So what was the deal with Becca at the end? Did she have consensual sex with Homelander like he said she did, got pregnant by mistake, and then made a deal with Stilwell to raise the kid? Or was she actually raped and tried to "make the best of it"? [/spoilers]
Also warning, spoilers on the show so don't open the thread if you haven't watched The Boys yet.
So what was the deal with Becca at the end? Did she have consensual sex with Homelander like he said she did...
Hmmm, tough decision. The puny, fragile human vs the chad superhero thundercock. A very tough decision for a woman indeed.
She almost certainly fucked homelander consensually but then had massive regrets about it afterwards. She was probably threatened to move away and keep the baby to protect themselves, but still has feeling for Billy.
Cuck ending confirmed.
So is the consensus on here that she cucked Billy and then fucked off leaving him in a dark place then? I'm pissed I missed all the discussion on this.
It was a ploy by the company to impregnate her so that she could raise someone as powerful as homelander but with morals. Ie Superman.
He found out though
I genuinely hope butcher kills Becca and the kid next season.
I'm really split on this because Becca doesn't look at all happy to see Homelander in the end. She also is acting realistically like a rape victim would in the flashbacks. Also Homelander is the one who led her up to the office. These things support the rape story.
On the other hand, she looks completely ashamed to see Billy in the finale, she raised the kid herself, she completely left Billy out to dry, she seemed rather taken by Homelander during that party conversation and she didn't seem traumatized when she was dressing herself on the video camera. All this supports the cuck story.
The chad homelander
vs
The virgin britcuck
Watch, for season 2 there will be some flashback showing Billy being an asshole to her, justifying her adultery/silence over the years.
>Butcher goes insane
>scours the world to find some way to defeat Homelander
>finds Loki's Mask
>SSSSSSMOKIN'!
With the way women on this show are portrayed as innocent or a victim of circumstance she'll likely claim it was rape in hindsight and say she did the noble thing and raised the child.
dunno.
in the comics, it was black noir, who is a physically identical clone of homelander but mentally deranged. he was put there as a failsafe in case homelander ever went rogue. black noir, in the comics, does a bunch of evil shit (like rape butcher's wife) in the hope that it will either make homelander snap and go on a spree (which will allow black noir to kill him, as he has always desired). black noir raped his wife, and then the super baby exploded out of her which resulted in her being dead.
It was all planned by Vought, but Homelander found out
The plan was to raise a real perfect 100% American child, just like in the fake documentary, where he could be controlled easily with no mommy and social issues like daddy Homelander
She was willingly BRED by Chadlander
im a little confused with the power levels of this show
starlight can blind people, but what else? Are all supes super strong and have a random power? mesmer didn't seem strong
also
how did homelander get billy out of the house before the explosion? does he have a train type of speed? is he faster?
most supes are at least a little stronger than gen pop, and have random pwers
I think that some/most of them have some level of super durability and increased strength, but not everyone. Mesmer for example seemed like just a normal dude aside from the fact that he can read minds. Translucent seemed like he had super durability but not super strength.
Homelander blocked the explosion, well most of it away from Billy.
Ending is a huge drag. I hope they redeem it somehow in season 2 but I can’t imagine how
She had a consensual fling with Homelander. It was just a novelty fuck, I mean no woman on the planet would resist the offer to fuck the real life Superman if he takes an interest in her. She was probably going to tell Butcher about it, but then she got pregnant. Homelander clearly never found out, but Stillwell had to get rid of her and the kid, because a family would be Homelander's first weakness. She told Becca to say goodbye to everyone she loved but instead, she sat on a bench for three hours, incapable of confronting Butcher. So she relocated and raised the kid.
My guess is they're actually on an island somewhere, in a fake middle America. The kid is too dangerous to be around normal civilians or potential bullies.
>how did homelander get billy out of the house before the explosion? does he have a train type of speed? is he faster?
Homelander is extremely fast. Probably not as fast as A-Train, but definitely around that level. He's basically everyone in the 7 combined into one.
She clearly wasn't raped. She had a crush on Homelander as the party scene highlighted and when she left the room she looked fine. Just dishelved due to a 3 hour fuck fest.
Homelander probably stepped over and hugged him and then flew straight up or something. There would have been enough force to knock Billy unconscious immediately but not enough to kill him.
Oh fuck it's the "can Superman outrun the Flash" thing all over again
homelander is superman.
homelander and black noir were grown in a lab to specifically be really good. quite a better than the average superhero or supervillain.
the average person takes a watered down version of the superhero drug and the effects are either temporary or significantly diminished (at least compared to homelander).
the powers are also random, but most people get some sort of durability and strength.
What's up with the scene in the comics where she's groping her tits?Tell us more about Maeve.
YA THINK?
I hate how the powers are random and not designated by scientists tampering with the drug. That seems like lazy writing.
Son is real,Becca is Doppleganger it was teased through the whole show you fucking plebs.
dude came in 3 seconds, how is he supposed to last 3 hours?
She has been living with Homelander the whole time
Homelander has super speed just like Superman.
That would actually be a fucking incredible twist but I doubt they thought of that. How she looks when she sees Butcher implies to me she isn't Doppleganger. Also if she was, why would he even have to look like Becca? They could have just given the son to a random mom and lied to him.
No she hasn't.
When the plot needs it. And then BN's skull can be cracked open with a regular fucking crowbar when the time comes.
This to me is the key. The premature ejaculation scene wasn't just there to make fun of Homelander, it's either a red herring or indication that the 3 hours stuff doesn't add up.
First, how can a human last 3 hours fucking a supe. Second, how can a premature ejaculator last 3 hours.
We know penetration took place, we know she was there three hours. What if she was given a task to raise his child by Doctor V? She was there for three hours to make sure inception took place, she forced herself onto him.
Becca is the mother Homelander should have had, she's raising Homelander 2.0 for Vought.
Because Homelanders favorite thing to do is be a monster, and having Doppleganger impersonate Becca is a cherry on top that will be revealed within 5 minutes of season 2, giving Billy more reason to kill Homelander and his kid
Homelander and Becka had consensual sex many times and it was kept under wraps heavily, however Homelanders clone Black Noir is the one who raped her.
Dude what if
it was Black Noir all along who brought Butcher to becca
Decoy Octopus is a much more entertaining version of this trope
What makes you assume his bones would be of particular strength?
Yup and also killed the milf
So you're implying that Homelander is the one who arranged for Doppleganger to impersonate Becca? Then who the fuck was raising the kid?
Black Noir isn't who he is in the comics. Homelander's killer will be his son.
Me on the left
Doppleganger seems like he's good with kids.
All the scenes with old ass hag past the first episode was boring and unnecessary.Yeah yeah we get it Vought evil
>no woman on the planet would resist the offer to fuck the real life Superman if he takes an interest in her.
Correct, since all women are whores.
I feel like the whole show is now riding on the acting capability of that kid. If he's a typical shit kid actor then it's going to ruin the entire show.
I think you mean the leaked pics from herogasm. Meave in the comics is a bitter somewhat older woman. Homelander dates her for a while but tricks her into having sex with Black Noir (he's the same size and she's wearing a blindfold). After that they break up and she drinks martini's all day long.
>writers know that people know that Black Noir is basically Homelander 2.0 but still want to subvert both fans and new audiences by wanting to come up with a new but similar twist
>finale literally is far from comic's arc for Homelander
>they'll instead have Homelander basically raise the kid
>kid grows up looking exactly like Homelander 2.0
>kid later betrays Homelander and mortally wounds him
>"b-but youre my son"
>kid laughs and reveal he's actualyl Black Noir's son
SUBVERTED
this shit has 100% happening if they kill off Black Noir early
It happens to the best of us.
What I'm saying is Homelander only just found out about Becca. So if he is the one who got Doppleganger to impersonate her he would have had to fly eight years back in time to do it so that Doppleganger could raise the kid.
When does that happen?
when stillwell lets him ride
He's bullet-proof for once and can take a hit in the head with a metal bar from a top supe as QM? And then suddenly he can't from a trash like butcher.
in this universe, people can get powers from being dosed with the drug compound v, having super parents and growing up in an environment rich with compound v pollution.
2h59m were about Twitter marketing strategies, retards.
nice try, kripke
fuck off cunt never talk to me again
What issue is the Homelander gay sex from?
this, that was so fucking stupid
of course Yea Forums projects cuckold fantasies onto a rape victim. the autism of this place is overwhelming at times
Have sex. Seriously
If it was consensual she regretted it immediately, and it might have still been rape if in a 'he can kill me in an instant, but if I don't do anything and keep quiet he'll leave when he's done' sort of way.
Still wondering why she didn't just get an abortion either way, but I can imagine that she tried but the fetus survived the attempts.
Just read the Herogasm arc, you pervert.
homelander cracked open black noirs skull, butcher just broke a piece off. when 70% of your brain is exposed, youre fucked, supe or human.
In the next panel, Homelander calls her dumb for attacking him with a prop weapon. It isn't a real sword.
Could go an hour at least with one girl, could barely get inside another without blowing. Attraction makes a mess of us all. I blame falling for the nofap meme.
black noir won't be homelander's clone in the show
He wore a condom for 2:59:30
>justifying her adultery/silence
How about just breaking up with him, crazy idea i know but it may have benefited them both.
this desu
If she cucked Butcher and then just disappeared, leaving him to spiral into the abyss, she’s a truly despicable character, which I assume the writers must know. It’s fine if she’s a despicable character, there are plenty in the show, but I kinda doubt they would go for that angle. But would Homelander really risk letting her walk away if he actually raped her? Unless it actually was Black Noir, and then Vought stepped in to cover it up. It would make sense that BN would want to leave her alive. It’s also possible that the doctors were right when they said Homelander is sterile, but BN isn’t.
The theories about Vought purposefully having Homelander impregnate her to create a new super spawn don’t hold much water. Why would they choose a married woman to rip away from her husband, creating so much room for bad PR? They surely had a hand in the coverup, and probably want babby Homelander to be a new, better supe when he grows up, but there’s no way they planned it.
So did Maria and the baby die?
She got raped by ______Noir, ended up pregnant and then left Butcher to protect him or some shit.
What bad PR? Literally no one cared about her disappearance apart from Billy.
Also, if she volunteered to be a mother to humanity's savior then that's not really despicable.
It's because he was totally lusting after Mommy. Imagine being with an average girl at least in your eyes. You could last all day, but if you finally got to fuck your dream woman that you have been obsessing over due to mommy issues you would be excited too.
I am guessing the three hours is real, but I wouldn't be surprised if they throw a twist to redeem her like she was date raped or something. She does kinda look ashamed/confused in the video.
>implying she isnt putting on a happy face because Homelander could(and would) bash her skull in at any time.
Potential bad PR. If you’re planning to birth humanity’s savior, why the fuck would you secretly arrange a half baked scheme involving some married employee? There are a lot of ways it could’ve bitten them on the ass, like giving her grieving husband a vendetta against them, for example.
Cheating on your husband and then letting him believe you were murdered or committed suicide is despicable no matter how you slice it.
Whether the sex was consensual or not, I’m sure it’ll come out that Vought kept her quiet and she disappeared “to protect butcher.” But logically, she should’ve just told him she was leaving him.
I wouldn't be surprised if they handwave the kid away fairly quickly. Shows do not do well with a child centric focus generally. It can happen but most kids suck at acting for obvious reasons. My guess is Homelander aka Black Noir kills the kid and Becca in the first scene of season 2. That would set up the whole twist. I think focusing on a kid with super powers of a mary sue spells disaster. Give me a show or movie where a kid that is perfect was ever well received.
>She does kinda look ashamed/confused in the video.
she just cheated on her husband
Homelander can’t perform. I’m guessing the season two twist will be she was actually raped by Black Noir while Homelander watched, and possibly masturbated.
That's most likely the case, although the fact that it seems so simple might be a red herring
It's not ambiguous you faggots. They spend 3 hours in the closet together, that's consensual.
"My bad"
pretty much, you don't survive getting raped for 3 hours by fucking homelander
>so that she could raise someone as powerful as homelander but with morals
Why would the company want that?
It was consensual. Her sitting in the park for three hours was her coming to terms with the fact that she would have to disappear from the world, leaving behind her husband, family and friends to raise the child. There, it's all solved. Now let's talk about Popclaw's incredible ass.
It’s ambiguous enough that for season 2 they can play it anyway they want. I personally believe it was consensual based on:
>she looks shaken after the sex but not grief stricken
>he came inside and she either didn’t want to or couldn’t get rid of the baby (abortion or morning after pill)
>she responds positively to Homelander the first tile they meet
>she never contacted Butcher
Because he fetished Mommy to an insane degree. Because 3 hours of that weren’t just sex. It would be chatting, work, flirting and then sex. Plus second rounds etc.
did he deserve it?
>Her sitting in the park for three hours was her coming to terms with the fact that she would have to disappear from the world, leaving behind her husband, family and friends to raise the child.
how the fuck would she know she's pregnant a few hours after the fact? shut the fuck up dumbass
>(abortion or morning after pill)
It's bold of you to assume that super sperm would react to the morning after pill
Because Homelander is a ticking PR timebomb?
That would make sense if she was a part of the plan all along. That is my guess. She didn't sleep with Homelander because she cheated and had a crush, she did it for work. She was offered an opportunity to raise Superman and she took it. That is why she looks guilty. She most likely chose money and fame over her husband due to her loyalty to Vought. That is my guess anyway.
I guess the brainlet meme is really going full force in this board we are truly sharing the board with some full brain dead tards.
If you watch the show Its pretty obvious that she was not raped, she cheated its simple as that.
>the initial sex was consensual
>Vought forcing her into hiding with the kid to keep it under wraps also to keep they "power" over Homolander
>Homolander learn the true by fucking the old man at the mansion.... laser you bitch
>Homolander cant have kids so as the old man say this is like a miracle
>For Vought this kid is like a free Homelander 2.0
>Vought keep it a secret from him because Homolander is a nutjob literally everyone was scared from him and in every scene he is around normal people he look likes hes trying really hard not to murder everyone
>basically Homolander was raised in a lab developing major mommy issues
>Vought wanted the kid to be raise by its mom and not be crazy af like Homolander and probably they plan was at some point in the future the kid will replace the Homolander
I think the kid will be the same power level but actually good and at the end will overpower Homolander with the help of the boys
I hope you are wrong about the last bit. That would be incredibly cliche and not well received. Also they didn't use the boy as power over homelander since he didn't even know he existed. You can't leverage someone with something they don't know about especially since they were straight up lying about his existence.
You do have a point about replacing homelander with an actual Superman with morals though. I do believe this was there intent and why they kept it a secret so as to not have his emotionally fucked up father ruin it.
As is practically every other hero that works for them. And the company itself is also involved in loads of shady shit. Someone with actual morals in a position of power would get them shut down instantly.
If billy forgives her I’m done.
Why did they change his back story?
Was a newborn super ripping itself out the mother's womb and then being killed just too edgy?
Added drama between Becca and Butcher probably. You have to milk time somehow and writers are constantly looking for ways to pad out shows.
Doesn't change the fact that Dr. V saw Homelander as his greatest mistake, it makes perfect sense for him to want HL replaced by a proper version.
>how the fuck would she know she's pregnant a few hours after the fact?
She doesn't disappear until a month after she has sex with Homelander. They fuck at a Christmas party and her last sighting on the CCTV footage is the end of January.
But wasn't homelander not even aware of his sons existence? The old scientist revealed to homelander the whole story about his son and about how Becca died in childbirth.
>Implying that at least half of all women wouldn't jump on the chance to have their roast beef absolutely destroyed by literal Chad Thundercock
i've been hooking up with an asian mommy who has a fat ass and is 4'11. i busted within like 1 minute the first time haha. gonna see her again friday lads
if becca actually cheated on butcher then wouldn't the entire motivation behind his character be thrown out? he hates supes because they thought they killed his wife but turns out his wife was just a whore. so now what, will he still hate supes?
He premature ejaculated because his mommy fetish turned him on too much. Ever find that perfect porn video and cum in like 30 seconds? We don't always last the same amount of time.
Season 2 is Butcher getting revenge against roasties, recruiting a team of misfit neets to help him destroy the femoid menace.
Homelander is obviously unhinged and needs to be replaced by a stable successor asap, I guess they miscalculated how much time they had before he started killing Vought staff and going AWOL
Understand the concept of love.
Did they really think his son could kill him? I thought he's basically invulnerable.
Was the story MM told to Hughie true?
>people saying it was obviously rape based on the amount of time there were in the room
I'm guessing the logic behind this is that sexual assault is usually relatively short incidents, but you guys know it would still be "rape" if he told her she had to let him do what he wants with her in order for her to keep her job right (like the fish guy and starlight)? In that case, things taking a while doesnt seem so farfetched. Either way, she clearly didn't like what just happened to her when she left.
She hasn't
Vought disappeared her to some suburb to raise Homelander's son, Homelander didn't find out about it until 8 years later, during the events of the show. When he sees the kid and says they're a family, that's the first time he's ever seen him
she does look happy when she sees homelander.her expresion changes though when she sees butcher lying on her lawn
>she does look happy when she sees homelander.
I'll have to rewatch the scene, but im pretty sure that bullshit. I remember her looking shocked and concerned the whole time.
the fact that Homelander lasted less than 10 second sex'ing with Stillwell hints that his story about making Becca cum 3 time might be a lie (unless it's just his momcest fetish that is too strong to resist)
but the footage makes it look more as if it was consensual imo
How long after the rape/sex did she figure out she was pregnant? Bc she never saw Butch again. She just felt sick immediately after the incident then told vaught about it?
Is this autism?
Why did vought tell the CIA it was rape? Why not just say it was consensual? Doesn't this just complicate things and also alert the CIA that homelander is a terrible guy
Yeah. I like the show, but I'll never truly be happy with it because they cut out Butcher reading his wife's diary after she's dead.
He can't talk to porpoises tho
Who knows I mean even with the NDA and shit why did she abandon Butcher/her family.
In the comics she says she didn't struggle or scream because just the grip of Black Noir was enough to completely silence and dominate her. She could also feel that he was using zero strenght to do it, because he was so much stronger.
Maybe the same shit happened. But I have no idea why Homelander would lie, he could have let Butcher die, maybe she really did cheat, I dunno.
made her cum THREE times
It’s a fucking prop weapon
But she doesn't see Butch again after the incident. Right after the park moment we never see her again
Same reason black noir was a homelander clone in the comics
>single mothers
>raising kids with morals
I'm seeing a flaw in this plan
I like how despite being 8 years together. It only takes one moment like that for her to cheat. What’s the point of relationships then. All those years were pointless.
This is how it should play out.
At least there's a chance it was rape and she was told to raise the kid in isolation or else there would be consequences. We don't know everything yet
Shit, I can see that happening.
Yeah Butcher is the ultimate cuck
nope she is a whore in the show
In the scene where he's beating the shit out of Mesmer we see clips of Becca looking distant and Butch trying to get her to talk, then Butch coming home to find Becca gone. I guess we don't know the full context of why she was acting distant but Butch doesn't get the idea that Homelander is the reason for her disappearing until Mallory suggests it.
When Homelander baptizes Hughie, does he fuck with him because Hughie said that he was afraid of water on a powertrip or because he already suspected him?
Doppleganger actually fucked Becca.
M.M has family drama in the comics, they could have used that.
In the comics, supe babies have a faster growth in the womb. It was either Becca or HL's mother in the comics that had a 3 month pregnancy before the baby went chestburster on them.
So wait if Homelander was framed by Noir for the rape of Becca does that mean at the end of Season 1 that its Black Noir fucking with Billy? and if thats the case does that mean it was Black Noir watching Stillwell?
Wait. I thought he never saw her again at the park? I thought she got "raped" then went to the park for 3 hours b4 disappearing for good? Can you break down the timeline of the events
She's the qt from Flash with the phenomenal ass. Homelander has excellent taste
Is the deep going to get a redemption story? I actually ended up liking the guy.
I think the sex with homelander was consensual. Apparently Mallory and the Butcher fucked many, many times when he was still working for the FBI and the way Butcher remembers his relationship with Becca is through rose-tinted glasses.
Their relationship was probably pretty shit with butcher fucking Mallory non-stop and his wife might've had her own affairs, with homelander for instance.
So, with stillwell dead, who is going to be in charge next season, homelander? It's hard to imagine Homelander being a political threat when he's so fucking insane, how is he going to make any deals without terrorizing civilians and revealing himself as a monster?
Wouldn't the real homelander remember fucking becca for 3 hours
Gus off Breaking Bad, presumably. He's CEO after all
i really hope they do go for the he was a clone and do something different, they already killed stilwater
Butcher is gonna raise the kid aint he? Thats gonna be his kill all supes redemption, to raise one right. Hes gonna be the stop my invincible son dad aint he?
>Why did vought tell the CIA it was rape?
Because it was rape.
Nice.
>Why did vought tell the CIA it was rape?
wait, when did that happen?
I don't get it.
There wasn’t a discussion, it was pretty self explanatory
She was staring into space for 3 hours because the corporation was intimidating her into raising the kid somewhere alone
>Mothers the Overman
Mud people can't compare to BSC
You know Transparent was with her, right? They were presumably negotiating terms of some sort
Comics are different from the show dumbass
How did Butch find out, in the show?
>Becca was the rapist
that would subvert so many expectations. I hope they do it just to see the shitstorm
>Transparent
Vought didnt tell the CIA it was rape. The CIA lady told Butcher "whatever happened in there homelander was involved" and she came out with some clothes missing.
Butcher couldn't deal with being cucked so he made up the rape hypothesis to explain it.
What if it was actually black noir that fugged her?
Well Translucent is a terrible name
She thought she was raping black noir
if he knew about her, he would have said something when he was trying to say something to stop butch from killing him
That's probably what happened considering Black Noir isn't who he is in the comics, maybe it was the plan all along and she came to Vought to do that and not just because she was hired for that job, she was somehow "a good material" for giving a stable and healthy super without Butcher knowing it.
So she is the one who insinuated Becca was raped and possibly killed by Homelander? Why did the CIA not investigate after she went missing and vought being the last to see her? Pretty suspicious
How would he know who he was?
Black Noir is the rapist in the comics (he's a clone of Homelander tasked with killing Homelander if he ever goes full evil), but given what we've seen of Black Noir in the TV version it doesn't look like thats the direction they're going in.
>he he you figured the show would loosely follow the source material like most adaptations you dumbass
Sort of related, but spoilers for anyone who hasn't read Spawn the comic series.
So Spawn is about a guy named Al Simmons, who is a mercenary for the government, and is married to his wife Wanda who literally means everything to him. He dies while out on a mission, and when he dies his soul goes to Hell, where he sits before Malebolgia, the demon prince, and is offered the chance to go back to Earth to see his wife again, as long as he serves Hell as one of their champions in the coming war. He agrees in a second and goes back to Earth, but he's not himself anymore, instead he's this burnt, charred corpse covered in a living suit of chains and spikes and he is so hideous that he can't actually go back to see his wife because she wouldn't recognize him. Also 5 years have passed since he died and she's married to his best friend Terry now anyway. So he goes off to live in a back alley in New York City and spends his days there.
At the very end of the series, Al actually has the power to turn himself back and go see his wife finally, something he's tried to do many, many times over the course of the comic's run, but he is stopped by "God" (actually God's mom), who says he can't. He goes anyway in ghost form and sees Wanda and Terry arguing, and he & Terry learn from that argument that Al had always been violent and abusive to Wanda, culminating in him punching her in the stomach when she told him she was pregnant to try and get him to stop going out on missions. He killed the baby and nearly her, and she was going to leave him, but he died instead. Everything after is his punishment & penance for that.
I mention all that to say this; I can't say I'm positive, but I am fairly sure the writers are going to pull the same story move with Butcher, and use essentially the last episode to reveal that his wife cheating & leaving him and everything that happened to him since is essentially punishment for his crime of beating her and being an abusive douche.
That's my bet.
He’ll probably collapse into depression for half a season before Hughie gets him back to supe killing because of some sort of necessity, and Butcher just goes along because they still ruined his life and his general idea of them is still correct, even if his personal vendetta no longer applies
>Christmas party where Homelander and Becca make plans for a meeting to discuss social media
>Some days after the party, the meeting occurs. Becca emerges three hours later, disheveled, undressed
>Becca acting distant, Butch asking what's wrong
>Jan 24th: Becca at the park, last time she's ever seen
>Some time later, Mallory goes to Butch's house, shows him the footage of Becca and Homelander going into the office, tells him Homelander is responsible for her disappearance.
So there's a few weeks/a month between the meeting and her disappearing. Whether it's enough time for her to know she's pregnant and make a deal with Vought is up for debate I guess, but it's not an immediate disappearance.
could you even abort superman's child?
lmao
Having Noir not be a clone would be too big a change. They'll get there in the end, just not the same way
Considering the boys don’t have fucking powers, it’s very much divergent
He's probably not, dude. He was stabbed.
Part of me wouldn't be surprised if they nixed that part, but they almost certainly are not going with Black Noir being the guy she cheated with. Mostly because they spent literally 0 time in the series introducing Noir, telling us what he can do, who he is, anything about him. We meet literally all the other heroes because their character and personalities matter, but Noir we don't because the writers likely decided to drop it. Otherwise they'd have to (if they were competent) at least put a flag in there to give us SOME sort of hint that maybe what we're seeing with the Homelander security footage isn't exactly as it seems, but they don't do that.
There's too little characterization of the guy to just say "Yeah he knew about the meeting, he borrowed one of Homelander's suits, combed his hair and pretended to be the guy just to fuck this random chick that Homelander hit on at the party.", especially after giving us no indication in any way that the guy is even capable of such a thing.
Also why would it even happen? Did Homelander send Noir to do it? Was it just Noir at the party? How did he know about the meeting and how did he insert himself into that place at all?
>shock after a rape doesn’t always manifest as having an immediate breakdown
>super baby probably swallowed the Plan B and lived because it’s a fucking super baby
>you can be nice to people and still not want to get raped by them
>Vought could have been monitoring her communications. Or maybe they told her Butcher died
I want them to keep the rape storyline because if Butcher’s just a cuck with a horrible wife it ruins about half of the storyline
>Amazon Prime shill thread
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His powers only activate when he's in Killlander mode iirc except for his generic Seven powerset. We'll get a scene of him taking off his mask and revealing he's a clone at the end of S2 or some shit
>set up a funny, autistic fuckup who’s likable and charming
>have him bj rape a girl so half the audience can’t bring themselves to like him no matter what he does in the future
bravo, the boys
Most comments on YouTube seem to be people feeling sorry for him. Fuck the ones that can’t feel bad for him it’s cause his gills freak them out
This confused me a little too.
So we know, at least we're told via exposition, that ALL supers are made by injecting babies with Compound V, and we know by being shown it that their powers develop and manifest at close to full strength when they're literally newborn infants (baby laser eyes). We're also told by Translucent that he has super strong skin and he's clearly bulletproof. This MAY be only while he's invisible, but I don't think his dialogue implies it is. Maeve is also bulletproof and super strong, enough to not flinch while an armored truck hits her at full speed.
However A-Train is not super durable at all, I don't think Annie is, Mesmer certainly isn't, I don't think Popclaw is, and Asian Girl isn't.
So I think it's kind of random, people are just sort of as strong or tough as the story needs them to be? To be honest, there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason to who gets what powers from Compound V, because if one person can get flight, invulnerability, laser eyes, strength, and X-ray vision, and one person just gets the ability to touch you and see your past, that's kind of wonky.
>>super baby probably swallowed the Plan B and lived because it’s a fucking super baby
It wasn't a super baby the day after she got fucked.
But I do agree with you that the ending and the strong, strong implication of Cuck Butcher literally ruins his entire character and all of the things he did in the series.
Same way in the comics. Sometimes V just kills you, sometimes it makes you a god. Works better if it’s applied in utero. But you can get that shit from eating fish that swam in some water with it in it. Whores snort cut V to be able to take super dickings for a few days before it passes their system.
Well, they failed. The deep is very likeable still. Though i suspect hes going to have a vomic relief death in S2
Yeah the temporary Compound V thing doesn't make much sense. Like, I get that the comics invented it as a way to essentially give The Boys enough power to actually stand toe to toe with the supers (which is one thing I like more about the show, actually), but I don't get how if you just keep injecting it enough then those powers just become permanent like with the babies or with Allahu Akbar Man.
Like why does it work better with babies? And how long do babies keep their powers like eye lasers? Also how do you test babies for their powers?
The whole thing feels very deus ex machina to me. Bear in mind I don't think the comics are particularly well written on the whole, I think Ennis kind of sucks.
A dolphin will throw him through a windshield. See how he likes it.
Actually the boys had the pure shit in the comics speed reader. They mention it multiple times. They’re always powered up
There is absolutely no indication that she was actually raped.
Mallory never even claimed it.
It was entirely a fabrication from the Butcher because she stared off into space for 3 hours, which we now know was about her disappearing to raise the kid
And the injections of cut v doesn’t build up, it’s just a few days boost. A weak one, you just need to get some of the pure shit in you for it to affect you and then it can happen anytime
Look at mother’s milk. His mom was exposed while working at a place that used to hold it.
In terms of activation it went
Mm for weakness
Mm’s retard bro
Mm for power
Mm’s mom (horrifying)
Announcing reports is against the rules too you know
He's aussie you dumb fucking cunt. I'm an obese negro and even I can tell.
The show called him a brit but that's the writers being retarded women
He's a kiwi not an aussie dumbfuck
Because he's a friend of Starlight.
Even with that damage, if I recall the Kents couldnt cut Clark's hair, even if you hold a part of brain it would be like squish a fucking stone with a bare hand.
Basically think V as a mix of asbestos cancer and surprise steroids.
They inject kids in the comics, and sometimes it kills the kids fucking with their dna, sometimes they get powers l.
Starlight was straight sold to get injected and become a child super hero pageant.
The G-men do it to the orphans they “acquire”
The original seven had it applied as test tube babies and they’re the ones who made it, homelander being the first followed by noir and queen then the others. That’s why they’re so strong, cause in utero with the pure shit is the best base for a supe in the setting and it burns through a lot of fetuses to get your golden goose
Hey does someone has the webm of Becca cuming out of HL office?
>How dare people talk about a TV show on Yea Forums
Mallory showed him the video. She never says it was rape though. Just that they were in the room for three hours
Did milk mommy's baby die in the explosion?
In the comics, his clone kills him, so it's fair to say the kid most likely could given the chance and time to grow.
Billy smashed the fetus to a pulp with a lamp in the comic, so yeah, you can.
how can you have a perfect child without a dad?
>His powers only activate when he's in Killlander mode
Is this actually stated in the comic? I seem to recall everyone was confused as fuck as to how Black Noir survived the Plane Hijacking ordeal, since The Deep dropped him when the plane ran him over. If he has no super strength and durability unless he's going to kill the Homelander how did he survive?
I don't know man, maybe you're right. I thought Vought had to activate it in him otherwise it'd just double the risk of a Homelander going omnicidal
this 100%
It would make a lot of sense, but I fucking hate that they made Butch a cuck. Sure, he was the true villain in the end but that was the main twist, before that he was just a cool asshole.
Literally the same thing princess
Why don't you wait for the next season and maybe you'll find out, Zoomie
>8 years ago in fucking prime with random slut vs fetish mommy egging on a good boy
not hard math really
You do know that actors can play characters that are a different nationality than they are, right?
What happened to the shapeshifter? seems like a OP character
either it was black noir laughing at butcher or it was HM, as he said she even came 3 times and all
>She sat in that bench for three hours
What if It was Translucent sitting there with her, either threating her with killing Butcher Boy if he walked away or sweet-talking her into her retirement plan if she raised the kid?
You do know i was referring to the character right retard? He has an Aussie accent, he's playing an Aussie,like I said, you stupid gumby.
I've been reading a lot of comments saying Deep is hot.
>Homelander can’t perform.
Bullshit. He was in control when the premature'd into Stillwell, he was playing up the orphan looking for a mommy so Stillwell felt like she was in complete control of him pretending to be motherly to him. When he gloated to Billy she came three times to him, he wasn't exaggerating his ability.
Homelander is a pathological liar, she was raped and only left to take care of the baby due to being threatened. He wanted to make butcher feel like absolute shit
how many of you have read the comics?
They'll probably work in some kind of growing power mechanic. They get stronger as they get older. Queen Maeve broke her arm stopping a bus when she was in her 20s, but the first scene of the show is her taking an armored car to the face, going straight through the engine block, with no injury.
They sound remotely the same.
that might not be too bad, actually. the black noir-clone duplicity honestly was one of the last great plot twists I've ever seen
I've read pages posted on Yea Forums
IT'S A METAL PROP YOU STUPID BITCH
Why is the art in the later comics so much more appealing than the earlier ones? Did they switch artists?
This
ok princess
Reminder
You'll know next season, you fucking idiot
Simon Pegg's american accent is really distracting
hhhnnnnnnnnnhh
I did things
I'm just mad they won't do Butcher's death the same way
HE LITERALLY DOESN'T REMEMBER SLEEPING WITH HER YOU DOOFUS, IT WAS BLACK NOIR ALL ALONG
Yeah he's going to end up raising the kid and the kid will probably kill superheroes. The guy saying he should have raised Homelander with a family foreshadows.
Who here is ready for The Deep to join up with /ourteam/ next season?
I think the artist just got better
I can see it happening
Also shame we're not getting the Not-Xmen and the Love sausage arcs from the comics
Love Sausage is great. I'd love to see them incorporate him in some way.
You know with the hero genocide at the end of the comic
These lads are probably the top team now.
What why not!?
Did butcher cheat on Becca with Mallory? Mallory said they used to fuck a lot
They didn't meet until after Becca disappeared.
They deserve it too for being the only thing close to actual heroes. Since they're changing things up, I'd like to see The Deep join up with them, and instead of being a psycho like Mal-Chemical, I'd like to see him try and make the team famous/well-known through doing actual superhero work and stuff. Could make for a fun and different style compared to the rest of the show.
Why didnt they cast simon pegg at huey? Looks the same in le epic comic
Way better apparently. Good for him, the late art looks like Steve Dillon but not shit
>She almost certainly fucked homelander consensually but then had massive regrets about it afterwards.
So she WAS raped then.
Pegg thought he was too old for it.
I want the deep to join, befriend them and have mal-chemical join. And for the deep to save his new friends even if he gets put on a stretcher and in the ER for the rest of the series besides cameos. I just want him to find actual friends
I do not find this art style compelling at all.
I can appreciate the work for its other merits with respect to story telling, world building, characterization, etc but not the art style
I understand the intent is probably a throw back to the Silver Age of comics, but I feel on a technical level it comes up short
Sounds like kino to me.
Just seeing him crying when he wakes up and sees a homemade get well soon card set behind all the expensive “pity” and “obligation” gifts by his “old friends”, just a little crappy card tucked in the back with superduper’s scrawled signatures. If the episode ended like that it’d be perfect in my eyes.
This is far more interesting than sassy sensitive black woman crying about shit
T. Black man
I mean it’s more butcher murders his ex wife, and threatens his daughter twice for being a whore who treats mm like shit.
Just fucking crushes her mother in front of her when she didn’t get the memo at the start. Which is what gets MM mad as fuck
>so half the audience can’t bring themselves to like him no matter what he does
even leddit likes the deep
implying you can tell >no to mr I can kill anything in the planet
at the party she was very uncomfortable with notsuperman
Probably she was kidnapped as a test subject but decided to stay with the kid because> my son
also, the massage of this show is >corporations are pure evil so, anything other than cartoonish evil is probably not what happened
There’s several artists that worked on the series. The guy who drew that is one of the better ones. A bit of same face, but it’s a lot better than the “clearly traced image of an actor” that was prevalent in the early stuff.
This artist and Ennis later teamed up on a James Bond parody called Jimmy’s Bastards, it’s real good.
>With the way women on this show are portrayed
Every show and movie now
Why did Starlight return to Hugh? Is this how love works in real life?
I really hope they can bring Butcher back from this, his final arc in the comic is fantastic, but it’d be one hell of a stretch for him to do it now.
>most powerful man on earth, potentially three hours of sex
>only three orgasms
>homelander cant last 15 seconds with a decrepit old hag
>literally acts like a baby sexually
>"yeah man i banged your wife for hours she came 3 times"
Probably. Homelander never cared or liked it because he was jealous.
did the writers not read the comics?
I kek'd a little bit.
The story is a bit different in the show.
this, i could do three orgasm in one sesh easy. and im not even black
The Boys have super powers in the comic
>sesh
why boner
whats his name
Movie called The Mask
he came in 3 seconds because stillwell was his weakness, some random woman probably doesn't do much for him
Muh comics is the most brainless take imaginable. The producers recognized that Starr as Homelander is lighting in a bottle, so they rewrote the story to give him a part that's better than the book's one-dimensional sadist.
Aside from fancy shit like Mad Men and Twin Peaks, this show was as good as TV gets these days. There is no reason to think that the creative team won't continue to deliver, especially if it's just going to be 8 episodes per year.
Homelander killing Stillwell so casually actually kind of shocked me. Felt borderline out of character for someone who seemed incredibly obsessed with her.
>set up a funny, autistic fuckup who’s likable and charming
but they set him up as a douchebag rapist from his first scene...then came the rest
I thought Black Noir was Seth Rogan
Homelander told to butcher that he fucked his wife. I'm pretty sure if it was rape he would say it just to make butcher mad
I doubt they went straight to fucking. More than likely they talked about work+random things for two+ hours and they only had sex the last 15 minutes or so.
So the next episode will be the Truman show?
That's the story Butcher probably already thinks, if he found out it was consensual he would go nuclear.
becca was so fucking hot in final destination 4
Nice bruh. Pics of dat ass?
The whole show is a bit about your worthless Yea Forums mindset. I guess you missed the point.
He was clearly bullshitting to piss off Butcher, he was shown to be a ten second man before with Stillwell
making me wonder if the comic twist with Noir is still on for the show
Whoa nice call mate
Yeah. First breakup never sticks.
>Comic boys
>Excessive use of "Fuck" in unnecessary context
>Pissing and shitting whenever Ennis thinks it's funny
>Crude sex scenes jammed in with the grace of a feral hog
>Villains that are one dimensionally evil
>People being racist/homophobic even though the original thing being parodied isn't
Anyone else a bit happy that they changed a lot of the Boys from the comics? It was a fun setting but a badly written comic.
The comic has a good premise with terrible execution. There are some highs, but it's mostly just okay. Many of the show changes have been for the better.
We'll see how long the show lasts though. I don't think it's a premise that can last forever, and dudeweedlmao being attached to a project is never a good sign.
This, competent manchild homelander is much better than retarded manchild homelander.
tfw I only just now realized that he's Eomer.
Based Uncle Ruckus
>one-dimensional sadist
Why do you morons keep saying this stupid shit? Homelander wasn't a sadist. If anything, he was just a normal guy. He turned duchebag by having godlike powers and being constantly surrounded by enablers, but all things considered that's a pretty mild outcome.
You have edgier characters in mainstream marvel/DC comics. Fuck, Wolverine is a worse person than comic-Homelander and dude's a household name he's so inexplicably adorable in spite of it.
Which, if anything, proves the point of the comic. You morons don't care about the characters of people, you just mindlessly adhere to what you think you're supposed to believe, just like the idiot masses being mocked by the comic. Tell you guy's a hero, you think he's a hero. Tell you guy's a sadist, you think he's a sadist.
The joke's on you and you don't even get it.
People seem to forget about the doppelganger which they could have easily blackmailed Becca with ruined her career and her marriage.
>Everyone saying the Deep is a giant rapist asshole before I watched the series
>He just came off as an honestly confused dudebro that someone who said she idolized his WOULDNT want to suck his dick
Either they really fucked the execution of that scene or Im just too thick skinned.
>People being racist/homophobic even though the original thing being parodied isn't
The joke on Tek Knight and Swingwing being homophobic is Fredric Wertham calling Batman and Robin gay lovers in Seduction of the Innocent, which caused the creation of the Comics Code and the mass censorship of comics in the 50's. Sometimes things in the Boys was just jokes on things happening in comics, like the whole resurrection thing.
>innocent or a victim of circumstance
Popclaw, Starlight's mom, Sitwell, the woman that fingerbanged The Deep's gills are all cunts.
don't care if it's the 500th, this is the first time after finishing the series that I've seen the thread so you can fuck the fuck off slave.
Not rape - she had a choice.
The Deep was just the punching bag who took it out on the next weakest link because you live what you learn, you just don't know it yet at the start of the show.
so, is black noir just a stronger homelander? cuz i feel they would just fuck up the world with their fighting if they had equal power.
i did and the show is fine but the changes are odd in some cases like hughie being american instead of british like butcher it made the "you are like a brother to me" thing make more sense
do you really think a supe needs consent?
when you have the kind of power, everyone literally is your bitch
homelander is a handsome lad
its funny that hughie's dad is literally the comic book version of hughie
yeah that is a pretty good choice shame it wasn't adapted sooner so he could play Hughie even now i think it would still work
So what you're saying is . . . Based?
The comic was shitty in this aspect as they didn't really show what happened, but I think the implication is that Homelander fucked up BN something fierce, leaving him in that practically half-dead crippled state, allowing Butcher to just walk up and crowbar his exposed brains.
She willingly got into that hotel room with him. You're telling me she didn't do that with the intent of having sex?
I like how this show it's quite a redpill on women. What would be nice in season 2 would be Butcher butchering his wife and her son, but why wuld Homelander let him? This final scene is exactly like Berserk when he is saved from the eclipse by the skull knight and wakes up in garden. I don't think it's a coincidence
But most of that stuff is (edgy) shit.
It's pretty sad that The Boys is the best representation we've had yet of what Superman is capable of when he is evil. That scene of him slaughtering those terrorist was excellent because it showed what just how devastating his powers are to the human body.