Was the Lincoln letter real?

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Every story Warren said was a lie he said in order to stay alive or do whatever he wanted. 1. Lincoln letter: to gain respect and admiration from people (esp. whites). 2. Blowjob story: to kill the old racist general 3. Mexican lie: in order to single out Marco and kill him

But would...what?

Yeah my OP post was half serious, it's obviously fake. But I just now realized you're right about the Mexican thing, I didn't know he was lying when I watched the film.

Would you JUST DO IT

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Yes. He really didn't know anything about the General's son except he went missing and the timeframe he went missing. Notice the only person to know what he's actually doing is Mannix, saying he just wants him to go for his gun so he can kill a Confederate General, but a very rude Confederate General (We'd later learn this rudeness was because he was in compliance with all the Gang as a hostage)

Mannox and Warren are the only two people who really end up knowing eachother at the end of it all, and since they know how eachother think. They end up taking a liking for one another.

You know how Reservoir Dogs ends on a lie that destroys a friendship as they both lay bleeding and dying? Well in this it's the opposite, they both lie dying and bleeding, but they unify and respect eachother as friends as they die, because he looks at his Lincoln letter finally and admires his lie ("That's a nice touch...") and can understand how it would fool people, so earlier at the table when he's making fun of him for being a black person with such an outrageous lie, he realizes given the right context, and right moment, he could really see how anyone would fall for that story.

Very cool.

Most probably. It's an absurd story.

no shit, he was just trying to get the man to pull his gun on him

Mr. President?

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Yeah. He also made up Minnie not allowing Dogs or Mexicans in to get a reaction out of Senor Bob as evidenced by the fact she greets Senor Bob kindly in the flashback.

Was his book the one that Leo reads?

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I don't care what you faggots say. This movie was pure kino the more I think about it.

I thought the one scene where Michael Madsen pulls out his junk and starts dancing around was really weird. And I don't think it belonged in a western. He just dancing all naked in Cowboy Boots while Samuel Jackson just watched in his chair like Arnold in True Lies. I get it. It was a great scene but still

whatever you want to believe, but most people dont realise the concepts and they just fly over their heads. I was on set for this scene and can assure you this was a prop for the movie, it wasn't real, as for the blowjob scene i can't say much only that some producers weren't happy.

Disney must've launched a subtle smear campaign against this film after Tarantino called them out on their shit. (though I forget what exactly)

I realize the concepts. The concepts of how real it is and maybe it's like a comic someone is reading while having some explosive shitty diarrea in Once Upon a Time In Hollywood, I heard the Charlie Manson just dancing around in naked Cowboy Boots is a very outrageous scene. And Samuel Jackson watches him sitting in a chair like Arnold in True Lies.

listen lad the demons can tell you this or tell you that but maybe it can be true but im telling you that its not

Yep. That's how his character's personality is - very cunning yet deceitful. All Tarantino characters have specific formulas. Once you get the formula figured out, you know exactly what the character will or will not do.

Yeah i watched it again recently it was much better than i remembered

No, pretty much everything Marquis said was bullshit to keep everyone off balance.
While Maddox was telling the truth about everything.

Exactly this bro.

I don't know about that. There's some specifically repeated dialogue in the roadshow/extended cuts about men going after the Major looking for their fortune that the General says to Mannix while the Major is still in the barn, as well as a reaction when he finds out who the Major is that seems to imply that he knows that's where his son went. Seems likely that the Major did in fact kill his son, even if the elaborate blowjob story was probably just to wind him up.

Like Mannix, he just knows who he is. As a black Officer in the Union Army turned bounty hunter, it would behoove him to know who's who.

All he knows about the General is his reputation proceeds him, and we know he knows the General, so he could already know the General's had a son who went missing.

His reaction to the Major is more to indicate to the Hostage-Takers that he's willing to play the role and lie for his own benefit.

When things calm down and the Hostage-Takers aren't immediately slaughtering everyone, he calms down and even welcomes Major Warren to join him for a bowl of food. He's way too relaxed around Major Warren, making small talk when Warren sits down for him to know who he is. The desperation on his face "You didn't know my son?" hints he doesn't really know much about Major Warren when thinking about going for the gun.

Disney pushed the star wars vii premiere to coincide with h8ful 8's premiere in some theaters, tarantula got mad because he thought this was unfair competition or whatever

>Them peckerwoods left their homes and their families and came to this snowy mountain, looking for me and fortune. None of them found fortune. The ones ain't no one heard of no more found me.
>He took off for the hills of Wyoming to make his fortune. Never to be heard from again.
The word choice is pretty deliberate there imo

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HA HA RACISM SO FUNNY!!!!!

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE ITS RUINED PEOPLE'S LIVES OR ANYTHING

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE SUFFERED, AND STILL SUFFER EVERY SINGLE DAY OF THIER LIVES

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE SLAVERY, OR APARTHEID, OR THE KKK WERE ABHORRANT TO ANYONE WITH EVEN THE SLIGHTEST SENSE OF DECENCY

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE THERE'S AN OPENLY WHITE SUPREMACIST PARTY IN CONTROL OF HALF THE COUNTRY

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE GET ARRESTED MORE THAN WHITE PEOPLE FOR THE SAME CRIMES

CUZ ITS NOT LIKE BLACK PEOPLE HAVE THE GOVERNMENT AND THE POLICE AND THE CORPORATIONS AND THE MEDIA ALL WORKING AGAINST THEM

NO HAHA RACISM IS FUNNY! lOOK I SAID THE N-WORD! HA HA, N-WORD N-WORD N-WORD

Taking the footpill is knowing that all of his films are great and Jackie Brown is one of the best.

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I wish half of that was true.

Why did Mannox basically not care about the General the minute he died?

Cinemasins completely missed this
>Cinemasins
I know, but I wanted to form my own opinion on it.

He's a Confederate General, very famous so his son's name would travel among other bounty-hunters of his disappearance as Warren knows about The Hangman's reputation beforehand, as well as Mannix's Maradaurs. Warren also guesses right that she's a "Kentucky Gal" while The General rambles on, showing he's deducing and putting things together in his head. The General talks about setting up a life over where he came from, so he wanted to know if had found his son or not (He realizes he's out there untimely, old retired Generals don't generally go travelling alone in the middle of winter) and since he didn't, he realized he could make up any story he wanted, had he just found his body starved, exposure, or shot up to death, he'd have to make a story, but since he talks about his wife's death without including his son in that list, it stands he's holding some hope of his son being found. For all we know his son is actually fucking alive and starting up a ranch with some girl in the backwoods, but it's common for sons of successful people to not contact for ages until they got their affairs in order, out of pride and shame.

Who knows, had he just waited around another Winter, he may have gotten a letter from his son, safe and sound and inviting him over for Christmas.

I actually always like to think his son is still alive throughout the entire movie, the ultimate punchline.

What really gets him going is how desperate the General is when he grabs his arm, that's when he outright says he killed him

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Apparently they talked about the legality of it for 15 minutes before going off to the next chapter. (The narration happens when the intermission happened, so tonally we got a 20 minute commercial break before cutting back so essentially what happened, happened in real time while we were off having our break as an audience) It's kinda like a reel being missing or fast forwarding.

It feels tonally weird but it fits with the style choices of the movie. I guess he felt debated but ultimately settled on the legality of the murder when he realized he gets to keep the General's coat in this deadly winter where he almost froze to death a few hours prior.

I always thought the movie was just full of plot holes, wtf tarantino is a genius despite being hollywood agent

It's pretty damn great.

I'd rather know if Mannix really was the new sheriff.

I don't know, in the extended version it's implied that Smithers only knows of Warren because his son went out to get his bounty
>that's the nigger with the 30 thousand dollar reward on his head??
Smithers only then realized his son went out to Wyoming to hunt who he now knows is Warren. It's possible it happened

Holy fuck good summary user.

You guys forget that Warren says the General's son's full name (Chester Charles Smithers), which he most likely wouldn't know unless he had met him before.

But he knows John The Hang Man's full name as well, simply because he's a fellow bounty hunter.

He literally says it was fake and only used so he didn't get lynched

holy based