NO YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THE PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE INTO MY HOUSE, INTO MY BED, INTO MY STREAMS, INTO MY STREETS...

exodus never happened it is just jew propaganda to make egypt look bad.

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>This thread, I have nothing else to give, but a bump that you may live, I pray we Sneed again, if He will DELIVER US

Because God hardened the Pharoahs heart on purpose to make him a spiritual jobber and a sacrifice for the benefit of His Chosen Isrealites. The Bible expressly states God came in and made Pharoah act that way so Moses could beat him and free his people

You are very bright user.

>look up Bible passage on package of bread
>its a recipe for that bread
Thanks Moses!

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They happened after Moses talked to the pharao. Plus God kinda hardened the pharao's heart when he talked to Moses

this meme is getting based

Why are all God's chosen people enemies always vanquished?
mmmm

Why did he not soften the pharaos heart? It would have saved thousands of lifes

Why didn't Moses just negotiate a deal to have Rameses release the slaves and have them replaced with a paid workforce within five years so that the economy wouldn't collapse? Why didn't Moses have a plan for migrating with half a million slaves across a thousand miles of desert?

you posted this shit 2 hours ago and it got archived
why are you so desperate for attention?

A lot of what's in the Bible is metaphorical.

FUCK GOSHEN AND FUCK JEWS, MOSES IS A FUCKING BITCH, OR MAY HIS INFERIOR HEBREW (((GOD))) SLOWLY CASTRATE ME WITH A HOT IRON AND AN ICE CREAM SCOOP, SKEWER ME THROUGH THE ANUS AND REMOVE MY TEETH AND NAILS SLOWLY ONE BY ONE

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>Passing up an opportunity to kill africans
Not even god can say no to that.

Why was God so evil bros? He killed millions of innocent first born males

seethe gaygyptian

to save billions

Because God is Jewish

You mean getting Bastet

rent free

"Saving lives" is a pretty silly concept for someone who is immortal and have created the etternal life after death

there is no punishment too severe for the hubris of empire

>non-christians
>innocent
Sent these heathens right to hell I hope.

>saving lives
>not saving souls
Lol

it was real, in their minds

moses should sue this bread company for stealing his IP

cope egyptcel

Just fucking imagine. 'I leave you motherfuckers alone for a few weeks and this is what happens?' Definitely a loooong way to the before these people get to Messiah stock

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>moses found the golden cow
OH NO NO NO PAGANBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

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So he is basically a 12 year old playing with ants?

FUCK PROPHETS AND FUCK COMMANDMENTS
[JEWS WERE EXILED FOR THIS POST]

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OH NO NO NO NO IT WAS JUST A JOKE GOD
AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH SAVE US AARON

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Didn't the Epstein island had golden statues of cows?

they worship moloch it is known

op enjoy your ip range ban

Why wouldn't they share their slushies?

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Well no because eventually you get tired of ants and just wreck them all. It has more to do with how we stupidly see death as a worst possible thing that can happen to us, so ability to take lives in a whim can be an useful tool in the hands of the God, in order to convey important messages to stupid humans.

if thats how your malignant, childish mind chooses to frame things, though i dont quite understand why you think you created all of those ants or how you know they will have eternal life because of you?

Seems pretty good

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ALL THAT I SEE
ABSOLUTE HORRUH

If holy texts were partially cookbooks I think we'd have a better relationship with religion

Is that a penis on his forehead?

That's a pretty silly comparison that has nothing to do with what he said.

Did the 12 year old create the ants?
Does the 12 year old have complete knowledge of what happens to ants after they die?

The Exodus story is a late interpolation and didn't literally happen. It was an invention inserted during the 6th century BCE exilic period in Babylon. Like most of the "history" in the Bible, it wasn't supposed to be viewed in the same way we view history today.
Recent scholarship has revealed that there were israelites in Egypt though.

I apologize for my childishness but please tell me how do you know that some retarded random kike demon created this universe?

>Recent scholarship has revealed that there were israelites in Egypt though.
were they this hot?

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No, but i assume the almighty kike demon and his talking snake did.

>wasnt supposed to be viewed in the same way history is today
Um no sweetie every word in the bible is a direct command to Christians and every society depicted in it is the religion's ideal utopia. The bible literally tells christians to murder kids with bears and to get molested, you fascist

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He answered your basic question about Christian cosmology, and now youre turning around and assuming he's trying to convert you? There you go playing the victim again...

>murder kids with bears
that's my utopia

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> a jewess would never be a hetaira
based, goy bitches on suicide watch

Who is playing the victim here?

Daily reminder that you dont have to covert to Christianity in order to learn the mechanics of the religion. People like to make up inaccurate quips about the bible, and then when someome explains how the bible handles their question, they think they're being told they're going to Hell

>hebrews immigrate to egypt
>wtf we have to work for a living? oy vey vat a holocaust!
>yahweh tells moses to tell pharaoh to let them go
>yahweh prevents pharaoh from doing this, thus sabotaging his own people
>omg he's literally hitler even though it's our own god who makes him act this way
>yahweh begins to mass murder egyptian babies to punish pharaoh for not doing what he himself is preventing him from doing
>hebrews are finally allowed to fuck off to canaan where they proceed to massacre the people already living there because they have the wrong religion
>yahweh and the hebrews are the good guys in this
>this is the founding myth of judeo-christian religiosity
>this is considered to make perfect sense and to be morally sound

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>But for this purpose I have raised you up, to show you my power, so that my name may be proclaimed in all the earth.

All he did was answer your question about the book, and now you're acting like his motivation is conversion. Idk doesnt matter

>judging god based on morality
name one religion where this is doable

>Recent scholarship has revealed that there were israelites in Egypt though

that really depends on what you mean by "Israelites". there is one single mention of a tribe called Israel by Pharaoh Merenptah who lists them among a bunch of other ethnicities in the Levant that he wiped out, so that's Israel in Israel, not in Egypt.

then there are Aramaic papyri of Jewish settlers living in southern Egypt many centuries later in the 5th century BC. and even at this much later period, these "Jews" were worshipping several gods in addition to Yahweh. Monotheistic "Jews" in the modern sense and as imagined by the Old Testament are a total anachronism for ancient Egypt.

>but but but its not a diplomatic ideology designed for the protection and universal support of all people!
Its a declaration of divine right and a grovel-symbol designed to cast one singular tribe as acquitted of all empire-building behavior. Get with the program retard

Why is he white?

it's not only not that, it's just pure fucking evil

yikes

Kill yourself relativist

No really, someone will be like 'oh yeah lol how can God be God and also Jesus huh?' and then someone is like 'they have this concept of the holy trinity' then the atheist gets triggered for feeling lectured and assumes religion has arrived to collect him

Eh, its something to do. Either that or build giant stone triangles to try and live forever

Again,he could have shown his power the peaceful way

Oh fuck, that was one of my favourites

So God is an asshole?

>build giant stone triangles to try and live forever

only a handful of kings did that and quickly stopped that agenda around 2400 BC

Triangles>Crosses

Moses was a non-Christian.

>how can God be God and also Jesus huh
They would have a point.
>concept of the holy trinity
Neither an explanation nor an argument

LET

Yeah He literally doesn't care about destroying loves He created. He's, like, super smart

Pharaoh did nothing wrong, Jewish enslavement in Egypt is a myth.

Its literally the answer for how the religion works. A competent atheist should know that and just start by saying the trinity is a bunk cover-up instead of pretending to ask about the religion

>LET MY PEOPLE GO

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YOU'RE PLAYING WITH THE BIG GOYS NOW!

how could they do this to my Ramses

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>he wasnt baptised as a child in a christian church
Cringe

What about the Trinity is different than the Sephirot or any other model for the strucutre and appearances of a Monotheistic God? Its a religion, its rational they would be concerned with these things, amd given the subject matter its a completely fair solution

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What was Moses' tax policy?

fucking kek

reminder that egyptians were aryan

you are

So how about those Egyptian mages who turned their rods to snakes?

lol

I guess that explains why he can't make direct eye contact when he speaks to prophets.

Creating men that are doomed to eternal suffering is plain cruel. inb4 freewill like it exists and that God doesn't know your decisions before you make them.

>NO YOU CAN'T JUST SEND THE PESTILENCE AND PLAGUE INTO MY HOUSE, INTO MY BED, INTO MY STREAMS, INTO MY STREETS, INTO MY DRINK, INTO MY BREAD, UPON MY CATTLE, ON MY SHEEP, UPON MY OXEN IN MY FIELD, INTO MY DREAMS, INTO MY SLEEP UNTIL I BREAK UNTIL I YIELD
>Why yes, of course I'd like pestilence and plague in my house, in my bed, in my streams, in my streets, in my drink, in my bread, upon my cattle, upon my sheep, upon my oxen, in my dreams, in my sleep until I break until I yield.

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>destroying loves He created
Proof that fedoras are very smart.

source?

Because it's simply Jewish propaganda to cope with the fact that Egypt had stronger gods.

based PoE poster

Whoa, the Bible sure was ahead of it's time.

Why didn’t the Egyptian gods do anything?

>Why didn't God just show up in front of the pharao
Because the pharaoh wasn't a chosen one, God will only sometimes show himself to his chosen ones in order to do them a solid and talk to them on their level but that's about it. He's very human in that way, we humans will pick our pets out of trillions of animals solely based on looks while also discarding the other ones because "ewww they're not cute."

>saving lives
user, what's the point of life? According to the Bible we exist solely for the enjoyment of God and if God no longer desires your worship then saving you is literary meaningless since your life no longer has any worth, Christianity it's a very nihilistic religion to be honest.

God does desire your worship and wants you to repent. The only time he'll forsake you is if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit.

Finally this meme has taken off

He forsook those Egyptian solders though, you know the ones who died drowning.

What did Ezekiel mean by this?

Why didn't Moses just read Art of the Deal?

Yeah and he was in Sheol until Jesus showed up and rescued everyone.

you're forgetting the part where the jews bitch and moan to God for making them walk to their promised land and wish for the old days of Egypt, and God curses them to wander for 40 years in the desert fighting and killing other sand people until their children end up where they were supposed to go in the first place and settle down

He also destroyed the sodomites.

moses: bruh

kek

Kek

They didn't care

I'm cool with that though, if you're literary a rape village then you should probably get nuked.

>guy carrying the arc of the covenant accidentally brushes his shoulder against it
>God personally smites him

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just don't get raped what's the problem

>why yes I am the Christ, Son of the livimg God, how could you tell?

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Based and rapepilled.

>God does desire your worship and wants you to repent. The only time he'll forsake you is if you blaspheme the Holy Spirit.
The Holy Spirit is a doo doo head.

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oh my

That doesn't make any sense. Why can I blaspheme Christ/God but not the Holy Spirit?

itt all these christcucks

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any quotes about circumcision?

>The Holy Spirit is a doo doo head.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if you were sent to hell for eternity and that was the reason?

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If this is enough to send someone to hell for eternity, then the Holy Spirit really IS a doo doo head.

trisagionseraph.tripod.com/Texts/Plotinus5.html

My puter got fried and I lost all my shit, anyone have the Pontius Pilot comic of the Cia scene? Figure this is as good a place as any to ask.

Cruel is a meme i made up to escape slavery

Islam is the only true religion. Rebuke christcuckery and Jewry before it’s too late kaffir.

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit entails a lot more than just insulting the Holy Spirit. You have to be absolutely certain of God's existence and still speak against him. Manipulating the people into believing his miracles are the work of the devil. Basically what the pharisees did.

Damn, this has my curiosity. Hows it taste?

>God hardens the pharohs heart ensuring he doesnt let the jews leave
>God then kills countless babies, oxen, frogs even though he is the one who hardened his heart
What the fuck is gods problem?

>stop being heretics reeee
That doesn't address the connundrum of a supposed benevolent God opting to damn people.

Pathetic. Take some responsibility for once in your life.

Always imagined that God in his most physical form would kill humans. That's why he communicates through shit like bushes and specia areas like Sinai. The first time Moses saw the bush he didn't believe it. The Pharaoh would've acted the same only he'd always close his eyes to the signs.

How is benevolence and condemnation mutually exclusive?

>"uh ugh uh G-God kills people!!!"
>"desu w-why doesn't God save people???"
>"nothing matters MAAAAN but I can't stop sucking satan's cock for some reason LOL XD redditors XDXDXD"
Look at these brainlet fedoras, imagine them trying to judge the creator of the entire universe when they literary have no morals because they believe that morality it's all subjective.

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It seems like God is afraid of being mistaken for a demon. Interesting.

You're a little too late. I scuttled that argument an hr ago.

Gonna cry about it Egyptcuck?

morality is subjective

Because creating something with the intent for it to suffer eternally is not by any definition benevolent, user.

>St. Peter looking over your file
>Ooh sorry bro rules are rules *pulls the lever*

im helping

>ITT: Butthurt JIDF shills

Abrahimic mythos was always hilariously stupid.

not as bad as other religions

>Moral is subjective
Go back to 101 ethics kiddo

Is it godly to dodge questions like they’re ovens

Eternal suffering was never God's intent. He just makes you, and if you forget Him then you get lost. That's all

This

I can smell you

Only if you believe the Holy Spirit is demonic.

The exoteric variant? Certainly. It's designed as such to keep people stupid as well.

What people don't realize is there is an esoteric variant which is rooted in naturalism, stemming from the understandings of the ancient occult mystery schools. The Pope is also the high priest of the Babylonian Mystery school.

Do you want to learn more?

>teleports behind you
>slits your throat
>"nothing personal kiddo... morality is subjective"
This is your worldview.

YHWH isn't actually God

God is mysterious and demand love without proof, worm

"God" isn't actually God.

All of those books are allegorical. Always have been, always will be. Knowledge and understanding (cognitive thinking and correlative thinking also known as understanding symbols) is REQUIRED to properly understand those texts.

God is knowledge, for it leads to harmony and utopia.

why did God stop talking to people after the old testament days. he just kinda fucked off.

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holy and based

Nice selfie
If I needed a sky daddy to make me empathize with other human beings I’d be autistic, like you

Because the books aren't literal, and the people who consider them as such can't think properly.

The bible is allegory to occult the real knowledge.

Just fucking get the big picture and do it without corruption. Why is it so hard for you people? 'Waah waah its not reaaaaal, theyre pedophiles, theyre corrupt, they make people bigots!' Just fucking educate yourself on the simple spiritual subject matter and allow your understanding to shine through, instead of deliberately misreading the text to try and slam a fanbase you dont like. Quit hypocritcally asserting the authority of church leaders by insisting their way is the only religion

>In the beginning, Elohim created heavens and the earth
wtf I thought there was just one god? Who the fuck wrote this shit

>Whataboutism
No thanks I'm Jewish

This. God is a dream model of cosmic government. Fundamentalist Atheists are mundane followers who castrate their own understanding as revenge for Sunday school

Based enlightened brother.

Continue heading east, friend.

Unfortunately it's not that easy, brother.

They have been bombarded with symbols and imagery which lead them to think a certain way, stopped them from being able to think properly. Religion, in any form, is a brain virus which shuts down certain neural pathways.

Why did God try to murder Moses for no apparent reason bros?

>On the way, at a place where they spent the night, the LORD met him and tried to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint and cut off her son's foreskin, and touched his feet with it, and said, "Truly you are a bridegroom of blood to me!" So he let him alone. It was then she said, "A bridegroom of blood by circumcision."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipporah_at_the_inn

what verse does it say that he did?

>But the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the LORD had said to Moses.

biblehub.com/exodus/9-12.htm

wait why would God do that?

>trusting organized religion to safeguard human life

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That is a very unique interpretation of both scripture and omniscience. And by unique I mean incorrect.

Do you think Christianity is the exception when it comes to the exo/eso dichotomy of knowledge?

Do you think the religion of Saturn, "Judaism", is "pure" in it's exoteric form? There is a reason Rabiddic Judaism sprout up around the same time as "Christianity."

I want to say I agree with you.

Can you unpack what you mean by "dream model of cosmic government?"

Dude, just don't question God or the implications in regards to free will of all this

> The Lord said to Moses, “When you return to Egypt, see that you perform before Pharaoh all the wonders I have given you the power to do. But I will harden his heart so that he will not let the people go.

biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 4:21&version=NIV

I understand why people have trouble, its just sich a ridiculous corruption and a forced grovel-meme that even the rebels refuse to argue a more pure form! Just try reading anybody's Holy Book without presuming about some authoritarian priest is reading over your shoulder, you may find a primitive and naturalistic attempt at enlightment and some surprisngly accurate interpretations go the world's forces

The bible is literal and everything in it happened as written. Yes, there was an actual talking snake in the garden of eden.

God doesn't have to justify his actions to man.

Jesus is the Christ and Son of the Living God.

If any of this upsets you, you just need to stop being such a bitch and get over it.

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i still don't get it why would God deliberately harden the Pharaohs heart?

Kira did a pretty good job of it.

Because its an independence/oppression fable designed to grant divine right in nomads to found and maintain a nation

If you can't see how this is such a blatant fucking allegory about human conscience in the face of the majesty of the human being then you are a FUCKING IDIOT. Learn to fucking think. Goddamnit.

Continue walking the middle path brother. It's refreshing to know there are fellow light wielders on this chinese basket weaving forum.

Do anything for what? To prevent the collapse of paganism? It's because they grew decadent and weak, and Yahweh was cunning, strong, ruthless, and very determined.

Who says he doesn't? If I told you that God talked to me once when I was a teen you'd just call me crazy, in other words no matter what anyone says you'll be stuck in your ways.

foreskins?

Because free will does not exist according to the bible

>Therefore God has mercy on whom He wants to have mercy,and He hardens whom He wants to harden .One of you will say to me, “Then why does God still find fault? For who can resist His will?

>But who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? "Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'"

Yes, lets trust human government instead.

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hahaha how is that fair? He fucks Pharoah up just so moses can beat him

Its called growing a spine and leading your own human growth projects like the rest of the world's adults, you groveling stooge

Cool it with the anti-Semitic remarks

God has many names, similar to Chadwardenn.

i was raised in a fundamental christian home no one has ever pointed this out to me and i wonder why

And they didn't do anything to prevent Exodus and the Plagues because the former is beyond their interest, and the latter is Jewish propaganda.

Its a story for Hebrews not Egyptians. The wrote that God made Pharoah job so they could demonstrate the wages of disrespect towards God

He was a mary sue

If growing a spine costs hundreds of millions of human lives like the past WWs, I think I'd rather return to religion my friend.

Based and enlightenment pilled.

>"""hubris of empire"""
>goes to make every family by -random jew choosing- to suffer with a loss of a child
you can't justify this no matter what sort of moralfaggotry you employ

>God deliberately hardens the Pharaohs heart and causes him to refuse Moses
>Kills every first born in Egypt
>Could just as easily make Pharaoh let the Israelites go the first time and save innocent babies lives

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God is the ruler and creator of the universe, as a concept its an attempt to love under the (increasingly true) belief that the universe accords ro very specific laws and forces that behave rationally and logically. In the Orthodox faith they specifically study Christ the Logos, the overarching logic that binds all things. God is an expression that the universe is ruled by logic, as man is.

Child's understanding of history AND fucking language.

Do you think the concept of "Religion" requires a COSMIC theological model and hierarchy? Religion simply means authority justified through dogma. Period. Doesn't matter if it's an Astro-Theological being or a human being.

>Krishnamurti also maintained that the reason people came to him (and to gurus) was to find solutions for their everyday real problems, and/or for solutions to a fabricated problem, namely, the search for spirituality and enlightenment. He insisted that this search is caused by the cultural environment, which demands conformity of individuals as it simultaneously places within them the desire to be special – the achievement of enlightenment thus viewed as a crowning expression of an individual's "specialness" and uniqueness. Consequently, the desire for enlightenment is exploited by gurus, spiritual teachers, and other "sellers of shoddy goods", who pretend to offer various ways to reach that goal. According to Krishnamurti, all these facilitators never deliver, and cannot ever deliver, since the goal itself (i.e. enlightenment), is unreachable.

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>DUDE GOD TOTALLY EXISTS! LET ME GIVE YOU YET ANOTHER ITERATION OF MENTAL GYMNASTICS THAT ARE BASED ON ASSUMPTIONS THAT I MADE UP TO PROVE IT! NNNNOOOOOOOOO WHY WON’T YOU LISTEN TO MY CIRCULAR REASONING?! WTF!!!

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