

>But when he's not, Holden is working and we get to see serial killer kino
yeah her role on the show is to see holden away from his job which slows everything down but if you're interested in his character (which i'm not particularly, i get it, he's morally grey and pretty full of himself) serves a purpose but i'm with you, i want to see him out in the field with bill.

>"Hey so I think the killer will be black, usually serial killers kill within their own racial group and this would explain why the killer can so easily walk around in these communities-"
>"Ey white boy shut up! Fuck you honky!"

To be fair to the blackies, none of them would’ve known what a serial killer is.

LAME

Nothing changes until someone innovates. Even if he was deviating from protocol, before his attempts what were people doing? Were they trying anything different? Or just trying to same shit for two decades while violent men did whatever they wanted for the entirety of the 70s?

I don't give a fuck what someone's morality is, what's important is results and the end result (only concern is collateral damage, of which there wasn't any besides whatever his bosses decided on because they wanted to throw a tantrum every time he caught another one). If he's just jacking off his ego but gets results it doesn't matter.

Jesus fucking christ what a faggot you are

I guess so. I don't understand why no one grasped what serial killers were back then. Surely they've always existed? Unless the specific timing of everything made them a short lived phenomenon?
>male Boomers + leaded gasoline + lead paint + completed national highway road system + no DNA sequencing + fathers scarred by WWII who may have been abusive + women being more in public and independent due to feminism = crimewave of 60s/70s/80s

Has the lead actor taken acting lessons yet or not?

He's fine when he's not in his awful girlfriend scenes and I believe we are finally free from the Debbie Menace this season

>what's important is results and the end result
he used his position to destroy that school principle's career and reputation when he was told not to get involved. whatever you think about it if he did the right thing or not those were the results of his actions and when that man's wife came by to get the measure of this he basically didn't give about it fuck either way.
collateral damage is relative, results are relative, he's making big, life altering moves and not listenening to anybody around him when they try and give him realty check. he fucking went and talked to ed kemper in the hospital at the end of last season and admitted he didn't know why he was there.
he's a potentially very dangerous person and the FBI are 100% in the right to keep an eye on him and not let him do whatever the fuck he wants, whenever he wants.

what's the point of BTK? to show they never caught the guy until computer technology finally got to a certain point? and BTK doesn't fit the typical pattern?

also why is Holden so hype for Manson who wasn't a serial killer? cult killers are so boring and annoying
>huurrrr I'm craazzzyyy and on druggssss
stupid

>why is a guy who investigates what drives people to commit "senseless" murders interested in a guy who brainwashed people and made them commit "senseless" murders
Truly a mystery, hope they create a spin-off series dealing with it

Considering there's still serial killers around, it wasn't a short lived phenomenon.

He didn't look thrilled about the wife's situation to me, he looked glum. I don't know what she was expecting remaining married to a serial child tickler. Denial or stupidity I guess?

All of this is in hindsight but he got real results with this shit. Do I compare results to the character or the real guy? The real guy didn't just show up to hang out with Kemper for no reason, he was interviewing him when his thingie to notify the guards stopped working and Kemper told him he could twist his head off before anyone noticed... then didn't touch him. This character based on the real guy is obviously more dramatic and has lots of shit going on in his life. But even so, Holden and the real guy both are going to end up with drastic, positive results from their actions.

So why didn't anyone from the past understand what they were? It's irritating, it's like they cannot fathom a stranger would want to hurt someone. Looking back at interviews from the 70s people are just baffled at serial rapists/killers, it's like their brains literally cannot comprehend it or something.

Holden's hard on for specifically Manson is lame, most SKs aren't cult types.

>Do I compare results to the character or the real guy?
that's the thing i'm really just talking about the show, not real life. obviously his ideas were incredible and changed a lot of things which is why there is a tv show based around this era of criminology in the first place.
the character irritates me that's all. i have no idea what the real man he was based off was like.

>The real guy didn't just show up to hang out with Kemper for no reason, he was interviewing him when his thingie to notify the guards stopped working and Kemper told him he could twist his head off before anyone noticed... then didn't touch him.
God that's fucking creepy.

The main guy in this show is too cuntish. He strikes me as that fucking kid that tattled on you for sneaking a snack to your desk instead of eating it at recess like a fucking slave.

Serial killers were just rarely caught back then, I think. The only one I can think of from the top of my head is Albert Fish.
The idea that someone would kill another person for any other reason than money, revenge or passion/spurned love was just completely foreign. And stuff like sexual fetishes, sadism or other deviancy were taboo, let alone someone who gets off on killing people.

It will be funny when the reality of the Atlanta killer is revealed to not be a honky but all the REEING at white people leading up to that will be annoying af. Manson is annoying too. Son of Sam is a dumb wannabe-crazy jew. And yet this season looks great and I think it will be kino.
>tfw more interested in the darkness blooming in Tench's son potentially than the main plotlines

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Yeah Kemper is a big creepy guy (for you).

Whatever the real guy is like, to me Holden comes off as driven, focused, reserved, one of the only ones actually interested in doing their jobs and changing the results gotten, all qualities that appeal to me on a personal level.
I hate bureaucracy and red tape, especially when it's obvious someone knows what they're doing, even if it's just instinctual but they're being held up by it. Plus, from a pure entertainment viewpoint, the standard government red tape tantrum throwing fed boss is so tired and so annoying, it slows down the story.

But Holden breaks the rules, not enforces them.

Boomers inherited a super high trust white society and what did they do with it? lmao

I agree he has admirable qualities and he is very smart. It's why i go back and forth on him rather than outright hating the guy. Bonus points to the show for not painting him as a hero who does no wrong, i'm glad the other characters give him shit for some of the things he does i probably wouldn't keep watching the show otherwise.

>haha dude cereal killers

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What do you think about Tench? Or Tench's relationship with his son?

tench is great, he's my favourite. the father/son relationship is sad and credit to the actor he portrays the frustration spot on.

Tench is more fun than Holden but his relationship with Brian is so just so depressing even though they barely show it. Even robot Holden got down on the floor and played with the kid. C'mon Tench!

she's not a bitch but ya i love her too

True, they should release two episodes every week so we can properly absorb and discuss the content

Go find an A24 thread sweetie

They really need to interview this guy. What a fucking psycho. They’ll never release the audio but can read the transcripts

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yeah but you know tench tried and gave up. poor kid.

I honestly don’t know why they don’t do this. Every time Netflix release a season of a show in bulk, the discussion for it fizzles out in a week or two. If they released 2 episodes a week of a 10 part season, they could dominate online discussion for over a month.

Hmmm serial killers are sooo mysterious and sexy? I wonder that goes through their minds? I just cannot figure it out....
>internal dialogue: "I hate women. I HATE women. I HATE them! Fuck I hate them and I'm so obsessed with them! All I do is think about killing and fucking women (in that order). God I hate women. I hate them so much. I feel horny thinking about pantyhouse and makeup. I really, REALLY hate women. Wish they'd all die. They make me horny though. I hate women.... for making me horny. Or do I feel horny because I hate them? Why am I so attracted to things that society had deemed as feminine? They're social constructs and they wouldn't even exist on a deserted island and yet... How would they even work anyway? Do I even have a sexuality outside of clothing and shoes that have been coded for women? They're artificial constructs yet I'm almost more attracted to those things than an actual women/pussy/tits? Huh... why do I want to wear women's clothing and high heels so bad anyway? Why did having an abusive mommy make like this? Or did that even make like this? Argh! God I HATE WOMEN! I hate women so much!"

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>giving up on your kid, especially while he's under the age of 10 and not raping people (yet)
Bill! Noooo!

Some of them seem to like women too much.

>so consumed with his work in stopping serial killers that he neglects to stop the one growing up in his own home
dammit bill what have you done

are they going to address the controversy of fagmount this season

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i actually love this, just got done with st1,2,3, moneyheist 1,2,3 and mindhunters 1 all in a month

That would be so kino I wouldn't be able to handle it, my favorite kind of stories are the ones where you watch monsters get created/born.
>Tears stream down Tench's face, filled with regrets, wishing he had paid more attention, had been more patient. Now he's confronted with the sight of his adopted son standing in front of him, blood smeared across his face and hips. "Dad?"

Like as in want to utterly possess them a la Body Snatchers maybe.
which is unironically what trannies are doing

someone translate this sentence please

Tench says that he needs to lock the cabinet that he has his work in, then his whole office.Tench gets mad that Brian is trying/able to get into the office at all. Nancy/Wife says it's because Brian wants to be close to Tench and that he should be able to keep that separate from his home life. Tench gets angry and takes Nancy into office and describes/shows the crimes he has been working on, implying that doing this kind of stuff means that you can never really check it at the door.
They both break down, and Tench apologizes, but notices the knots on Ada Jeffries arms are nautical even though the town they are in is land-locked.

So...they don't really talk about Brian's behavior. They talk about Bill's. Though the scene prior has them talking about taking him into some kind of therapist. Nancy wants a music therapist because she read about it being a good thing for non-communication. Bill doesn't trust damn, dirty hippies who over charge, so he suggests someone closer that he found weeks/months earlier. Either way, they both are concerned enough to have looked in to ways of helping and both care about Brian, even if they aren't able to--irony--communicate about it.

user you the real mvp, thanks. I notice there's a consistent breakdown of communication in entire Tench family which is probably contributing to Brian's issues

>tfw no dramatic babby Brian killer subplot
why even continue

Most people want to binge watch shows now. Plus if the show is a complete bust then they don't have to deal with the cringe of still releasing episodes weekly.

It’s fine if the shows have been out for a while. When a show is fresh I want to discuss it, which is made difficult by dumping them all at once.

Those are the kind of people who pursue careers in the FBI

>he got real results with this shit
Didn't the only get one guy all season, and they did that by interrogating him like literally any suspect?

no he's supposed to be autistic and off

If she’s in it, I’m skipping over scenes. I’ve been doing it in a bunch of Netflix shows. They take an interesting (sometimes masculine) show and turn it into a show my mother watches; that ginger bitch in daredevil made it unbearable at times.

kemper gave him a reality check alright

Some bender on Yea Forums explained that the lead character mounted his girlfriend like a faggot. The actor playing him is gay IRL.
Someone post the screencap

are the writers of the show going to talk about how Holden mounted debbie like a homosexual last season

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This. I would have told his wife he had about 100 times where he could have changed his behavior and fixed everything in an instant. He, like a lot of sexual perverts, acted as though people shitting on his compulsion was equivalent to beliefs which attack immutable characteristics like racism or misogyny.

No problem.

They're for sure going to have Brian kill or torture an animal this season.
Give Tench some personal stakes for their research.

If you have the free time to log onto Yea Forums to discuss what you've already watched of season 2, use that time to finishing watching season 2 instead. Problem solved.

she better not be in it, I DON'T CARE ABOUT HOLDEN'S ROBOTIC PERSONAL LIFE

what if...brian is the one who killed the laundry room cat?

that guy was a real jerk

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>BLM tax
kek

Please tell me someone has the screencap. I watched the first 20 minutes of Episode 1, and didn't return to the show until two weeks ago.

here's the end of an interview with this fucker

It's been a while, but I recall he got at least two.

not sure, think there was at least two Holden nabbed

yea im 32 and would rather just binge it, or at best watch one episode per day. one episode a week can blow me. 2 days after the episode airs there is nothing left to really discuss anyway. so at best 1 episode every 2/3 days is probably the best option.

god pls
Love, love stories of someone watching as a new monster emerges and they're torn up with love and concern
>Don't want to play blocks with me Daddy? Take this cat! *beats cat to death*
K I N O

forgot pic FUCK

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um sweatie, his "hands-on" methods produced the best test scores in the state

damn it's all due to tickling kids, not the quality of the teachers or the wealth of the parents? that's amazing

2nd time playing the role it seems

imagine actually thinking this. Like some other user said here, it kills the deliberate pace of the show and ruins all possible artistic merit of having the whole picture available. That's probably why I love Lost as a whole and I'm not butthurt about its finale, because I didn't watch it when it aired so I was able to binge watch it all.

Technically the Mindhunter scenes were filmed first

One of them was already a suspect and the other became a suspect through basic police work. Holden's problem is that he looks at these men who were already being investigated, sees how they fit the profiles they are constructing, and then decides that it was their profile that did all the heavy lifting. In reality, it was standard police work. Tench says as much himself.

This doesn't mean that profiling has no value or that it can't theoretically crack a case, but Holden is putting the cart before the horse. It's why shit like involving himself in the principal situation is so dangerous. He's walking right up to the line of accusing someone when his model is still in its infancy.

bookclub faggots are the worst.

>imagine actually thinking this.
user this was just reality before everything was done on the internet.
i'm 50/50 on it. i miss watching an episode and waiting with everyone else for the next one, the anticipation. but on the other hand it's great to chose your own pace. i'm too burned out on tv shows going to shit to really enjoy the anticipation of a new episode anymore.

>tfw can binge and then shitpost about Mindhunter S2 all weekend-long
Things are looking up lads

wasn't there 3 actually?
>formerly abused by mother dog and women kilelr
>retarded hillbilly clan killing
>tree trimmer child molester killer
the tree trimmer one was the one where profiling was used most extensively.

hell yeah man

NO, BRIAN, NO

It literally was them though, and it potentially stopped them from committing more crimes by getting confessions.

who would win?

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She’s not listed as being in any episodes of s2.

YES BRIAN YES

thank fuck we are free from the DEBBIE MENACE

Free from that whore, YES.

>Brian learns to finally talk
>"Daddy will you still love me even if I hurt something?"

>capturing Wayne Williams
this gonna be fucking awesome

>didn’t experience LOST as it aired
>thinks he can talk about LOST

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>all white main cast
how did they get away with this

it was a different time

good, she was the worst part of S1 with the girlfriend a close second tied with Shepard

>perfectly qualified black candidate
>no he's black
absolutely based

No one tells the Finch what to do.

>On the subject of Bill’s home life, which will play a much larger role in the new season, McCallany treads carefully to avoid spoilers. Fans have speculated that the Tenches’ adopted son Brian — who is largely non-verbal and displays some worrying tendencies — could be a serial killer in the making, modeling some of the "red flag" behaviors that Bill and his colleagues have identified in their research. "There is a major season two storyline involving Brian," he confirms. "Without giving too much away, my son witnesses a crime, and the consequences of that for the family eventually put a tremendous strain on my marriage."
OH SHIII-

Blue oni, purple oni, red oni?

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They reconciled after he saw her at the laundromat, then he deduced she wanted to break up in the last episode. Hopefully, she's gone for good. I hope they get rid of the tattletale weasel in their group, too.

did Holden knock over the block tower on purpose?

>Milf
>isn't a mother
>frogposter
makes sense

she's a cat mom

midnight PST = 8am bongistan

every netflix show comes out at 3am EST 12am PST

i don't care about europoor times. i'll be up at 3am with my fellow Yea Forums bros watching season 2 mindhunter kino.

why no ted bundy this season? i mean fuck they're going to be in atlanta and he's just down in florida a little ways. i don't care if they never interviewed him in real life. maybe they're saving him for season 3.

Torrent when?

I'm interested in this show. I want to give it a shot but I am completely fucked off by gay shit and SJW messages being inserted everywhere. Does this show gay?

fuck off /pol/tard

main actor is gay irl but acts normal in show. side female character is a lesbian but it's not the focus. upcoming season will focus on black child murders committed by black man. calls out men with fetishes.
what say you, too much for you?

There's a kiss between two women and some discussion over hiding their sexuality. Takes up roughly 5 minutes of the season.

Tolerable levels of faggotry. I'll watch.

My cup runeth over with gay shit. Super tired of it in everything. I don't hate gays but I am fed up with being subjected to the media brain wash quota. Same thing if every fucking show I watched had someone going on about how much they love fish-n-chips. After 100 shows in a row with overt fish-n-chips references, I'd be fed up .... and labeled some fish-n-chips hater.

btw, thank you for the info. Looking forward to watching this.

>Serial killing. Not even once.

Theres no fucking way that's how this season is going to go down but we can hope

Read the thread moron

just you wait KEK

JUST

someone crown Rader please

> he basically didn't give about it fuck either way.
He clearly did and was very bothered about it and doubted him self and hoped he made the right choice.

Its based on the book mindhunter and BTK takes a huge part of that book, most of it.

shit I'm going down the same JUST path, should I take up serial killing?

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every time
no show escapes
not any more
gay is ultra important

>He clearly did and was very bothered about it
he was more bothered about getting his girlfriend back inside the apartment. he was sure he made the right choice until the reality of the lives he had affected confronted him. he's a character who thinks because he's smarter than a lot of people that he knows more than them too.

A lot of predators are arrogant pricks that see no wrong

looking forward to this

Midnight Pacific time

he was bros with Bonin

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test

>>this guy never experienced LOST when it aired
>implying the LOST experience wouldn't have improved if the discussions were based on seasons and not episodes
>implying that LOST wouldn't be released season-by-season instead of all at once
either way you're a retard

this is the correct way and episode-fags are borderline subhuman

>entire show's premise rolled into one meme

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kill yourselves

>The anticipation of a new narrative chapter
>implying the narrative must always be split up nicely into hour-long (or less) episodes
i fucking hate you and i hope you burn in hell

>user this was just reality before everything was done on the internet.
>appeal to tradition
ah yes, let's never innovate or advance art in any way
you know what? fuck feature-length movies, the 5-minute silent films in sepia-noire is just reality before everything was done on the internet

kek

ask me anything

>>implying the LOST experience wouldn't have improved if the discussions were based on seasons and not episodes
One of the stupidest posts I’ve ever seen on this board. Congrats m8

No shit, it was them. The point is that regular police work is what got the confessions, not profiling.

yeah that's exactly what i said isn't it, you fucking idiot.

Profiling is another piece of evidence.

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holy shit fagmount is real, where her hips are versus his

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Not relevant to those cases. Again, Tench literally says this.

now in picture format

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So she's out? I was considering watching this only because I liked her in Fringe, but if she's being kicked out then I'll skip it.

>Vaginas are icky!

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>Not relevant to those cases.
Debatable. Tench is old school so of course he believes that. This is pretty much the main theme of the show.

>the actor who plays Holden is gay

that explains so much about the vibe I was getting off of him

guess I'm retarded because I didn't get any gay vibes from Holden, instead all I picked up on was his consuming work drive bordering into 'tism and his emotional constipation, just seems overly reserved and stuck in his head to me

is this show good, seems to me that it has that generic pretendious netflix vibe

pretendious?

The main theme of season 1 is how Holden thinks he's too cool for school and has everything figured out when that's clearly not the case. Everything he thinks is vindicating him is actually just regular police work, and his profiling system is untested and unreliable, at best.

This is demonstrated repeatedly throughout the season. All of his peers talk about him moving too fast, or the unreliability of his data. Tench talks about how many of their solved cases were really just down to good old fashioned investigative police work. Holden only realizes how little he knows at the end when he's threatened by Kemper.

The show beats you over the head with this so much I feel like you'd have to be retarded not to pick up on this.

i'm sorry it's a typo, meant pretentious. hope it didn't cause any inconvinience for you

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He has an IQ of 138 and is one of the most disturbing individuals I've heard of

The Master vibes

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You missed the point. It's okay.

Holden is unlikable. That's part of the character arc - he actually finds a woman who likes him, even though he has no ability to read her body language or what she says. He's brilliant at observing and intuiting psychopaths, but can't navigate a simple relationship with a girlfriend. I feel like they tried too hard with him, they tried to explore a complex character in a bizarre job, but didn't do a good job. The defining moment when I realized I disliked Holden's character is when he accuses Bill of being jealous of not being mentioned in the story in the newspaper...Bill standing up and walking out was all that needed to be said.
The whole Debby arc was a construct to explain character growth in Holden that never happened. And maybe that's the point they were trying to make, the last series has the same sequence of pulling up at the office, getting out in his NPC suit, and walking like a robot into the building. And, I think they're trying to explore how each of them deals with a job that brings them face to face with actual monsters and the aftermath of their violence. Bill drinks. The lesbian stuffs it all down and retreats to academia. But we have to watch Holden confront his attraction to psychopaths and his own confused, naive sexuality and world view.
I mean, pick a lane, guys. Is the show about the serial killers, or a try hard, empty inside NPC type investigator who's nothing like the guy it's based on? (They did a better job on portraying Douglas in Silence Of The Lambs)
And, if you want a laugh, go look up what Dr. Ann Burgess really looked like. If Holden had a crush on her...yeah, major mommy issues.

Evn more important, a psychopath like Kemper has made an FBI investigator his medical proxy, and calls him his friend. If his supervisor got wind of that, he should forbid any further contact, and have other agents continue interviewing him - that relationship is now muddied and clearly concerning. And Holden sat down and asked what the fuck he's doing, and if he doesn't know, yank his ass off the job until he does.

But always keep in mind, this is fiction. This is BASED on Douglas, not autobiography. Like the interview with Speck - he killed the bird in a different setting, in front of guards, and he made that last comment about "It just wasn't their night" in another interview at another time. They're playing fast and loose with the real story, to tell a fictional one.

Boy, what would I give for a modern Manhunter

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YES. And, Holden is trying to go beyond the scope of what the FBI mission is - investigation. They're not cops. They get called in when the cops can't figure a case out, and train cops what they learn. That's why Holden and Bill were traveling all over the country, they trained cops. He was brought into the school to show kids his badge. But he overstepped and tried to start an investigation on his own, not hand it to the local cops to handle. It ain't his job. Wether the principle was a pedo or not, it wasn't Holden's job to build a case to prosecute, or even investigate. That's the conflict - moving into new areas of research by the FBI, but not overstepping their bounds into areas that aren't their jurisdiction. They not cops. They're investigators. They might carry guns, but they're not Federal law enforcement, that's Federal Marshalls.