LE HE'S JUST LIKE ME GUYS!!!

actually he's a self-portrait of Paul Schrader himself. look it up.

Would you?

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>underage jodie foster
well seeing as I'm a warm blooded heterosexual male, yes, yes I would

t. Woman

Pretty mediocre for all the attention it gets. If it wasn't for assholes identifying with it, it would remain "that Foster movie that she was really young in .... what was it called?"

Reminder: Kube is overrated

not him, but Taxi Driver isn't an especially mature or intellectual film.

the mature version would have had Bickle evolve and develop as a character, instead of deteriorating into a vigilante fantasy.

I would shoot the president for the privilege.

Note how they are absolutely SEETHING but do not explicity refute my central point. I cannot recall any instance in any debate where I have wiped the floor with detractors nearly as brutally as here.

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You don't have a point, zoomer. Yea Forums contrarianism has no more value than used tissue paper

What a shit take. No one talks about Foster movies now let alone in some alternate universe where Taxi Driver isn't one of the best films of the 70s.

I used to think DeNiro was cool but now that I know he hates my man drumpf i dont like him no more!!!

>Taxi Driver review
>DUDE MIND OF A PSYCHOPATH LOL

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>get put in your place for a two sentence denouncement of a universally acclaimed GOAT film
>get mad that someone didn't make you a 4 hour video essay about how taxi driver is in fact important

not him, but feel free to reply to any time you like

>did not bring anything new to the table
Not a criticism of the movie, you're criticizing other people's reactions to it. Very dumb

Threadly reminder this is DISNEYSHILLS at it again. Since this new Joker movie seems to be a Scorsesse remake they are trashing an all time classic. Just remind them that Star Wars is FLOPPING hard and watch them seethe. Don't forget to sage

what is there to reply to? what you said is not only dumb, it's not even a criticism of the movie

its true, despite me being born in the mid ninties I get a ptsd episode whenever rolling stones or creedence clearwater revival is played.

whatever your perception of De Niro is today, it has nothing to do with a movie made he made over 40 years ago. How is this even a legitimate criticism?

incel favorite movie
Taxi Driver is more relevant now than it was back in the 70s
It predicted crazy white men going on a rampage due to sexual frustration, also explores porn addiction of white men and consequences of it.
It predicted white women fucking niggers left and right (the scorsese scene), and white men being very mad about it.

That's why, Yea Forums loves Taxi Driver so much. That's why they identify with him. Travis, is in fact, an embodiment of an average white boi that browses Yea Forums. An Incel archetype, that don't know how to act around women. A guy that dreams of "dealing with rampant degeneracy" while being a hypocrite that participates in the degeneracy, by watching pornography. Not to mention his obsession with saving an underage prostitute, a typical pedo incel white knight scenario.

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What even is this take? The movie literally ends with him shooting out a pimps apartment what are you going on about with the "Robert deniro would never be in a movie where he kills a politician." Also if you think the entire point of the character study was to build tension about whether deniro would assasinate someone, which is a single scene in the movie, you're an idiot.

I thought the fact that it portrayed his descent into madness without glorifying or demonizing it was great. He was isolated, hopeless, directionless, LARPing about the marines/government work, and wanted to latch onto any cause he could (killing Palantine, fantasizing about killing others, killing the pimp, his goon, and the john), and in the end it briefly but aptly portrayed how he'd not changed any of his circumstances when he, paranoid, checked the back seat after the dreamy sequence of him fantasizing dropping off Betsy. Speaking of, him fucking up that date and her going cold on him was the only thing he was holding onto before beginning to plan to kill. While I do think that in real life he'd have been found guilty, this is a big detail and not from some heroic deed stance. He didn't even serve time, and while not behind bars, this put him right back where he started. No Betsy to date, no Iris to save, driving his cab. A prisoner of his own misery, with nothing to lash out at but his own circumstances.

>Travis is le incel xD
no he isn't

There's a difference between relating to a character and self-inserting as one. I doubt anyone who relates to the Taxi Driver guy would want to self-insert as another miserable incel.

>the mature version would have had Bickle evolve and develop as a character
That's what Taxi Driver does. He devolves instead of evolving but that's just as great if not better. People around here go telling people to have sex but what you really need to do is to stop watching capeshit and try to go deeper. If you have these troubles understanding Taxi Driver I can't even think what would you go through if you decided to watch a deep movie

because the movie relies on DeNiro being an unknown quantity for suspense.

a pretty significant number of scenes in the film fall completely flat. you just watch him get a mohican haircut but it means nothing because you know he's OBVIOUSLY not going to assassinate anyone. him getting a date with the political doesn't register as surprising because he's a movie star, it would be more surprising if she definitively blew him off. etc. it's a serious fucking problem.

holy shit you are retarded

Holy shit this post is even worse, SERIOUSLY you need to go easy with the capeshit

>It predicted crazy white men going on a rampage due to sexual frustration

you mean it glamorizes it, to the point of making it some kind of righteous act.

I think you've read negativity into the fairytale ending to avoid the more obvious conclusion that he hallucinated it while dying of his wounds.

the whole plotline of him dating the political aide and screwing it up is meant to create a motivation for why he might assassinate the politician (jealousy). it's not a single scene at all, duh. you don't even understand the movie you are a fan of.

Oh no travis cut his hair but I know how the movie ends so therefore the haircut actually makes the movie worse!

it's a similar problem to watching a police movie and a major character actor known for playing villains is cast as a secondary character. "gee I wonder who the killer is". or expecting anyone to watch a James Bond movie to find out if Bond survives.

>dying of his wounds
I can appreciate this perspective, and he'd definitely be widely praised as a hero. This is something I'd considered during the ending sequence, until he, alert, thought he saw something in the back seat. From my perspective, it detracted from the possibility of a heroic, definite, The End and close book conclusion. It showed that he was mentally unwell, and that he still remained, begrudgingly, both a participant and a critic of the lifestyle and habitat we'd seen throughout the movie

the politics plot arc is wasted.

the movie is structured so we're wondering HOW he will blow his top. in the original 70s context with rampant assassinations and Bob less well-known, it probably much more suspenseful than it is now.

Of course the politician and his interaction in the movie is important, I'm talking about this guy's dumb fucking point that travis' character building is all to create tension about whether he will shoot the politician, which is a single scene of the movie.

The point of the fucking movie is reflect on why travis would suddenly decide to try to kill a politician, not to build suspense about it.

how is travis incel retard? hes just socially inept ffs he got a date no incel would

>It predicted crazy white men going on a rampage
It really didn't. 70's new york was a literal hell hole, and a blight on civilization. Kotch did a lot to clean up the city and Giuliani turned it into a theme park.
Death Wish was also based on a true story and vigilantism was a thing that happened because fuck you, it's New York.

>he'd definitely be widely praised as a hero

you really think this? I doubt his actions would make the local news. do you think typical people care about real child prostitutes? the news won't cover that shit unless a celebrity is involved. the recounting of the whole story would be reliant on Jodie's own ability to describe Bickle's motivation accurately, which she probably wouldn't do because she only met him twice and might even see him as having killed her boyfriend. a lot of people would see it as Bickle wanting to kill everyone there so as to take her away and fuck her.

How is it wasted? He fails to kill anyone because he's not the badass he thinks he is.

This is not a criticism of the movie and it says more about your inability to engross yourself in the medium than it does anything else. If you can't watch a movie and disassociate an actor's prior work or real life status as a movie star from the story and characters being presented to you for an hour and a half then you legitimately might be autistic.

>yfw every post online says that something revered isn't actually that deep and you need to go deeper but never has any suggestions because they're parroting someone that told them that in an endless cycle of pseudo intellectuals using escapism to define themselves as people in the real world

>why travis would suddenly decide to try to kill a politician

but he doesn't: it's a cop-out just like First Reformed. he decides to do something equally violent but more superficially moral instead.

the movie is having its cake and eating it: making like it's a psychological depiction of a spree killer but then turning into a John Wayne movie at the end where the movie star only shoots Bad People.

That's true. I agree that, in reality, it'd be hush hush to avoid copycats and continue corruption, I should've clarified that I meant in the context of the plot when they showed he'd been let off in the papers. If he died killing pedos, he'd be a martyr to the locals.

We have alot of armchair movie critics that barely scraped by in a film class at uni. Their takes are usually empty

go watch the Deuce immediately. the government both created and destroyed 70s New York.

if you really think that wasn't a deliberate choice in order to offer commentary on how violence is viewed by society then I don't know what to tell you. I imagine you probably thought the violence in Inglorious Basterds wasn't meant to be heavily ironic and tongue-in-cheek as well.

I think it's very interesting and revealing that you'd see those two movies as being analogous. Paul Schrader takes himself extremely seriously in real life, much more so than Tarantino. I wonder how he'd react to the comparison.

The only comparison I am making is that neither film is celebrating the violence that is being depicted, as you seem to believe. That's your interpretation and it's a bad one that ignores each movies' subtext.

I agree here. NYC of the 70s was a violent place as portrayed in the movie. I doubt bickels little spree would have made big news. Ironically he went in to save iris from a fucked up life and ended up fucking her up even more by forcing her to witness two murders. Pretty sure the ending is a dying fantasy as well but people still debate this.

how often on this board do you see someone saying they liked a movie becuase of actual filmmaking merits and not because the movie didnt reaffirm his beliefs?

Discussing the merits of film making alone is boring to people that don't make films themselves in most cases. There's nothing wrong with enjoying things for plot/characters over technical merit and anyone that acts like you have to focus on technical merit alone is probably autistic, in the real sense of the word, like Werner Herzog.