"here's your lightsabre bro, don't ask how I got it, and dont't worry about those mental images you got from touching it...that's just how the force works all of a sudden"
>"oh and i know all about the force and the jedi..just dont ask who I am."
"ok i'll see you in the next film"
>that's a story for another time
Name a worse single line in cinema history
JJ doesnt get SW and the gaggle of women running the francise are still ruining it . JJ should stick to ET ripoffs.
>Rose.....bud.....
Genisys. At least on par with it.
>asks the Terminator about how it got sent back to protect Sarah
>"Those files have been erased."
>pulls it out of a literal mystery box
goddamn it
why is it important how she got it? do you want every single thing to be expanded upon so the movie's 4 hours long?
Look at the Death Star plans in the first one, all they needed to say was that rebel spies beamed them to Leia's ship. It isn't just that it got explained though, it's that spies stealing plans makes sense. That's what spies do, espionage. The lightsaber gets no explanation, but beyond that we know it fell down into the depths of Cloud City. When Luke fell down there automated systems tried to drop him out the bottom. So we have no single sentence explanation, and it's a situation that requires more work than something simple like, "Spies spy, makes sense."
Clearly.
Why did they bring it back at all?
>don't ask how I got it
She probably bought it from someone who found it.
>and dont't worry about those mental images you got from touching it
Okay, I wont't.
>that's just how the force works all of a sudden
The Force gives people visions. That's a thing that's been in the movies since Empire Strikes Back at the very least.
Yes
>le detached turn your brain off face
I know it's become trendy to shit on movies that over-explain things at the expense of the plot, but you can still have a modicum of contextualization without breaking the bank, you know. Once upon a time this might even be considered "world-building." Don't make excuses for JJ's lazy writing.
I don’t know what was more pointless, this or Rey’s vision.
I hate JJ
I hate that fucking hack so fucking much
Maz Kanata was the moment I knew TFA was shit. I was with the movie up until that point, but after she pulled that line out of her wrinkly orange ass, I knew the sequels were fucked.
It's been years but the hate doesn't leave me.
Fuck Maz Kanata
Fuk the Sequels
Fuck Jew Jew Abrahms
Fuck Disney
All they had to do was make it Luke's green lightsaber from RotJ.
That's all, and then half of the problems would be fixed.
Star Wars has always been full of things that weren't fully explained. That's always been half the fun of the series, that they just drop something like "Kessel run" without taking any time to explain it because people within that cinematic universe understands what it means -- this makes the movies feel more "alive." Hell, going back to Anakin's lightsaber, it's never explained in A New Hope how Kenobi got it. In fact, Lucas nearly forgot that detail, and had to go back and add it into Revenge of the Sith when someone brought it up (I think they actually had to do reshoots for it). Anyways, there's no lazy writing here, just angry people with axes to grind and nits to pick.
>lightsaber sitting in a physical "mystery box" in the back of that bar
*slow clap*
Well done, JJ!
nah, I'm not angry. I'm not a detail sperg either, but what you said doesn't hold up. the fun of star wars is in the intuitive nature of the story. It's a fairytale. Our brains already know the answer to questions like "what is the Force" because it's something that works just fine when everyone has their own private answer. That's called fun and magic and quasi-religiosity. TFH is not fun nor magical. The questions don't add to the mystery and mythos, they detract from it. The answer to 'how'd the lightsaber get there' doesn't work if everyone has their own personal answer. It's just an annoying question that pops into your head that you have to talk yourself out of thinking about.
In the OT, the unanswered or unanswerable questions tend to add to the atmosphere and universe, whereas JJ's retarded mystery boxes take away from it. One series was made by a guy who understood how to appeal to humans' sense of humanness and one was made by a guy who hammers the singlenote key of 'wonder' over and over in a monotonous, boring series. HTH.
but then we can't flash back to as many things from the original trilogy
it was probably also done for the Kylo motivation of wanting Vader's original saber, because they hadn't thought up Jake's attempt on Kylo's life yet which would make the green saber just as much of a target for Kylo's emotions
I wish Luke got visions of his dad killing children when Obi-wan first handed him the lightsaber.
I agree. It's only a lightsaber and could've easily gotten picked up by someone then went through many owners over the years until Maz got her hands on it. I don't give a shit about where it went or how it got there. I don't need a backstory for this and it's about as relevant as C3PO getting his red arm. However, what I would like to see instead is how Luke made his own lightsaber, or even Kylo Ren building his own one and searching for the lightsaber crystal for it?
Although...
>A good story, for another time.
was an awful line that proved that JJ is a hack and just wanted to trick idiots into thinking they were going to explain it in the future because he never had a backstory for it in the first place.
Fuck off with that nonesense. ANH gave you exactly what you needed to know. No major plot points are obscured for larks. You don't need to know what a Kessel Run is. All you need to know is that the Millennium Falcon is fast, and it tells you that. How did Obi-Wan get Anakin's sword? Doesn't really matter. He's an old friend. He's implied to have been near him when he died. It all works. What doesn't work is taking something you saw fall into a gas giant two movies ago, locking it in a chest in a random bar, and saying "we'll explain later". I also shouldn't have to explain that writing the seventh part of a story is different to writing the first part of a story.
I know Star Wars is loose on the science thing, but generally you're not just going to pick something up out of a gas giant.
>Doesn't really matter
Just turn your brain off bro
Sure thing, bud. News Flash: SW has always been a flashy spectacle with a shallow story.
>they just drop something like "Kessel run" without taking any time to explain it
The purpose of that was to explain that the Millenium Falcon was a fast ship, just in "futuristic lingo". While nonsensical, it still translated to the audience "This ship is fast."
As for Anakin's lightsaber, it was perfectly fair to assume it was simply passed on to Obi-wan since they were explicitly old friends. And later on we DID see exactly how it happen in the prequel. Lucas nearly forgetting just means he was clumsy, and he still had the decency to correct it.
What purpose does Maz's lack of explanation serve? Nothing. She wasn't an old friend of Luke or had any relation to anyone at the time of the OT, it's just a confusing and lazy way to get a nostalgic prop into the story.