Best small nation in football?

We all know the giants of football, the teams who are, aside from occasional dips in form, perennial contenders for World Cups and continental championships, backed by a significant population and culture that support the continued success of these nations in the sport.

Those are Brazil, Argentina, Germany, Italy, France and Spain.

But then there are these smaller countries that share the football culture with these big countries, but don't have the advantage of a big population to maintain a continuous flow of talent that can compete with the big fish. Yet they sometimes made big splashes in tournaments where they went far, and on occasion, have won silverware.
Which of those is the most impressive?

For me, it's Holland.
Their successful period started back in the 70s, and since then they've been going toe to toe with the big boys. Winning the EUROs in '88, reaching 3 World Cup finals, going far in several tournaments, and playing remarkable football along the way. That way creating a genuine rivalry with one of the giants: Germany.

Uruguay is second here for me, because their biggest successes happened a LONG time ago (Copas don't count, they're only competing with Brazil and Argentina, and they happen like every three years). Also, they're making themselves bigger than they are with that four-star bullshit.

Some eastern European countries could be listed in here, like Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia, the USSR. But since most of them split in even smaller nations they can’t really reliably compete on the same level, apart from some blips, like with Croatia.

And before Anglos chime in, ask yourself this: Would you rather be by far the smallest fish in the big pond, or have an argument to be the best among the rest?

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England are a better football nation than Spain.

1 (One) EURO final, against three wins.
1 World Cup each.

I know Anglos are pretty delusional, but you have the face the truth Nigel.

The Euros, that trophy that Denmark, Czech Republic, Greece have won? The one Italy just won but couldn't qualify for the world cup? Yeah, it's irrelevant. Ony the world cup counts and England are better than Spain in that regard.

Its Uruguay. They dont even have 4 million population. Absolute overachievers.

If the euro is so easy then how come you didnt win it and beat your women when you lost??

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shut the fuck you coping retard. You nation is shit at Football and you will never be as successful as the likes of Italy, Spain, Germany or us.

1. Holland, both on NT and club level and individual level.
2. Portugal, same as above
3. Denmark, NT level and individual players
5. Czech, NT level.
6. Belgium, NT level and individual players
7. Croatia, NT level and individual players.
8. Uruguay, individual level. No one cares about the 30s. Get over it.
9. Colombia, NT level.
10. Ireland, NT level.

Germany and Italy yes, they are very far ahead. We are literally a better world cup nation than Spain though, it is a fact. France I don't count, they have never won anything with a majority French team

Yes, the cup where you only made the finals, because you played 6 out of 7 games at home, and cheated away fans out of participating.

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Its pretty equal.

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Not top level but we always are over performers of conCACAf despite being a small centraca nation of only 5 millions in population and with mediocre at best football infrastructure, we constantly compete with USA and Mexico, even beaten them at their home at least once and we have even topped a group death in the WC with two top euro team and Uruguay on it.
It's a shame that these performances aren't reflected in the mickey mouse cup known as Gold Cup, which we haven't won since the 89 before it was renamed

Best football nations:
Big 5, Netherlands, Croatia, Portugal.
South American trio.
And that's it.

If you give Yugoslavias achievements to Croatia, sure.
But by that measure I would say that overall in history Czechia is better than Croatia. They won the EURO in 76 and they have been in two World Cup finals.

First, these two states no longer exist. The best result of Yugoslavia in 45 years was one 4th place. In 20 years, Croatia took bronze and entered the World Cup finals. Conclusion: Croatia is better than Yugoslavia has ever been. The Czech Republic played in the Euro96 final and 2004 semis, but it does not have nearly as good players as Croatia, nor does it have continuity. The only World Cup in the last 30 years that the Czech Republic qualified for was the one in Germany in 2006.

>argentina with 3 final loses
now i know you pain netherbros

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We lost 4, also lost 5 semis. Goddammit we could be the best by a large margin but we choke all the time.

>a virgin toothpaste

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Netherlands and Uruguay are best on this image

Czechs won Euro'76 mate,
Czech mate

Neverlands

having reached that many semis proves that we are the best by a large margin desu

>uruguay only competes against Brazil and Argentina
Yes, and Uruguay is also the biggest winner of the tournament.

honestly Portugal has a pretty poor WC history for a "big" nation. I would put Netherlands and Uruguay above them.

Its absolutely Uruguay

this is probably worse than some countries like Sweden or Hungary, who are never considered "big"

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portugal is well above neverlands and has been for at least 20 years

yes we know were shit at the wc
but were still far bigger than them, over the last 20 years

inventing the sport counts as 10 world cups

Not at the World cup. Not even close.

lelgium and czechs are below croatia and uruguay, ireland shouldnt even be mentioned

This

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Benfica dismantled Real
Eusebio was better than Pele
66 was stolen after the English cheated
Ronaldo is the second best player of all time
Porto and Benfica have 2 CLs each and Porto also has 2 ELs
Got to the semi finals in the most stacked WC of all time (2006)
7 Ballon D'ors

1 Netherlands
2 England
3 Portugal
4 Uruguay
5 Croatia
6 Belgium
These are small big teams, some like Hungary or Czechs have great history but are weak today.

This is what I don't understand. England are always contenders. they have the best league in the world, the best football pyramid in the world, they have money, resources, infrastructure, clubs, academies, football culture and they certainly have a talent pool. on paper they should be ahead of Brazil and Germany but they always seem to choke and underachieve. and it doesn't seem like there's an explanation for thier constant shortcomings.

weak mind

don't care virgin
you've won a few afcons but you never even qualify for the world cup

Bad football culture. English kids don't play in the favelas like the south Americans or Europeans

Spain used to be like them. It's a mental barrier. The day will come when England finally ends the drought and probably wins a couple more cups shortly afterwards.

utter fucking nonsense
we played on the streets and in the parks, jumpers for goalpost type games
we'd play football anywhere and everywhere

problem is you don't see as many kids playing on the streets now like we did cause they're all inside on tiktok and fortnite etc.

but that's not an english problem, but the whole generation worldwide
the real problem is the english media that want to see us fail

> we played on the streets and in the parks, jumpers for goalpost type games
we'd play football anywhere and everywhere

Just like us. And yet, look at the two of us.

Half of that team were Slovaks, and Croatia was not an independent state at the time. Croatia has a specific football history, you have to take that into account.bYou can compare Czechoslovakia with Yugoslavia and Croatia with the Czech Republic. That's the only fair thing.

>Just like us
that portuguese idiot would probably claim germany don't play like that either

there are other reasons why england are shit but that certainly isn't it

>Argies with 0 3rd or 4th place since they always wins semis

>we don't get on the list
70s-80s Poland NT is underrated

no one cares
your current 2nd best player is an englishman with the least polish name ever

3rd in 1970 and 4th in '74?

Problem with England is the players always hate each other because of club rivalries.

3rd in 1974 after one of the luckiest semi finals for Germany and 3rd in 1982 after Boniek lost the semi final against Italy on purpose. We definitely could've won in 1974.

>Cash
>2nd best player in our team
lol he's good but he'd make top 5 at most

>Problem with England is the players always hate each other because of club rivalries.
that was the problem with our so called golden generation from 2002-2006, that team should have won something

just look at this starting 11, apart from david james in goal, all 10 outfield players were unironically world class

but the current squad are friendly with eachother which is kind of cringe in a way

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kek i checked your squad and i struggle to see who's better
cash is actually top 10 rbs in the world, athletico madrid want him

Some day you piratas will win something.
Even if I hate your guts I would prefer England winning it over ngubu France or Spain.

it's coming home in qatar la
it's happening

Glik is an amazing defender for the NT.
Zieliński is also definitely better.
Moder is very good.
Bednarek has been playing rather well.
Buksa doesn't get enough time but he's probably our future main striker.

> but the current squad are friendly with eachother which is kind of cringe in a way

That right here is the true reason. The English were never patriotic enough to look past club allegiances.
In Germany, Bayern now dominates everything, so there can be no real rivalries with a strong Bayern block and singular players from different clubs.
But even back in the seventies, when Bayern and Gladbach went toe to toe, the players never had problems in the national team, they were always a unit.

Literally every other NT had a golden generation in 2002-2006.

We had Figo, Deco, Ronaldo, Carvalho, etc.
Brazil had Kaka, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Cafu, etc.
France had Zidane, Trezeguet, Makelele, Vieira, etc
Italy had Maldini, Buffon, Cannavaro, Del Piero, etc
Argentina had Messi, Crespo, Riquelme, Tevez, etc
Germany had Lahm, Kahn, Schweinsteiger, Ballack, etc

Basically every NT was stacked during those years

It was a glorious time

But you never choked, all the defeats fell fair, Germany is the most consistent nation at the world cup. From 02-10 you never really deserved to win the whole thing, so the result feels fair

Our midfield played in the chilean league those years kek