Jesus christ this show has so much soul. Slow paced scifi is the fucking best...

I finished TOS and I just can't seem to get into TNG. I'll power through because I'm told it gets better after season one, but I miss the TOS characters.

>weebshit in god tier

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It's bait

It's not easy..
>Say Jim, may I interest you in a brandy?
to
>Tea, Earl Grey -- hot.

>LOGH and fucking TNG in god tier
>while TOS and Farscape are only in very high tier

lad I seriously hope you are just b8ing for (you)s

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LoGH is wehraboo, not weeaboo. Deutschland, Deutschland über alles, über alles in der Welt.

Unfortunately Star Trek peaked with seasons 1 and 2 of TOS, so theres really nowhere to go but down

this should help you OP

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>STD
It's DISCO

Not here, it isn't.

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This. The closest non-star trek thing I got to the feel of TOS was Master and Commander. Captain James T Kirk and Captain Jack Aubrey match up pretty well, and Pullings is kind of a mix between Bones and Spock.

The level of quality throughout the first season is fantastic. The second quality also has some of the best episodes but there are shittier ones as well. The third? Well, one or two good episodes, the rest are maximum camp.

TOS has the highest highs and the lowest lows of Trek. It is simultaneously the best Star Trek show and the worst Star Trek show.

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Hollywood stopped making shows for smart people. They only want the fake geek girl demographic.

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fuck off cbs

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>lowest lows
Nah bro. DS9 definitely took that honor with the first 2 seasons, well, until STD came along anyway.

I'd argue that Enterprise comes closest to taking that crown but I suppose it's a matter of taste ultimately. Mine being infinitely superior to yours, of course.

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Get some perspective. There's nothing in DS9 seasons 1 & 2 that gets as bad as "Crusher fucks a ghost" and "Paris fucks a captain".

Or Kirk vs. space hippies, or Spock's Brain, or that two-parter on Vulcan on Enterprise where the head of the Science Council is emoting like a Captain Proton villain.

theres no universe where enterprise is worse than std. im sorry

eh, "if wishers were horses" and the storyteller come pretty close. Or any of the 3 episodes where someone is wrongfully accused of murder out of the like 19 episodes of the season
TNG had plenty of garbage too though. TOS didn't have a complete shit character like wesely crusher or jake sisko to deal with

"If Wishes Were Horses" is the 16th episode of the first season of the American syndicated science fiction television series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. The title is derived from the proverb "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride".

In this episode, people's personal thoughts and fantasies begin to manifest right before their eyes. The plot of the script evolved from its original draft when Michael Piller - co-creator of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - wanted to differentiate the episode from a Star Trek: The Next Generation installment where a holosuite character comes to life, as such 'imagination' became the central theme of the episode.[1] Another modification to the original script came from Colm Meaney's objection to the use of a Leprechaun due to, in his view, the negative connotations and stereotyping of Irish people. This influenced Piller to use the folk character Rumpelstiltskin instead, which during the re-write became the starting point of the new 'imagination' based story line for the episode.[2]

Babel
Dax
Move Along Home
Vortex
Battle Lines
If Wishes Were Horses
Dramatis Personae
Melora
Second Sight
Sanctuary
Rivals
Paradise
Playing God
Crossover

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Seething. DS9’s first two seasons were comfy.

>theres no universe where enterprise is worse than std. im sorry
Oh, god no. I hate Enterprise, have no interest in ever rewatching it and I watched it live on tv when it came out. But it doesn't even approach the smolder dumpsterfire that is STD.

I meant that I think that the entirety of Enterprise is worse than S1-S2 of DS9, or virtually anything else, as a whole. I just hated it from the start. The writing, the whole prequel idea, the acting, the characters, the fucking forced 9/11 storylines, the desperate attempts to sex up the show as its ratings fell.

Abysmal show but not as bad as STD, no.

There are like 20 ds9 episodes that are easily worse than spocks brain. Literally any episode featuring jake sisko for instance. Muse is easily worse than any single episode of any star trek show outside of std

>Crossover
Most people generally like this episode. Are you just picking names at random?

The only one that was bad was Dax

DS9 MU episodes are all dogshit

Far from the only bad one

The TOS show crew needs to be switched around with the movie crew.

>DS9 definitely took that honor with the first 2 seasons

Those seasons weren't good, but they weren't that bad either. Anything with Wesley is much, much worse.

And STD doesn't count because it is not real Star Trek. Not creatively or legally. Midnight's Edge warned us, but we didn't listen. Why didn't we listen.

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ah well you are completely right there. Not to say there weren't a couple very good episodes of ent, for instance I thought It actually had probably the strongest opening episode since TOS
>not exactly an incredible feat considering TNG, DS9, and Voy all have notoriously shitty opening 2 parters
But im with you that that DS9 on its worst day still surpasses ENT on its best . And that neither will ever be as trash as std

Yeah, Jake was the focal point of The Visitor which is one of the best Trek episodes of all time, so that's a nah from me, dawg.

Wrong. The movies is where they were fully fleshed out and flourished.

>putting jake sisko anywhere near the words "god tier"
absolutely yikes

would be a good list if you swapped ds9 crew with tos show crew tho

>DS9 MU episodes are all dogshit
Crossover: Great
Through the Looking Glass: Good
Shattered Mirror: Okay
Resurrection: Pure Shit
The Emperor's New Cloak: Merely Bad

Don't just mindlessly repeat memes that you don't understand.

>TNG higher than TOS
Pleb

And THAT is the power of math!

>Midnight's Edge warned us, but we didn't listen.
Midnight's Edge is an attention-whoring moron who makes up complete bullshit. Only gullible dumbasses listen to them.

Remember when STD's pilot was going to be about Mark Lenard being the center of the multiverse?

The movies is where they make a mess out of Kirk’s character and forget about Bones until VI. Everyone else gets barely fleshed out.

>the visitor
>good
I have never understood this meme
Its fucking boring, predictable, and sappy

No, they are all shit.

it's seriously shit. Fuck you, retard.

>Its fucking boring, predictable, and sappy
So it's Star Trek. Now get out.

>forget about Bones until VI
You realized the Search for Spock focused more on Boones than even Spock right?

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I don't agree with your but I'll say that early DS9 is absolutely worse than early TNG which gets memed on much more often.
But I have to agree with Enterprise is so bad I quit watching Star Trek after literally growing up with it for over 15 years (tos movies bro).

Why?

>crossover: great

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I'm not entirely sure why someone who entirely lacks human empathy would enjoy Star Trek. Maybe you really like the lasers and technobabble? Bright flashing colors?

fixed

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What's wrong with it?

>forget about Bones until VI

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Kys, zoomer fuck

>its another DS9 fanboy autists ruin the thread by being unable to take any criticism episode

Why are Enterprise fanboys so insufferable?

SEASON 1 AND 2 OFFICIAL POWER RANKINGS

TOS > ENT > TNG > DS9 > VOY > STD

you're a fucking moron who enjoys watching flabby men in spandex and shit special effects. hahahaha god this show was such a turd.

I'm not a fanboy, it's just the best Trek after TOS

Check out The Prisoner sometime

You forgot your trip

>it's another autistic ent fag pretends DS9 isn't universally loved by fans and lauded by critics as top-tier television
Yeah, we're just fanboy autists for liking something that everyone but you agree is good.

>you're a fucking moron who enjoys watching flabby men in spandex and shit special effects. hahahaha god this show was such a turd.

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I dropped Star Trek in 2003, after watching the abysmal disasters of Enterprise seasons 1 and 2, and Nemesis.

15 years later, I finally finished Enterprise, and I realized that I was right to drop it. 3 and 4 were a waste of time. Fuck Enterprise.

Pleb filtered

Just started episode 1. Why does #2's door have a doorknob when it's an automatic door? Boy, I really hope someone got fired for this blunder.

DS9 was objectively terrible, sorry

>expects us to believe he sat through tng/ds9/voy s1/2 but it was ent that was the last straw

well one, the whole premise of human persecution due to the last crossover was retarded, kiras mirror was cringe tier and comic book tier, and sisko being won over with a speech after rejecting the same information like 10 minutes earlier was an embarrassing ending
But smiley and mirrorbashirs future fag shenanigans in future episodes almost make it worth it. Still a bad episode though, like most mirror universe ones in general

So objectively terrible that, again, it is universally lauded as top-tier television by both critics and Trek fans.

Based Unwilling to Back Down Retard

reddit is unironically way better than this shit site. The only reason Yea Forums even still exists is because you deluded losers need a place to congregate far away from intelligent people due to your crippling inferiority complex.

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>putting TAS, TNG, DS9 and VOY in Terrible Tier
>"I'm such a Star Trek fan XD! Star Trek forever lol!"

They really like to rub salt into the wound. There's a later episode where Number Six goes to leave his house and the door doesn't open, and he just sort of stares impatiently until one of the surveillance people opens it for him.

I don't understand how anyone can defend voyager. It's so average and boring.

It focuses on Bones not acting like Bones due to Spock’s ghost. His role in that movie is about getting mentally cucked by a dead Vulcan. In most of the films, Bones gets one or two scenes where he shines, and for the rest of the film he just stands and grumbles to Kirk aka . VI was the closest the films ever got to balancing out the trio. V was also pretty good in that regard I guess.
Meanwhile, the TOS series had plenty of episodes where the trio had a healthy balance of focus and screentime.

>sisko being won over with a speech after rejecting the same information like 10 minutes earlier was an embarrassing ending
That's quintessential Star Trek though. Speeches always work. In fact, that's the ending of Mirror Mirror. Kirk wins by giving a speech to Mirror Spock about shit he already knew. It's poetry, it rhymes.

So objectively terrible that it lost 3/4th of trek's viewership and is the biggest ratings decline in trek history

>reddit is unironically way better than this shit site. The only reason Yea Forums even still exists is because you deluded losers need a place to congregate far away from intelligent people due to your crippling inferiority complex.

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LOGH is a glorified telenovel

Oh, and it's not an automatic door. It's just being remotely operated by the watchers and controllers of the Village.

But I do like DS9
I just am not a brainwashed faggot who thinks it is a flawless masterpiece. It has some of the worst episodes of star trek actually, mostly in the first and last season. But still a great show overall, probably my second favorite trek
>universally loved by fans
Its absolutely behind TOS and TNG in that regard. Thats not even debatable

Kill yourself, VF. Everyone hates you.

stay butthurt, incel

ironically.... UFO is the best tv scifi everrr

And that's a good thing, you dumb pseud.

People like to shit on TOS but holy shit TNG has a lot more embarrassingly bad episodes

This is objective and correct

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9/11 nevar 4get.

TOS episode was the worst episode that Trek has ever done, yes worse than TNG's clip show, because it's literally not a Trek episode.

I never said it was a flawless masterpiece and honestly, I'd say your view is entirely well-reasoned and fair.

I still think DS9's lows aren't nearly as bad as other shows but there are certainly lows.

The secretary character was terrible. What were they thinking?

This poster worships Nazis.

uh no actually, spock thinks kirk is full of shit until he mind melds with bones. The speech he gives at the end doesn't even relate to their situation, hes urging spock to take over the ship when dark kirk gets back

In contrast, sisko is told about the mirror universe like 5 times and just changes his mind at the last second because "muh feelz" when obrien gives a speech right before his execution
Fucking retarded ds9 faggots pretending they have actually watched other trek is embarrassing

Maybe it's because tng was successful and ran for seven seasons and four movies so the quantity of badly written content surpassed tos

>TOS episode was the worst episode that Trek has ever done, yes worse than TNG's clip show, because it's literally not a Trek episode.

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i think you misspelled Farscape...

If you think that's the worst trek episode I'd like to hear what other episodes you consider absolute trash

>The speech he gives at the end doesn't even relate to their situation, hes urging spock to take over the ship when dark kirk gets back
He's urging Spock to take over the ship AND CHANGE THE COURSE OF HISTORY.

SPOCK: You must return to your universe. I must have my captain back. I shall operate the transporter. You have two minutes and ten seconds.
KIRK: In that time I have something to say. How long before the Halkan prediction of galactic revolt is realised?
SPOCK: Approximately two hundred and forty years.
KIRK: The inevitable outcome?
SPOCK: The Empire shall be overthrown, of course.
KIRK: The illogic of waste, Mister Spock. The waste of lives, potential, resources, time. I submit to you that your Empire is illogical because it cannot endure. I submit that you are illogical to be a willing part of it.
SPOCK: You have one minute and twenty three seconds.
KIRK: If change is inevitable, predictable, beneficial, doesn't logic demand that you be a part of it?
SPOCK: One man cannot summon the future.
KIRK: But one man can change the present. Be the captain of this Enterprise, Mister Spock. Find a logical reason for sparing the Halkans and make it stick. Push till it gives. You can defend yourself better than any man in the fleet.
SCOTT: Captain, get in the chamber!
KIRK: What about it, Spock?
SPOCK: A man must also have the power.
KIRK: In my cabin is a device that will make you invincible.
SPOCK: Indeed?
KIRK: What will it be? Past or future? Tyranny or freedom? It's up to you.
SPOCK: It is time.
KIRK: In every revolution, there's one man with a vision.
SPOCK: Captain Kirk, I shall consider it.

>Fucking retarded ds9 faggots pretending they have actually watched other trek is embarrassing
Oh, it's Nine Years.

There's tons of bad Trek, but again, there's no other episode that is a literal non-Trek episode.

We might fight
We might bicker
We may even call eachother faggots and niggers
But we can all agree
That the worst trek is STD

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I tried watching the cage and got bored like 5 minutes in. Never looked back

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It's okay, user. Some of us are God's chosen few, others are Marvel fans like yourself.

> Why did they stop making shows like that?

Because the attention span of your average viewer doesn't support them.

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I've only watched the first season so far. Was season 2 good in its treatment of spock, pike and number one?

And?
That doesn't really compare to the ds9 episode, which is a sappy speech hes already heard 3 times previously changing the mind of a supposedly hardened mercenary.
Spock already 100% knows that the mirror universe is real and is comitted to getting kirk back because of it (and more importantly getting his captain back)

Also, we never actually see if mirror spock follows through with any of what kirk pitched to him. Although I guess according to DS9s mirror cannon he didn't

See how they aren't really particularly similar?

Nobody here watched the second season. We allow Mike and Rich to watch for us, and then we watch their summaries.

I'd move tng 3 up, it had a few of the top 5 episodes from the series

I enjoy plato's stepchildren (unironically). Should I just end it?

>Was season 2 good in its treatment of spock, pike and number one?
No

DS9 was mostly the largest war the galaxy had ever seen

nah its a good episode.

>And?
Well you made a claim and it turned out to be wrong, but you're a coward so you try to change the subject instead of acknowledging that you were wrong about something, anything.

>Also, we never actually see if mirror spock follows through with any of what kirk pitched to him. Although I guess according to DS9s mirror cannon he didn't
Fucking watch the show. Spock did follow through on Kirk's ideas. He turned the Empire peaceful, and that's why the Empire was conquered.

INTENDANT: Interesting. On my side, Kirk is one the most famous names in our history. Almost a century ago, a Terran starship Captain named James Kirk accidentally exchanged places with his counterpart from your side due to a transporter accident. Our Terrans were barbarians then, but their Empire was strong. While your Kirk was on this side, he met a Vulcan named Spock and somehow had a profound influence on him. Afterwards, Spock rose to Commander in Chief of the Empire by preaching reforms, disarmament, peace. It was quite a remarkable turnabout for his people. Unfortunately for them, when Spock had completed all these reforms, his empire was no longer in any position to defend itself against us.

Are TOSfags the most autistic part of the Trek fan community?

technically the war didn't start till the end of season 5
and even leading up to that and after that the overwhellming majority of episodes are shit like
>dax is in love :3
>quark only has a week to live!
>quarks mom is the most popular author ever men btfo!
>siskos goes back and gets called a nigger during the bell riots!

theres way more fluff than substance in general.

You should give it a rewatch, it's better than you remember. The writers really started doing a good job in season 2 and it's a shame it went out like it did. If they didn't cut the budget and had another 2 or 3 season there would be a debate to put it up with tng and ds9.

>He forgot about voyager: warp 10

>theres way more fluff than substance in general
you just described every series of star trek

yikes

Season 3 was shit. They should've cancelled it sooner.

Why is the odo/kira relationship so cringe?

>Well you made a claim and it turned out to be wrong
What part of my claim was wrong exactly?

you said

>In fact, that's the ending of Mirror Mirror. Kirk wins by giving a speech to Mirror Spock about shit he already knew. It's poetry, it rhymes.

But kirk didn't win by giving a speech to spock, he had already won at that point by pretending to be the captain effectively, making it to the transporter, and spock already believed him because of the mind meld with bones.
You were wrong

>INTENDANT: Interesting. On my side, Kirk is one the most famous names in our history. Almost a century ago, a Terran starship Captain named James Kirk accidentally exchanged places with his counterpart from your side due to a transporter accident. Our Terrans were barbarians then, but their Empire was strong. While your Kirk was on this side, he met a Vulcan named Spock and somehow had a profound influence on him. Afterwards, Spock rose to Commander in Chief of the Empire by preaching reforms, disarmament, peace. It was quite a remarkable turnabout for his people. Unfortunately for them, when Spock had completed all these reforms, his empire was no longer in any position to defend itself against us.

I didn't remember that so I guess Im wrong on that point. Doesn't at all relate to the original premise though.

>but you're a coward so you try to change the subject instead of acknowledging that you were wrong about something, anything
You mean literally exactly what you just did?

Pike was fantastic, deserves his own show, number one is barely in the show but stands out whenever she's around, she looks like she was plucked right out of the 60's, Spock is kinda eh and his beard looks stupid.

Overall season 2 is a big improvement on season 1 but the overarching plot kinda sucks and the ending was terrible.

Spock had already been convinced to exchange Kirks, but Spock hadn't been convinced to change the course of history until Kirk gave a speech. You were wrong about the content of Kirk's speech and you were wrong about the function of Kirk's speech.

You misremember Mirror Mirror (or you never watched it in the first place, and just read a summary). You misremember Crossover (or you never watched it in the first place, and just read a summary). It's fine for you to dislike Crossover if you didn't like it when you originally saw it (assuming that you did), but you're really not in a good position to discuss a comparison of Crossover and Mirror Mirror.

maybe so, but TOS fluff or even some TNG fluff had alot more substance than
>quarks mom has a lover!
>odo is sad ;_;
>jake and nog are wacky roommates!
>Dax wants to fuck someone

>odo is sad ;_;
>jake and nog are wacky roommates!
These are good episodes though.

Maybe, but odo was completely ruined in the later seasons

Maybe, but Odo was only ruined when he was happy.

Sad Odo is peak Odo.

Changing the course of history wasn't the primary goal though, something thats pretty obvious considering they were planning on leaving before spock showed up
The speech was not the goal of the group, escaping the mirror universe was. It was only after spock said he knew what was up that kirk made his speech

Also if anyone is frantically picking over summaries over watching the episodes I think its probably the guy posting blurbs of text

And you have said nothing at all that excuses the shitty hamfisted ending of Crossover at all

It is the greatest tv show ever made, of course there's nothing like it.

Star Wars happened and fucked it all up.

The primary goal in Crossover is escaping the Mirror Universe. Changing the course of history is just a secondary bonus.

In trying to argue that they are different, you are only arguing that they are the same. The two episodes are poetry, they rhyme.

>Replacing Kes with Seven of Nine was a strategic move to bring in more horny nerds as viewers.
Absolutely the right move. Waifu-ing Kes is a real Kobayashi Maru considering she's a really sexy three year old.

>The primary goal in Crossover is escaping the Mirror Universe
Yes
That was never the arguement, its HOW they escaped that seperates them

you have:
>kirk and frens pretend to be mirror counterparts, kill some fucks, make it to transporter room, spock has figured shit out and comes to help, gives speech before they leave

vs

>ds9 pals arrive
>bashirfaggot gets sent to the mines
>kira recieves an exposition dump
>get quark killed, tell sisko whats up and he calls them faggots and dumps their books
>everybody about to get executed
>obrien gives tear enducing speech in front of a crowd about muh freedumbs which melts siskos cold cold heart and he switches sides

they are totally different and crossover is shit compared to mirror mirror

What'd you say 'bout Enterprise there, pardner?

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>Lexx and SGU in Very Low tier
You have to go back

There's a few details that you're leaving out, like Sisko getting his pride kicked in. Watch the episodes again (or watch them for the first time) and maybe you'll be able to reconsider.

But considering that you've been on a vendetta for 9 years, it's not likely.

No.

The autism power rankings are as follows:

DS9
ENT
TOS
VOY
TNG
**power gap**
Movie only viewers

You mean the most based part of the Trek fan community and yes, they are.

>There's a few details that you're leaving out, like Sisko getting his pride kicked in

That literally doesn't make it any better. Its amazing how unwilling you are to admit the episode just wasn't that well written and had a stupid fucking ending

>But considering that you've been on a vendetta for 9 years, it's not likely.
Literally what?

Are...are you defending SGU?
That stupid deeply fucking retarded show that litterally had people RAPE people on the show?

wtf I'm normie?

>That literally doesn't make it any better. Its amazing how unwilling you are to admit the episode just wasn't that well written and had a stupid fucking ending
But we've already proven that I remember the episodes and you don't, so what do you know?

>Literally what?
>Fucking retarded ds9 faggots pretending they have actually watched other trek is embarrassing
Disingenuous, dishonest, disgusting poster. You've been autistically raging at DS9 fans for 9 years. Get a new hobby.

yes
You finally made it lad!

Sg1 belongs in god tier
thats my only complaint

>tng above original series
kys

>no two people could be critical of the highly autistic ds9 fanbase, THAT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE!

this right here is why people fucking despise you fags

>you didn't remember the 2 minute exposition dump that ties the TOS mirror universe to the show without actually relating to the plot of the episode directly so you can't talk about it!

I've seen the episode multiple times, enough that unlike you I didn't need to pull up scripts to remember the major beats
also you were wrong on mirror, mirror so looks like maybe you should just go back to rubbing your avery brooks signed dilator on your axe wound

If you can't watch the cage or city on the edge of forever, you won't like TOS. Cause thise a4e probably the 2 best episodes.

This overrates TOS, but is actually the most reasonable tier list I’ve seen. Also the only person besides me that noticed the earlier seasons of Voyager were generally better.

it also has battlestar 1980 but not the original

that bothered me as well
especially as original battlestar is kino while 80 is hot garbage

Are you blind?

The most based part, yes.
Based

thats the remake battlestar near the top you dunce

High Tier: Remake
Mid Tier: Original
Satanic Tier: 1980

are you?

oh shit you're right
except for your opinion, thats shit.

Theres no better example of Soul vs soulless then OG battlestar vs remake

I already located the original for you, slowpoke.

ah, fair enough

>except for your opinion, thats shit.
It's not my chart, I'm just not a fucking Geordi like you.

yea thanks

The future's lookin' pretty good bros

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me on back left

Bro, wait till you get to the episode "The Doomsday Machine". Its fucking amazing.

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it sure is bro

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my favorite episode

The Doomsday Machine was truly great, especially considering that it was a bottle episode.

Patrician taste gentlemen

Welcome home brother

I was in that same situation once, you'll make it and you'll enjoy the journey. Watch it all.

I also always like it when spocks put in an odd position, like Galileo 7, but it works best here

The top TOS qt.

Don't talk shit about space hippies, they unironically had great music in that episode

correct

what would a joe rogan experience with gul dukat be like

None of that was AS BAD nigger. You didn't even say Move Along Home, which also wasn't as bad.

lions and tigers and bears was good, the only good jake ep, the visitor doesn't count since its candyman not "jake"

Yo Diana Muldaur was a top tier milf back in the day.

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*CHEAT GUIDE*

Star Trek Original Series

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Star Trek Movies 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

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Star Trek Next Generation Episodes starting with Brothers to Redemption Part II

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Star Trek Next Generation : Generations

Star Trek Next Generation : First Contact

Star Trek Enterprise : Regeneration Episode

Star Trek Voyager : Episodes staring with Unity and ending with Endgame.

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DS9 begins after Chain of Command though. Cardassians don't withdraw from Bajor until Based Jellico totally embarrasses them in front of the entire galaxy.

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Star Trek Picard.

Season 3 is the weakest one but its pretty underrated. Tholian Web, All Our Yesterdays, Whom Gods Destroy and Enterprise Incident are some of the show's best episodes. Hell I even really enjoyes the finale, Turnabout Intruder.

Yeah, there are some good season 3 episodes. The bad ones are really bad, though, and the overall quality was on the wane. You could really feel the studio meddling starting to rub up against Roddenberry's vision.

Tbf the bad ones on S1 and S2 are really bad too.

I also like platos children but thats just me

Crap you're right.

I keep thinking DS9 started after episodes Best Of Both Of Worlds I-II because of pre credit scene in it's pilot episode.

DOUBLE CORRECTION*

How To Watch Star Trek :

*CHEAT GUIDE*

Star Trek Original Pilot

Star Trek Discovery Season 2

Star Trek Original Series All 3 Seasons.

Star Trek Continues Web Series

Star Trek Movies 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

Star Trek Next Generation :

All Episodes starting with A Matter Of Horror to Redemption II

Star Trek Episode : Chain Of Command

Deep Space Nine All Seasons 1-7

Star Trek Next Generation : All Good Things Episode

Star Trek Next Generation Movie : Generations

Star Trek Next Generation Movie : First Contact

Star Trek Enterprise : Regeneration Episode

Star Trek Voyager : Episodes staring with Unity and ending with Endgame.

Star Trek Picard.

Just stop.

Yeah, always felt the season 3 shitters were substantially worse though.

No.

Never.

Can't you see Captain Picard ?

Strong men were born to dance in fire and time is fire that will consume us both ! HAHAHAHA !

The best and possibly most underrated part of TOS is the anime-levels of fanservice

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The fuck was with Malcom McDowell in that movie ? Dude.

Dumb people enjoy stupid action, neato special effects and simpleminded plots. Their top 3 complaints about TOS if they ever accidentally view it? Boring, looks terrible, and DID WE SAY BOOOORRRINNNNNG?

There are more dumb people on the planet than there are intelligent people. Those dumb people are also more likely to frequently consume new TV/film "product". Studios make shows which cater to what they want to see. Dumb fight scenes, shallow characters, over-sexing everything, braindead plots, and super duper CGI graphics.

A more recent trend has pushed dumb people to try and disguise themselves as traditionally more stereotypically "cerebral" types such as nerds, geeks, etc. Frequently these nerds and geeks also were fans of slower moving shows that had well developed characters, interesting plots, and they didn't care much about the aesthetics as long as the core concepts stimulated them.

Dumb people also noticed the nerds and their affinity for things like Star Trek, but of course they had no interest in learning about anything beyond surface level pop culture familiarity, and they certainly were not capable of comprehending what made the shows appealing to the nerds in the first place, resulting in a large contingent of people masquerading as nerds and Trek fans, wearing spock meme t-shirts but clamoring for a star trek which matched their idiotic dumb person desires. This is how JJ Trek was born as well as STD. The verdict is still out on Picard, but considering who is involved in production it's probably going to be a disastrous train wreck also.

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I never thought about this before, but you're absolutely correct and I now understand why I have such a deep love for master and commander.

But you keep fucking it up. You skipped all TNG between Redemption and CoC, then you skipped all TNG between CoC and AGT, among other mistakes. Then you're showing Worf on DS9 before he leaves the Enterprise. It's fucked and you're fucked.

maybe i'm just missing it, but where is Rand?

correct Mac, correct

Chart is missing Kelinda

s-sorry

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probably a lot of leading the discussion towards how the bajoran occupation was actually good and he did nothing wrong.

now its missing what are little girls made of

I imagine the lack of even a single statue would be brought up at some point

>LEXX STILL UNDER DISCOVERY
UPDATE THIS RIGHT NOW REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

look buddy I'm beholden to whatever horny old boomer makes these

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Reminder:

Star Trek 1996-1969 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the rest

i want kelvan gf
Also just realised that Galaxy Quest’s Thermians was a possible reference to the Kelvans

this image may look familiar but it's actually AI-generated disinformation for the purpose of sowing mandela phenomena, please and safely disregard viewing

>no Rand
It's alright though because we've got young Dr. Pulaski in the bottom middle. mmmmm she sure did get ugly.

thats better, based horny old boomer

>Nichelle with the top-tier abs

>universally loved by fans
>this is what DS9fags actually believe

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Yeah, they're delusional. They honestly believe true TOS fans would enjoy watching space mall.

Based user BTFO DS9fags.

>not including Galaxy Quest cast in God-tier and characters in mid-tier
do u even trek

Enterprise has some issues but honestly 3/4ths of it is aging well and is worth revisiting now that we're a few years on

What the fuck happened to her anyway? She just disappears in middle of season 1.

sub rosa is so bad its good.

Watch it for the scottish gamekeeper and picard catching crusher masturbating.

>Why did they stop making shows like that?
attention deficit syndrome

I want Uhura to sit on my face

LotGH is the only truly kino anime ever made.

It's really good, there are a lot of plots even better than some of the TOS ones. But nothing beats the Kirk-Spock-Bones dynamic, and I say that as a DS9fag. It's a once in a lifetime thing.

Gene probably stopped fucking her so they wrote her out.

Muse is one of the worst ST episodes but that's cherrypicking. I don't think any other DS9 episode comes remotely close, and I just did a rewatch last year.

muse is very bad, i'd agree its the worst

>They wanted William Shatner to have romances in each episode with a different person, because for him to be stuck with one woman was not good for him and it wasn't good for the audience. That's what they told me, so I was written out. There were two blond girls and one black girl. Nichelle was a more important character and couldn't be written out. Everything's political in America. One of the blondes had to go. The other one was engaged to the boss, so guess who went? I just about killed myself. I drank, that's what we do, we drink to get rid of pain. I was really mad. My God, was I bitter.

You're spot on. Gene fucked Nichelle on the reg and was married to Majel Barrett, so when it came time to fire one of the women, Whitney was first to go.

tbf Nurse chapel was way better then Rand

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I never even noticed the Season 3 budget cutting in TOS. The stories were still amazing. Sci-Fi fans are used to cheap sets.

The music is amazing

The Empath was mostly in a completely black room.
They must have spent the production budget on the writers of "Spock's Brain".

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Because on paper "soul" doesn't exist. It comes through as a quality as a result of care, love, and collective talent for a project. You can't generate passion.

I hated Battlestar Galactica. Is there a chance that I'll like Star Trek. Should I start with the original series?

You should start with the Ro Laren episodes of TNG

>I hated battlestar
which one? if the remake then TOS is as different as its possible to get, lso if you hated bsg then you are not really someone I want to talk to

Mirror, Mirror (2x04) had some great uniforms.

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she wasn't in mirror mirror you liar

>The death of Gene Roddenberry allowed that series to up its game.
Didn't he have a shit ton of autistic restrictions? I keep reading DS9 changes the game somewhat by having the main cast actually argue and having personal problems with each other rather than being a big happy family.

All I recall hearing about ST Discovery that was positive came from MovieBob, who I imagine basically wanked over it cause of the black woman lead and a shit ton of other very obnoxious 'POC and minority and female empowerment! Yes!!' bullshit.

I swear I get the impression Nichols has an intense hatred for Shatner and a lot of problems from working on Star Trek without having ever looked into the issue. Or maybe I'm confusing her with Takei.

I always like how he vetoed the idea of space pirates, no space pirates ever, and then they did it in s7 just as a fuck you, pt 1 is good though, I mean fuck rick, but up to the conclusion it was a pretty good 2 parter

she got raped 3 times accoring to her, also MLK apparently told her she should stay on the show because she was basically the only black female recurring character on tv at the time, but Nichelle has made up a lot of bullshit over the years so who knows how true it is, never got the idea she hated bill, just seems to like to give him shit, just bantz

>Takei
Their 'rivarly' is played up, as is Shatner's ham/cadence and the idea Kirk was a rebellious madman that used the rule book as toilet paper.

Check out the following:

Earth Final Conflict, it is another Gene Roddenberry show about an advanced alien species who, ostensibly, have come to Earth to share technological marvels with us but have nefarious hidden reasons for being here. A lot of cool concepts in this show and it is very conspiracy heavy. Lasted for five seasons, the first four seasons are good with a self-contained storyline but the last season is a joke.

Earth 2 is about Earth becoming a overpopulated shithole so a group of colonist head off to another planet to build a life but they encounter native intelligent species. It had a high budget since it was on network TV in the early 90s but the show didn't last long, two seasons I think.

I'd say neither of these shows rank higher than your mid tier but since you've seen all those shows you should check them out.

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do me a solid and put X Minus One on there as honorary cuz it's a radio show but more than half the shit in that image is based on the stories that came out of that show.

CBS doesn't pay me enough to call it DISCO.

I looked up Mirror, Mirror. She wasn't in the credits.
That doesn't make me a liar, just mistaken.
I don't remember where I got the photo of her in the Mirror Universe uniform.
Use your manners, friendo.

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I mean, this particular bit is a bit hard for me to watch
Aside from the pure sexism and humanism it's just so.... dated
Back to the humanism part, already on episode 18 and Kirk is already surprised these aliens aren't human. Like, a ship that's 99.9% human with voyages that take them to planets with more humans. Like... what the flying fuck is this
budget I hope?
Even Spock is basically a space elf

you should've just known nu-fren, use your brain tourist

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>"you're doing that too much"
>turbo hivemind vote system
>threads are all over the place and don't update automatically
this cesspool of a site ain't no cakewalk either, but it's easy to discuss shit and less overall censorship
the main problem with both is that they hate each other and are blocking off discussion just for the sake of petty rivalry

No i think you are talking about Takei.