I don't watch Manchester United games. Is this guy genuinely bad or does he just get shit om for every little thing?

Hes so bad its insane, and the worst thing isnt his price tag like some anons here are saying, its the fact that hes the captain and no matter what starts every single game.

England should have the best defense on Earth given how much knife crime there is in London.

if he was making the same mistakes in ligue 1 he'd stay on the bench desu and end up sold to epl

He's captain and plays everytime exactly because of his price tag. If he was a five million transfer he would never have been considered for captaincy and been dropped from the starting eleven ages ago.

Isn't that sunk-cost-fallacy? That doesn't make sense.

>he just get shit om for every little thing
this mainly. Man U customers aren't that intelligent, and maguire gets a ridiculous amount of flack for man u being terrible. On social media, if there's a football post, it will have comments somehow linking it to maguire even if the post has nothing to do with man u. He's had a really bad season plus a few clippable mistakes, the worst you could say about him is that as a captain he should rally the team during a loss, but that dressing room is so bad and clique-y that not even ronaldo being captain would fix it. I'm hoping we get a maguire redemption arc, but honestly the man u shitshow is so funny that even though I feel for the guy, I don't want the clown car to end.

He's shit, isn't even marketable because he looks like someone picked him up on Easter Island, cost like 70 million and captains one of the biggest clubs in England. Where do you expect to find sense in any of this?

He's slow, horrible on the ball and has horrible positional awareness. The only things he is decent at are occasionally winning headers and manhandling people if they are near him, doesn't matter if they are his teammate though like

He's alright for most of a match, but then he commits hilarious fuck ups you'd rarely see at amateur level, he's weird player to watch.

Really bad.
Gets dragged out of position, is very slow and not agile at all, clumsy and dumb.
Worst of all, he thinks he's a ball playing defender, so he overcomplicates things in possession as well, which leads to even more mistakes.

this, he's acc alright at developing play up the pitch and passes, but the man u midfield (which is normally just 2 players) is so disconnected from the attackers that man u struggle to get the ball to their attacking players. This is caused by a mix of man u playing a ludicrous amount of attackers, mcfred, man u having 3 strikers in the box waiting for a cross tap-in, lazy strikers not doing work to open up passing lanes to midfielders (see rashford). See man u vs everton for this problem with crosses. Plus, man u attackers can't really press, see man u vs city

He's incredibly bad and the USA is going to bootyblast him and his fraud ass in November

What I don't get is his captaincy, sunk cost fallacy and starting him because of his price tag is one thing but how is he the captain over DDG and Ronaldo?

My guess is they don't want to be held responsible for the bad team chemistry.
Kind of making Maguire the fall guy while he himself doesn't realise it.
Him being an England starter and actually performing decently for the NT probably add to it as well.

kek

The Leicester FC owner, scammed Manure, even 6ft. below. Kek

Silly mistakes every other game

how many tomorrow?

the least he could do is pass on the captain armband

I would say both

His pass would go out for a throw in

He's had a poor season for sure but he gets exposed a lot by the dysfunction around him. In a more balanced/structured team he tends to look a lot better than what he's shown for United.

>alright at developing play up the pitch and passes
jesus christ no he is not

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he's not agile, reducing the number of tackles he makes, and according to the room temperature IQ of the average football fan, that makes him "genuinely bad".

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He's good but he's a United player so he's overanalyzed to death.
VVD does similar mistakes but his fullbacks cover him so he won't get exposed

The funniest thing is they had Johnny Evans who is twice the player and sold him for peanuts to West Brom

He's not a bad CB by any means. Not worth $70m but that's not his problem.

Shit for United because United is shit

Come home Slabhead

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Based Johnny was underrated

He's a limited CB being asked to/trying to do more than he's capable of.
He plays better for England as he has an extra CB next to him to cover for mistakes and has less buildup duty, that's given to the wingbacks more.
He's good if you play him as an old school CB eg at Leicester, he's bad if you want a van Dijk.
Sean Dyche would unironically make him look like the best in the world.

>sunk-cost-fallacy
does this take the concept of saving face into account?
hiding him on the bench would be the same as putting up a huge sign that says,
>OI! WE MADE A MASSIVE FUCKING' BLUNDER INNIT
business people generally try to avoid looking incompetent

Maguire is a fine defender, thinking Maguire is bad is the ultimate test for whether someone actually watches football or not.

The fact that the team still uses him should be strong evidence that the actual experts still see value in him, in some way.

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they're professionals, not experts

Maguire is an easy scape goat and victim.

He thrives playing for England because its set up tactically to minimize his weaknesses.

United’s defensive is completely exposed. They play with a high defensive live, but the forward line don’t press the opposing team. Allowing through balls and crosses to be more effective. De Gea also does not come off his line and has no Ariel presence.

And Evans now plays for Leicester for £3m kek
NO REFUNDS

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He's unironically Englands best cb and would be well liked if he was still at Leicester or similar sized club.

>or similar sized club
he's at Man Utd

He is the most expensive defender in history. All while not even being the best defender in his team AND not even being the best defender in his previous team.

unironically one of the better man u players atm

Tomori and Smalling are the best english CBs by a mile.

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Yes he is

the captaincy was given to maguire as he's probably england 2nd or 3rd most recognisable england player (after kane and sterling). But when ronaldo came in, it's just ridiculous to keep maguire as captain as he's not the most senior player (also man u fans hated all the players moyes, van gaal, and mou brought in, so didn't want them as captains)

He's a good but very limited player, in the right system he can be great like he was for Leicester and is for England but the way Man United are set up and their lack of a proper midfield exposes his limitations badly

Stones is the best English centre back by some distance

louis van gaal was genuinely a criminal of selling the players whom he didn't want in the squad for dirt cheap.
wilfried zaha? 3m
rafael? 4m
buttner? 4.4m
nani? 4.25 m
kagawa? 6.5m
michael keane? 2m
evans? 8m
chicharito? 7.3m

Only one significantly undervalued there is Zaha.

1 own goal

no, he really isn't, it's a meme that somehow stuck to him during leicester/hull times but he hasn't done that once during his united tenure and I watch this fucking garbage of a team week in week out, both varane and especially lindelof are more comfortable on the ball than this turd fuck

He’s not awful, just clearly lacking confidence and feeling weight of expectation which leads to quite a few mistakes.

He’s not suited to United’s system which makes him look worse, although I’m not sure any defender would look good playing behind United’s midfield.

United almost always have a British or Irish captain, regardless of whether they're good or not. Hence the reason a shitter like Ashley Young managed to become the captain.
Think the only non-Brit/Irish captain of the Premier League era was Vidic for a year or so.