Ken is a good lad

when did he realizes about Sal's sexual orientation? Only Don, of all the main cast, knew about Sal

He was totally uncomfortable with the amount of gushing Sal was doing over him at the dinner he invited him to. Every time Sals wife said something Sal shut her up to keep the focus on Ken. Rewatch that. So obvious Ken was on Gaydar alert

HARE KRISHNA

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Sal was too obviously gay to be credible as the "gay in disguise".

And Pete Campbell is the best character in the entire show

he is the don draper of luck: the guy can be aloof only because he is lucky, just like don can do what he does only because he is handsome

Pete is a bitch, the best character is sally

I remember I was puzzle by discovering that Sal was married with a women. The show never really told you so, you just discover he has a wife in that one episode when Ken was invited to lunch.

Harry is based.
Paul was the worst 2bh

>Sal was too obviously gay to be credible as the "gay in disguise".

He was a suave Italian man with a wife. I can see how his coworkers wouldn't see the gay, especially in a time when gays weren't in the public conscious much.

>He was the only character in the entire show that didn't had an affair.

>NOT GREAT, BOB!!!

Also his job as illustrator would give him a ton of cover back then. People would know he was gay at a subconscious level, but they wouldn't ever be able to strait up accuse him.

Extreme cringe post

Were Don and Roger the two most despicable characters in the entire show?

Roger is absolutely based

this
he's such a good character

>either of them being anywhere as despicable as the Jaguar guy

or the lucky strikes guy

Who was the best female on the show? For me, it's sally's teacher from season 3. Stunning.

Don might qualify as the worst but these come to mind:

Henry Francis - Goes after Betty while she is pregnant with Gene and married. Lives in another mans house after helping break up the family.

Lou Avery - Punchable, narcissistic bitch who I wish Don threw out the window.

Jim Cutler - same as Lou. Pussy boy who ganged up on Roger with Joan to fire Don after Bert died.

Lee Garner Jr. - Torturing Roger in the Santa costume and coming on to Sal, getting turned down and getting him fired from the agency.

Midge Daniels - approaches Don out of nowhere to coax him into giving her and her druggie boyfriend money for heroin.

Bobbie Barrett - the one Don grabs by the pussy. Her and the comedian husband were losers.

Harry Crane - loathsome man with zero charisma and part of the reason Cutler got a foothold in the company with his stupid computer that killed the creative team.

what do you want

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Favorite character. He never did anything wrong.

What about that dude Pete cucked who kept sending his qt wife to mental institutions for Electroshock therapy?

I'd like to add Joan. Don was the only one that tried to talk her out of sleeping with Herb at Jaguar. Her thanks? Gangs up on Don after Hershey's meltdown to have him run out of the company. Backstabbing bitch.

>did u know Kurt is a homo?

>Shel Kennealy was fired this morning

Henry did nothing wrong, Betty hated Don and wanted a divorce since season 2

Let’s not forget what an insufferable cunt Peggy became in the later seasons.

By that logic, Don didn’t do anything wrong either.

Love the addition of scenes like this. It seems insignificant but it really fills out the characters.

The whole young crew of Pete/Harry/Ken/Kinsey really nailed the young male dynamic of simultaneous friendship, competition, and envy.

From her perspective Don also sabotaged the Jag account for his own personal reasons even knowing what she had to do to get it.
I don't think she ever forgave Don for that.

>you now realize that Peggy's arc is meant to represent modern women

Yes, she was so beautiful.

THE KING ORDERED IT

I think it was that same occasion when his wife realized he was a flaming homo.
Just like when he was made to do the commercial skit and everyone in the room was totally disturbed by how flamboyant he was.

This was only AFTER she had slept with Herb and became partner. She didn't like how it played out? Well guess what, Don warned her it wasn't worth it. Yes, I know by the time Don came to her to talk her out of it she had already done it but so what?

I loved his shutdown line when Don reveals he let Jaguar go. Something like "I thought you'd feel like a weight has been lifted off of you." Cold as ice.

Which Don are you today?

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cringe
>paul
>harry
>pete
>sal
>peggy
based
>don
>roger
>bert
>joan
>ken

honorable mention
turbo cuck tier
>duck

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Duck made me laugh when he tried to take a shit on Rogers office lounger thinking it was Don's.

Roger was great but he gets annoying after season 3.

Was this show implicitly pro-Dem ?

No the moment she realize it was when Sal acted out the Bye Bye Birdie ending. You can watch the realization happen in real time. A great piece of acting from a side character.

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Pete has god tier taste in women, unlike Don that only bangs boomers and the ocassional bimbo.

>tfw he abandons dog-bro
Fug ;_;

D2, like most days

how many of his broken lovers did Don marry? how many children of another man did he take care of?

I don't know why but I've just realized that the actress who played Sal's wife wasn't Robin Tunney.

Not everything is part of your culture wars. The show mocked hippies and hare krishnas as mercilessly as it ripped apart the happy 50s family narrative.

A) one of them
B) Don isn’t a cuck who’d raise flesh and blood that isn’t his own

Underappreciated but based

Duck is the only real man in the entire series wtf are you on about?

The Democrats of that time were Dixiecrats that hated comunisn, supported Nam and were against the integration.

I want to kiss joan

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He broke his wedding vows. That's enough. Also, he scandalized Sally when she walked in on him plugging the Jewish doctors Catholic wife. Then walking right into dinner with Megan and the kids minutes later. He wasn't a good example.

i don't remember it that way. I remember Ken being pretty oblivious to it. His wife knew something was up though

Yeah that's what i meant, was his wife watching? Maybe im confusing the two occasions.

If she ever does a nude scene her charm will be lost

I really like Harry in that he's just a guy that wants to be paid and fuck sluts and he's content as long as he's gets the money and the whores
also him and Pete are in minority in that they are good at their job and don't fuck up like everyone else.

Roger was great I still laugh when something reminds me of his one liners.

>Just when he had his foot in the door

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He did let jaguar go for his own reasons and tried to justify it by citing the dude's skeevy behavior. Joan knew what she was getting into when she whored herself out as did everyone else so she immediately sniffs out the bullshit behind that justification. Don fires Sal not because he's gay but because he put not whoring himself out over the fate of the company - it's clear chivalry isn't his intention. Don wasn't really doing her or the company (which she then had a bigger part and personal investment in) any favors.

>Jim Cutler - same as Lou. Pussy boy who ganged up on Roger with Joan to fire Don after Bert died.
Cutler was great though, from a pragmatic point of view he did all the right things for the company. Agreed though on everyone else.

Yeah, I'm thinking he's based

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There’s a scene in which he acts out his vision for the ad in their bedroom, and she’s clearly disgusted and scared. Then he refuses to give her the benis.

I laughed so hard when duck started walking around the office with his fucking dog like some turbo faggot
The absolute cope on that guy was hysterical
dog bro was based, fuck duck

A4
always A4

This. Duck was based

>I killed 17 men on Okinawa

I love how this setting was close enough to WW2 where these goofy guys were in combat 20 years earlier. Like that scene when Roger talks about Freddy Rumsen being an OSS guy and killing a bunch of people. Freddy Rumsen of all people.

What do you lads think of Lane? He did nothing wrong IMO, he needed to provide for his family and everyone was boxing him out. One of the saddest suicide scenes I’ve ever seen, desu fampai.

it always took me out of the show how Don at some point just starts fucking these ugly ass women like Megan and the doctors wife, like IRL guys like him would be banging sub 20 super models
him going for old ugly hags was some wine aunt pandering

>Who was the best female on the show? For me, it's sally's teacher from season 3. Stunning.
The fur model from season 7.

I wouldn't give Don too much credit for his occasional moral grandstanding. It comes across as fake and pathetic. Literally beta whiteknight shit, considering how he displays freuently that he only thinks about himself

Lane was pretty great. Him challenging Pete to fisticuffs and kicking his ass was fantastic.

He also got to fuck Hildy the hottest girl on the show

Damn i was thinking of her too. So fucking hot. She looked familiar too but i dont know where she is from.

Am I the only one who watched every episode of Mad Men and can't remember a single thing about it?

Who was the best secretary? Take into account how attractive she is as well as her competence.

Rainey Qualley

who would possibly be worse than Paul? Don't say Peggy

>the doctors wife
She was qt milf who he used as a sex toy.

harry and kenzie are a low tier bro pairing on the show but they are still pretty cool

Probably gotta be Megan when she was on Don's desk. Dawn was a good secretary, not my type. Caroline was good, too. Not my type. The attractive secretaries were useless.

You've seen numerous threads of her posted here I'm sure. She is Margaret Qualley's (of Leftover's and Once Upon a Time in Hollywood fame) older sister.

Prideful and arrogant. Lane could have asked ANY of the partners for a bridge loan and they would have all helped him out. Instead of asking for help he took out an unnecessary loan, forged Don's signature, and stole from the company. That's unforgivable and Don was incredibly generous to let him resign.

Holy shit how’d I forget that? He kicked his ass. Glorious.

Of course!

I binged it while taking very frequent dabs off my dab pen.
I don't remember much either
still loved it

>What do you lads think of Lane?
I find it hard to feel sorry for him. He consistently made poor decisions because he was too proud and he ended up killing himself like a beta

>he doesn’t endlessly alternate between rewatching sopranos and chad men
Bruh...

i love this actor and his arc was the best in the series
but
>be a CFO of a big ass advertising company
>have 3 extremely rich friends
>need like 1200$ to solve some visa issue
>don't have enough in savings(how come)
>go to a bank
>take out a 80 000 loan for the company
>split it into christmas bonuses and falsify a check to give yourself one
>people find out and they're pissed
He did the dumbest possible thing
roger's second wife

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what was the point of the storyline with him finding the wallet?

The wife is introduced before that

>i killed 17 men on Okinawa.

The fact that he openly talks about it means you know he's a liar. Real WW2 vets never brag about that shit.

A4

To show that he wanted a woman over money, right? I'm a little fuzzy.

Except for Cotton Hill. He killed 15 men.

He didn’t say it in a bragging situation is more of a threat. It was when he was kicking Don’s ass. The fact that he did that pretty easily makes me think he probably did kill Japs—maybe not 17 though

Pleb filter.

Low IQ people think it was to demonstrate the emptiness of Lane's life and how he longed for a different life.

It really demonstrated how shallow and foolish he was.

He was hammered drunk and that was the only time he mentioned it.

thats not how you spell Roger

At the very least you can assume he did more in WWII than Don did in Korea. Which was the point of the scene I think

KRISHNA KRISHNA
HARE HARE

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Roger fans are like the people who think Tony Soprano is a good character because he "whacks guys and fucks chicks"

>it was to demonstrate the emptiness of Lane's life and how he longed for a different life.
>It really demonstrated how shallow and foolish he was.
it did both of them man these are connected to each other
the whole show is pretty much just a giant study on toxic masculanity but it goes over most people's heads

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c1, nigguh always c1

Fair enough. I still hate Duck though.

My old Kentuckyyyyy hooooooome

Roger is a great character. You don't have to root for a guy or think the character is a good person for said character to be great.

mix of A1 and B2

whom*

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Harry always cracked me up since he starts out as a decent guy guilty about his infidelity then he becomes much worse and worse and has no shame about it

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watch the projection on that analysis numale

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I hate Don, what a fag

I have a job :(

Wish i was 60% as attractive as Don. FML.
A4

I really really wanted the government to investigate Don, pretty retarded they stopped the investigation since isn't it suspicious they pulled out

That was Bob. Go back and watch the series again from the start. Don't post in a Mad Men thread until you're finished.

Lou is framed as a villain/antagonist, but he's actually a pretty decent guy and treats his staff well. It's just Don that he dislikes and that's due to insecurity about his job.

I'd also put Hilton on the list and switch Bobbie with her husband as both were bad people but the husband was worse.

Lane's father and Megan's mother were also cunts. Maybe Jane too.

>Uncle?

What the fuck did Don mean?

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Mix of A1 and B1.

Sorry, B1 and D1

GUESS I'LL ALWAYS CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARE

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On the off chance you're serious, 'uncle' is a standard term for a concession. An 'alright, you win' condensed into a single word.

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Do you think Don found what he was looking for at the end or was he just happy in the moment?

Uncle Mac? The man who used to beat him when he was a teenager?
Remember Don would often saw dead people, mostly when drunk.

me

not to mention that don drinks because daddy didn't love him and duck drinks because he witnessed the brutality of man

I heard that the cannon was that he found the inspiration for that supposedly groundbreaking coke commercial and went back to the industry as his old legendary self.

Why did don stop based Eugene from giving his son a ded krauts helmet? It was pretty ebin

The ending confused me on the first watch through. I think he had some sort of epiphany, but it’s left up to interpretation I suppose.

I may be confusing things but iirc his father was the one who used to beat him.
Uncle Mac is supposed to be the guy who manages the whore house they move to after his father died, and I think he mentions that he was good to him (probably because he used to fuck his step mother to allow them to stay)

>you now realize today's version would be autotuned

> What is happiness? It's a moment before you need more happiness.

rolling

Jesus, you all are right. I thought Bob's "homosexual-heat" was all that Pete had to suffer. My memory failed me in the half-decade that has passed.

I dont really remember Roger doing anything that morally dubious besides womanizing

One could argue he had a negative impact on his daughter’s life in never being around or constantly demeaning her, which led to her rebellions and daddy issues.

FIFTY

What I respected about Roger was that when Mona got mad and left the commune, he stuck around to meet the daughter halfway on her terms. It wasn’t until he saw himself in her behavior (running off to sleep some random guy) that he felt shame for setting a bad example. When he forcefully carried her the next day to go home and fell in the mud it was his most humble moment.

I think that changed the moment he slept with that whore

McCann Erickson is so fucking depressing though, I can't see him last long

My thoughts were he marched back into McCann a hero with the Coke ad. Won a Clio award. Retired and cashed out. Maybe write his own book.

he meant that he was a little bitch

thought this was the dude from Being Human. Then I had to look him up and I realized I remembered him from LA Noir

wat

>Jim Cutler
Cutler was 100% in the right. Don was wasted 24/7, fucking up everything.

jimmy barrett got wasted and told a fat lady the truth. that's literally the only thing he ever did that wasn't justified

Ah very interesting. When i watched it i though it was supposed to contrast Don having an actual breakthrough. The ad is all about love and happiness but really its just meant to sell Coca-Cola. Seeing everything Don goes through gives you a different perspective and you can see how shallow the ad really is.

There is evidence to back up the theory that the end was about him getting inspired to make that ad, mostly how when everyone is concerned about where Don went, the people that know him all say the same thing. "He does this, but he always comes back." And that is shown to be true in the rest of the show.

Also, the coke commercial comes from a real agency called McCann Erickson from right around the time don would've gone back.

He wasn't like that young hat Cosgrove

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Say_Uncle

He gets the best lines
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BURRRRR HEEEEEE

the only time he was absolutely right you mean, fuck fatties

Except that he was also doing shit against the other partner's just because he was a bitch. Like sending Bob to Chevy and losing Manischewitz

THIS IS MY FUNERAL!

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I remember him talking to Don and saying something like:
"I stayed up and watched the sun rise this morning"
"How was it?"
"Nothing special"
And I can't for the life of me remember when it was.

The best line in the entire series is still when Don's father says "I'd tell you to go to Hell, but I never want to see your face again

Ehh, they dismiss him as just being European

Woah man, wild.

I imagine when he's smiling like that he's thinking about what he's going to tell Coke in a meeting, how he got inspired to make that Coke ad from the time he spent on the commune

>even Sal
As if there was ever any doubt

Yeah Roger really isn't that bad a guy, especially compared to Don

this

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Childhood is wanting to be Don, Adulthood is wanting to be Pete

Patricianhood is wanting to be Ken

It makes so much sense actually. I'm totally convinced that this is what the end is all about.

Trudy is by FAR the best wife in the show. Adorable, horny (yet loyal), well connected and charming

Jesus you zoomers

Godhood is wanting to be Lou Avery, managing the anime adaptation of Scout's Honor

COLE PHELPS YOU SONUVABITCH

the cigarette is 100% accurate

How is he even that lucky? He publishes his stories because he actually worked hard on them (the execs mention everybody else at the firm probably had the first five pages of a novel in their desk and commend him on finishing something), he has to deal with the car fucking shits and gets into an incredibly unlucky accident. The only stroke of luck I can think of was when his father-in-law gives him an opportunity to go to Dow in the end.
Ken really doesn't do all that much independently throughout the series now that I think of it. He's mostly reactive, but I still like him. That fucking tapdancing scene.

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>tfw no 70's period series following Lou's weeb adventures in Tokyo

I refuse to believe anyone actually wants to BE Don. Tall and handsome? Sure. A depressed alcoholic with childhood trauma? No.

LSD is probably my favorite drug and I love its portrayal in madmen. They did a nice job of representing it metaphorically without crazy visual filters and other overly literal means.
It's also nice how they didn't pander to the "bro you'll go crazy and see pink elephants on acid" trope.

The Last Psychiatrist wrote some very good posts about how he's emblematic of modern narcissism
Not in the self-aggrandizement sense, but the identitarian sense that your life is a manufactured narrative and your sense of self is entirely dependent on forcing everyone around you to see that narrative the way you demand it be seen

Agreed
Roger's conversation with his ex-wife about it afterwards was interestingly done too

LA Pete is best Pete

B3

I respect Don as a creative powerhouse so I always wanted to be him in that sense since I also work in advertising and marketing.

>They put the cole slaw right on the sandwich!

i just wanted to say that i hate you all

Bonnie Whiteside!

YOU MAKE THE LIE MAN

A lot of the super flamboyant stuff was actually how gay folks signaled to each other back then, before it was something that people were aware of.

C2 with a little bit of D4

I'D LIKE TO BUY

youtube.com/watch?v=FV-IbKB5dlo

What a goddess

I wouldn't say Don's a narcissist but he definitely has too many narcissistic tendencies. He can still relate to people in his life on a deeper level but yeah, he's definitely fucked up

Don is the definition of a narcissist.

I'm feeling more like a Paul right now.

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His return as a hare krishna wannabe star trek writer was inspired.

cringe

That completely caught me off guard and yet it felt so realistic for his character

>The conversation doesn't end just because you leave the room

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Don chasing him through the office into the creative room.
"how's it going"

>tfw we will never know his incredible idea
I bet it was brilliant, I don't remember what was the client

I liked, on rewatching it, how it ties back to one of the first scenes where he has multiple lines. He talks about The Twilight Zone, and how he'll kill himself if it ever gets cancelled.
He was Yea Forums.

Lol yes. Surprised they could keep a straight face

It was for Western Union telegrams

I don't remember some parts very well, but do you think he was jealous of Harry Crane because he became the TV guru?

I don't think so. Paul was a creative guy, I don't think he wanted to deal with TV networks selling media space. He'd rather be writing their shows.

>THE KING ORDERED IT

>mfw I missed the show so much, that I began working on an Iron Man comic themed Mad Men fanfic that eventually started translating to tv, film and comic format
It's not fair, lads. Why is there no such kino these days? Patriot & Perpetual Grace, alongside The Return, satisfied my "prestige show" hunger, and stuff like Billions and Succession keep me company, but... I want Mad Men...

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kinsey

Well, he's not an awful one. I think he's more likely to be a sociopath

>*fucks your mom*

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I still love LA Noire.

HELL'S BELLS TRUDY

He is not a sociopath, but he is absolutely inarguably a narcissist in a concrete way. Don Draper is his constructed identity and the one thing he cares about in the show more than anything, more than his safety, more than his family, more than the firm, more than his creative work, is maintaining that constructed identity. It doesn't get any more textbook narcissism than that.
He's not a sociopath because he genuinely cares about a lot of characters, especially Sally, Bobby, Peggy, and Anna, and has real emotional connections with them. He's not good at forming that kind of connection and his narcissism takes precedence frequently, but that doesn't make him a sociopath.

THIS, I'd sell a kidney for a trudy any day

>*gets domed by viet cong*

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Well said

Seriously what the hell was the Glen-Betty subplot about?

Roger is basically a competent Billy Madison.

I guess that the stories from the kids perspectives are 'loss of innocence'. Glen's burgeoning sexuality is focused towards Betty when he is young. She clearly holds a special place for him.

Sorry, I guess I made a mistake.

The first season stuff seemed to be that they were both just very lonely, Betty because the life of a domesticated housewife didn't fulfill her the way she had been told it would and Glen because his family was broken. Glen ends up as a very weird kid who doesn't know how to appropriately talk to adults or other kids. The hair fixation is supposed to make you uncomfortable with its weirdness but also make you kind of sad.
By the last season he's probably tied her into all kinds of oedipal fantasies since those moments from his childhood. He also just wants to bang a milf.

the virgin Draper vs the chad Chaouogh

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FIDDY

What about showing up drunk to the meeting with the Japanese and calling them racial slurs? Or the blackface Mammy routine?

He said morally dubious, not hilarious.

Also Khazar Milkers

This was one of the only episodes where I genuinely liked Betty
Wish she had managed to deal with her unhappiness in some way other than being a raging fucking bitch all the time

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>loyal
>hard working
>competent
>creative
Ken is based.

Was Betty in the wrong for divorcing Don after she found out the truth, adultery aside? I feel like his reasoning for not saying anything was completely valid. He had to keep the secret to as few people as possible to protect his own life. And frankly, the less Betty knew about it, the safer she and the kids would be off. I can understand being completely shaken that the man you married isn't who he says he is and has a past you didn't expect, but really in all aspects he was still the same man. Just a traumatized one.

I watched this whole show but I didn’t get the point it was making. Isn’t it basically DUDE THE 60’S HAD A NICE AESTHETIC BUT IT WAS ALSO A MORALLY REPREHENSIBLE TIME?

>protect his own life
Nobody was trying to kill Don; the only thing he was hiding from was his own shame. As his wife, Betty was supposed to be the one person he trusted more than anyone else in the world, and she clearly wasn't.

he tackled a woman to the ground to see her panties lmao
>inb4 never did anything wrong

I don't think she was in the wrong for divorcing him, you can't really put adultery aside when you're talking about a marriage. I do think she was a bitch.
>lol reducing a show to one sentence, checkmate
It's a character-driven drama, go watch Star Wars

>Nobody was trying to kill Don
Except the government if they ever found out.

Strong D4 today.

>hating dogs
ultimate nigger filter

He would not have been executed over that. 1945 was the last time an American was executed over desertion, and the last time before that was in the Civil War.

>Pete has god tier taste in women
i'll give you alison brie, though she was made hotter in community because of the skimpy outfits
>peggy

Anyone else kek when Joan’s army husband raped her? And then she whored herself out to Jaguar. lol what a dumb bitch

Peggy is cute as hell.

This is all quality banter though

Betty is so fucked by Don that she is in a state of arrested development. She is a child and can only relate on an emotional level to another child.

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Glenn likes her as a boy crush, Betty likes him because she can talk to him.

As for after that, probably something to do with Sally.

Yea Forumsased and 2006-pilled

On my rewatch I feel more sorry for her. Don's a fucking nightmare from her perspective, no wonder she was neurotic.

>Midge Daniels - approaches Don out of nowhere to coax him into giving her and her druggie boyfriend money for heroin.
good fucking riddance

C2 of course

I remember it but I’ll admit it left surprisingly little of an impression on me in the end.

Those problems predate Don. If she's stuck in adolescence, that means she stopped developing emotionally when she was young.

I really liked Don and Dawn’s confusing names. Feels like something that would happen in real life.

megan was best girl

You now remember a faggot married Pete's mom and threw her out of a cruise ship

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I liked these few scenes where don was completely outclassed by another man. Not because I hate don or his character it was just refreshing to see him exposed as the fraud he is.

Since he's so intent on possessing women, he seems to go for girls who are uglier than him, like he's doing them a favour almost.

Roger is a cunt. He acts all cocky and cheeky because he’s a partner, but the only reason he was a partner was because he inherited it from his dad. The only account he had was Lucky Strike, which he also inherited and lost. Also, he was a seaman in the navy, which is the faggiest branch.

>When Pete and his brother agree they don't really give a shit
Lmao

>she's in the ocean with father now

What kind of person hates Roger of all fucking people? He’s one of the funniest on the show.

Pete is the best character on the show

Rog sets them up and Don knocks 'em down. I think he struggled as time went on and he eventually became obsolete.

>they both got eaten by sharks

He got what he deserved watching his only daughter get passed around by unwashed hippies

The thing is though, she didn't exactly know if he had any affairs. She just had the suspicions because of Francine's situation. Even her lawyer says she would have to prove adultery in order to get a divorce, which she couldn't. And by this point in time, she had already cheated on him herself.

He'd still end up in prison at the least probably. He had every right to be paranoid as much as he was about it. And just because that was the last time doesn't mean it couldn't happen to him. The code of justice still states that anyone who deserts in the time of war will be punished by death or any sentence a court-martial sees fit. I guess it would come around of whether or not they'd define Korea as being an actual war.

Except Sally's teacher. That chick was hot af. Same with Faye Miller

based desu

Roger reminds you of your old man. It’s ok, admit it.

He told multiple women he was cheating on his wife with before he told his wife.

It sounds stupid, but sometimes you just know if someone is being unfaithful, even if you don't have proof. It's a gut feeling and it's horrible. Honestly I can empathise with Betty, she was pushed to the brink by Don, all his disappearances and mishaps. Really, she just wanted to be a faithful wife, good mother but also have a purpose in life beyond children.

Should have taken one for the team and slept with Lucky Strike man

But not once did those women say anything to Betty or someone she knew, otherwise we would have seen it. Hell half of them didn't even want to acknowledge he was married. The art chick in the first episode said to never bring his wife up. It was just as taboo to be the other woman in an affair as it was to be the man having it.

You're missing the point. He was supposed to trust his wife more than anyone else, but he shared this secret with other women.

Look at that fucking BEAK

you're getting your shit mixed up. Narcissists are unable to form genuine relationships and have very little self-awareness. It's quite normal for businessmen to be somewhat sociopathic and Don is because he is able to form relationships and experience emotions, but he can be cold-hearted as fuck if it serves his own interest.

Sociopaths are incapable of forming real bonds with people and are entirely self-serving. Narcissists can have emotional attachments that allude sociopaths, even if they'll always put their own needs first if he has to.

As much as I like the finale, I really can't help but seeing it as rushed.
The characters were built and developed over an arc of 7 seasons and 8 years, and yet the life-changing events for most of them only happened in the last 2 episodes and basically came up out of nowhere

>Betty getting cancer
>Pete meeting Duck and getting a new job interview
>Joan falling in love, leaving the guy and having a new job opportunity
>Peggy and Stan finding out they were in love

All these things happened between the last 2 or 3 episodes, they weren't decisions well pondered by the characters, they simply happened.
The only ones that felt perfect to me were Don and Roger's endings, because at least you could already feel in the air that Don wouldn't resist in there and that Roger was too tired to deal with that shit

Being cold when you want to be is not sociopathy. A real sociopath is not capable of fully caring about somebody on a deeper level, they can only fake it, but Don does that repeatedly.
I outlined exactly what narcissism is and he fits the bill exactly.
You're the one with your shit mixed up.

I felt it that way too when I saw it. Would have been cool if there will be another season taking place in the mid 70s although I don't know if there is anymore to tell , it would just be fan service.

That'd be cool since the actors will have aged ~5 years

no it wouldn't

fanservice is best service
also I need more joan